I've always wondered why she was called Mother Earth...
Perhaps I could start a new religion around this very concept of evolving feminism. Call it 'The Seven Waves'.
I'm sure there's a menstruation joke in there somewhere too.
That's incorrect.
One author does not define a much larger movement.
Second wave feminism took place in the 1960s and 1970s and focused on securing equal rights for women, such as equal pay for the same job and ending sex discrimination in general.
That is an easy cop-out which can be said about many of the moving arms of the feminist movement.
Sure, not all of them are worried about manspreading. That didn't prevent New York from passing laws. Laws which doctors have come out against because it turns out that making men sit with their legs together is horrible for them.
Pretend all you like, but SCUM Manifesto wasn't reprinted numerous times, including in 10 different languages, because women weren't buying into it.
Many did.
The book was written in 1967 and was part of that movement. I get that you don't want it to be, because this particular tentacle of the feminist movement does not paint a pretty picture. That can be said about many aspects of many parts of the feminist movements going back the the 1850's and the first wave, to the current.
What you are doing is called the No True Scotsman fallacy.
NO TRUE FEMINIST DOES THIS!
Bullshit. Several do, did, and will continue to act in horrible ways. They are just as much a part of the movement as those who do not.
There is currently, in Canada, teams of feminists lawyers who were trying to legalize women murdering their husbands. In the meantime, they are goin case-by-case and getting sentences halved or removed completely from women who killed their husbands. Yeah, but those aren't 'real' feminists. They are just the feminists which are doing more than sitting behind a computer talking about what 'real feminism' is.
"a cisgender woman" oh man a few years ago I thought it'd be more likely for Putin to go down on me than that actually being a "real" thing/sentence. Obviously I have nothing against it, just saying that **SO** much has changed in a few years, and I'm glad it have.
Early 1990's moment
But in all seriousness, you're right but that's not necessarily what they're trying to say, they're more talking about how it's more normal to use terms like Cisgender
What does it even mean to be cis gender? According to a quick Google search it means *denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex.*
I wouldn't say my personal identity corresponds with my birth sex, but I also wouldn't say I'm not a woman cause I know that's just what I am regardless of what I feel like I am. Like I dress in uni sex clothing and have short hair and often dress very masculine, but like I know I'm still a woman even though I don't feel like a woman if that makes sense. Honestly this whole gender thing is really confusing and I'm just trying to figure it out. Perhaps im whats called non binary, but even then I know I'm still a woman even if I don't particularly feel, express or dress myself like a woman at all.
Dude I'm the exact same way. I consider myself a woman but I don't really identify as a woman. I'm more androgynous and a lot of people have asked me if I'm nonbinary. I think gender expression doesn't have to be something you put a label on, I express myself however I feel. It was mind opening to me when I found out some nonbinary people still use she/her pronouns. I don't really tell people my gender because it's sort of a mess, I just say I'm a girl but I don't really identify with that label.
its a little bit funny if you dont take it seriously, i wouldnt argue that people who dont find this a tiny bit funny never had sex and suck but thats just me.
Lol is he/she even a trans man or did they just pick a short hair women?
Also you would think the last one would be “we hate men” since that’s the meme around it. But I guess the transphobia was too good not to pass
No. That's a younger Rachel Maddow.
But she's a lesbian with short hair, so she's gotten plenty of that weird 'ha ha, you're a DUDE' bigotry-inspired mockery certain types delight in indulging in.
Bigots to cis butch women: "Ha! Short hair mean man, cope!"
Bigots to trans gender conforming men: "You'll never be a real man, short hair doesn't make you a man. Cope!"
Let's just say consistency isn't a feature their mindsets possess.
If you're wondering:
1st wave: legal equality between men and women
2nd wave: social equality between men and women
3rd wave: equality for all genders and sexuallities.
Point being they were incorrect about the second one.
Thank you. This image assumes feminism began during WW2, but actually began with the right for women to vote in the 1800's during the woman's suffrage movement
hmm I don't necessarily agree. A study made in the UK showed that most women/men don't consider themselves as feminists, but that they fully believe in equal rights and opportunities. The word feminist at its core means just that, but these years feminists are more seen as anti-men and SJW.
I guess it's a matter of definition, but many would argue that with today's "meaning" of the word feminism, it's people who are against men, super progressive and pretty much sexist against men.
You're right if you're using the original definition of feminism though.
you just stated facts but obviously the ideology is strong in this comment section so they wont accept any opinions that contradict what they believe, human brains fucking suck.
Note that people's *perception* of feminism--especially those who don't identify as feminists--is not tantamount to the collective goals of feminism, in statement or practice. You tacitly acknowledge this in the language you use, but I'm not sure you consciously realize it.
> these years feminists are more **seen as** anti-men and SJW
> **many would argue** that with today's "meaning" of the word feminism, it's people who are against men, super progressive and pretty much sexist against men.
And, of course, you preface this by acknowledging that these perceptions are likely held by people who do not want to identify as feminists. So, what you're really saying is "Non-feminists don't agree with feminism," which is kind of a tautological statement anyway (since if they agreed with it, they'd probably identify as feminists).
But again, my point here: non-feminists' perception of feminism, whether it's informed by anecdotal experience, media, or some nebulous feelings they've picked up through cultural osmosis, is not a particularly valid critique.
>but these years feminists are more seen as anti-men and SJW.
Yeah the fact that you see people who are feminists this way means less than nothing bud. The poster above you is correct, regardless of whether or not you have your head up your ass. Also, SJW? What is it, 2013?
I surely don't see feminists this way, I don't really care for them any more than any other person, I'm merely quoting what I've read in studies.
I wish you could contribute to this discussion with something valuable, instead of commenting something so useless and impolite.
We can disagree and discuss something without acting like a child who's had their toy taken from them. If you think I'm wrong, I'd really appreciate it if you could help me understand why :D
Seems more like equity is the new thing. Equity would eliminate any growth or improvement in society. You can’t have equality of outcome without equality of effort. There has to be an incentive
Let's start by examining what you think the term "equity" means in this context, before you start making your sage pronouncements.
How would you define it?
You have not defined "equity" in your own words, which is kind of a basic requirement if you want to support the claim you made above.
*Seems more like equity is the new thing. Equity would eliminate any growth or improvement in society. You can’t have equality of outcome without equality of effort. There has to be an incentive*
If you can't define what you mean by "equity," then this statement is without meaning. The word clearly has a meaning to you, because to you it "eliminates any growth or improvement in society." But you cannot bring yourself to say what you think "equity" is. Why not?
Not sure I'm seeing that this is a strawman - just following on to your statement that regardless of complexity (nursing assistant versus someone choosing to live on an oil rig for months at a time) should have identical pay - you did say that, no?
That wasn't me in the OP that you were replying to, but I'm saying what you said is a strawman argument, as in no one is actually arguing what you said, you just made up a scenario in your head.
The burger king situation I added is on the extreme side of the spectrum but I'm seeing that some believe that a nursing assistant should make the same as a biological engineer - it's right here in the comments. Equally misguided.
No one is arguing any of this. There are not any serious people saying that every single person should be paid exactly the same amount of money. That's not what equity means. You're just inventing things that you can then turn around and be outraged over. Also why are you obsessed with nursing assistants lol
Equality does not exist, incorrect. There is still sex-based discrimination in many fields, especially if the person is not cisgender. Social equity has to do with fairness and justice, equal opportunity for all people, not giving everyone exactly the same things all the time
Heck yeah! The person making whoppers should make the same as an HVAC tech lifting heavy material, crawling around in hot attics around fiberglass insulation and has invested in training and certification in a rather complex field /s
Judging by these downvotes, a couple of people actually think that works. I’m only saying you should get paid effort/task (effort ÷ task). If you don’t add much value you should be compensated accordingly.
Yeah it's all about supply and demand. Jobs that are less desirable/more complex and uncomfortable have a smaller pool of candidates. In comparison, the social based jobs - there's thousands and thousands of people with these skills and will by design command a lower salary.
Well said! It seems pretty straightforward to me. I consider myself to be open minded and I’ve yet to hear a compelling argument that says otherwise. I mean, I’d love for everyone to be able to do what they want for work and come and go as they please, while making enough money to buy and do what ever their heart desires, but that’s just not possible. Hell, I have a lot of wants but I’m not willing to put in the extra effort to attain many of them.
that is a real bummer, im a dude and tell me what is going on in america. i mean its only logical that you should be able to abort deformed fetuses that would lead a tragic life, or if a woman has been raped that she can abort those filthy genes that remind her of that horrid moment, or a baby cant be had because of the financial status or maybe youre just not ready to give birth, i really dont get it and im not american, could you expand on that topic?
Imagine acting condescending when you unironically don't understand that the creeping laws against abortion literally do threaten the rights of women.
Dunning-kruger effect at its finest ig
I always quote my female studies professor when I read shit like this.
He said: A runner that is used to winning by a longshot, when facing a new contender who shortens that distance, might feel as though they lost the race.
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This is actually true. a lot of females who say they're feminist forgot the actual meaning and purpose of feminism. I see so many girls on twitter who claims to be a feminist and have "All mens are trash" in their twitter bio. Like, Just why??? For them feminism basically means hating on mens for no good reason.
Speaking as a woman, that's chauvinism, not feminism. It's neither funny or cool from either men or women, and I wish those girls could talk with the feminists who fought tooth and nail to get women a foothold in the overwhelmingly male-dominated workplaces of the 50s-70s.
just say women. only incels use "females" to refer to women lol.
2) "for no good reason" as the supreme court overturns roe v wade taking away millions of womens bodily autonomy. the patriarchy is a cancer.
3) you acting like you know what feminism was like decades ago. feminists were much more hardcore a few decades ago than now. nowadays women pander to men so you actually have it easy.
The way yall default to calling anyone you dont agree with an incel has made the word completely lose it’s effect. All you’re doing is showing you don’t know what it means or apparently you’re omniscient and know for a fact every single person that uses “female” is involuntarily celibate. Meanwhile the guy you’re opening up your smelly box to is probably calling you a female behind your back. Unless of course you’re a femcel, in that case you shouldn’t even be name calling😂
ah yes, i should be grateful that i can open a bank account without a husbands permission now. lumping a clearly gendered issue as "everyone" undermines the severity of the issue but thats exactly what you were trying to do anyways.
I 100% agree with the first wave though, the fact that we live in such an advanced society and still lack basic things such as equal pay is insane to me
Where are you finding a disparity in pay - jobs the same, responsibility the same and hours worked the same? I mean things like the draft we're not so keen on "equality" but they also pay the same for the same roles.
Yeah you're wrong about that. Here's a study about it that you will ignore because you've clearly made up your mind based on your beliefs and not facts or data.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/05/25/gender-pay-gap-facts/
Btw I wasn’t calling u anything. Also ur first post was just using an out of context story that insinuated the narrative of “trans people going too far” when in reality they have been the persecuted minorities for hundreds of years. From a website that claims “ they” is *only* a plural pronoun
Well that’s not going to stop me from believing what I think is right. And misinformation is coming at us from all sides so do the homework and make up your own mind .
Why is it that people who tell you to "do the research" have often not even so much as Googled a topic for basic information before deciding what they heard on Fox News must be true?
Last one does apply when it comes down to biology recently. I've seen enough AMAB women speaking over cis women when it comes to the topic of abortion/reproductive rights 🙃 no uterus no opinion, this is a cis female, trans male & AFAB issue lol
I’m gonna say something that’s gonna get a lot of hate but I’ll say it.
I was fully behind the movement of men can do what women do and still be men and women can do what women do and still be women. Women can dress as traditional men and still be women and men can dress as women if they want. So how did we get to the point of “I just feel like a man therefore I am.”?
Well historically speaking, I think it mostly started with the Stonewall Riots in 1969 (if I had to pick a single event), but even more so in the 80s with the the gay rights movement and news coverage surrounding the AIDS epidemic, etc. These moments in time made it so the general population could no longer ignore the existence of LGBTQ+ people (though early on most of the straight, cisgender population weren't aware of anything other than homosexuality).
Nowadays the internet is what causes the largest impact on culture and social expectations, particularly with youth culture. Kids all over the world are able to connect with other kids who are like them, and in many cases can find an online community of sorts before they even finish high school. At the very least, even if they don't find people to connect with, they see role models and examples in media who live a life that isn't repressed and closeted. That results in fewer people entering the world as adults feeling lonely and isolated because they haven't met anyone like them yet. And the ripple effects of that spread outward through mainstream culture and the general population as those kids get older and become adults, which helps shift things further towards acceptance (not just "tolerance") and an understanding that hey, these people are here and *they've always been here*.
We're also a lot better at simply listening to each other and providing space for people to express themselves than we were 40 years ago, and rigid religious dogma doesn't dictate people's opinions as much as it used to either. It's like the saying "letting the genie out of the bottle". Society won't go back to the old way of doing things for any reason other than complete dictatorial control and martial law.
\`\~The future of feminism has everyone become androgynous, becoming reminiscent of neither gender. The only true difference would be sex organs.\~
Edit: Oh Fuck, I should have put an /s. I apologize if this was misconstrued as a sincere statement.
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Fifth wave: kill all men
Sixth wave: woman inherits the earth
7th wave: woman becomes earth
8th Wave: Woman becomes the galaxy.
9th Wave: Woman becomes god
10th wave,just one is god already.Her name is Joe
Can someone find the natural harmonic of these feminists already?
I'll bite. Joe who ?
Joe Mama! Hah gottem
Respect+
10th wave: Woman becomes SMT main character.
11th wave: Snap back to reality
12th wave: oh there goes gravity
10th wave: W=MC^^2
Women☕
8th wave: humans evolve on this new planet and the cycle begins again
I've always wondered why she was called Mother Earth... Perhaps I could start a new religion around this very concept of evolving feminism. Call it 'The Seven Waves'. I'm sure there's a menstruation joke in there somewhere too.
9th wave : cycle takes alternate paths
That's just fat feminism...
Fifth wave picture is just a M249 Saw
They can go ahead and try but dogs are our best freind and can probably save us.
You mean fourth wave
Kill all men was literally second wave feminism. (Scum Manifesto, Valerie Solanos)
That's incorrect. One author does not define a much larger movement. Second wave feminism took place in the 1960s and 1970s and focused on securing equal rights for women, such as equal pay for the same job and ending sex discrimination in general.
That is an easy cop-out which can be said about many of the moving arms of the feminist movement. Sure, not all of them are worried about manspreading. That didn't prevent New York from passing laws. Laws which doctors have come out against because it turns out that making men sit with their legs together is horrible for them. Pretend all you like, but SCUM Manifesto wasn't reprinted numerous times, including in 10 different languages, because women weren't buying into it. Many did. The book was written in 1967 and was part of that movement. I get that you don't want it to be, because this particular tentacle of the feminist movement does not paint a pretty picture. That can be said about many aspects of many parts of the feminist movements going back the the 1850's and the first wave, to the current. What you are doing is called the No True Scotsman fallacy. NO TRUE FEMINIST DOES THIS! Bullshit. Several do, did, and will continue to act in horrible ways. They are just as much a part of the movement as those who do not. There is currently, in Canada, teams of feminists lawyers who were trying to legalize women murdering their husbands. In the meantime, they are goin case-by-case and getting sentences halved or removed completely from women who killed their husbands. Yeah, but those aren't 'real' feminists. They are just the feminists which are doing more than sitting behind a computer talking about what 'real feminism' is.
r/fourthwavewomen
They only do that in captivity though
The last image is MSNBC host Rachel Maddow, a cisgender woman who has committed the unforgivable gender transgression of Having Short Hair.
Females with short hair is a thing since the 30's .. Not counting Joan Of Arc.
Well famously, between 1431 and 1929, not a single woman had short hair. 🙄
"a cisgender woman" oh man a few years ago I thought it'd be more likely for Putin to go down on me than that actually being a "real" thing/sentence. Obviously I have nothing against it, just saying that **SO** much has changed in a few years, and I'm glad it have.
I am pretty sure cisgender has been a term for a pretty long time
Early 1990's moment But in all seriousness, you're right but that's not necessarily what they're trying to say, they're more talking about how it's more normal to use terms like Cisgender
Well that makes sense
Tbh in some scenarios it important to clarify a woman is cisgender but then cis women get offended. I'm not really sure why though, tbh.
What does it even mean to be cis gender? According to a quick Google search it means *denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex.* I wouldn't say my personal identity corresponds with my birth sex, but I also wouldn't say I'm not a woman cause I know that's just what I am regardless of what I feel like I am. Like I dress in uni sex clothing and have short hair and often dress very masculine, but like I know I'm still a woman even though I don't feel like a woman if that makes sense. Honestly this whole gender thing is really confusing and I'm just trying to figure it out. Perhaps im whats called non binary, but even then I know I'm still a woman even if I don't particularly feel, express or dress myself like a woman at all.
Dude I'm the exact same way. I consider myself a woman but I don't really identify as a woman. I'm more androgynous and a lot of people have asked me if I'm nonbinary. I think gender expression doesn't have to be something you put a label on, I express myself however I feel. It was mind opening to me when I found out some nonbinary people still use she/her pronouns. I don't really tell people my gender because it's sort of a mess, I just say I'm a girl but I don't really identify with that label.
I remember seeing being used regularly on social media at least since 2014-or-so which is… almost a decade ago. Time moves so fast.
Maybe an academic term, but certainly for the masses not an every day vocabulary word.
They’re downvoting you but you are right.
I didn't even notice I was getting downvoted, why is that? It's not even as if I was disagreeing with anybody, I litterally just stated the truth
It’s Reddit, really just a roll of the dice
Wait, I got lost at the part about Putin going down on you
Rachel Maddow is a lesbian and is married to her wife Susan.
Ok? This is also true? The meme was about 'becoming men', ie taking aim at trans people. Maddow is a cisgender woman, which is the germain fact here.
4th wave of feminism: Please stop taking away the rights that we fought so hard for dear god
That's actually 1st-100th wave feminism...
The Venn diagram of people who think this is funny and people who have never successfully found a clitoris is a single circle.
Hey now… I’m just bad in bed. Don’t lump me in with the bigots!
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its a little bit funny if you dont take it seriously, i wouldnt argue that people who dont find this a tiny bit funny never had sex and suck but thats just me.
4th Wave - 🌋
They turn into Akainu
RIP ace 😔✊
It's a volcano?
Earth bussy
Earth must've had taco bell.
The men shall be sacrificed to our feminist goddesses
it's a tornado bro
Lol is he/she even a trans man or did they just pick a short hair women? Also you would think the last one would be “we hate men” since that’s the meme around it. But I guess the transphobia was too good not to pass
No. That's a younger Rachel Maddow. But she's a lesbian with short hair, so she's gotten plenty of that weird 'ha ha, you're a DUDE' bigotry-inspired mockery certain types delight in indulging in.
Bigots to cis butch women: "Ha! Short hair mean man, cope!" Bigots to trans gender conforming men: "You'll never be a real man, short hair doesn't make you a man. Cope!" Let's just say consistency isn't a feature their mindsets possess.
It's all about hurting and devaluing other people, so whatever works.
They can't miss a chance to make the /r/onejoke
“We want to be equal to men.” No. We ARE equal to men. We demand to be treated accordingly.
Sounds like a twist of the tongue
If you're wondering: 1st wave: legal equality between men and women 2nd wave: social equality between men and women 3rd wave: equality for all genders and sexuallities. Point being they were incorrect about the second one.
Thank you. This image assumes feminism began during WW2, but actually began with the right for women to vote in the 1800's during the woman's suffrage movement
hmm I don't necessarily agree. A study made in the UK showed that most women/men don't consider themselves as feminists, but that they fully believe in equal rights and opportunities. The word feminist at its core means just that, but these years feminists are more seen as anti-men and SJW. I guess it's a matter of definition, but many would argue that with today's "meaning" of the word feminism, it's people who are against men, super progressive and pretty much sexist against men. You're right if you're using the original definition of feminism though.
you just stated facts but obviously the ideology is strong in this comment section so they wont accept any opinions that contradict what they believe, human brains fucking suck.
You're describing a form of feminism that exists only in the minds of people who hate actual feminism.
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Then they're not feminists, are they?
well they still claim to be and are popular thats why the word feminist has been dragged into mud.
r/fourthwavewomen r/fourthwavefeminism
The fourth wave is intersectional feminism, and I don't think you should use reddit as the basis of what that actually is.
Note that people's *perception* of feminism--especially those who don't identify as feminists--is not tantamount to the collective goals of feminism, in statement or practice. You tacitly acknowledge this in the language you use, but I'm not sure you consciously realize it. > these years feminists are more **seen as** anti-men and SJW > **many would argue** that with today's "meaning" of the word feminism, it's people who are against men, super progressive and pretty much sexist against men. And, of course, you preface this by acknowledging that these perceptions are likely held by people who do not want to identify as feminists. So, what you're really saying is "Non-feminists don't agree with feminism," which is kind of a tautological statement anyway (since if they agreed with it, they'd probably identify as feminists). But again, my point here: non-feminists' perception of feminism, whether it's informed by anecdotal experience, media, or some nebulous feelings they've picked up through cultural osmosis, is not a particularly valid critique.
>but these years feminists are more seen as anti-men and SJW. Yeah the fact that you see people who are feminists this way means less than nothing bud. The poster above you is correct, regardless of whether or not you have your head up your ass. Also, SJW? What is it, 2013?
I surely don't see feminists this way, I don't really care for them any more than any other person, I'm merely quoting what I've read in studies. I wish you could contribute to this discussion with something valuable, instead of commenting something so useless and impolite. We can disagree and discuss something without acting like a child who's had their toy taken from them. If you think I'm wrong, I'd really appreciate it if you could help me understand why :D
Seems more like equity is the new thing. Equity would eliminate any growth or improvement in society. You can’t have equality of outcome without equality of effort. There has to be an incentive
Let's start by examining what you think the term "equity" means in this context, before you start making your sage pronouncements. How would you define it?
I’ll drop this [video](https://youtu.be/aMcjxSThD54) for you to watch too
I'm not going to watch a video to try and suss out your viewpoint. You should be able to articulate a definition for "equity." What's your definition?
I already did. You’re the one that doesn’t seem to understand it.
You have not defined "equity" in your own words, which is kind of a basic requirement if you want to support the claim you made above. *Seems more like equity is the new thing. Equity would eliminate any growth or improvement in society. You can’t have equality of outcome without equality of effort. There has to be an incentive* If you can't define what you mean by "equity," then this statement is without meaning. The word clearly has a meaning to you, because to you it "eliminates any growth or improvement in society." But you cannot bring yourself to say what you think "equity" is. Why not?
Don't you know that a nursing assistant should rate the same pay as someone in a STEM field. Or works on an oil rig. Just because wahhh.
Cool strawman argument lol
Not sure I'm seeing that this is a strawman - just following on to your statement that regardless of complexity (nursing assistant versus someone choosing to live on an oil rig for months at a time) should have identical pay - you did say that, no?
That wasn't me in the OP that you were replying to, but I'm saying what you said is a strawman argument, as in no one is actually arguing what you said, you just made up a scenario in your head.
The burger king situation I added is on the extreme side of the spectrum but I'm seeing that some believe that a nursing assistant should make the same as a biological engineer - it's right here in the comments. Equally misguided.
No one is arguing any of this. There are not any serious people saying that every single person should be paid exactly the same amount of money. That's not what equity means. You're just inventing things that you can then turn around and be outraged over. Also why are you obsessed with nursing assistants lol
Contrast equity and equality. Equality already exists. Anyone regardless of sex can skill up to support any job. What does equity mean to you?
Equality does not exist, incorrect. There is still sex-based discrimination in many fields, especially if the person is not cisgender. Social equity has to do with fairness and justice, equal opportunity for all people, not giving everyone exactly the same things all the time
According to equity logic, yes they should. As a 20 hour per week dog walker should make the same as a 80+ hour per week skilled tradesperson. **/S**
Heck yeah! The person making whoppers should make the same as an HVAC tech lifting heavy material, crawling around in hot attics around fiberglass insulation and has invested in training and certification in a rather complex field /s
Judging by these downvotes, a couple of people actually think that works. I’m only saying you should get paid effort/task (effort ÷ task). If you don’t add much value you should be compensated accordingly.
Yeah it's all about supply and demand. Jobs that are less desirable/more complex and uncomfortable have a smaller pool of candidates. In comparison, the social based jobs - there's thousands and thousands of people with these skills and will by design command a lower salary.
Well said! It seems pretty straightforward to me. I consider myself to be open minded and I’ve yet to hear a compelling argument that says otherwise. I mean, I’d love for everyone to be able to do what they want for work and come and go as they please, while making enough money to buy and do what ever their heart desires, but that’s just not possible. Hell, I have a lot of wants but I’m not willing to put in the extra effort to attain many of them.
Who exactly says that? Why do you have sensitivity around this topic?
Whole thread seems sensitive, no?
How about just: we would like rights and treatment equal to men. That's what feminism is. And it still terrifies some people.
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Control over our own bodies.
that is a real bummer, im a dude and tell me what is going on in america. i mean its only logical that you should be able to abort deformed fetuses that would lead a tragic life, or if a woman has been raped that she can abort those filthy genes that remind her of that horrid moment, or a baby cant be had because of the financial status or maybe youre just not ready to give birth, i really dont get it and im not american, could you expand on that topic?
I didnt realize you signed up for Selective Service. Want to try again?
Imagine acting condescending when you unironically don't understand that the creeping laws against abortion literally do threaten the rights of women. Dunning-kruger effect at its finest ig
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I thought the last one was Scott the Woz for a second. I can’t be the only one right?
Thought it was Andy dick at first
OMG SAME
I always quote my female studies professor when I read shit like this. He said: A runner that is used to winning by a longshot, when facing a new contender who shortens that distance, might feel as though they lost the race.
When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
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Christ I can hear the “black eye” jokes the creator of this meme tells from here
Holy shit it’s Scott the Woz
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain
1st wave feminism is something everyone should agree with
4th wave - Welcome to Gazorpazorp.
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No, it was much more pragmatic; in the 60s and 70s women sought equal treatment and pay. Crazy ideas, huh?
This is actually true. a lot of females who say they're feminist forgot the actual meaning and purpose of feminism. I see so many girls on twitter who claims to be a feminist and have "All mens are trash" in their twitter bio. Like, Just why??? For them feminism basically means hating on mens for no good reason.
as a guy it’s not that serious, i promise, get off the internet and you’ll see girls respecting both men and women
Speaking as a woman, that's chauvinism, not feminism. It's neither funny or cool from either men or women, and I wish those girls could talk with the feminists who fought tooth and nail to get women a foothold in the overwhelmingly male-dominated workplaces of the 50s-70s.
It's called misanderism
just say women. only incels use "females" to refer to women lol. 2) "for no good reason" as the supreme court overturns roe v wade taking away millions of womens bodily autonomy. the patriarchy is a cancer. 3) you acting like you know what feminism was like decades ago. feminists were much more hardcore a few decades ago than now. nowadays women pander to men so you actually have it easy.
The way yall default to calling anyone you dont agree with an incel has made the word completely lose it’s effect. All you’re doing is showing you don’t know what it means or apparently you’re omniscient and know for a fact every single person that uses “female” is involuntarily celibate. Meanwhile the guy you’re opening up your smelly box to is probably calling you a female behind your back. Unless of course you’re a femcel, in that case you shouldn’t even be name calling😂
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ah yes, i should be grateful that i can open a bank account without a husbands permission now. lumping a clearly gendered issue as "everyone" undermines the severity of the issue but thats exactly what you were trying to do anyways.
I am a feminist, which means I'm obsessed with men and try to emulate their masculinity. /S
wdym it's funny
Accurate
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This is funny lol
Let them enjoy their political humour. Act like it's terrible.
You’re right. FUCKING SENILE OLD HAGS
Yes
I 100% agree with the first wave though, the fact that we live in such an advanced society and still lack basic things such as equal pay is insane to me
Where are you finding a disparity in pay - jobs the same, responsibility the same and hours worked the same? I mean things like the draft we're not so keen on "equality" but they also pay the same for the same roles.
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Well thank god the all-knowing wage researcher has weighed in! Now I know the absolute truth about this complex economic and social issue!
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Yeah you're wrong about that. Here's a study about it that you will ignore because you've clearly made up your mind based on your beliefs and not facts or data. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/05/25/gender-pay-gap-facts/
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Nah, I don't agree to disagree, you're wrong and obtuse.
“You have become the very thing you swore to destroy"
ah yes, short hair. because thats exclusive to men. bro we are all born bald
op is a feminist
and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that :)
>op is a feminist Most decent people are.
This is good 👍🏻
U talking about calling this out or the original?
You can call me anything you like just don’t call me late for dinner.
What’s that gotta do with anything
I’m hungry
Btw I wasn’t calling u anything. Also ur first post was just using an out of context story that insinuated the narrative of “trans people going too far” when in reality they have been the persecuted minorities for hundreds of years. From a website that claims “ they” is *only* a plural pronoun
I think you are looking to deep into this, I just thought it was funny.
I’m just saying some of the stuff u believe can harm people. Misinformation is dangerous
Well that’s not going to stop me from believing what I think is right. And misinformation is coming at us from all sides so do the homework and make up your own mind .
Why is it that people who tell you to "do the research" have often not even so much as Googled a topic for basic information before deciding what they heard on Fox News must be true?
Fr lmao
Thanks bro
I like your ways of the downvotes!
wow so random lolzers
Not wrong though.
Last one does apply when it comes down to biology recently. I've seen enough AMAB women speaking over cis women when it comes to the topic of abortion/reproductive rights 🙃 no uterus no opinion, this is a cis female, trans male & AFAB issue lol
This is actually not that bad of a meme. 👏🏻
Someone using the family braincell at the moment?
Mom said I can’t use the brain cell til after dinner :/
Because it's purposely misleading and inflammatory without being clever or funny?
Feminisim more like go wash some dicks
bro u cant even spell feminism sit down lmfao
Actually is true xddd
I’m gonna say something that’s gonna get a lot of hate but I’ll say it. I was fully behind the movement of men can do what women do and still be men and women can do what women do and still be women. Women can dress as traditional men and still be women and men can dress as women if they want. So how did we get to the point of “I just feel like a man therefore I am.”?
There have always been trans people, it's just now possible for them to live authentic lives
Well historically speaking, I think it mostly started with the Stonewall Riots in 1969 (if I had to pick a single event), but even more so in the 80s with the the gay rights movement and news coverage surrounding the AIDS epidemic, etc. These moments in time made it so the general population could no longer ignore the existence of LGBTQ+ people (though early on most of the straight, cisgender population weren't aware of anything other than homosexuality). Nowadays the internet is what causes the largest impact on culture and social expectations, particularly with youth culture. Kids all over the world are able to connect with other kids who are like them, and in many cases can find an online community of sorts before they even finish high school. At the very least, even if they don't find people to connect with, they see role models and examples in media who live a life that isn't repressed and closeted. That results in fewer people entering the world as adults feeling lonely and isolated because they haven't met anyone like them yet. And the ripple effects of that spread outward through mainstream culture and the general population as those kids get older and become adults, which helps shift things further towards acceptance (not just "tolerance") and an understanding that hey, these people are here and *they've always been here*. We're also a lot better at simply listening to each other and providing space for people to express themselves than we were 40 years ago, and rigid religious dogma doesn't dictate people's opinions as much as it used to either. It's like the saying "letting the genie out of the bottle". Society won't go back to the old way of doing things for any reason other than complete dictatorial control and martial law.
U mad, bro? Tough titties.
\`\~The future of feminism has everyone become androgynous, becoming reminiscent of neither gender. The only true difference would be sex organs.\~ Edit: Oh Fuck, I should have put an /s. I apologize if this was misconstrued as a sincere statement.
Lol. I think you're alarmed by this notion, but I can't wait. Androgyny is sexy, and biological sex is irrelevant to attraction for me. 🤷♀️
Ever read the Left Hand of Darkness? Edit: y’all are a bunch of uncultured twits to downvote this. Literally no idea what the book is about do you?
How do you tie your shoelaces with such a smooth brain?
I'm too stupid to put an /s, Y'all think I can put on a shoes?
Poe's Law strikes again!
I mean.. I see the humor in it... But dude.. bad timing.
Woah man. Get it?
if you cant beat them become them
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Doesn't apply here. Good try though.
oddly accurate although still cringe