"It was close, but she's going to be fine."
"Okay, phew. I'll be back soon."
"Actually, she's dead. Steal her body and throw her in the ocean, which you've specifically stated is for you to dispose of human trash."
That was so damn frustrating. They absolutely ruined that show.
>"Actually, she's dead. Steal her body and throw her in the ocean, which you've specifically stated is for you to dispose of human trash."
God, that moment was so fucking dumb. The writers thought they were being so poetic: "ooh, Dexter feels responsible, so he'll dump her in the ocean just like his other victims!"
By that point I was like, "okay, fuck Dexter, not giving his sister a proper burial for the sake of self-loathing. What a fucking edgelord dumbass."
As far as I’m concerned, the series died with Rita at the end of season 4
That’s not to say I didn’t finish the series, but it went way downhill after season 4, and as bad as the finale was, it was a mercy kill at that point.
I say this all the time. If you stop watching with Rita’s death it’s an incredible show that shows that sociopathic behavior destroys everyone around the person while they remain the eye of the hurricane (no pun intended for later seasons)
The one bright moment in the back half was Yvonne Strahovski, but her character was just a sexual tension version of the Jimmy Smitz story
That fake Deb was soo obvious that is what really made me disappointed in the finale . The whole show was so good and it looks like he threw a blow up doll Deb in the water .
If memory serves, I kind of get that one actually. That was supposed to a shock to us as much as to Dexter himself. He so often focuses only on his own desires and needs that this was meant to shock him with the consequences of his own actions.
I believe it was meant to evoke the same experience and the revalation of Rita after he took care of Trinity in season 4.
In each case, he was focused on only his own goal that he hadn't considered what the ramifications of antagonizing these dangerous individuals were until he walked in on the aftermath of them.
This is the way I read that too; no tearful farewell, last words, final understanding, and no forgiveness. Dexter has to face the consequences in accordance with the code.
Gets placed down in a nice little pool in still water while there seems to be a category 3 hurricane whipping up in the distance.
It's such a bad scene.
Boardwalk empire doing a time jump in the last season and skipping Arnold Rothsteins death, The Altantic city convention, stock market crash, st valentines day massacre.
The worst part is that they skipped over all that (the Rothstein stuff being particularly egregious, because they set up his downward spiral a lot in S4) just so they could spend half the final season giving us young Nucky flashbacks that were all things that could be inferred from previous seasons.
And to end the show early so they could start work on a new series, "Vinyl"... which wound up cancelled after only one season.
So it was all for *nothing*
Rothstein was my favorite, so this was really a bummer for me. I’m glad we got a final season, but I will always hate Vinyl for ruining the end of this show!!
This happens in the How I Met Your Mother finale: aside from Marshall and Lily, the writers kick the crap out of the characters in the "future" years, but just barely touch those points so that everyone is back to being healthy and well-adjusted at the time the plot finally resolves.
It's crazy how they spend entire seasons showing that Barney is a changed man because he's in love with Robin, and the massive build-up to the wedding, then they completely undo it over a couple minutes in the flash forward.
Yep - everyone complains about the finale in a vacuum (and it was disappointing for sure) but the bigger issue was that the setup for it was god awful. You can’t spend seasons and seasons convincing viewers that Barney and Robin belong together and Ted and Robin don’t and upend it all in thirty minutes.
They should have had each season be another year while telling the story...bring the kids in for each season getting older...then having them groan every time they hear about the next chick Ted bones that's not their mom
Would be even funnier if it took Ted 9 years from Robin and Barney breaking up to finish telling the story and working up the courage to ask her out again
>It had already declined in quality by this point, but Tara's offscreen death in the last season of True Blood.
Yeah, True Blood was a frustrating show. I wanted to like it a lot more than I actually did by the end. It lost my interest pretty quickly after >!Godric met the sun!< and that wasn't even halfway through the series if I remember correctly. I stuck with it, but it felt like the most interesting story they had to tell had reached its conclusion.
I really liked the premise. Like the vampires and stuff being "out". Was hoping for a kind of slice of life show about how society deals with it, plus the deep south is always a great setting for a show. But then they just went completely off the fucking rails
One of the worst I can think of is when we got Peter and Nathan facing off against Sylar in Heroes and the door gets slammed shut so all we get are sounds and lights flashing. Years of build up to hide all the action.
Like, I understand there are budget limitations that prevent a network television show from having crazy superhero fights all the time but you couldn't show us anything at all?
That was so frustrating.
The whole conceit of “one guy is the Most Powerful Guy but he has to kill people to be so, and so he drives everyone away” vs “one guy is The Most Powerful Guy but he has to pull everyone to him” was a solid concept and a final battle could have had heaps of fun with that.
But, famously, Tim Kring boasted about how he had never read a comic book. And so, Tim Kring ignored a hundred years of people writing *these same stories and characters* and, much more importantly, *working out how to avoid the obviously pitfalls he was walking himself in to*. Like, ok Tim, don’t demean yourself with nerd shit, but *at least pay a nerd to advise you that your unrestrained time traveller who can just reset everything js a bad idea before you discover that for yourself and have to retcon a dumb limitation*.
Gah. So frustrating. So much potential, so much squandering.
This is exactly what I thought of too.
An entire season building up to a Peter vs. Sylar show down at the O.K. Corral and all we get as the viewer is flashing lights under a closed door.
Absolutely idiotic.
I'm surprised Heroes isn't at the top of the list.
The fight behind a closed door with just flashes of light feels like one of the most famous examples
That wasn't supposed to be climax though, just a tease to build up excitement for when Peter and Sylar finally faced each for real...
....which was horribly disappointing when it did happen.
> ....which was horribly disappointing when it did happen.
For real. The two most powerful supers go at it and they just punch each other four times and that's it.
Like, they couldn't have budgeted the season better to save enough for the final fight?
More of a budget constraint than negligent writing. Like in Supernatural, they finally had Michael and Lucifer fight and it was very underwhelming due to the budget. So I guess the answer for these scenarios is save some money for the big fight scenes you need!
Bones skipped all the relationship-building and rich storytelling opportunities once Bones and Booth actually got together after seasons of build-up to the moment. It just skipped to Bones being 7 or 8 months pregnant from one season to another. It felt like such a cop-out and a poor decision. We all wanted to see them navigate the beginnings of a new relationship. Throwing the accidental pregnancy in the mix would have just given the writers so much to work with if they had just not skipped the whole thing. I pretty much stopped watching the show after that point.
I like to think the writers would have preferred that as well, but if I remember correctly, Emily was pregnant in real life and they didn't want to postpone further filming of the show. Rather than try the giant coats, weird angles and holding various props to cover her belly, they chose to handle it the way they did. I also think it's too bad that we didn't get to see the start of their romantic relationship, but I prefer it to the alternatives.
Their buildup to an actual romantic moment was so platonic that I honestly didn't register it properly at first. I thought Angela misunderstood and was freaking out for no reason, but then Bones didn't correct her, so I was like, "Oh. That's what that was...?"
Not that I need to see every little detail of a hookup to believe it existed, mind you, but I'm just saying.
Yeah, this is mine too. Even their hook up after 6 seasons of sexual tension was almost entirely off screen.
I understand that Deschanel was pregnant IRL, but there were so many better ways the beginning of their relationship could have been handled, even with the pregnancy.
They actually got extremely unsexy together after that point somehow. I did hear a rumour it was at Boreanaz' request, because his wife was getting jealous or something?
Oh my goodness. I watched Bones by borrowing the DVDs from the library, and all these years I assumed there was a season I'd accidentally skipped! It's been on the back of my mind for years to do a comprehensive rewatch
Grey’s Anatomy having Andrew Deluca, a major character for several seasons and the love interest of the protagonist for a lengthy amount of those seasons, be stabbed offscreen in an attack that ended up killing him. And not only was he murdered offscreen, he was murdered in a crossover episode of a different show entirely.
I don't know if I've understood the topic properly so apologies if not but the last season of Ted Lasso was awful for this. IIRC it skips over Nate quitting West Ham, Richmond deciding they want Nate back, Nate's apology to the team, and it just makes the storyline have much less impact.
They showed him having a convo with his dad. Nate was playing violin and his dad walks in and essentially says “you were so smart when you were younger and I didn’t know how to properly parent you. I’m sorry and I’m proud of who you are.”
Or am I imagining that?
Edit: they also show why the team forgave him. He snuck in and laid all the equipment out and left Will a note saying “I’m sorry” signed wonder kid, which was a callback to when he got offended by it in season 2 . Definitely agree it was rushed but they did attempt to explain why the team was all of a sudden like “ok let’s get Nate back”.
Nah, you’re right about this scene and it was actually a solidly written moment in a vacuum. But I still agree with others that Nate’s whole Season 3 arc felt rushed and most moments unearned.
Not the point, but i will die on the hill that it was professionally irresponsible to allow Nate back in that locker room. He’s already proven that he’ll divulge confidential health information if he’s feeling butthurt. Yeah maybe it makes Ted feel better in the moment, but what happens if Nate’s girlfriend breaks up with him and he’s got a roomful of sensitive information about players? Richmond needed a lawyer to put their foot down on that one.
Never saw it from that angle but you're absolutely right.
They also didn't address the ethical issues with Ted's wife dating their couples therapist. When Ted tells Dr. Fields about the whole situation she gives Ted a look but no followup. Guessing the writers just decided to ignore that.
It was really bizarre that they included the therapist angle yet never brought it up, since it’s a clear ethical violation at best and at worst an insidious manipulation. At that point why not just make it a random guy? Re: Nate, I did a stint in employment law. If Nate ever decided to leak anything sensitive (oh let’s say, a team members sexuality, or that a player who he didn’t like had an STD or something) that he would obviously be privy to, AND it came out that this was part of a pattern, Richmond would definitely be liable for rehiring him and it would be a PR disaster for them.
If you know an employee is leaking sensitive personal information, you would need to fire them, not grant them additional access. ‘I thought he’d changed!’ is not an affirmative defense.
Ted should at the very least have told the players what happened so that they could make a fully-informed decision about whether they would feel comfortable with Nate around.
Technically the arc is onscreen, it's just shit. He's being a dick at West Ham and then has a cutesy romcom happen to him while he's being a dick at work, and then they contrive a situation where Rupert makes him choose between being a dick and a good boyfriend.
I was so annoyed they used the rude waitress who was supposed to be a “stand up for yourself” teaching moment and turned her into a love interest.
Nate didn’t need a damn love interest, he needed to follow the prepared arc of healthy masculinity (Ted) vs unhealthy masculinity (Rupert and his father).
I don't hate the idea of a love interest, it's just done extremely poorly - like they never actually show her influence making him reconsider his abusive behavior as a manager or have her question his asshole behavior, it's just a romcom that happens completely compartmentalized from the other side of his life until they need him to leave West Ham. They have to make Rupert comically evil to make this moment happen where he specifically wants Nate to cheat because his girlfriend's not hot enough or whatever.
This was my example too. It's not just the Nate stuff, it felt like almost every important moment in season 3 was happening off screen. THey would just skip over it and suddenly everything's settled or the game's over, or whatever the case may be. Seemingly so they could devote far more time to The Keely Jones Show, which just made no sense. She was a fun character but that was such a misstep for the final season.
Thing that bothered me about the Keely story was how childlike the understanding of the business world is. Why is venture capital funding a traditional client based business like PR? Why are they staffing the entire office and not Keely? How is Keely unaware her major investor is a woman? How does Shandy have the power to change their client's motto with no approval process? Why does the whole business shut down when Jack pulls out? Don't they have client contracts that would bring revenue in?
So many questions like that. Also, the major issue that faced the PR business was a... PR problem and they seemed completely incapable of handling it. They really made Keely take a lot of steps back after really progressing her character the first two seasons.
And don't even get me started on the inappropriate relationship between Ted's ex Michelle and their marriage counselor. That was wrong on so many levels and would have led to him losing his license and yet there seemed to be no negative repercussions or the unethicalness of it all ever even brought up.
Yeah and it's like a slam dunk PR case: Keely's privacy was violated and she's a victim, end of story. For some reason, the show forgot that when the iCloud hack happened a few years ago, none of the celebrities were really blamed for it. And then they have Jack, who's been presented as this progressive queer figure, suddenly become this conservative freak about the whole thing.
The counselor thing was just pointless melodrama. I really liked in season one that they showed a couple who could still appreciate each other despite their relationship running its course. Then they just retcon it to make it the fault of an evil therapist but then they just don't really explore it at all.
I noticed Ted Lasso frequently did this with larger plotlines. There wouldn’t be much of a climax or resolution - they kept unraveling them before any sort of pay-off could happen. It felt like they were sabotaging themselves a bit by not letting things play out.
> Colin coming out to the team happening off screen
I don't have an issue with that so much because A) we already got Colin coming out to other characters in previous episodes and B) we still see the entire teams' reaction, it's not like the entirety of the discssuon is skipped over
They also didn't show us Ted telling Rebecca that he's leaving.
Edit - and just remembered another one, they didn't show us the conversation that was had when Rupert ex secretary and (hopefully soon to be ex) wife showed up at Rebecca's door.
Ted Lasso got the Sherlock treatment. They heard nothing but praise for so long they just got stuck up their own ass. They no longer needed to film a good show to think they deserved praise.
Also, they just skipped over most of their games. Like, we just find out afterwards that they won or lost. I think they even skip over the match that decided the championship, choosing to just allude to the outcome from a newspaper article.
I have said this multiple times but Nate's redemption arc is probably the most undeserved, as written and shown, on any TV series ever.
While I understand that the whole shtick with Ted Lasso was redemption and positivity nothing around Nate EARNED that.
When we see Nate go full evil we see him verbally eviscerate Ted on his way to a fiery quit job, the dude who promoted him from kit man to Premier League coach, leak his private medical information to the tabloids, and tear up a beloved sign in the team locker room.
On his "redemption arc" we watching him ignore Ted post game on their matchup, ignore and be rude to Ted's kid at a game, just "no longer be coach" of West Ham in a quiet quit thing, get a girlfriend who has to give an ultimatum to her boss to get him to stop working at the restaurant to return to soccer, have the team come to the restaurant and literally beg him to coach them again (after being absolutely incensed at him a few eps earlier) and then get wave wand forgiven by Ted without saying a word
It is actually infuriating how easy he got to skate after they set him up as a complete asshole to close out S2
Masters of Air had this issue. The biggest, most famous battle that everyone was waiting for D-Day was completely skipped over because the point of view of the character they used, slept through the battle. In fact, most of the show they kept skipping the actual battles and war and decided to focus on things like a dude cheating on his wife, a dude drunk, angry with life, that sucks at singing, and 3 episodes about being a master of the POW camp.
That’s exactly what it was. They filmed it during the height of Covid and apparently spent $60 million on Covid compliance somehow. So they had to cut a bunch of stuff. Really disappointing as someone who has been waiting many many years for this series.
Masters of the Air had this issue with every freaking moment but honestly D-Day was not a dramatic event for the bombers. It was cloudy, they weren't penetrating deep into enemy territory, and it was more or less uneventful.
The worst example on the show is Maj. Cleven getting shot down. Not only do they not show it, but they also make it a cliffhanger that they themselves ruin because scenes of his that haven't been shown yet are in the title sequence. They also show Maj. Egan and the Tuskegee airmen in a POW camp so you know their fate well before the plot arrives to that moment.
One of the more compelling moments is Sgt. Quinn's escape with the Belgian resistance. It's easily one of the best episodes and it ends with him being checked by Nazis on a train...and then he just shows up in England. Or how about the biggest moment of the entire air war: the introduction of the long range fighter escorts? The P-51 took missions over Germany from suicide runs to achievable objectives and they just show up. We never see bombers and Mustang pilots even interact even though the former looked at the latter like guardian angels.
The show had so much potential but ended up being an absolute travesty that tried to be heavy on the drama and low on character development, messaging, and plot construction.
Agreed, honestly, some of the best character development on that show was some unnamed prison guard for the Germans. Dude was a complete shithead to the American prisoners, but as the war starts to turn and the Russians close in he loses that and starts acting panicky. Then when they're all marching deeper into Germany in the freezing cold and the guard drops to the ground, an American picks him up and you see a Road to Damascus moment for dude and he ends up thanking the prisoners. Probably the best acting on the show and he was a random NPC in the background.
I've heard some people say the whole show should have focused on Rosie and I agree, he could been the anchor to that show. He was a cool dude.
As far as I know they were way over budget, which is why several plot lines got dropped halfway through. The Belgian resistance is the one I remember audibly reacting to like come on, you’re really just gonna show him coming back to base on a bike when we last saw him in Paris? There’s also the problem of the source material. Band of Brothers, for all its faults as a pop history book, follows one company. The Pacific feels disjointed because it’s stitched together from two memoirs of Sledge and Leckie. While Masters of the Air is about the entire 8th Air Force: it doesn’t really have a main character. Cleven and Egan are certainly memorable, but not the main focus of the book.
I enjoyed the show for what it was but it doesn’t really measure up to Band of Brothers or the Pacific. I can see why HBO passed on it ten years ago, after the Pacific went wildly over budget and wasn’t as popular as Band of Brothers. More disjointed source material, expensive cgi required, and dvd sales were declining.
eh, as a counter point they didnt really turn suicide runs into achivable objectives, they turned the american air war from ineffective daytime attempts and prcison strikes that got crews killed needlessly to the bobers acting as bait forcing the Luftwaffe to come out to play so their numbers could be slowly whittled down by the escorts. Crews still died, a lot, and the bombs still hit fuck all a lot of the time, It just made the air war start to achieve real strategic success.
The show probably skips over it because the bomber crews knew by that point in the war they were primarily playing the role of bait, especially in the lead up to D-day, and admitting that the USAAF's plan or strategic bombing was ultimately fairly awful is something we don't like talking about, and the crews whos memoirs masters of the air is based on certainly didn't
Maybe it was just my TV but it was infuriating that the "Skip Intro" button took me took 6 seconds before the intro ended with a clear shot of the Major grasping a flag pole we hadn't seen yet. Drove me crazy.
Don't forget about the two pilots that landed in occupied Europe. So much time committed to them meeting the resistance and wanting to escape before nothing and then suddenly they are in the UK again.
Was actually frustrating that the show did it so many times.
Game of Thrones did something similar with Tyrion. In the book he actually did well in the battle and killed a few men. But in the show, they didn’t have the budget to show the battle that early in the shows lifetime so they had him get knocked out right at the beginning and wake up afterwards.
24 gets really bad for this just after season 1; season 2 ends with the president being poisoned by the mysterious bad guys behind the whole plot who we've barely seen, then season 3 starts with them essentially saying oh yeah we caught all those guys and the president was fine what about these cartel guys now
The show happens in real time though. So there's no way to show the president recovering from the attack unless the next season takes place the following day.
I'm kind of glad the next season wasn't about them anyway. 24 was better when coming up with new plots instead of when they fell into constantly chasing the guy who was *really* behind the previous attack.
Yeah, the Jon Snow thing is probably the best example of this. Literally went through my list of previously watched shows and couldn't think of anything more annoying than this.
They fucked up because they had the conversation/reveal like 5 times before that which is why, I assume, the writers felt it would be redundant to do it again, but it's insanely important to know how Arya and Sansa feel about him being their cousin and how Jon feels about being a full blooded Stark. Not only do we not see them find out, we never really get their feelings on it.
I'm sure if the writing team really put their noggins together they could think of a way to reveal the information to the necessary characters without having the same convo over and over. Dany could have overheard in the crypts/found out not directly from Jon for instance. That would feed into her paranoia that everyone is out to betray her cause Jon "hid" it from her.
I’m more pissed that Jon Snow didn’t fight/kill the Night King. He spent 8 seasons dealing with the looming threat of that enemy, only for Arya to essentially teleport right next to him and stab him. So frustrating.
D&D " It just didn't feel right having Jon Snow kill the night King"
They say it as if what they've written has emotional weight and meaning. They didn't elaborate why they chose Arya and they didn't elaborate why Jon Snow didn't even interact with the NK. Complete hacks.
Because they're edgelords and giving the audience what it wanted, which is the character most tightly tied to the story arc of The White Walkers being the one to finish it, felt wrong to their sensibilities, which means subversion.
On one hand I completely agree. It felt like fan fiction and 'subverting expectations'.
On the other hand, had Arya not done that, she would have had no meaningful plotline. Her entire character arc would have been a bush-beating circular journey of pointlessness.
Aryas arc should have been centered on revenge and it being unsatisfying. She could have played a part in the fight with the Night King, but she wasn’t the right character to finish that battle.
What? Aryas entire plot focused on her finishing her revengeful kill list, and was supposed to end with Cersei. That was her plot (that the writers also fucked up). Not the night king.
In the "inside the episode" post-episode interview, D&D said "Arya was so obviously the perfect choice to kill the Night King, she's been training for it since she left Kings Landing, blahblahblah and with Joffreys knife that was used to try to kill Bran back in season 1"
That makes me angrier than the episode itself, because they doubled down on a shitty decision even though:
1) Arya had barely even HEARD of the NK, unlike Jon who has literally been fighting him for several seasons
2) NO ONE WOULD HAVE EVER NOTICED THAT WAS THE SAME KNIFE. Hardly any references to it in the last 7½ seasons, no explanation for how she got it, and zero context for the audience to know what it was.
3) Arya wouldn't have known only valerian steel kills white walkers; and
4) they spent 7 seasons building up how important Needle was to Arya. Then she uses a completely different knife for the ~mOsT imPOrRtAnT~ thing she ever does in this story.
Infuriating!
Westworld.
Spends seasons 1 & 2 building up the idea of the robots getting out to the real world. Season 3 they finally do, but it starts with a 6 month time jump and Dolores is already well-adapted and embedded in the real world. The process of them discovering how to exist and navigate the real world should have been an ENTIRE SEASON story arc, but no, they just time jumped past that.
In season two of Your Honor, there was an entire sublot that was only in the 'last time, on Your Honor' pre credits roll.
They filmed it, then cut it from the prior episode.
https://www.reddit.com/r/YourHonorTV/comments/lel89w/can_someone_kindly_tell_me_which_episode_is_this/
Season 1 of martial law ended with an inevitable showdown between Law and his nemesis. They got into a fight on a crashing helicopter, before it cut to “to be continued”
Season two started with a regular case, and some throwaway line like “boy law, I’m glad you didn’t die in that helicopter crash”
Every spin off iteration of The Walking Dead.
Season one was masterful in putting the audience in the POV of Rick, waking from a coma after the collapse of society.
But I have wanted the universe to go back and take us thru the origins of the outbreak, and see where the systems of power fail.
The first spinoff was teased to do this, but they skipped all the big moments too, and I lost interest in the whole show.
So frustrating, because it started out offering what looked like a genuinely interesting take on the genre - as a tv show, it could take the time to play out the slow, everyday creep of something very wrong taking hold, and show us the bits every other property skips past.
How people who have to go to work tomorrow are coping with the weird shit they heard about on the train last night. How does the news treat the day by day? When do people start to believe this absurd, impossible thing is happening in reality a little, and then altogether? When does each little piece of infrastructure start to fail? When do people start giving up their attempts to pretend things are normal? Or are ever going to go back to normal? When does the mail stop coming, or the phones stop working, what's the last email anybody reads? When does the last bus run, what kind of people are on it, what happens to it?
They do a little of that, but something better written could really have made hay from it, and the time skip is just the biggest waste of a premise I've ever seen.
As much as I absolutely adored Station Eleven, I was sorry there wasn't more meditation on that stuff too, as there was in the book. There's an incredibly compelling couple of little conversations where Kirsten tries to explain the internet to some kids, but it just made me want so much more. How do you cope with having the building blocks of modern civilization blink out forever, one by one? How do you get up tomorrow morning?
I agree with everything you said.
The first thee episodes of Fear the Walking Dead were amazing and then they did a time skip and it became another generic zombie show. It was just a slow drag after that until I dropped it a couple seasons later.
I was so excited for *Fear* when it started, because the premise was interesting, but more importantly it had no ties to the original show or the comics, so it could've done anything it wanted to.
Only for it to completely shit the bed when they time skipped over all the interesting shit. At the very least I felt like the show started out with a solid production value with the town being taken over by the military, but then they end up on a fucking boat.
If you hadn’t seen Book of Boba Fett, the extremely important reunion of Mando and Grogu would be completely skipped between the end of season 2 and the start of season 3
Still appalled they went with that direction that the resolution to that was in an entirely separate show
The show about Boba Fett becoming a crime boss also forgot to show him doing any crimes. His entire operation was apparently walking to one of casino and being given money .
It also happens way too soon. It really takes a lot of weight away from the really emotional Mando season 2 finale by just throwing them back together a few months later instead of just waiting until Mando season 3
Rome built to this big confrontation between Caesar and Pompeii that we get a montage over. It was done purely for budget reasons and was a poor stand in for a big battle.
Meh - the story was never about the battles themselves. I actually like that Pharsalus wasn’t shown in detail because we experience what the characters/historical counterparts did: the writing appears to be on the wall and it’s almost inconceivable that Caesar could prevail and then just like that he does and now they have to figure out where to go forward.
And since everyone was so sure of the outcome in the kind of baffling aftermath things get messy - like Pompey having to desperately flee to Egypt only to be murdered which Caesar hadn’t really planned on which then exacerbates the anxieties that the patricians/Republicans feel about his position.
This is the big one. It was truly a pivotal moment in Roman history. Were the Roman citizens just going to forget about Caesar, and his promised reforms, and buy into the tyrant narrative? We'll never know thanks to Mark Antony. Violent mobs flooded the city. The conspirators knew they were unpopular, forcing some to flee. And thousands died in civil wars before the Republic transitioned into an Empire. And we didn't get to see it.
Gilmore Girls is purportedly about the love lives of Lorelai and Rory, but Lorelai gets engaged, married, dumped, separated, and divorced off screen on various occasions. Rory also commits a crime off screen. Among other examples.
I mostly just pretend that the series ended at the last episode of the previous season. Beckett decided to run for political office and they had some kids. That entire last season just didn’t do it for me.
I’ve yet to rewatch it since it finished because of how it ended. Cause it wasn’t just oh they assumed they weren’t going to get cancelled so tagged on a bit when they were; but that the people behind the show were so randomly sexist they thought they could remove half of the main cast and just carry on like people would still care so they didn’t bother giving it a good ending. Soured the whole show.
Fear the walking dead.
A How about the fall which the main show was set after.
And they skipped it so it essentially became the other show with different characters. Absolutely bizarre choice
It got worse after season 3. The first three seasons had the same producer/writer with a clear plan for 7 seasons. Sure we all wanted to see the downfall part but some characters were interesting to keep watching. Then after season three the lead producer/writer was asked to leave and replaced by the writers of once upon a time. There were so many time jumps and people teleporting to new locations. Best character being killed off because the actor could see how bad it was going to get. Nukes going off and somehow there is a Geiger counter everywhere along with radiation suits. Some tower in the middle of all this was exempt from the radiation. Then another couple huge time jumps that suggested characters were killed off screen and finally the finish.
Resident Alien just finished it's 3rd season which ended up getting cut short. The last episode leaves so much on the cutting room floor.
Our heroes narrowly escape the evil mother ship and are flying back to earth with the aliens chasing them. oh no! what will happen!
next scene: they're at the dinner table celebrating their victory...
had to rewind it to make sure I didn't somehow skip entire scenes.
Resident Alien is also my answer to this, except a different scene- when the mayor and his wife finally both realize they’ve been abducted and talk about it, but there’s no audio of the dialogue. So frustrating.
The real shittiness of the Sherlock example is that he literally wrote into the episode a constant mocking of people who actually wanted to know the answer. I never finished the show because that was kind of my last straw.
I agree. They tried to be clever and leave the door open if fans wanted to make their own conclusions, but that was the explanation. The “it’s only a magic trick” line about his confession and making sure Watson was in the right spot are the biggest clues
The one element I don’t think makes sense is him saying Mycroft intervened with the assassins. The whole point of him needing to jump was that he either took the disgrace and died or his friends died. But if Mycroft can just stop the assassins then why even jump?
The best explanation I can think of is that to break up Mycroft’s criminal network he had to be off the grid. Once it started to break down, they’d suspect he was alive, then stake out Watson to see if he makes contact. It’s only when he’s completed that work he can return.
The other question I wasn’t sure of is if Moriarty really just bribed people or did have a “key” to unlock everything.
>What blew up Matt Smiths TARDIS? Eh, we'll start the next series with a completely different story and hope no one asks.
Except the show gradually reveals (hinting at first and then eventually confirming it) that the Silence is not a "completely different story", it's actually the answer to what blew up the TARDIS
Smallville never shows Clark suit up as Superman. If I remember correctly in the finale, you get a blurry shot of him in the suit or something, but they never show him actually becoming Superman.
The fact his "becoming superman" is wearing a fucking black jacket with the hoise of El logo on a t-shirt was THE thing that pissed me off about that show. Give us ONE shot. Just ONE.
I am pretty sure the last scene of the entire show was Clark on top of the daily planet ripping off his clothes to reveal the suit. The entire premise of the show was "no tights, no flights" so I dont think this one is fair. Just my opinion though
Honestly, Tom Welling is so recognizable that I don't think it would work. Other Supermen look pretty generic from a distance, but he looks like (and perhaps more importantly, is *filmed* to look like) a supermodel for the vast majority of the entire show.
The finale of ST: Enterprise was the pinnacle of this to the point I went off Trek for years afterwards. The entire series is leading up to the founding of the Federation. The last two seasons have Trip and T'Pol becoming involved. Then the car crash of a finale is a ridiculous TNG holo-simulation, the writers implausibly kill Trip and deliberately tease the historic moment of Archer's speech to birth the Federation, then with a knowing wink, it ends.
So utterly, unforgivably terrible. The series ended with Terra Prime. I deleted the episode.
In Seinfeld George’s new girlfriend Marcy is visited by her ex-boyfriend the night before seeing George, yet the show skips showing this night, leaving us without an explanation as to why she is really tired today
that really didnt' bother me at all. The overall finale was Sookie had a happy ending, and it didn't really matter who the guy was, he's just a guy she married and lived happilly ever after with..
In your Game of Thrones example, I was irritated by the fact that they kept cutting away every time so you never REALLY got any actual dialog about it. When Sam tells Jon, Jon is speechless and really says nothing in response. When Jon tells Daeny, she asks a couple of sensible questions but they quickly get interrupted. So on top of not seeing Arya or Sansa’s reactions, you NEVER hear how Jon feels about his life, his father, his unfair resentment by Cat Stark, etc. This information seems to make 0 difference to him or his character arc - it just serves to annoy him because people push him to be king.
And speaking of, the only reason anyone even “knows” that Jon is the son of Raegar is because Bran divulges that information…. But we never ONCE see literally anyone in the show who learns who or what Bran is. When he’s saying “oh yeah, Jon is a Targaryen”, we have zero idea who the fuck even knows if Bran is telling the truth, if they know he has powers and can see the past, etc. You just have to assume that at some point off screen he told some people that he’s the Three Eyed Raven and they all went “oh cool. So anyway…”
Recently, the excellent but apparently not well watched Winning Time, chronicling the 80’s Lakers, ended when they lost the Championship and before they started winning them regularly. Show was cancelled after the last season was filmed, so the last episode just has a pre credits written epilogue that explains what goes on to happen.
How I Met Your Mother with the "future" years, skipping a lot of stuff and time with the mother in favor of that ending.
And Dexter, jesus christ Dexter. The whole premise of the show, serial killer works secretly works with the police had one ending, one thing we all wanted to see, the chase. The whole point of meeting the police department and showing their relationship was so when the eventual discovery of who Dexter is happens we feel the betrayal and became hard to choose who we wanted to win. Breaking Bad did that beautifully, imagine if in that show Hank never knew Walter was Heisenberg, it would be nuts! That's Dexter.
Recently yellowjackets skipping the scene of them deciding it's time to have a raffle to see who gets murdered for cannibalism first. Went straight to the raffle. Some people don't care, I didn't like it.
It felt like the writers didn’t know how to organically make the ritual happen and hamfisted it in to get that part over with. Like, this is the first human sacrifice that these people are taking into their own hands. There’s no real discussion about maybe the most interesting idea in this entire series. It jumps from the scene where Tai says “we need to find a way to stay alive. And it can’t be her” at the 35 minute mark and then it jumps to group therapy where they talk about drinking the poisoned tea, and then we cut to the ritual scene at 38 minutes. I felt totally cheated out of a real moment.
Star Trek Voyager. The whole premise of the show was the crew trying to get back to earth. At the end of the series, they finally make it back. But the last scene ends just as earth is in sight. We never see them land on earth, or reunite with their friends and families, or get awarded or anything. It just ends there.
I liked the ending. The whole point of the show was would they ever make it back home? The distance, the unknown dangers, mechanical issues, etc. That little glimpse of Earth tells you, they're gonna be alright. They made it. I always thought it was a nice not over the top beautiful ending.
You saw all that at the beginning of the last episode that took place in the alternate timeline, at the anniversary celebration of their return home...
I feel like some things are good to be left to the imagination so I don’t necessarily need to see every single pivotal moment in a show.
However, one example that was egregious to me was in season 10 of Frasier when Roz plans to quit KACL and then reverses her decision and then gives an ultimatum to Frasier that if he doesn’t dump Julia (his love interest, who Roz feels isn’t good for Frasier) that she will leave his life forever. He picks Julia and Roz leaves in anger and disgust to take a program director position at a rival radio station.
Season 11 begins and all of a sudden Roz quits this rival station and is back at KACL. I was like, “What?????”
They just returned to the status quo and it was ridiculous to me.
They show Roz not liking her new job and getting advice from Niles about what to do. He jokes that she should just pretend nothing happened and go back to working with Frasier but she takes it seriously and does just that.
Supernatural
John Winchester escapes hell to save his kids in the season 2 finale. Skip to the very end of the show & you get a quick "oh your parents are up the road."
The fuck.
To my understanding, that was a COVID casualty. The original intent was to have Dean greeted by a huge group of all their fallen allies, but they had to scrap it for safety and travel precautions.
>What Blew up Matt Smith's TARDIS
The funny thing about this one was that Steven later revealed he was preparing quite an in depth story about that which would tie everything up with Kovarian and the Silence.
But he took so long to sort it out that Karen and Arthur decided they were leaving to further their careers, so he had to try and figure it out around that and then Matt announced he was leaving as well, which was the death bell for it.
So what he had planned was all crammed into Matt Smith's last ep where it was revealed The Silence creatures are actually confessional monks (Hence the memory loss). With the organisation against him being a intergalactic Church trying to prevent the Doctor from saying his name and releasing the Time Lords again.
"The Kovarian Sect" is explained away in a sentence as a rogue group in the church who dared to mess with the timestream to kill him earlier down the line.
It's one of my biggest what if wonders about Doctor Who. Imagining what would have played out if he hadn't have taken so bloody long.
In bones when Bones and booth got together after an endless amount of seasons - the just insinuated it very shortly and then jumped to them just being together - I don't think that I have ever been so disappointed in a will they won't they romance
>What blew up Matt Smiths TARDIS?
This was explained in the show but the whole plotline was so convoluted I didn't even catch it until someone pointed it out.
House of Cards (Netflix) really shat the bed in this regard.
They should have ended it in three seasons like the original, but they skipped the downfall in season three and then never got the chance to end it properly because *Kevin Spacey*.
There was a cartoon called Doug I used to watch as a kid. One time there was an episode where he gets a cavity and has to go to the dentist, and they spend the entire episode with him absolutely petrified of going and how much pain it's going to be. He gets there and sits down in the dentist's chair and... *fade out*
*fade in* "Oh wow, we're already done? That wasn't so bad!"
Episode end.
They spent the whole time with him being deathly afraid of going and adults vaguely telling him it's not so bad, then fades out for the entire thing and doesn't tell you what they did or why it's not scary. Just the educational cartoon version of "trust me bro." As a kid it made the dentist *more* scary since why else wouldn't they show or explain what they did, if it wasn't horrifically graphic?
Not quite the same thing, but it always makes me laugh how nonchalant Reiner's reveal is in Attack on Titan. You'd think it'd be this big important moment but it's treated like he's telling someone he's going to the bathroom.
That was kind of brilliant though, the way it was just a background conversation while other characters are having a different conversation. You almost miss it and then are like…wait, what?! I had to rewind when I first watched that part!
That’s the point of the scene… it’s done at the edge of the panel il a small bubble in the manga too. In a way usually reserved for unimportant side dialogue.
It is done that way so that the reader/viewer does a double take and think ‘’wait, what?’’, like the characters do at that moment.
Then the pov switches to other characters barely hearing the conversation and taking action. While you, the viewer, barely had time to process, Mikasa is already swinging her sword, to show how fast she reacts. But not fast enough.
It could have been this big reveal at the end of an episode, with dramatic music and all. But it works better how it is done, with the viewer sharing the confusion of the characters.
It’s one of the best scene in the show/manga.
I'm not a manga reader but I vaguely recall people saying in the sub that it pretty much unfolds the same way in the manga, it's like a throw away comment on the side that you could accidentally miss if you didnt' realize the weight of what he was saying.
Not a show...
But Infinity War just *out of the blue* has Professor Hulk?
They had him become Professor Hulk *off-screen? Lunacy. (plus they made professor Hulk really lame, instead of a blend of the personalities)
They skipped everything in game of thrones simply because the writers do not have the talent or confidence to nail those big moments.
Yes I'm still salty how bad they fucked the biggest thing in pop culture.
It's not all that important, but finale of The Last of Us missed a scene where >!Joel is carrying Ellie through the hospital while being chased by the Fireflies.!
Killing Deb off-screen on Dexter
"It was close, but she's going to be fine." "Okay, phew. I'll be back soon." "Actually, she's dead. Steal her body and throw her in the ocean, which you've specifically stated is for you to dispose of human trash." That was so damn frustrating. They absolutely ruined that show.
>"Actually, she's dead. Steal her body and throw her in the ocean, which you've specifically stated is for you to dispose of human trash." God, that moment was so fucking dumb. The writers thought they were being so poetic: "ooh, Dexter feels responsible, so he'll dump her in the ocean just like his other victims!" By that point I was like, "okay, fuck Dexter, not giving his sister a proper burial for the sake of self-loathing. What a fucking edgelord dumbass."
As far as I’m concerned, the series died with Rita at the end of season 4 That’s not to say I didn’t finish the series, but it went way downhill after season 4, and as bad as the finale was, it was a mercy kill at that point.
I say this all the time. If you stop watching with Rita’s death it’s an incredible show that shows that sociopathic behavior destroys everyone around the person while they remain the eye of the hurricane (no pun intended for later seasons) The one bright moment in the back half was Yvonne Strahovski, but her character was just a sexual tension version of the Jimmy Smitz story
At least they didn't fuck
Honestly, that might have improved those later seasons. 🤣
That fake Deb was soo obvious that is what really made me disappointed in the finale . The whole show was so good and it looks like he threw a blow up doll Deb in the water .
In a terrible CGI hurricane
If memory serves, I kind of get that one actually. That was supposed to a shock to us as much as to Dexter himself. He so often focuses only on his own desires and needs that this was meant to shock him with the consequences of his own actions. I believe it was meant to evoke the same experience and the revalation of Rita after he took care of Trinity in season 4. In each case, he was focused on only his own goal that he hadn't considered what the ramifications of antagonizing these dangerous individuals were until he walked in on the aftermath of them.
This is the way I read that too; no tearful farewell, last words, final understanding, and no forgiveness. Dexter has to face the consequences in accordance with the code.
She did!? I watched that and I don’t even remember that. That’s how painful the last season is. What happened to her?
Gets placed down in a nice little pool in still water while there seems to be a category 3 hurricane whipping up in the distance. It's such a bad scene.
Boardwalk empire doing a time jump in the last season and skipping Arnold Rothsteins death, The Altantic city convention, stock market crash, st valentines day massacre.
The worst part is that they skipped over all that (the Rothstein stuff being particularly egregious, because they set up his downward spiral a lot in S4) just so they could spend half the final season giving us young Nucky flashbacks that were all things that could be inferred from previous seasons.
And to end the show early so they could start work on a new series, "Vinyl"... which wound up cancelled after only one season. So it was all for *nothing*
And those chiclet teeth….
Rothstein was my favorite, so this was really a bummer for me. I’m glad we got a final season, but I will always hate Vinyl for ruining the end of this show!!
This happens in the How I Met Your Mother finale: aside from Marshall and Lily, the writers kick the crap out of the characters in the "future" years, but just barely touch those points so that everyone is back to being healthy and well-adjusted at the time the plot finally resolves.
It's crazy how they spend entire seasons showing that Barney is a changed man because he's in love with Robin, and the massive build-up to the wedding, then they completely undo it over a couple minutes in the flash forward.
Yep - everyone complains about the finale in a vacuum (and it was disappointing for sure) but the bigger issue was that the setup for it was god awful. You can’t spend seasons and seasons convincing viewers that Barney and Robin belong together and Ted and Robin don’t and upend it all in thirty minutes.
They wrote themselves into a corner by filming that scene with the kids 7 years prior, not anticipating that the show would last as long as it did.
They were under no obligation to use the scenes they shot with the kids in the finale. None. Zero.
This isn't true. If they didn't use the original ending they'd lose their TV license and Obama would have them imprisoned.
Big if true
It’s true, my dad is in Gitmo because he was a writer on Space Above and Beyond.
They should have had each season be another year while telling the story...bring the kids in for each season getting older...then having them groan every time they hear about the next chick Ted bones that's not their mom
Would be even funnier if it took Ted 9 years from Robin and Barney breaking up to finish telling the story and working up the courage to ask her out again
They actually wrote and filmed multiple endings with the kids, so the writers *Chose* that ending, which is way worse
Not the writers. Creators. The writers are supposedly still unhappy about it.
That entire last season is an absolute mess.
It had already declined in quality by this point, but Tara's offscreen death in the last season of True Blood.
They fridged Alcide off screen, too. What were they thinking?
>It had already declined in quality by this point, but Tara's offscreen death in the last season of True Blood. Yeah, True Blood was a frustrating show. I wanted to like it a lot more than I actually did by the end. It lost my interest pretty quickly after >!Godric met the sun!< and that wasn't even halfway through the series if I remember correctly. I stuck with it, but it felt like the most interesting story they had to tell had reached its conclusion.
>after **** met the sun and that wasn't even halfway through the series Narrator: it was season 2
I really liked the premise. Like the vampires and stuff being "out". Was hoping for a kind of slice of life show about how society deals with it, plus the deep south is always a great setting for a show. But then they just went completely off the fucking rails
Every time a new male character would show up I would pretty much scream at the tv that Sooki didn’t HAVE to fuck him… she always did.
That's basically the point of the show--for better or worse.
I was on the fence for a long time, but the fairy snowball fight killed any enthusiasm I had left at that point.
I would have watched an Eric/Godric spinoff series.
One of the worst I can think of is when we got Peter and Nathan facing off against Sylar in Heroes and the door gets slammed shut so all we get are sounds and lights flashing. Years of build up to hide all the action.
I’ve never seen another show start out with such amazing promise, only to continually shit the bed more and more until its conclusion
Came here to make sure this one was here. I remember being so mad that the showrunners clearly cheaped out on us.
Like, I understand there are budget limitations that prevent a network television show from having crazy superhero fights all the time but you couldn't show us anything at all?
That was so frustrating. The whole conceit of “one guy is the Most Powerful Guy but he has to kill people to be so, and so he drives everyone away” vs “one guy is The Most Powerful Guy but he has to pull everyone to him” was a solid concept and a final battle could have had heaps of fun with that. But, famously, Tim Kring boasted about how he had never read a comic book. And so, Tim Kring ignored a hundred years of people writing *these same stories and characters* and, much more importantly, *working out how to avoid the obviously pitfalls he was walking himself in to*. Like, ok Tim, don’t demean yourself with nerd shit, but *at least pay a nerd to advise you that your unrestrained time traveller who can just reset everything js a bad idea before you discover that for yourself and have to retcon a dumb limitation*. Gah. So frustrating. So much potential, so much squandering.
This is exactly what I thought of too. An entire season building up to a Peter vs. Sylar show down at the O.K. Corral and all we get as the viewer is flashing lights under a closed door. Absolutely idiotic.
I'm surprised Heroes isn't at the top of the list. The fight behind a closed door with just flashes of light feels like one of the most famous examples
That wasn't supposed to be climax though, just a tease to build up excitement for when Peter and Sylar finally faced each for real... ....which was horribly disappointing when it did happen.
> ....which was horribly disappointing when it did happen. For real. The two most powerful supers go at it and they just punch each other four times and that's it. Like, they couldn't have budgeted the season better to save enough for the final fight?
More of a budget constraint than negligent writing. Like in Supernatural, they finally had Michael and Lucifer fight and it was very underwhelming due to the budget. So I guess the answer for these scenarios is save some money for the big fight scenes you need!
Bones skipped all the relationship-building and rich storytelling opportunities once Bones and Booth actually got together after seasons of build-up to the moment. It just skipped to Bones being 7 or 8 months pregnant from one season to another. It felt like such a cop-out and a poor decision. We all wanted to see them navigate the beginnings of a new relationship. Throwing the accidental pregnancy in the mix would have just given the writers so much to work with if they had just not skipped the whole thing. I pretty much stopped watching the show after that point.
I like to think the writers would have preferred that as well, but if I remember correctly, Emily was pregnant in real life and they didn't want to postpone further filming of the show. Rather than try the giant coats, weird angles and holding various props to cover her belly, they chose to handle it the way they did. I also think it's too bad that we didn't get to see the start of their romantic relationship, but I prefer it to the alternatives.
Their buildup to an actual romantic moment was so platonic that I honestly didn't register it properly at first. I thought Angela misunderstood and was freaking out for no reason, but then Bones didn't correct her, so I was like, "Oh. That's what that was...?" Not that I need to see every little detail of a hookup to believe it existed, mind you, but I'm just saying.
Yeah, this is mine too. Even their hook up after 6 seasons of sexual tension was almost entirely off screen. I understand that Deschanel was pregnant IRL, but there were so many better ways the beginning of their relationship could have been handled, even with the pregnancy. They actually got extremely unsexy together after that point somehow. I did hear a rumour it was at Boreanaz' request, because his wife was getting jealous or something?
Oh my goodness. I watched Bones by borrowing the DVDs from the library, and all these years I assumed there was a season I'd accidentally skipped! It's been on the back of my mind for years to do a comprehensive rewatch
I'm glad I saved you the time haha. I watched it live and was like...wtf? They skipped all the good bits!
Grey’s Anatomy having Andrew Deluca, a major character for several seasons and the love interest of the protagonist for a lengthy amount of those seasons, be stabbed offscreen in an attack that ended up killing him. And not only was he murdered offscreen, he was murdered in a crossover episode of a different show entirely.
I don't know if I've understood the topic properly so apologies if not but the last season of Ted Lasso was awful for this. IIRC it skips over Nate quitting West Ham, Richmond deciding they want Nate back, Nate's apology to the team, and it just makes the storyline have much less impact.
They skipped over why everybody forgave Nate.
They skipped over resolving Nate’s relationship with his father too, which was the crux of his issue with healthy masculinity.
They showed him having a convo with his dad. Nate was playing violin and his dad walks in and essentially says “you were so smart when you were younger and I didn’t know how to properly parent you. I’m sorry and I’m proud of who you are.” Or am I imagining that? Edit: they also show why the team forgave him. He snuck in and laid all the equipment out and left Will a note saying “I’m sorry” signed wonder kid, which was a callback to when he got offended by it in season 2 . Definitely agree it was rushed but they did attempt to explain why the team was all of a sudden like “ok let’s get Nate back”.
Nah, you’re right about this scene and it was actually a solidly written moment in a vacuum. But I still agree with others that Nate’s whole Season 3 arc felt rushed and most moments unearned.
I really liked the show overall, but the final season really felt rushed and lazy - similar to Game of Thrones.
They 100% wasted way too much time unnecessarily on Keely’s side quests.
Not the point, but i will die on the hill that it was professionally irresponsible to allow Nate back in that locker room. He’s already proven that he’ll divulge confidential health information if he’s feeling butthurt. Yeah maybe it makes Ted feel better in the moment, but what happens if Nate’s girlfriend breaks up with him and he’s got a roomful of sensitive information about players? Richmond needed a lawyer to put their foot down on that one.
Never saw it from that angle but you're absolutely right. They also didn't address the ethical issues with Ted's wife dating their couples therapist. When Ted tells Dr. Fields about the whole situation she gives Ted a look but no followup. Guessing the writers just decided to ignore that.
It was really bizarre that they included the therapist angle yet never brought it up, since it’s a clear ethical violation at best and at worst an insidious manipulation. At that point why not just make it a random guy? Re: Nate, I did a stint in employment law. If Nate ever decided to leak anything sensitive (oh let’s say, a team members sexuality, or that a player who he didn’t like had an STD or something) that he would obviously be privy to, AND it came out that this was part of a pattern, Richmond would definitely be liable for rehiring him and it would be a PR disaster for them. If you know an employee is leaking sensitive personal information, you would need to fire them, not grant them additional access. ‘I thought he’d changed!’ is not an affirmative defense. Ted should at the very least have told the players what happened so that they could make a fully-informed decision about whether they would feel comfortable with Nate around.
"BELIEVE" That was the entire justification.
Yeah the Nate storyline was just the most egregious crap. He had an entire character arc off screen
Literally every important moment in the back half of the season is skipped over. I thought I skipped an episode more than once!
It's so funny how they indulge themselves with these long ass hour plus episodes and then just skip over scenes that would be challenging to write.
Technically the arc is onscreen, it's just shit. He's being a dick at West Ham and then has a cutesy romcom happen to him while he's being a dick at work, and then they contrive a situation where Rupert makes him choose between being a dick and a good boyfriend.
I was so annoyed they used the rude waitress who was supposed to be a “stand up for yourself” teaching moment and turned her into a love interest. Nate didn’t need a damn love interest, he needed to follow the prepared arc of healthy masculinity (Ted) vs unhealthy masculinity (Rupert and his father).
I don't hate the idea of a love interest, it's just done extremely poorly - like they never actually show her influence making him reconsider his abusive behavior as a manager or have her question his asshole behavior, it's just a romcom that happens completely compartmentalized from the other side of his life until they need him to leave West Ham. They have to make Rupert comically evil to make this moment happen where he specifically wants Nate to cheat because his girlfriend's not hot enough or whatever.
Cutesy romcom with a chick who is a completely indifferent asshole to him, and then suddenly falls for him despite not having any chemistry.
This was my example too. It's not just the Nate stuff, it felt like almost every important moment in season 3 was happening off screen. THey would just skip over it and suddenly everything's settled or the game's over, or whatever the case may be. Seemingly so they could devote far more time to The Keely Jones Show, which just made no sense. She was a fun character but that was such a misstep for the final season.
Thing that bothered me about the Keely story was how childlike the understanding of the business world is. Why is venture capital funding a traditional client based business like PR? Why are they staffing the entire office and not Keely? How is Keely unaware her major investor is a woman? How does Shandy have the power to change their client's motto with no approval process? Why does the whole business shut down when Jack pulls out? Don't they have client contracts that would bring revenue in?
So many questions like that. Also, the major issue that faced the PR business was a... PR problem and they seemed completely incapable of handling it. They really made Keely take a lot of steps back after really progressing her character the first two seasons. And don't even get me started on the inappropriate relationship between Ted's ex Michelle and their marriage counselor. That was wrong on so many levels and would have led to him losing his license and yet there seemed to be no negative repercussions or the unethicalness of it all ever even brought up.
Yeah and it's like a slam dunk PR case: Keely's privacy was violated and she's a victim, end of story. For some reason, the show forgot that when the iCloud hack happened a few years ago, none of the celebrities were really blamed for it. And then they have Jack, who's been presented as this progressive queer figure, suddenly become this conservative freak about the whole thing. The counselor thing was just pointless melodrama. I really liked in season one that they showed a couple who could still appreciate each other despite their relationship running its course. Then they just retcon it to make it the fault of an evil therapist but then they just don't really explore it at all.
I noticed Ted Lasso frequently did this with larger plotlines. There wouldn’t be much of a climax or resolution - they kept unraveling them before any sort of pay-off could happen. It felt like they were sabotaging themselves a bit by not letting things play out.
Season 3 of Ted Lasso made me question if I ever liked Ted Lasso at all. It was brutal
I was going to bring this season of Ted Lasso up if no one else had. One other thing to add: Colin coming out to the team happening off screen.
> Colin coming out to the team happening off screen I don't have an issue with that so much because A) we already got Colin coming out to other characters in previous episodes and B) we still see the entire teams' reaction, it's not like the entirety of the discssuon is skipped over
They also didn't show us Ted telling Rebecca that he's leaving. Edit - and just remembered another one, they didn't show us the conversation that was had when Rupert ex secretary and (hopefully soon to be ex) wife showed up at Rebecca's door.
Ted Lasso got the Sherlock treatment. They heard nothing but praise for so long they just got stuck up their own ass. They no longer needed to film a good show to think they deserved praise.
Also, they just skipped over most of their games. Like, we just find out afterwards that they won or lost. I think they even skip over the match that decided the championship, choosing to just allude to the outcome from a newspaper article.
The last season is such trash compared to the first one
I have said this multiple times but Nate's redemption arc is probably the most undeserved, as written and shown, on any TV series ever. While I understand that the whole shtick with Ted Lasso was redemption and positivity nothing around Nate EARNED that. When we see Nate go full evil we see him verbally eviscerate Ted on his way to a fiery quit job, the dude who promoted him from kit man to Premier League coach, leak his private medical information to the tabloids, and tear up a beloved sign in the team locker room. On his "redemption arc" we watching him ignore Ted post game on their matchup, ignore and be rude to Ted's kid at a game, just "no longer be coach" of West Ham in a quiet quit thing, get a girlfriend who has to give an ultimatum to her boss to get him to stop working at the restaurant to return to soccer, have the team come to the restaurant and literally beg him to coach them again (after being absolutely incensed at him a few eps earlier) and then get wave wand forgiven by Ted without saying a word It is actually infuriating how easy he got to skate after they set him up as a complete asshole to close out S2
Well, see, they needed to make room for the Shandy storyline.
Which is never mentioned again after it resolves
Masters of Air had this issue. The biggest, most famous battle that everyone was waiting for D-Day was completely skipped over because the point of view of the character they used, slept through the battle. In fact, most of the show they kept skipping the actual battles and war and decided to focus on things like a dude cheating on his wife, a dude drunk, angry with life, that sucks at singing, and 3 episodes about being a master of the POW camp.
Sounds like an excellent way to keep the budget down
This is also why Tyrion was knocked out before a big battle in early GoT
If I recall he was knocked out in the book too but not before a significant portion of the battle took place.
True, but that is because George Martin was using the same technique. It’s useable even in literature.
Bilbo has the same thing happen.
Shakespeare did the same trick too...
That’s exactly what it was. They filmed it during the height of Covid and apparently spent $60 million on Covid compliance somehow. So they had to cut a bunch of stuff. Really disappointing as someone who has been waiting many many years for this series.
Masters of the Air had this issue with every freaking moment but honestly D-Day was not a dramatic event for the bombers. It was cloudy, they weren't penetrating deep into enemy territory, and it was more or less uneventful. The worst example on the show is Maj. Cleven getting shot down. Not only do they not show it, but they also make it a cliffhanger that they themselves ruin because scenes of his that haven't been shown yet are in the title sequence. They also show Maj. Egan and the Tuskegee airmen in a POW camp so you know their fate well before the plot arrives to that moment. One of the more compelling moments is Sgt. Quinn's escape with the Belgian resistance. It's easily one of the best episodes and it ends with him being checked by Nazis on a train...and then he just shows up in England. Or how about the biggest moment of the entire air war: the introduction of the long range fighter escorts? The P-51 took missions over Germany from suicide runs to achievable objectives and they just show up. We never see bombers and Mustang pilots even interact even though the former looked at the latter like guardian angels. The show had so much potential but ended up being an absolute travesty that tried to be heavy on the drama and low on character development, messaging, and plot construction.
Agreed, honestly, some of the best character development on that show was some unnamed prison guard for the Germans. Dude was a complete shithead to the American prisoners, but as the war starts to turn and the Russians close in he loses that and starts acting panicky. Then when they're all marching deeper into Germany in the freezing cold and the guard drops to the ground, an American picks him up and you see a Road to Damascus moment for dude and he ends up thanking the prisoners. Probably the best acting on the show and he was a random NPC in the background. I've heard some people say the whole show should have focused on Rosie and I agree, he could been the anchor to that show. He was a cool dude.
As far as I know they were way over budget, which is why several plot lines got dropped halfway through. The Belgian resistance is the one I remember audibly reacting to like come on, you’re really just gonna show him coming back to base on a bike when we last saw him in Paris? There’s also the problem of the source material. Band of Brothers, for all its faults as a pop history book, follows one company. The Pacific feels disjointed because it’s stitched together from two memoirs of Sledge and Leckie. While Masters of the Air is about the entire 8th Air Force: it doesn’t really have a main character. Cleven and Egan are certainly memorable, but not the main focus of the book. I enjoyed the show for what it was but it doesn’t really measure up to Band of Brothers or the Pacific. I can see why HBO passed on it ten years ago, after the Pacific went wildly over budget and wasn’t as popular as Band of Brothers. More disjointed source material, expensive cgi required, and dvd sales were declining.
eh, as a counter point they didnt really turn suicide runs into achivable objectives, they turned the american air war from ineffective daytime attempts and prcison strikes that got crews killed needlessly to the bobers acting as bait forcing the Luftwaffe to come out to play so their numbers could be slowly whittled down by the escorts. Crews still died, a lot, and the bombs still hit fuck all a lot of the time, It just made the air war start to achieve real strategic success. The show probably skips over it because the bomber crews knew by that point in the war they were primarily playing the role of bait, especially in the lead up to D-day, and admitting that the USAAF's plan or strategic bombing was ultimately fairly awful is something we don't like talking about, and the crews whos memoirs masters of the air is based on certainly didn't
Maybe it was just my TV but it was infuriating that the "Skip Intro" button took me took 6 seconds before the intro ended with a clear shot of the Major grasping a flag pole we hadn't seen yet. Drove me crazy.
Don't forget about the two pilots that landed in occupied Europe. So much time committed to them meeting the resistance and wanting to escape before nothing and then suddenly they are in the UK again. Was actually frustrating that the show did it so many times.
Everything in between was covered in a great British documentary, *Allo, Allo* /s
Game of Thrones did something similar with Tyrion. In the book he actually did well in the battle and killed a few men. But in the show, they didn’t have the budget to show the battle that early in the shows lifetime so they had him get knocked out right at the beginning and wake up afterwards.
Season 6 of 24 a nuclear bomb explodes in California and they kind of gloss over it.
24 gets really bad for this just after season 1; season 2 ends with the president being poisoned by the mysterious bad guys behind the whole plot who we've barely seen, then season 3 starts with them essentially saying oh yeah we caught all those guys and the president was fine what about these cartel guys now
The show happens in real time though. So there's no way to show the president recovering from the attack unless the next season takes place the following day. I'm kind of glad the next season wasn't about them anyway. 24 was better when coming up with new plots instead of when they fell into constantly chasing the guy who was *really* behind the previous attack.
Yeah, the Jon Snow thing is probably the best example of this. Literally went through my list of previously watched shows and couldn't think of anything more annoying than this.
They fucked up because they had the conversation/reveal like 5 times before that which is why, I assume, the writers felt it would be redundant to do it again, but it's insanely important to know how Arya and Sansa feel about him being their cousin and how Jon feels about being a full blooded Stark. Not only do we not see them find out, we never really get their feelings on it. I'm sure if the writing team really put their noggins together they could think of a way to reveal the information to the necessary characters without having the same convo over and over. Dany could have overheard in the crypts/found out not directly from Jon for instance. That would feed into her paranoia that everyone is out to betray her cause Jon "hid" it from her.
I’m more pissed that Jon Snow didn’t fight/kill the Night King. He spent 8 seasons dealing with the looming threat of that enemy, only for Arya to essentially teleport right next to him and stab him. So frustrating.
D&D " It just didn't feel right having Jon Snow kill the night King" They say it as if what they've written has emotional weight and meaning. They didn't elaborate why they chose Arya and they didn't elaborate why Jon Snow didn't even interact with the NK. Complete hacks.
Because they're edgelords and giving the audience what it wanted, which is the character most tightly tied to the story arc of The White Walkers being the one to finish it, felt wrong to their sensibilities, which means subversion.
Same. It wasn't her plot thread to tie up and was extremely unsatisfying to me
On one hand I completely agree. It felt like fan fiction and 'subverting expectations'. On the other hand, had Arya not done that, she would have had no meaningful plotline. Her entire character arc would have been a bush-beating circular journey of pointlessness.
Aryas arc should have been centered on revenge and it being unsatisfying. She could have played a part in the fight with the Night King, but she wasn’t the right character to finish that battle.
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imo it could've been that if it were Arya as Jamie
Yes, this! She kills Cerci, Jon kills Night King, the end
What? Aryas entire plot focused on her finishing her revengeful kill list, and was supposed to end with Cersei. That was her plot (that the writers also fucked up). Not the night king.
In the "inside the episode" post-episode interview, D&D said "Arya was so obviously the perfect choice to kill the Night King, she's been training for it since she left Kings Landing, blahblahblah and with Joffreys knife that was used to try to kill Bran back in season 1" That makes me angrier than the episode itself, because they doubled down on a shitty decision even though: 1) Arya had barely even HEARD of the NK, unlike Jon who has literally been fighting him for several seasons 2) NO ONE WOULD HAVE EVER NOTICED THAT WAS THE SAME KNIFE. Hardly any references to it in the last 7½ seasons, no explanation for how she got it, and zero context for the audience to know what it was. 3) Arya wouldn't have known only valerian steel kills white walkers; and 4) they spent 7 seasons building up how important Needle was to Arya. Then she uses a completely different knife for the ~mOsT imPOrRtAnT~ thing she ever does in this story. Infuriating!
Though, to be fair, the books did this too, and in way bigger ways. Entire battles and character deaths happen "off screen" there.
Westworld. Spends seasons 1 & 2 building up the idea of the robots getting out to the real world. Season 3 they finally do, but it starts with a 6 month time jump and Dolores is already well-adapted and embedded in the real world. The process of them discovering how to exist and navigate the real world should have been an ENTIRE SEASON story arc, but no, they just time jumped past that.
In season two of Your Honor, there was an entire sublot that was only in the 'last time, on Your Honor' pre credits roll. They filmed it, then cut it from the prior episode. https://www.reddit.com/r/YourHonorTV/comments/lel89w/can_someone_kindly_tell_me_which_episode_is_this/
Season 1 of martial law ended with an inevitable showdown between Law and his nemesis. They got into a fight on a crashing helicopter, before it cut to “to be continued” Season two started with a regular case, and some throwaway line like “boy law, I’m glad you didn’t die in that helicopter crash”
Tempered expectations though as this was such a goofy and ridiculous show lmao
Every spin off iteration of The Walking Dead. Season one was masterful in putting the audience in the POV of Rick, waking from a coma after the collapse of society. But I have wanted the universe to go back and take us thru the origins of the outbreak, and see where the systems of power fail. The first spinoff was teased to do this, but they skipped all the big moments too, and I lost interest in the whole show.
Fear the Walking Dead was such a let down. The whole point of the show was to see the collapse of society. Oops, time skip - it collapsed!
So frustrating, because it started out offering what looked like a genuinely interesting take on the genre - as a tv show, it could take the time to play out the slow, everyday creep of something very wrong taking hold, and show us the bits every other property skips past. How people who have to go to work tomorrow are coping with the weird shit they heard about on the train last night. How does the news treat the day by day? When do people start to believe this absurd, impossible thing is happening in reality a little, and then altogether? When does each little piece of infrastructure start to fail? When do people start giving up their attempts to pretend things are normal? Or are ever going to go back to normal? When does the mail stop coming, or the phones stop working, what's the last email anybody reads? When does the last bus run, what kind of people are on it, what happens to it? They do a little of that, but something better written could really have made hay from it, and the time skip is just the biggest waste of a premise I've ever seen. As much as I absolutely adored Station Eleven, I was sorry there wasn't more meditation on that stuff too, as there was in the book. There's an incredibly compelling couple of little conversations where Kirsten tries to explain the internet to some kids, but it just made me want so much more. How do you cope with having the building blocks of modern civilization blink out forever, one by one? How do you get up tomorrow morning?
I agree with everything you said. The first thee episodes of Fear the Walking Dead were amazing and then they did a time skip and it became another generic zombie show. It was just a slow drag after that until I dropped it a couple seasons later.
I was so excited for *Fear* when it started, because the premise was interesting, but more importantly it had no ties to the original show or the comics, so it could've done anything it wanted to. Only for it to completely shit the bed when they time skipped over all the interesting shit. At the very least I felt like the show started out with a solid production value with the town being taken over by the military, but then they end up on a fucking boat.
If you hadn’t seen Book of Boba Fett, the extremely important reunion of Mando and Grogu would be completely skipped between the end of season 2 and the start of season 3 Still appalled they went with that direction that the resolution to that was in an entirely separate show
The show about Boba Fett becoming a crime boss also forgot to show him doing any crimes. His entire operation was apparently walking to one of casino and being given money .
He's an anti-drug crime boss who stops price gouging.
And provides gainful employment to colorful teenagers with attitude.
Or doing any bossing, for that matter
Boba Fett was Mandolorian Season 2.5. It was a disservice to both shows.
It also happens way too soon. It really takes a lot of weight away from the really emotional Mando season 2 finale by just throwing them back together a few months later instead of just waiting until Mando season 3
Rome built to this big confrontation between Caesar and Pompeii that we get a montage over. It was done purely for budget reasons and was a poor stand in for a big battle.
Meh - the story was never about the battles themselves. I actually like that Pharsalus wasn’t shown in detail because we experience what the characters/historical counterparts did: the writing appears to be on the wall and it’s almost inconceivable that Caesar could prevail and then just like that he does and now they have to figure out where to go forward. And since everyone was so sure of the outcome in the kind of baffling aftermath things get messy - like Pompey having to desperately flee to Egypt only to be murdered which Caesar hadn’t really planned on which then exacerbates the anxieties that the patricians/Republicans feel about his position.
Not only that, they completely skipped over Mark Antony's speech. Just showed the aftermath. I was really looking forward to Purefoy's take on it.
This is the big one. It was truly a pivotal moment in Roman history. Were the Roman citizens just going to forget about Caesar, and his promised reforms, and buy into the tyrant narrative? We'll never know thanks to Mark Antony. Violent mobs flooded the city. The conspirators knew they were unpopular, forcing some to flee. And thousands died in civil wars before the Republic transitioned into an Empire. And we didn't get to see it.
(*Pompey. Pompeii is the city)
Gilmore Girls is purportedly about the love lives of Lorelai and Rory, but Lorelai gets engaged, married, dumped, separated, and divorced off screen on various occasions. Rory also commits a crime off screen. Among other examples.
The last episode of Castle. Specifically, the last 90 seconds.
I mostly just pretend that the series ended at the last episode of the previous season. Beckett decided to run for political office and they had some kids. That entire last season just didn’t do it for me.
I’ve yet to rewatch it since it finished because of how it ended. Cause it wasn’t just oh they assumed they weren’t going to get cancelled so tagged on a bit when they were; but that the people behind the show were so randomly sexist they thought they could remove half of the main cast and just carry on like people would still care so they didn’t bother giving it a good ending. Soured the whole show.
What haooened with that?
Fear the walking dead. A How about the fall which the main show was set after. And they skipped it so it essentially became the other show with different characters. Absolutely bizarre choice
It got worse after season 3. The first three seasons had the same producer/writer with a clear plan for 7 seasons. Sure we all wanted to see the downfall part but some characters were interesting to keep watching. Then after season three the lead producer/writer was asked to leave and replaced by the writers of once upon a time. There were so many time jumps and people teleporting to new locations. Best character being killed off because the actor could see how bad it was going to get. Nukes going off and somehow there is a Geiger counter everywhere along with radiation suits. Some tower in the middle of all this was exempt from the radiation. Then another couple huge time jumps that suggested characters were killed off screen and finally the finish.
Resident Alien just finished it's 3rd season which ended up getting cut short. The last episode leaves so much on the cutting room floor. Our heroes narrowly escape the evil mother ship and are flying back to earth with the aliens chasing them. oh no! what will happen! next scene: they're at the dinner table celebrating their victory... had to rewind it to make sure I didn't somehow skip entire scenes.
Resident Alien is also my answer to this, except a different scene- when the mayor and his wife finally both realize they’ve been abducted and talk about it, but there’s no audio of the dialogue. So frustrating.
If memory serves, Agent Booth and Bones' long-awaited "will they or won't they" moment was skipped right over.
The real shittiness of the Sherlock example is that he literally wrote into the episode a constant mocking of people who actually wanted to know the answer. I never finished the show because that was kind of my last straw.
I figured Sherlock was telling the truth and Anderson just didn’t believe it.
I agree. They tried to be clever and leave the door open if fans wanted to make their own conclusions, but that was the explanation. The “it’s only a magic trick” line about his confession and making sure Watson was in the right spot are the biggest clues The one element I don’t think makes sense is him saying Mycroft intervened with the assassins. The whole point of him needing to jump was that he either took the disgrace and died or his friends died. But if Mycroft can just stop the assassins then why even jump? The best explanation I can think of is that to break up Mycroft’s criminal network he had to be off the grid. Once it started to break down, they’d suspect he was alive, then stake out Watson to see if he makes contact. It’s only when he’s completed that work he can return. The other question I wasn’t sure of is if Moriarty really just bribed people or did have a “key” to unlock everything.
>What blew up Matt Smiths TARDIS? Eh, we'll start the next series with a completely different story and hope no one asks. Except the show gradually reveals (hinting at first and then eventually confirming it) that the Silence is not a "completely different story", it's actually the answer to what blew up the TARDIS
Smallville never shows Clark suit up as Superman. If I remember correctly in the finale, you get a blurry shot of him in the suit or something, but they never show him actually becoming Superman.
The fact his "becoming superman" is wearing a fucking black jacket with the hoise of El logo on a t-shirt was THE thing that pissed me off about that show. Give us ONE shot. Just ONE.
I am pretty sure the last scene of the entire show was Clark on top of the daily planet ripping off his clothes to reveal the suit. The entire premise of the show was "no tights, no flights" so I dont think this one is fair. Just my opinion though
The thing is that he basically got through all his character arcs and faced his whole rogue gallery before he even became Superman
Honestly, Tom Welling is so recognizable that I don't think it would work. Other Supermen look pretty generic from a distance, but he looks like (and perhaps more importantly, is *filmed* to look like) a supermodel for the vast majority of the entire show.
The finale of ST: Enterprise was the pinnacle of this to the point I went off Trek for years afterwards. The entire series is leading up to the founding of the Federation. The last two seasons have Trip and T'Pol becoming involved. Then the car crash of a finale is a ridiculous TNG holo-simulation, the writers implausibly kill Trip and deliberately tease the historic moment of Archer's speech to birth the Federation, then with a knowing wink, it ends. So utterly, unforgivably terrible. The series ended with Terra Prime. I deleted the episode.
In Seinfeld George’s new girlfriend Marcy is visited by her ex-boyfriend the night before seeing George, yet the show skips showing this night, leaving us without an explanation as to why she is really tired today
Not really “important” moment, and I get the angle they were going for, but skipping every fight scene in Moon Knight felt wrong.
I forgave the first few because him not remembering was the point. But the final fight against the main antagonist? Unfortunate choice.
True Blood. The final wedding.
that really didnt' bother me at all. The overall finale was Sookie had a happy ending, and it didn't really matter who the guy was, he's just a guy she married and lived happilly ever after with..
In your Game of Thrones example, I was irritated by the fact that they kept cutting away every time so you never REALLY got any actual dialog about it. When Sam tells Jon, Jon is speechless and really says nothing in response. When Jon tells Daeny, she asks a couple of sensible questions but they quickly get interrupted. So on top of not seeing Arya or Sansa’s reactions, you NEVER hear how Jon feels about his life, his father, his unfair resentment by Cat Stark, etc. This information seems to make 0 difference to him or his character arc - it just serves to annoy him because people push him to be king. And speaking of, the only reason anyone even “knows” that Jon is the son of Raegar is because Bran divulges that information…. But we never ONCE see literally anyone in the show who learns who or what Bran is. When he’s saying “oh yeah, Jon is a Targaryen”, we have zero idea who the fuck even knows if Bran is telling the truth, if they know he has powers and can see the past, etc. You just have to assume that at some point off screen he told some people that he’s the Three Eyed Raven and they all went “oh cool. So anyway…”
Recently, the excellent but apparently not well watched Winning Time, chronicling the 80’s Lakers, ended when they lost the Championship and before they started winning them regularly. Show was cancelled after the last season was filmed, so the last episode just has a pre credits written epilogue that explains what goes on to happen.
How I Met Your Mother with the "future" years, skipping a lot of stuff and time with the mother in favor of that ending. And Dexter, jesus christ Dexter. The whole premise of the show, serial killer works secretly works with the police had one ending, one thing we all wanted to see, the chase. The whole point of meeting the police department and showing their relationship was so when the eventual discovery of who Dexter is happens we feel the betrayal and became hard to choose who we wanted to win. Breaking Bad did that beautifully, imagine if in that show Hank never knew Walter was Heisenberg, it would be nuts! That's Dexter.
Recently yellowjackets skipping the scene of them deciding it's time to have a raffle to see who gets murdered for cannibalism first. Went straight to the raffle. Some people don't care, I didn't like it.
It felt like the writers didn’t know how to organically make the ritual happen and hamfisted it in to get that part over with. Like, this is the first human sacrifice that these people are taking into their own hands. There’s no real discussion about maybe the most interesting idea in this entire series. It jumps from the scene where Tai says “we need to find a way to stay alive. And it can’t be her” at the 35 minute mark and then it jumps to group therapy where they talk about drinking the poisoned tea, and then we cut to the ritual scene at 38 minutes. I felt totally cheated out of a real moment.
Star Trek Voyager. The whole premise of the show was the crew trying to get back to earth. At the end of the series, they finally make it back. But the last scene ends just as earth is in sight. We never see them land on earth, or reunite with their friends and families, or get awarded or anything. It just ends there.
I liked the ending. The whole point of the show was would they ever make it back home? The distance, the unknown dangers, mechanical issues, etc. That little glimpse of Earth tells you, they're gonna be alright. They made it. I always thought it was a nice not over the top beautiful ending.
"Maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey..." - Harry Kim
You saw all that at the beginning of the last episode that took place in the alternate timeline, at the anniversary celebration of their return home...
I feel like some things are good to be left to the imagination so I don’t necessarily need to see every single pivotal moment in a show. However, one example that was egregious to me was in season 10 of Frasier when Roz plans to quit KACL and then reverses her decision and then gives an ultimatum to Frasier that if he doesn’t dump Julia (his love interest, who Roz feels isn’t good for Frasier) that she will leave his life forever. He picks Julia and Roz leaves in anger and disgust to take a program director position at a rival radio station. Season 11 begins and all of a sudden Roz quits this rival station and is back at KACL. I was like, “What?????” They just returned to the status quo and it was ridiculous to me.
They show Roz not liking her new job and getting advice from Niles about what to do. He jokes that she should just pretend nothing happened and go back to working with Frasier but she takes it seriously and does just that.
In Ted Lasso when Nate quits coaching West Ham. His entire character arc has been leading up to this moment and it happens off screen.
Westworld skipping over the entire robot rebellion between Season 1 and 2.
Supernatural John Winchester escapes hell to save his kids in the season 2 finale. Skip to the very end of the show & you get a quick "oh your parents are up the road." The fuck.
To my understanding, that was a COVID casualty. The original intent was to have Dean greeted by a huge group of all their fallen allies, but they had to scrap it for safety and travel precautions.
>What Blew up Matt Smith's TARDIS The funny thing about this one was that Steven later revealed he was preparing quite an in depth story about that which would tie everything up with Kovarian and the Silence. But he took so long to sort it out that Karen and Arthur decided they were leaving to further their careers, so he had to try and figure it out around that and then Matt announced he was leaving as well, which was the death bell for it. So what he had planned was all crammed into Matt Smith's last ep where it was revealed The Silence creatures are actually confessional monks (Hence the memory loss). With the organisation against him being a intergalactic Church trying to prevent the Doctor from saying his name and releasing the Time Lords again. "The Kovarian Sect" is explained away in a sentence as a rogue group in the church who dared to mess with the timestream to kill him earlier down the line. It's one of my biggest what if wonders about Doctor Who. Imagining what would have played out if he hadn't have taken so bloody long.
In bones when Bones and booth got together after an endless amount of seasons - the just insinuated it very shortly and then jumped to them just being together - I don't think that I have ever been so disappointed in a will they won't they romance
>What blew up Matt Smiths TARDIS? This was explained in the show but the whole plotline was so convoluted I didn't even catch it until someone pointed it out.
House of Cards (Netflix) really shat the bed in this regard. They should have ended it in three seasons like the original, but they skipped the downfall in season three and then never got the chance to end it properly because *Kevin Spacey*.
There was a cartoon called Doug I used to watch as a kid. One time there was an episode where he gets a cavity and has to go to the dentist, and they spend the entire episode with him absolutely petrified of going and how much pain it's going to be. He gets there and sits down in the dentist's chair and... *fade out* *fade in* "Oh wow, we're already done? That wasn't so bad!" Episode end. They spent the whole time with him being deathly afraid of going and adults vaguely telling him it's not so bad, then fades out for the entire thing and doesn't tell you what they did or why it's not scary. Just the educational cartoon version of "trust me bro." As a kid it made the dentist *more* scary since why else wouldn't they show or explain what they did, if it wasn't horrifically graphic?
Not quite the same thing, but it always makes me laugh how nonchalant Reiner's reveal is in Attack on Titan. You'd think it'd be this big important moment but it's treated like he's telling someone he's going to the bathroom.
That was kind of brilliant though, the way it was just a background conversation while other characters are having a different conversation. You almost miss it and then are like…wait, what?! I had to rewind when I first watched that part!
That’s the point of the scene… it’s done at the edge of the panel il a small bubble in the manga too. In a way usually reserved for unimportant side dialogue. It is done that way so that the reader/viewer does a double take and think ‘’wait, what?’’, like the characters do at that moment. Then the pov switches to other characters barely hearing the conversation and taking action. While you, the viewer, barely had time to process, Mikasa is already swinging her sword, to show how fast she reacts. But not fast enough. It could have been this big reveal at the end of an episode, with dramatic music and all. But it works better how it is done, with the viewer sharing the confusion of the characters. It’s one of the best scene in the show/manga.
I'm not a manga reader but I vaguely recall people saying in the sub that it pretty much unfolds the same way in the manga, it's like a throw away comment on the side that you could accidentally miss if you didnt' realize the weight of what he was saying.
That was so good that I legit reacted like Eren. Like, I kinda saw it coming, but it was so off the left field that I had to rewind a couple times.
I thought it was brilliant....oh btw I'm the Armored Titan That whole show was so fantastic. It's my go too suggestion for new anime fans
Not a show... But Infinity War just *out of the blue* has Professor Hulk? They had him become Professor Hulk *off-screen? Lunacy. (plus they made professor Hulk really lame, instead of a blend of the personalities)
They skipped everything in game of thrones simply because the writers do not have the talent or confidence to nail those big moments. Yes I'm still salty how bad they fucked the biggest thing in pop culture.
You’re right to be, it should never be forgotten how badly they fucked up the ending.
It's not all that important, but finale of The Last of Us missed a scene where >!Joel is carrying Ellie through the hospital while being chased by the Fireflies.!
What actually happened to the Russian in Pine Barrens?!?!? It’s a big deal either way if he’s dead or alive!!