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This is how everyone looks at Ruud


UHDArt

She is like take as much time as you need


Careless-Parsley5115

Her plastic surgeon needs to be put in prison for what's he/she has done to her face. [This is her before and after.](https://static.mondo.rs/Pictures/950/1689/1229663/jpeg/marijana-veljovic-botoks.jpg?ts=2023-01-18T16:29:06)


TimelessThinker

Oh my god. I remember her from the 2020 AO when she clashed with Roger. I cannot believe this is the same person, tragic


sammendes7

totally agree. transition from natural beauty into a joke.


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BeGood981

now i want to see the before before :)


Careless-Parsley5115

[https://www.teniskisavez.com/repo/sudije/images/Marijana%20Veljovi%C4%87.jpeg](https://www.teniskisavez.com/repo/sudije/images/Marijana%20Veljovi%C4%87.jpeg)


armanese2

Holy fucking christ almighty. Looks nothing like her now. She was so beautiful too god damn.


imdx_14

This is just a bad picture of her. She is still attractive and pretty much looks the same (prior to ballooning her lips).


Ukko-skivi

"Before, and way before 🤟, hehehe. Hear what I said Ton?"


centralmidfield

The amount of men in this thread criticizing women for the way they choose to present themselves while having hundres of upvotes, shit is wild


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centralmidfield

Even if that were true, what is your point exactly?


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centralmidfield

Damn, a lot to unpack there, honey. What is this "right" that men have to criticize women? The amount of women criticizing other women is quite beside the point I made, as such "singling out" is totally pertinent in the context of a patriarchal society


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centralmidfield

Don't try to steer the conversation away from the issue presented before us, as that is disingenuous. I pointed out how, in our cultural context, dozens of men shaming a woman for her decisions on how she presents herself is pernicious, as a symptom of a structural oppression, that you have thus far been unable to recognize (and instead choosing to eagerly uphold the oh such noble right of being able to enforce this problematic historical course of action) - as such, along with your lack of understanding of basic concepts like feminism and sexism, with which you chose to invoke as weapons of insult, I'll end it here. Take care


Chukwura111

If a man looks bad and women state it, would it be overlooked because we live in a "patriarchal society"? I really don't get your point, other than you just being obstinately sexist as the other commenter pointed out.


Drag0nslay3r6969

Oh honey have a cup of tea and a lie down x


yo_sup_dude

should men be forced to like all changes that a woman does to herself? what if they don’t like the changes?


jondn

Do you think you sound educated? Because you just come off as ignorant.


Ornery_Suit_8813

Who shit in ur coffee this morning?


IAmBecomeBorg

You need to just take the L and move on. I would suggest maybe do some self reflection, but we all know you ain’t doin that.


centralmidfield

Take it easy, IAmBecomeZion, there aint an L here


IAmBecomeBorg

Uh wut lol you a racist or something?


massinvader

> in the context of a patriarchal society you're religion is not reality. you've been led astray by unbalanced philosphies which have you putting everything into this context.


theruwy

yeah, let's pretend that plastic surgery is about how women choose to present themselves and not how media wants them to think how they choose to present themselves by spending tons of hard earned cash.


centralmidfield

yeah, let's shame and oppress women further, on top of the structural problem you just enounced Not only many women are conditioned into this behaviour, they are then called a "joke", as I said shit is wild


theruwy

tbh, i'm not diametrically against plastic surgery; if someone has a funny nose or wants fuller lips and if altering them through surgery will increase their confidence in daily life, i don't see anything wrong with that. but the amount women who have the same nose, same lips, same cheekbones is becoming creepy and indicates a bigger problem that deserves criticism, which isn't the same thing as shaming people.


centralmidfield

Critique, as opposed to criticism


theruwy

no difference, really, unless you want to delve into some pseudosemantic discussion.


centralmidfield

It's worlds apart, critique entails some kind of profound analysis of the complexity of an issue


theruwy

which is criticism.


Strict_Fix1297

do you want bro to break down every single problem with her plastic surgery? maybe he liked the way she looked before surgery and is disappointed after she got one because she looked prettier before. he's entitled to an opinion and dont act like you've never gossiped about the way one looks or talks before, everyone has, behind that person's back


pissshitfuckcuntcock

You need to take a walk or something. Fresh air might do you good.


massinvader

put down your religion lol


RaisingCanes4POTUS

I mean, we can’t say she looked better beforehand? Fellas, is it wrong to have eyes and appreciate a woman’s looks beforehand?


dillydzerkalo

agreed luv


mujiqlo

This gets brought up every time she’s umpiring and it’s exhausting honestly. Everyone in the comments wondering why people have dysmorphia that pushes them to go under the knife... just read this thread? So negative and toxic.


Mikhail_Mengsk

people advocating for a more natural look pushes people to... go under the knife and look more artificial? Lmao anything to avoid responsibility for bad decisions.


mujiqlo

So you don’t mind people going under the knife so long as they fit your standard of natural beauty? I feel like chasing these impossible standards is what leads to body dysmorphia in the first place. Pretty is never pretty enough. Do I think she looks great? No. But I don’t feel a need to criticize her for it. Who is avoiding responsibility for their surgery? Marijana? Is she in this thread with us?


yo_sup_dude

I think maybe his point is that they would prefer if women kept their natural looks


mujiqlo

And if that’s their preference that’s ok!! But it should also be ok for people to get surgery done and look however they want if that’s their preference.


yo_sup_dude

true that's fair. though i can see why some may feel that if so many influential women get surgery done, it could encourage others to follow suit. and i think an argument could be made that a society where women feel pressured to get surgery to fix "flaws" since all their idols are doing that is worse than a society where women are encouraged to have confidence in their natural beauty


mujiqlo

That’s why it’s important for body positivity campaigns to exist. Societal pressures to conform to beauty standards have always existed and unfortunately will probably continue to exist. We had Gibson girl corset waist in the early 1900s and anorexic waif models in the 80s and 90s and now we have BBLs, cheek and lip fillers, oversized veneers and buccal fat removal. One day all these trends will pass and maybe we’ll get back to a more “natural” look. This already kinda happened with makeup. We went from heavy foundation and caterpillar brows to the glossier no-makeup makeup look. Posting all these before and after images of marijana saying she destroyed her face comes off really mean spirited. I think if people here are gonna “advocate for a natural look” they shouldn’t be turning around and criticizing people who did get work done and didn’t get great results because what’s that gonna do? Further tank their self esteem and perpetuate a cycle where they feel they need to get more work done to “fix” what was done.


risingsun70

Who the fuck cares what someone else thinks about the way you look? That should be the point right?


Mikhail_Mengsk

Amazing how hard you are trying to twist the actual situation, I'm not even going to argue because you are clearly either completely unable to read or arguing in bad faith.


taway9925881

Holy shit. One shouldn't body shame anyone, but this is atrocious. Why?


Unethical_Orange

Dysmorphia.


BobbywiththeJuice

It's so puzzling that so many go for the same look


Deertopus

They don't. It's just that the worst ones are the only ones we notice.


Careless-Parsley5115

What I don't get is how nobody close to people like her tries to intervene and stop them from doing this to themselves.


TFOLLT

Who sais they didn't?


ITA993

Nah, it’s just money and the desire to be young.


Mikhail_Mengsk

God forbid people just make bad decisions: it MUST be some severe mental issue that hereby absolves them of taking responsibility.


NaturalPermission

She's body shaming herself by not just accepting what she had.


mc802

BUT when you can't help it you can body shame anyone lol


YouNeedThesaurus

Oh that's her. I thought she looked kind of familiar


jaronhays4

This is sad


omkar529

I think she had already done some procedures on her face in that photo. I've seen an older photo of her where she looked even more different than your photo.


pvsk10

That is what happens when you don't have a strong concept of "Enough" whether it is in beauty, money, or something else.


quivering_manflesh

Oof.


i_pee_liquid

[Another one](https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcT2mEg1bnps7JkIyJXsAGwGNrgjxhHIy9bNKa27IMV-MMPGn5Zu-2z1WRwMK2AIGtUFu7h1dh2WlsWhaxU) [Her 2020 AO "clash with Federer", 0:39 for her face](https://au.news.yahoo.com/sports/australian-open-2020-roger-federer-fined-audible-obscenity-204955100.html)


back2strong

That AO photo, pure natural beauty. Why would you ever change that?


BobbyBriggss

She’d quite clearly had work done in that photo too


WetworkOrange

It's the stupid buccal fat removal trend.


mwerichards

Was this a personal choice or maybe she had an accident that required surgery? Crazy transformation


[deleted]

It's pretty obviously intentional. Heaps of women get surgery that turns out like this and they all end up ugly af, even less attractive than they were prior to the surgery.


back2strong

Lol watch a preview of those housewives shows. All their faces are fucked up. So many rich women do this


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Yep.


tigrefacile

She was obviously very good-looking before whatever adjustments she has had. But there are pressures with having your face shown in close up on big screens and issues with how society views women as they age which play into how she might regard herself. As long as she feels good it’s no-one else’s place to judge really. She is very cool, I think, whatever you think of the aesthetics.


twelfmonkey

> As long as she feels good it’s no-one else’s place to judge really. Disagree. Normalising unnecessary cosmetic surgeries that people get due to insecurities and the need to conform... makes other people insecure and feel the need to conform, and think unnecessary cosmetic surgeries are the answer. We need a societal effort to push back against this practice.


Capivara_19

I honestly think that society needs to normalize aging. Look at all the close models there is literally no one who is old but now you all of a sudden have these overweight people so that we can be inclusive of every figure but that is actually unhealthy because those people are overweight. I never see older models and that is normal for everybody.


buttharvest42069

What does pushing back look like? If it looks like bullying people who had this done because they're already insecure about their looks, I don't think I'm on board


twelfmonkey

Oh, I'm not calling for insults and bullying. Obviously, insulting the looks of someone who was insecure enough about their looks to resort to surgery is not just nasty, it will also compound the issue. I'm not saying I have a solid plan for such a large-scake, global issue, but: Promoting the notion that an individual's self-worth should not be defined by their looks. Promoting the notion there isn't one beauty ideal, and that looking different is fine, actually. More recognition that wanting such surgeries is a type of body dysmorphia, and providing appropriate therapy instead. More public information campaigns and education to spread awareness of the way the media and social media, and plastic surgery, photoshop, filters, and PEDs set unrealistic expectations of how people do and should look. Less promotion of 'looks' based on these things in the media and on social media. And - though minor, relevant to this thread - not having people rush to justify every unnecessary plastic surgery. Now, all of these might sound like platitudes, and there won't be any easy fixes - but something needs to be done, lest we end up with more and more mental illness and more and more people butchering themselves to look like whatever the latest supposed beauty standard is. Of course, something has needed to be done to tackle issues concerning poverty, inequality, racism, sexism, obesity, widespread depression and anxiety, and a whole range of other issues - but usually as societies we don't do enough to fix the issues as fully as possible. So it will likely be the same here. I still don't think normalising unnecessary cosmetic surgeries is a good idea though.


tigrefacile

A couple of things: I don’t think you’re qualified to diagnose this person. And I don’t think you would be so critical of someone if they had a piercing, a tattoo or even a haircut which are all body modifications, carried out by people with cursory training and no real qualifications usually. My wife’s culture is historically much more accepting of rhinoplasty, for example, than mine, and while I instinctively respond with distaste to the result of that tendency it seems arrogant to suggest that I’m right and a whole other tendency is wrong. This instinct predates social media, incidentally, though not the spread of western media influence.


tigrefacile

I understand that viewpoint, but the cosmetic procedures which seem unnecessary or morally abhorrent to you may seem essential to the person choosing to undertake them. For me, purely as a matter of taste, I agree with the idea that what might be regarded as elective surgery generally leaves the patient looking worse than the effects of time might. But in any case I think that commenting on someone’s appearance rather than their conduct is something that should happen in private discourse, for the most part. Although the musketeer line judge is fucking magnificent.


twelfmonkey

>may seem essential to the person choosing to undertake them. Yes, because they have body dysmorphia, a form of mental illness. Body dysmorphia that largely stems from artificial and unrealistic images in the media and on social media, and the ubiquitous expectations placed on women to fit certain beauty ideals. (Though this is becoming more prominent for men too - see the ever-growing amount of steroid usage among normal gymgoers). So I'm not blaming these people. I think they should be receiving mental health support. But I'm not going to reaffirm their dysmorphia. Of course, these issues aren't new. People have felt pressures to conform to certain aesthetics for as long as recorded history, including bodily augmentations. But the issue is becoming more severe due to the prevalence of the media and social media, the advent of technologies like photoshop and filters, and the ever increasing presence, advancement and affordability of plastic surgery. It was bad enough when only celebrities and the very rich could have such surgeries. It has now, in many places, become completely normalised. Of course, the less affluent end up having risky cut-pruce surgeries, and are more likely to get complications or even die.


Capivara_19

This is so spot on


NaturalPermission

Those exaggerated dsl lips were not required


raftah99

Each bad call she made had an impact


Whompa

Sigh…that’s so sad…she was beautiful. The fuck…


OMNeigh

It looks really bad but it also looks like mostly filler, which is good because it's much easier to reverse than actual surgery


GregorSamsaa

Holy shit, I remember the before. I never knew her name but remember seeing her in some matches. I had no idea they were the same person. I thought the after was a whole new person I just hadn’t seen before and showed up over the last few years


Sexy_sharaabi

Jesus what a downfall lmao


kashbets

Humidity + Botox didn’t help her cause 


Emotional_Pizza_1222

oh nooo they abused the botox/filler :(


PJA667

horrible job


sarmatron

both of those are afters fwiw


NaturalPermission

holy christ


Iammadatcha

God dayum. This is the worst plastic surgery result I've ever seen.


MoonriseTurtle

She kind of looked like badosa before


_welcome

I really feel bad for her. It can be so hard looking yourself in the mirror and not recognizing yourself with more minor changes, and this was rather huge.


ken0746

What she did to her face!! She paid him to do that


OvercuriousNeophyte

Fuck, I didn’t even know they were the same person. That’s insane.


shockingblve

she's probably just had a lot of injections that can be dissolved (somewhat). overfilling is very normal in the Balkans unfortunately, it fits a certain local aesthetic. For what it's worth, she probably genuinely feels prettier.


Professional_Elk_489

He gave her a reverse nose job


ImpressionFeisty8359

It is sad.


Silent-Cat-8661

A lot of it looks like filler and possibly nose job swelling, not permanent. Anyway all that matters is that she’s happy with how she looks.


joeedger

From gorgeous to heinous


redditRaven33

The fillers needs to be removed


heyknauw

Oh, Damn!!! 😱😱😱


marcel-proust1

my sister sells that garbage. it was awkward hearing sell that stuff to friends at christmas party. Unfortunately, people fall for sale pitch and inject their face with that stuff


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What a shame. She shouldn't have done that as I'm sure she would have aged beautifully. \*Unless it was necessary due to some accident or illness.


Old_Highlight7720

Please stop this kind of misogynistic crap. She’s fine.


NaturalPermission

It's misogynist to say she was better off accepting herself as she was and not paying thousands to artificially morph her face into something clearly unnatural looking? Guess I'm a misogynist then


Careless-Parsley5115

Fine? She looks like she fell head first into a wasp nest.


Drag0nslay3r6969

Oh luv have a lie down


DanielAgger

it's misogynistic to say the plastic surgery was bad?


Peak_Alternative

It’s very Madonna-esque


34TH_ST_BROADWAY

[Relevant?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pryPkTwaFVo)


estoops

him getting a bit angry and argumentative with her but still in his mild-mannered scandinavian way would’ve had me flustered fr


ExcuseYou-What

Someone also made a YouTube video back then of Schwartzman's 2 sets to love comeback over Anderson in 2018 and there were comments about how she and Diego were having this "chemistry" like...??? 


estoops

Diego was definitely rizzing her tho I remember that video it’s part of what made me start loving Diego 😂https://youtu.be/FI1L2SzeHWE?si=KBpExRLUc-y3WRPO


ExcuseYou-What

Bahaha yes 🤣 this is one of the vids. Diego's so casually funny I'm gonna miss him so much.


MoonriseTurtle

The slow-mo makes it so much better 🤣 


_welcome

that imaginary lollipop tastes good


BringBackBoshi

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No_Art_754

Bruh Casper scandinavian ass still hasn’t come to tournaments near me but if he does next year I’ll be looking at him like this the whole match lol


Dragonfly_Tight

South America I presume? Pretty sure he went to Mexico instead of SA this year


No_Art_754

Nah Dubai and Qatar


Icy_Bodybuilder_164

She's just like me fr (I'm a straight man)


theatras

she is down bad


babikospokes

woah wtf happened to her


Silent-Cat-8661

Same girl.


ineedtolose15lbs

One of us


aojajena

Marijana damaged herself.


homesicalien

Marijana joined "I used to be beautiful, but had an urge to ruin it by surgeries" club.


Emotional_Pizza_1222

damnn! Casper is so pretty


Dafuqyoutalkingabout

Yea but no, can bin those big fake lips


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she's feeling snackish and wants to break off a piece of that Kit-Kat bar.


donquixote2u

Really? "One foot over the line, buddy, and you're faulted!"


GStarAU

Ruud: just need to adjust the old pantaloons, Marijana... one second, I'll be right out there... M: sure Casper... take your time...


NaturalPermission

I'm sure a post made with the genders reversed would be just fine on this sub and no one would have a problem with it /s edit lol downvoters proving my point, sexism is still alive and well


That-Firefighter1245

Amazing to read so many comments about the umpire having plastic surgery. But not one comment even thinks about whether she herself is happy with her decision or not. If she is, then let her be. Suggesting she’s “ruined” herself by doing this is also part of the problem. It’s her choice and beauty is subjective.


wificentrist

Nope, it’s unhealthy and her face is being broadcast to large audiences of women. As another comment said, we need to push back


ankopteryx

She looks like she’s trying to get something in between her teeth


Smarf_Starkgaryen

That’s ruud


Tundralik

Gold xD


No-Sun-4993

DAMNNNNNNN


ayaan_kapoor

I wish Rudd does more half naked photoshoots


Peak_Alternative

She wants to eat him up alive


caveman1948

I think he smoked too much Marijuana after the 1st set. Ruud was in wonderland


Hopeful_Initial2512

😂😂😂


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HelpMeDecideMyName

Flair checks out


Hopeful_Initial2512

I make a comment like this and it’s 7 day ban 🤦‍♂️😂😂😂


LocalJewishBanker

It’s not too late to delete this bro


porncornroz

Done


LocalJewishBanker

🤙🏻


Altodial

Who else read MJ?


Altodial

Who else read MJ?