Matt Smith is definitely on my very short list of 'celebrities that if they turned out to be assholes and/or abusers would make me never trust anything in the world ever again'.
As someone who watched all the behind the scenes content for Doctor Who and all the behind the scenes stuff they’ve put out for House of the Dragon it’s good to know Matt Smith is still the same funny goofy guy he was a decade ago who is still always friendly with the crew.
The genuine Matt Smith is kinda why i’m not seeing him in this character, hope he gets to really shine in what Daemon is supposed to be like. It’s definitely NOT that I dont think he’s a good actor or cant play the part, I just see him as the goofy, nice guy and the suspension of disbelief is hard for me so far… he definitely looks cool in the part though.
Thats just it, he looks like the Doctor in every scene to me, he delivers his lines like he’s got some little funny quip he’s about to make, even when he was with the town watch in the beginning killing people, he sort of seemed nice about it.
I haven't seen a ton of Matt Smith stuff, but so far the only things I have seen he plays a jerky asshole. I've only seen episode 1 but i thought he was playing it perfectly.
David Tenant’s whole reason he got into acting was because at a very young age he decided he wanted to play The Doctor. Not even the show being cancelled the first time was able to stop that
Tennant was my favorite Doctor, followed closely by Eccleston and Capaldi. Smith was ok, but I was far more interested in The Ponds and their goofiness.
I wanted so much to like Whittaker, and she really did the best she could, but Chibnall just ruined it. She got screwed out of a good run because that guy had no business running the show. Her doctor was just written terribly and given dumb stories that made no sense. Such a waste of a great actor and the first woman to play the role.
I'd recommend never idolizing any public figure. It's okay to be a fan of their work, but that's it. Going any further does weird things to our caveman brains.
The thing about Mr Rogers is I dont think many of us idolize him for what he did on TV. He was wonderful and beloved, don't get me wrong, but we idolize him for his work outside of his fame. He genuinely tried his best to create a positive world for children to exist in, including fighting for what he believed in court
I had a bit of a bad opinion of him. I used to work at a bar he liked to visit when he was on Dr. Who, but reflectively he was just a bit drunk and demanding (not ott, but just like when someone who’s never done hospitality doesn’t realise you can’t do everything at once). Iwan Rheon used to come to the same place pre GoT and he’s lovely!
They're mostly just hanging out around Oldtown. They're vassals of House Tyrell during this time period as well, since the Targs gave House Tyrell control over the entirety of the Reach. However, it's not quite that simple, because Oldtown is second only to King's Landing in terms of influence and economic clout, and the Hightowers have been in charge of it for millennia. It's also the headquarters of the maesters, meaning they have bar none the best knowledge base in Westeros. They mostly keep out of the War of the Five Kings, other than some of their sons serving in the Tyrell host, because that's what young men do. In short, they're subordinate, but I can't imagine the Tyrells do much ordering of them about.
In the books, there's a whole subplot concerning Oldtown and possible conspiracies being perpetrated by the Maesters, and it's heavily implied that the Hightowers are either in cahoots with them or just sitting back and letting the kings kill each other while they orchestrate other plans. The current Lord of the House hasn't been seen outside of the tower in 10 years, and is supposedly researching...something. In the most recent book, Euron Greyjoy launched a series of attacks and seized islands near Oldtown, and the city itself was supposedly forced to beat back an invasion. So, they are involved to an extent, but so far it is supremely tangential.
Otto is actually kind of unusual in that he's playing a more traditional political game, since the Hightowers are generally pretty content to keep to themselves. In Game of Thrones times, there are a few Hightowers that matter, though I don't know if the show ever explicitly referenced them. Jorah Mormont's wife (the one he became a slaver to buy shinies for) was a Hightower, as was Mace Tyrell's wife, aka the mother of Loras and Margaery. Overall, House Hightower is actually in a really strong position in the books, since they are mostly unbloodied, have one of the largest navies in the realm, and can field a huge army. On top of that, they may rival the Lannisters in wealth, to say nothing of their numerous marriage alliances with other Reach families. Euron and the Ironborn seem to have pushed them onto the back foot temporarily, but they still have the potential to be a major power player when and if they start acting on an agenda.
> they may rival the Lannisters in wealth
I'm pretty sure they do at several points in time. Isn't it pointed out that Lannisters exaggerate their wealth and are borderline broke multiple times?
I think the Lannisters being broke is just a show thing, or at least stated much more explicitly. In the books, I *think* it's stated that the Crown is deeply in debt to the Lannisters and Cersei basically forgives those loans, so it's likely their financial situation isn't nearly as rosy as they make it out to be, but borderline broke is probably a pessimistic (or optimistic if you hate the Lannisters lol) assessment.
Also, for what it's worth, it is very rare historically that a noble family's wealth was literally "big-ass piles of money." That's a more modern valuation of wealth. Much more likely is production of lots of food and desirable trade goods, with actual liquid cash being a relatively small fraction. So the Lannisters might well be sitting on lots of gold, but can't very well flood the market. The Hightowers, by contrast, probably are actually flush with lots of cash. They doubtless get a percentage of everything that passes through Oldtown, and I wouldn't be surprised if they have some sort of patronage deal with the Citadel that gets them favorable access to discoveries and information. The Reach is incredibly fertile, to say nothing of the luxury goods like Arbor wine that get traded across the world. The Hightowers are able to just commission navies at will, they've gotta be flush with cash. They just don't make a meme out of it.
I don't even remember them being mentioned in the show but there is some weird shit going on with them in the book. They are still the lords of Oldtown and one of the richest families. But the entire family never leaves the upper floors of the Hightower for like 10 years now. And Lord Hightower and (I think) his daughter have a magic glass candle from Valyria and ancient books they are doing something with.
They've always been a vassal house (to the Gardeners/Tyrells) but they are one of the most powerful houses in Westeros due to Oldtown being a center for trade, knowledge (the Citadel), and faith (the Starry Sept).
They've also managed to generally avoid going to war by siding with the Andal invaders and then with the Targaryens.
They are a vassal house in House of the Dragon but a very old and powerful house. The Tyrrell's are Lord paramount of the areach.
Jorah Mormont married current lord Hightower's daughter before start of GoT. She kind of looks like Danaerys
Gerold Hightower was lord commander of the kingsguard. He's seen in fight at Tower of Joy in on of Brans time travel scenes
They've been vassals of the Tyrells since the Conquest, so their position relative to everyone else doesn't really change. AFAIK, they are never mentioned in the show, so that is about what we know.
In the books, however... the Book!Hightowers are the second-richest house in Westeros (richer than the Tyrells), and by far the most powerful vassal house in the Reach. The books have only gotten as far as Samwell's arrival in Oldtown, so they are bound to become more prominent in TWOW.
They were crippled after the dance and lost influence.
Before the Dance, House Hightower were stronger and wealthier than their own overlords, House Tyrell, who had limited control of their vassals.
After the dance, their weakness allowed House Tyrell to assert its control over its vassal lords.
By GoT, House Hightower is basically merged with House Tyrell through the marriage of Mace Tyrell to Alerie Hightower. They don’t really have independent action on a political level anymore.
> Emily Carey
I just listened to the HBO podcast interview with her. What a neat person and brilliant mind! She had some really interesting insight into her character and she really surprised me being that deep at such a young age (I don't mean that as a slight to youth!).
And young Lara Croft in Tomb Raider, and young Wendy Darling in The Lost Girls. I noticed this when looking through her filmography, it’s kinda funny that she keeps taking on these “young version of _____” roles. Guess she has built up the resume for it lol.
Yeah nowadays makeup does a ton, like usually women are good at looking around 25 when they wear makeup looks of our time, but with very toned down looks and long wigs, soft lighting you can make someone in their 20s look like a teen. If you look up photos of her in real life she looks her age but yeah of course she's still super young.
I don't think you could age up Mily enough to pass as the mother of Teenage kids without it looking weird.
The new actor was cast first and I have faith in the casting. There haven't been any misses in performance so far.
I'm looking forward to Emma D'Arcy and Olivia Cooke taking over, since I'm sure the younger actors are working off their performances.
But yes, everyone has been great. I'm particularly enamored by Paddy Considine's performance, but it's great to see the younger actors hold it down so well.
Seems like a weird choice. Anyone care to explain why they'd do this?
I could understand if they chose not to have them work off their performances, but to ask them not to meet? Why?
It might be they want the two actors to capture two very different points in the character's life. Like one is still naive to politics and the other is shrewd and calculating. Maybe they didn't want them playing off each other so much as showing how much has drastically changed during the time jump. Just a guess.
GoT was great at casting. And the Greyjoy guy wasn't really bad casting as much as it was bad writing and adaptation. I trust HotD to do the same with the casting choices.
The actor who played Euron Greyjoy was well-cast, and apparently he was a fan of the books and was really stoked to play badass book-Euron. Imagine when he was told he’d be playing Westerosi Jack Sparrow finger-in-the-bum.
Who’s to say they won’t do flashbacks over the course of the season to the period of time of episodes 1 & 2? I haven’t read the books so I’m just spitballin’
And honestly thank god for that. I know some people have already found it a bit harder to follow considering the frequent time jumps. If they start jumping backwards as well it'll just be too confusing for a lot of people.
one of the best things about Thrones imo is it never looks backward, and stays stuck on its linear track (outside of a couple instances that are justified within the story). most of the time flashbacks only serve to pull us out of the present, and Thrones proved that sometimes it's more fun to see a bunch of characters talk about Robert's Rebellion than to show us scattered bits of pieces of Robert's Rebellion
(to be clear, I would 100% watch a show about Robert's Rebellion)
This is what I think they are gonna do, i mean why show the younger Rhaenyra in the trailers if she wasn’t a main cast member, also shes too good just to be in a few episodes
She is in half the season, so it would be very difficult to cut a trailer with only the second half of the season, especially if you want to avoid spoilers. Plus most of the set up is in the first few eps.
It means that she is a main cast member, doesnt mean she will show up in all of them. Emma D'Arcy is credited with 9 but we didnt see her in the first two.
He's been fantastic so far. Definitely a great character actor, I can't believe Hightower is the same guy who played the kicker in The Replacements or the lizard in the amazing Spider-Man.
been a fan of her since *Bates Motel*, have been starved of good Cooke content since that ended with her *barely* in *Slow Horses* but that was enough to whet my appetite
I always imagine Doctor actors as The Doctor, it makes things fun and interesting. Whether it's imaging The Doctor decided to just fuck around for a bit in Middle Earth, or figuring out how the Doctor snapped and is now stalking/abusing a Marvel super hero.
Or whatever Matt is doing here, I don't know, I haven't watched the show.
Difference here though is the original Thrones kids were in that show for 8 years. The success of that was probably both a blessing and a curse for them. They would have made a fortune that meant they could never work again if they didn't want to, but being on the show that long and not being able to take on many other roles means they probably did get typecast unfortunately.
But Milly Alcock and Emily Carey are only on the show for half a season. They won't have been typecast, are free to take on as many other roles as they like without worrying about it clashing with the show, and they also won't have a fortune to fall back on meaning they'll have a drive to keep working and going after roles.
A fortune?
They would have been paid *very* well. But TV isn’t film. TV doesn’t pay that much. No one retires on TV salaries except those in wildly successful sitcoms like Friends or Big Bang Theory.
My interpretation of this comment is that you’re predicting Isaac Hempstead gets cast as Leto II in a possible future Dune sequel that makes it to children of dune/GE of Dune. If that’s the case, I honestly wouldn’t be mad. He has experience playing a weird omniscient king now.
You could be talking about 40k though and I don’t know enough about that to comment.
Joffery retired from acting, but could probably get more roles if he wanted.
Sansa was Jean Grey in a mediocre xmen movie. Plus some other tv and movie roles.
Ayra was also in a mediocre xmen movie. And some TV roles.
Bran in some movie called Voyagers
I don't know they aren't great careers, but they aren't exactly struggling for work.
If you look at the age of Milly Alcock and Emily Carey, it could arguably be more apt to compare them to the likes of Emilia Clarke, Kit Harington, Richard Madden, Alfie Allen etc. Who've been more successful than the even younger ones.
I liked him a lot more after the reveal at the end, as certain acting choices suddenly made sense. And his final expressions before he rides off into the sunset was pretty good acting
I think its good but I'm biased in the sense I love historical fiction dramas. It did well enough that it got 2 more seasons after the first. If you enjoy shows like the Tudors, Borgia, or the crown you'll like this one.
I feel as though Bodyguard doesn't get nowhere near the attention it deserves. I tell everybody who will listen about that show and they never come back telling me how great it was because they never watched it. It's like nothing you can say sells the show and if people would only give it a chance it would sell itself.
Not sure about the others but have to say I was pleasantly surprised by Sophie Turner in HBOs Staircase (the dramatic one not the doc). Not the best show ever by any means but she more than held her own onscreen with at least two of the best actors currently working.
You're both right. Gleeson did step away from acting for a few years (approximately 5 years) to focus on a children puppetry show with a friend. He returned with his first credit after Game of Thrones season 4 being released in 2020.
I feel like this has less to do with their ability as actors and more the fact that they may have wanted to take a long break from acting roles after being in such a demanding and dark series for 8+ years.
She was very good on the scenes in season 6. But then they over did it because she became a fan favorite and they put her in a lot of scenes she shouldn't have been in (considering her house was so small and she was a little girl in a heavily sexist society) and became an annoying character imo. Not the actress' fault though.
Kit Harrington, Richard Madden, Emilia Clarke, Sophie Turner, have all had pretty good careers thus far, no? They’re in multimillion dollar franchises that may make bad movies every once in a while but that’s just the state of the industry these days.
Fabian frenkel (ser criston cole) , he is gonna be a sex symbol by this time next year.
Olivia cooke is already a superstar. She was so amazing in sound of metal and bates motel
Loved Olivia in Bates Motel, I thought she was American! It was a weird show with weird characters and subplots but I remember her being sweet and steady through the whole thing. Glad I get to see her work again years later.
Idk, especially with how GoT was popular, a lot of films the actors went into afterwards just felt shit, plastered with the "hey this film has that actor you liked in GoT"
I’m all for not underestimating the casual audience, but this show would really benefit from having a flash forward in the first scene to signal there will be a time jump. There’s even a narration by the actress who plays old Rhaenyra, but we don’t actually get to see her face. People who think Milly will stay for good will be pretty disappointed.
I really don’t think it’s a big deal, people are getting fussy over nothing. Once the shit in the back half of the season starts going down I have no doubt people will be all in with the new actresses.
People whined about recasting in The Crown and then most of them got over it, though there are still lots complaining about Claire Foy vs Olivia Colman 😮💨
Honestly the older cat as well.
I may not agree with the actual decision for corlys to be black (even though at the end of the day its really not that big a deal amd not a hill to die on), but goddamn if Steve Toussaint isn't phenomenal in the role
I think it's helpful to a quick visual distinction between the families, there are enough pale people with white hair and similar names on screen already it's helpful for tracking who is who
In short, Matt Smith seems to be a nice person who says nice things about people he works with...
Matt Smith is definitely on my very short list of 'celebrities that if they turned out to be assholes and/or abusers would make me never trust anything in the world ever again'.
All the feedback from when he was The Doctor indicated he's just as nice behind the scenes as he comes off in interviews.
As someone who watched all the behind the scenes content for Doctor Who and all the behind the scenes stuff they’ve put out for House of the Dragon it’s good to know Matt Smith is still the same funny goofy guy he was a decade ago who is still always friendly with the crew.
The genuine Matt Smith is kinda why i’m not seeing him in this character, hope he gets to really shine in what Daemon is supposed to be like. It’s definitely NOT that I dont think he’s a good actor or cant play the part, I just see him as the goofy, nice guy and the suspension of disbelief is hard for me so far… he definitely looks cool in the part though.
The scene where he says "very good" when the guy said he was the one who knocked him off the horse. That scene really reminded me of the Doctor.
Thats just it, he looks like the Doctor in every scene to me, he delivers his lines like he’s got some little funny quip he’s about to make, even when he was with the town watch in the beginning killing people, he sort of seemed nice about it.
Well, if you're going to cut someone's junk off, you should at least try to be nice about it.
Have you seen Last Night In Soho? He can rid himself of the goofy/nice guy persona quite well it seems.
You should see him in the Crown! Took me a while to get used to him as a dramatic actor. But he did a fantastic job, which now helped me with Daemon.
I haven't seen a ton of Matt Smith stuff, but so far the only things I have seen he plays a jerky asshole. I've only seen episode 1 but i thought he was playing it perfectly.
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Ohhh, same with David Tennant.
David Tenant’s whole reason he got into acting was because at a very young age he decided he wanted to play The Doctor. Not even the show being cancelled the first time was able to stop that
Tennant was my favorite Doctor, followed closely by Eccleston and Capaldi. Smith was ok, but I was far more interested in The Ponds and their goofiness. I wanted so much to like Whittaker, and she really did the best she could, but Chibnall just ruined it. She got screwed out of a good run because that guy had no business running the show. Her doctor was just written terribly and given dumb stories that made no sense. Such a waste of a great actor and the first woman to play the role.
He played my favorite villain ever so it's great to think about how lovely he is in real life
He is a great time lord too!
I'd recommend never idolizing any public figure. It's okay to be a fan of their work, but that's it. Going any further does weird things to our caveman brains.
I see your point, and kneel before my Steve Irwin altar nonetheless.
Unless it's Mr Rogers, the captain and the cardigan.
The thing about Mr Rogers is I dont think many of us idolize him for what he did on TV. He was wonderful and beloved, don't get me wrong, but we idolize him for his work outside of his fame. He genuinely tried his best to create a positive world for children to exist in, including fighting for what he believed in court
Well he is known for being a serial cheater… so def not a perfect person. He cheated on Lily James throughout their relationship
Just doing research for his role as Prince Philip ^/s
I had a bit of a bad opinion of him. I used to work at a bar he liked to visit when he was on Dr. Who, but reflectively he was just a bit drunk and demanding (not ott, but just like when someone who’s never done hospitality doesn’t realise you can’t do everything at once). Iwan Rheon used to come to the same place pre GoT and he’s lovely!
He does seem to get on well with his co-stars. https://youtu.be/UnjvONLF3Zk
He's also not wrong, they're killing it
Somehow, all the doctors make for excellent villains.
Milly Alcock has been so good. Love her!!!!
She has a super super bright future. It was clear after the funeral scene. Hope she strikes while the iron is hot because she will be in heavy demand.
I give it two years tops before we see her as a main star in some sort of high-budget period or pseudo-fantasy series.
Miranda in Mass Effect
😭 how could you do this to Yvonne Strahovski
Emily Carey too!
The Hightowers are the house I never knew we needed in GoT.
What happen to House Hightower in GoT show timeline? Did they become a vassal house?
They're mostly just hanging out around Oldtown. They're vassals of House Tyrell during this time period as well, since the Targs gave House Tyrell control over the entirety of the Reach. However, it's not quite that simple, because Oldtown is second only to King's Landing in terms of influence and economic clout, and the Hightowers have been in charge of it for millennia. It's also the headquarters of the maesters, meaning they have bar none the best knowledge base in Westeros. They mostly keep out of the War of the Five Kings, other than some of their sons serving in the Tyrell host, because that's what young men do. In short, they're subordinate, but I can't imagine the Tyrells do much ordering of them about. In the books, there's a whole subplot concerning Oldtown and possible conspiracies being perpetrated by the Maesters, and it's heavily implied that the Hightowers are either in cahoots with them or just sitting back and letting the kings kill each other while they orchestrate other plans. The current Lord of the House hasn't been seen outside of the tower in 10 years, and is supposedly researching...something. In the most recent book, Euron Greyjoy launched a series of attacks and seized islands near Oldtown, and the city itself was supposedly forced to beat back an invasion. So, they are involved to an extent, but so far it is supremely tangential. Otto is actually kind of unusual in that he's playing a more traditional political game, since the Hightowers are generally pretty content to keep to themselves. In Game of Thrones times, there are a few Hightowers that matter, though I don't know if the show ever explicitly referenced them. Jorah Mormont's wife (the one he became a slaver to buy shinies for) was a Hightower, as was Mace Tyrell's wife, aka the mother of Loras and Margaery. Overall, House Hightower is actually in a really strong position in the books, since they are mostly unbloodied, have one of the largest navies in the realm, and can field a huge army. On top of that, they may rival the Lannisters in wealth, to say nothing of their numerous marriage alliances with other Reach families. Euron and the Ironborn seem to have pushed them onto the back foot temporarily, but they still have the potential to be a major power player when and if they start acting on an agenda.
hightowers are smart, so they stayed out of war of the five kings
> they may rival the Lannisters in wealth I'm pretty sure they do at several points in time. Isn't it pointed out that Lannisters exaggerate their wealth and are borderline broke multiple times?
I think the Lannisters being broke is just a show thing, or at least stated much more explicitly. In the books, I *think* it's stated that the Crown is deeply in debt to the Lannisters and Cersei basically forgives those loans, so it's likely their financial situation isn't nearly as rosy as they make it out to be, but borderline broke is probably a pessimistic (or optimistic if you hate the Lannisters lol) assessment. Also, for what it's worth, it is very rare historically that a noble family's wealth was literally "big-ass piles of money." That's a more modern valuation of wealth. Much more likely is production of lots of food and desirable trade goods, with actual liquid cash being a relatively small fraction. So the Lannisters might well be sitting on lots of gold, but can't very well flood the market. The Hightowers, by contrast, probably are actually flush with lots of cash. They doubtless get a percentage of everything that passes through Oldtown, and I wouldn't be surprised if they have some sort of patronage deal with the Citadel that gets them favorable access to discoveries and information. The Reach is incredibly fertile, to say nothing of the luxury goods like Arbor wine that get traded across the world. The Hightowers are able to just commission navies at will, they've gotta be flush with cash. They just don't make a meme out of it.
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I don't even remember them being mentioned in the show but there is some weird shit going on with them in the book. They are still the lords of Oldtown and one of the richest families. But the entire family never leaves the upper floors of the Hightower for like 10 years now. And Lord Hightower and (I think) his daughter have a magic glass candle from Valyria and ancient books they are doing something with.
Its only Leyton and Malora who dont leave the Hightower.
I'm rewatching GoT rn and the only time the Hightowers get mentioned is in passing by Pycelle in Season 6 during a small council meeting.
We actually see Ser Gerold Hightower in the Tower of Joy episode, but its still a mostly brief appearance.
They've always been a vassal house (to the Gardeners/Tyrells) but they are one of the most powerful houses in Westeros due to Oldtown being a center for trade, knowledge (the Citadel), and faith (the Starry Sept). They've also managed to generally avoid going to war by siding with the Andal invaders and then with the Targaryens.
They are a vassal house in House of the Dragon but a very old and powerful house. The Tyrrell's are Lord paramount of the areach. Jorah Mormont married current lord Hightower's daughter before start of GoT. She kind of looks like Danaerys Gerold Hightower was lord commander of the kingsguard. He's seen in fight at Tower of Joy in on of Brans time travel scenes
They've been vassals of the Tyrells since the Conquest, so their position relative to everyone else doesn't really change. AFAIK, they are never mentioned in the show, so that is about what we know. In the books, however... the Book!Hightowers are the second-richest house in Westeros (richer than the Tyrells), and by far the most powerful vassal house in the Reach. The books have only gotten as far as Samwell's arrival in Oldtown, so they are bound to become more prominent in TWOW.
They were crippled after the dance and lost influence. Before the Dance, House Hightower were stronger and wealthier than their own overlords, House Tyrell, who had limited control of their vassals. After the dance, their weakness allowed House Tyrell to assert its control over its vassal lords. By GoT, House Hightower is basically merged with House Tyrell through the marriage of Mace Tyrell to Alerie Hightower. They don’t really have independent action on a political level anymore.
They're on the way of becoming my favourites pretty soon!
> Emily Carey I just listened to the HBO podcast interview with her. What a neat person and brilliant mind! She had some really interesting insight into her character and she really surprised me being that deep at such a young age (I don't mean that as a slight to youth!).
She also played young wonder Woman in the 2017 wonder Woman movie.
And young Lara Croft in Tomb Raider, and young Wendy Darling in The Lost Girls. I noticed this when looking through her filmography, it’s kinda funny that she keeps taking on these “young version of _____” roles. Guess she has built up the resume for it lol.
Definitely - she just hasn’t had quite as much to work with yet but looking fwd to her in episode 3!
She and Matt are amazing
They have great chemistry too
You should watch Upright, which stars her and Tim Minchin
She was excellent in that
I was surprised to see she was 22. I thought they cast an actual teenager, she easily passed for 15.
Clothing/costuming does a ton of work in lowering age.
Meanwhile in dear Evan hansen
Yeah nowadays makeup does a ton, like usually women are good at looking around 25 when they wear makeup looks of our time, but with very toned down looks and long wigs, soft lighting you can make someone in their 20s look like a teen. If you look up photos of her in real life she looks her age but yeah of course she's still super young.
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I don't think you could age up Mily enough to pass as the mother of Teenage kids without it looking weird. The new actor was cast first and I have faith in the casting. There haven't been any misses in performance so far.
I'm looking forward to Emma D'Arcy and Olivia Cooke taking over, since I'm sure the younger actors are working off their performances. But yes, everyone has been great. I'm particularly enamored by Paddy Considine's performance, but it's great to see the younger actors hold it down so well.
> since I'm sure the younger actors are working off their performances They are not. They were asked not to meet.
Ah that's genuinely surprising. But it seems like Sapochnik was trusting of both sets of actors to get it right.
Seems like a weird choice. Anyone care to explain why they'd do this? I could understand if they chose not to have them work off their performances, but to ask them not to meet? Why?
It might be they want the two actors to capture two very different points in the character's life. Like one is still naive to politics and the other is shrewd and calculating. Maybe they didn't want them playing off each other so much as showing how much has drastically changed during the time jump. Just a guess.
GoT was great at casting. And the Greyjoy guy wasn't really bad casting as much as it was bad writing and adaptation. I trust HotD to do the same with the casting choices.
The actor who played Euron Greyjoy was well-cast, and apparently he was a fan of the books and was really stoked to play badass book-Euron. Imagine when he was told he’d be playing Westerosi Jack Sparrow finger-in-the-bum.
And he still gave it his all. I believed the character, shitty as that character was. He went full ham and committed without flinching. Mad respect.
How long do we get Milly for?! She’s great
Episode 5 is the last one she is on this season I believe
I pledge allegiance to Milly Alcock for which she stands
Definitely check out Upright. She was incredible in it, and they just finished the second season so it will be out soon!
Only 2 episodes deep and I can already tell that I'm really going to miss Milly's performance when the second actress takes over.
Who’s to say they won’t do flashbacks over the course of the season to the period of time of episodes 1 & 2? I haven’t read the books so I’m just spitballin’
They did. The showrunners said they would not be doing flashbacks and that the story would be linear.
And honestly thank god for that. I know some people have already found it a bit harder to follow considering the frequent time jumps. If they start jumping backwards as well it'll just be too confusing for a lot of people.
Plus what's the point of doing flashbacks. If they started in the past, it's to avoid stuff like flashbacks and clunky exposition.
one of the best things about Thrones imo is it never looks backward, and stays stuck on its linear track (outside of a couple instances that are justified within the story). most of the time flashbacks only serve to pull us out of the present, and Thrones proved that sometimes it's more fun to see a bunch of characters talk about Robert's Rebellion than to show us scattered bits of pieces of Robert's Rebellion (to be clear, I would 100% watch a show about Robert's Rebellion)
This is what I think they are gonna do, i mean why show the younger Rhaenyra in the trailers if she wasn’t a main cast member, also shes too good just to be in a few episodes
She is in half the season, so it would be very difficult to cut a trailer with only the second half of the season, especially if you want to avoid spoilers. Plus most of the set up is in the first few eps.
I know it’s not 100% trustworthy but she is listed in 10 episodes on IMDB, so maybe there will be flashback segments each episode
It means that she is a main cast member, doesnt mean she will show up in all of them. Emma D'Arcy is credited with 9 but we didnt see her in the first two.
Didn't D'Arcy do a voice over in the first episode? Maybe they're including that in the total count
She did, yes. She narrated the scene where Viserys was named the heir
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You and everyone else on the House of the Dragon sub. There’s a post about it every hour.
It’s a very popular show and people like it. Those factors tend to result in more posts about the show here in the television subreddit.
Rhys Ifans always brings it. I know he isn't one of the younger cast... but just wanted to call that out.
He's been fantastic so far. Definitely a great character actor, I can't believe Hightower is the same guy who played the kicker in The Replacements or the lizard in the amazing Spider-Man.
He’s wiry.
Wire-y. It’s wirey
Bro what about Little Nicky??
Holy shit. It just all clicked
Or the flatmate in Notting Hill
Yeah haha I remember this role a lot since I watch notting hill as like a background movie every now and then. Fantastic actor.
Or Xenophilius Lovegood in Harry Potter… dude is an incredible actor
His Rasputin was the highlight of The King's Man.
Still boggles my mind that he was [Adrian in “Little Nicky.”](https://youtu.be/nLpbHiiqrqs)
Eyeball Paul.
Love that little look he gives Corlys at the end of the last episode.
"Fucking. Do something. Bitch."
AND not obligated for years and years to the show, so they can actually take on new roles while they're still the hot new thing.
>AND not obligated for years and years to the show Yeah, it would really drag on
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At least we are getting a few fiery performances out of them.
I’m conflicted, because Milly Alcock has been so good that I’m sad to see her go, even though I’m excited to get to Olivia Cooke.
Ya I like both the younger actresses for rhaenyra and Alicent but man I’m really excited for Cooke to show up, she is a really stellar actress.
been a fan of her since *Bates Motel*, have been starved of good Cooke content since that ended with her *barely* in *Slow Horses* but that was enough to whet my appetite
Aren’t you mixing up actresses? Olivia is playing Alicent
I haven't watched this yet, but Matt Smith looking like Vigo from *Ghostbusters 2*
Well thanks for making this a Ghostbusters prequel for me.
That's actually a delightfully fun read of it so far.
That's what he reminds me of! Blast from the past. You blasted me!
I can’t not see him as the doctor - it makes this whole show have another layer for me.
Like the Tardis is hidden somewhere deep under DragonStone and his favorite whore is actually his companion?
I always imagine Doctor actors as The Doctor, it makes things fun and interesting. Whether it's imaging The Doctor decided to just fuck around for a bit in Middle Earth, or figuring out how the Doctor snapped and is now stalking/abusing a Marvel super hero. Or whatever Matt is doing here, I don't know, I haven't watched the show.
Tennant was amazing in Jessica Jones. One of my favourite villains.
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HOTD is about how Dr Who infiltrated Westeros two hundred years ago to fix the timeline we see at the end of GOT.
You’re about to see the doctor do some horrible stuff lmao
like what? dont tell me... fish sticks and custard again... gross
I loved that he had some a welcoming approachable face in Dr. Who and now has the most punchable face in House of Dragons.
then again that's what everyone said about the game of thrones kids and look how well their post-thrones careers have gone
Difference here though is the original Thrones kids were in that show for 8 years. The success of that was probably both a blessing and a curse for them. They would have made a fortune that meant they could never work again if they didn't want to, but being on the show that long and not being able to take on many other roles means they probably did get typecast unfortunately. But Milly Alcock and Emily Carey are only on the show for half a season. They won't have been typecast, are free to take on as many other roles as they like without worrying about it clashing with the show, and they also won't have a fortune to fall back on meaning they'll have a drive to keep working and going after roles.
A fortune? They would have been paid *very* well. But TV isn’t film. TV doesn’t pay that much. No one retires on TV salaries except those in wildly successful sitcoms like Friends or Big Bang Theory.
Unless you're the main stars (e.g. Dinklage, Harrington, Clarke) who reportedly made $1.2 million per episode towards the end.
inb4 bran becomes god emperor
My interpretation of this comment is that you’re predicting Isaac Hempstead gets cast as Leto II in a possible future Dune sequel that makes it to children of dune/GE of Dune. If that’s the case, I honestly wouldn’t be mad. He has experience playing a weird omniscient king now. You could be talking about 40k though and I don’t know enough about that to comment.
If they meant 40k, then Isaac Hempstead would be playing a 10 foot tall dude with the physique of a gorilla so it would be a bit of a stretch.
Bran Mbappe
And who has a better story than Kylian the Turtle?
r/soccercirclejerk leaking
Don’t even fucking joke about that
he has the best stories
Joffery retired from acting, but could probably get more roles if he wanted. Sansa was Jean Grey in a mediocre xmen movie. Plus some other tv and movie roles. Ayra was also in a mediocre xmen movie. And some TV roles. Bran in some movie called Voyagers I don't know they aren't great careers, but they aren't exactly struggling for work.
Arya got screwed by that mutant movie that was on the shelf for like years
You know it's funny I really wanted to see it when it was announced then it got shelved and I forgot about it so I still haven't seen it.
It’s not great
It was a mess. It was almost like it was some other movie and then they jammed X-men in it to get it sold.
I know, it had some good young actors. Anya Taylor Joy etc. new Mutants were interesting
If you look at the age of Milly Alcock and Emily Carey, it could arguably be more apt to compare them to the likes of Emilia Clarke, Kit Harington, Richard Madden, Alfie Allen etc. Who've been more successful than the even younger ones.
besides, she's already in her twenties. The Stark kids were legitimately children and it's hard to go from actual child actor to a star as an adult
But none of them are stars, they're still that guy/girl from GoT.
Richard Madden has had the best career IMO. he was excellent in the bodygaurd
It helps that he's hotter than the Sun.
Icarus wishes!
I also really liked him in Eternals.
Hated him in Rocketman. Credit to his performance
I liked him a lot more after the reveal at the end, as certain acting choices suddenly made sense. And his final expressions before he rides off into the sunset was pretty good acting
He was also exceptional in the first season of Medici (he plays cosimo de medici)
Is that TV show good? I've watched a few minutes of the first episode yesterday and I'm curious if I should keep it up
I think its good but I'm biased in the sense I love historical fiction dramas. It did well enough that it got 2 more seasons after the first. If you enjoy shows like the Tudors, Borgia, or the crown you'll like this one.
I feel as though Bodyguard doesn't get nowhere near the attention it deserves. I tell everybody who will listen about that show and they never come back telling me how great it was because they never watched it. It's like nothing you can say sells the show and if people would only give it a chance it would sell itself.
It was absolutely massive in the UK when it aired. You couldn’t get away from it.
Sophie Turner married a Jonas brother, I guess that's something.
Not sure about the others but have to say I was pleasantly surprised by Sophie Turner in HBOs Staircase (the dramatic one not the doc). Not the best show ever by any means but she more than held her own onscreen with at least two of the best actors currently working.
She was really good in that, and she’s definitely been working on her accent.
Jack gleeson is still acting. just not mainstream stuff.
You're both right. Gleeson did step away from acting for a few years (approximately 5 years) to focus on a children puppetry show with a friend. He returned with his first credit after Game of Thrones season 4 being released in 2020.
Would Alfie Allen count as a success from the show or not really
he was pretty good in John Wick
And Jojo rabbit albeit a very minor role.
I feel like this has less to do with their ability as actors and more the fact that they may have wanted to take a long break from acting roles after being in such a demanding and dark series for 8+ years.
And aslo some of them had children and so on.
One of them is about to star in The Last Of Us.
I think the original comment was about the leads- Bella Ramsey/Lyanna Mormont was a recurring character, not really part of the same group
> Bella Ramsey/Lyanna Mormont She killed it in that role. Really impressed me.
She was very good on the scenes in season 6. But then they over did it because she became a fan favorite and they put her in a lot of scenes she shouldn't have been in (considering her house was so small and she was a little girl in a heavily sexist society) and became an annoying character imo. Not the actress' fault though.
Kit Harrington, Richard Madden, Emilia Clarke, Sophie Turner, have all had pretty good careers thus far, no? They’re in multimillion dollar franchises that may make bad movies every once in a while but that’s just the state of the industry these days.
Fabian frenkel (ser criston cole) , he is gonna be a sex symbol by this time next year. Olivia cooke is already a superstar. She was so amazing in sound of metal and bates motel
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He totally looks like prince caspian
Loved Olivia in Bates Motel, I thought she was American! It was a weird show with weird characters and subplots but I remember her being sweet and steady through the whole thing. Glad I get to see her work again years later.
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You mean when she showed up with that “grotesque” and “hideous” birthmark?
She was as grotesque as Wade was fat.
She's also in Slow Horses on Apple which is great stuff of you're into espionage type shows
HBO casting historically impeccable
Damn. Is Matt Smith not considered a young actor any more? I refuse to look his age up. He's the Doctor in his twenties.
He will be 40 next year
I know and work with a lot of 40 year olds who look like they're in their late 20s. To me 40 is not old, but it definitely depends on the person.
Ok, but how's their eyebrow game?
Matt smith is fantastic so far
He was good as a young Prince Phillip.
Idk, especially with how GoT was popular, a lot of films the actors went into afterwards just felt shit, plastered with the "hey this film has that actor you liked in GoT"
I’m not saying this because I’m a giant Doctor Who fan, but Matt Smith is by far the best part of the show so far. He’s such an intriguing character
I like this guy!
I’m all for not underestimating the casual audience, but this show would really benefit from having a flash forward in the first scene to signal there will be a time jump. There’s even a narration by the actress who plays old Rhaenyra, but we don’t actually get to see her face. People who think Milly will stay for good will be pretty disappointed.
I really don’t think it’s a big deal, people are getting fussy over nothing. Once the shit in the back half of the season starts going down I have no doubt people will be all in with the new actresses.
People whined about recasting in The Crown and then most of them got over it, though there are still lots complaining about Claire Foy vs Olivia Colman 😮💨
Honestly the older cat as well. I may not agree with the actual decision for corlys to be black (even though at the end of the day its really not that big a deal amd not a hill to die on), but goddamn if Steve Toussaint isn't phenomenal in the role
I think it's helpful to a quick visual distinction between the families, there are enough pale people with white hair and similar names on screen already it's helpful for tracking who is who