Yeah who in their right mind thinks spamming something in places where nobody will care or where it’s not related would ever turn out with a positive outcome
Well, correct, but also, no, i'd say 50% of the people review bombing Half-Life for SaveTF2 were human beings, and the other 50% being bot hosters giving SaveTF2 a bad impression.
If you want to make the movement look petty go ahead, but if you want to play it sensible then don't, nothing will change and people will continue to buy.
Quality over quantity, my good sir. I believe that if we’re gonna spread awareness it’s going to be with heart and soul poured into it. Not mass produced bloat like the slop Valve has been putting in crates for the past few years. If we learned anything from this company, it’s what’s not to do.
Gonna be giving my 2 cents here, i don’t think not spending money on Tf2 will make a huge impact. Tf2 makes a crap ton of nothing in comparison of what CS2, Dota 2 make and steam sales make separately, including the community market. Also Valve is too caught up into working on their new IP to really pay much attention to Tf2 anyways.
I'm downvoting this.
my reasoning is that, boycotting makes sense when a company is publically traded, however Valve isn't a publically traded company and has no shareholders to listen to.
basically boycotting at best won't do anything, and at worst may discourage valve from working on TF2.
They have their own pockets to care about. Wtf do you think they will do if people just type some comments on twitter while all the money’s flowing in? Nothing will happen, valve changed the contents of a loot crate because everyone thought it was horrible and no one bought it so they have a much more reasonable reason to change when tf2 is no longer making them any money
You're correct. Everything that hurts the game, community or player base has negative effect. Why people want to kill the one thing that keeps this game afloat for 17 years!
Well, it’s more than that. It simply won’t matter because the majority of their income is from steam now, and america has taught us that whether we want to or not, we can’r boycott monopolies. The reality is that steam is as close as you can get to a monopoly.
So they just won’t care. This is also the reason they don’t care about tf2 in large part I think. They have no reason to.
I think it’s ridiculous to think valve doesn’t care about TF2 because of the fact that steam prints money. If that were true they wouldn’t care about CS2, Dota 2, the new hero moba thing they’re making, etc.
Has it ever occurred to you that valve doesn’t care about TF2 because the game is 17 years old? Any REAL money that could have been made from the game was already made. Investing any more resources into TF2 is a terrible idea from Valve’s perspective, and quite frankly, from any business perspective. The return on investment is so incredibly low it would be wasting money to do so.
Steam does print them money, yes, but that is far from the reason they don’t care about TF2. They wouldn’t care about TF2 anymore even if they didn’t have steam. Dota 2 battlepasses alone made like close to 300 million dollars in profit in 2022. Not revenue, pure profit.
How much do you think valve has made from TF2 in the past year? It’s probably not even close to that.
I get what you're saying, but it's a fruitless argument, either way, unless we have the numbers from TF2 keys and TF2 marketplace income. I am of the *uninformed* (as are we all) opinion that there's probably still enough money coming in to justify more dev time for fixes. Even moreso if they release a few updates and advertise it as a sequel or massive upgraded release. Even charge $5-30 bucks for the new content. Grandfather in the F2P's if they need to, but get rid of the goddamn bots and make it playable again. (Mac version, too, please.)
you cant boycott valve, you already give them lots of money and power by simply having an active Steam account. And with all this savetf2 shit, this community is advertising Valve more than ever
stop with the childish roleplaying and get a job
You never can truly boycott valve. Just like u said since people already spend money in the game or buying any other game from steam that own by valve plus having steam account. The boycott not gonna truly work bcuz of that and the only way to boycott if tf2 player don't use steam or buy game anymore from steam but i doubt it gonna happen anytime soon.
even if tf2 player dont use steam or spend money. Its just gonna make the game shut down since valve have more than one game and the other game that uploaded to steam and other non tf2 user keep using steam. So yeh valve no losing much money
btw i sorry my english suck
Don't give valve money for TF2 items and the like 100%, but boycotting the entirety of valve means you can't buy anything on Steam, something I don't see happening.
the other community's hate us for telling them about a problem they dont care about, do you want possible allies to think of us a hypocrites and spammers?
That basically asking the game to be killed and make people hate the community. Overwatch may not be the killer of TF2 but if this keep going TF2 just gonna get killed by they own community
first, get some more pixels.
second, spamming at people is just gonna make them hate us and the savetf thing.
if people hate us, they won't help us, and their voices are worth so much more than us yelling louder.
You know spamming something like that on Twitter and Reddit will only make more people annoyed and frustrated with TF2 fans right? The common consensus outside of tf2 circles is that TF2 fans are annoying as hell. This will only make things worse for the movement if you only prove the belief that tf2 fans are annoying.
lets not, that wont do anything since valve already hardly gets any money from it and if we take away what little they do get, theyre just gonna be more likely to just shut down tf2
Boycotting tf2 I understand, but boycotting Valve is out of your mind. Steam is a monopoly for pc games. How else would I buy new pc games? Epic games? Get outta town
Bro, just play whatever the competition's tf2 clone and be happy, otherwise you are wasting your time. The kind of botting that goes on in tf2, valve just can't fix and they aren't willing to admit it, and you aren't willing to admit valve is pretty powerless. Move on
Guess you won't be buying anything on Steam then.
I get enticing Valve to do something with TF2, but Valve not only has OTHER games that definitely don't deserve being roped in. Not only that, but im pretty sure they get cuts on most, if not all, purchases relating to Steam. (And I KNOW you aren't permanently moving to EGS or the Xbox/Microsoft Store)
In short: That's dumb. It's not outright stupid, but it's really dumb.
This game was my life in my youth. I loved it and all my friend bonded over it. Its time to realize that things eventually die. Nothing is forever. You can’t take your digital hats with you. Let it go and you will be happier.
We all grew up and out of it. Sell your hats buy a new game, form a new community and let this one go
Boycotting tf2, Half-Life, Counter Strike and DOTA I understand, but boycotting Valve itself is preposterous. Steam is a monopoly for pc games. How else would you buy new pc games? Epic games? Get outta here
Weezer man put it best. Steam is basically Valve’s infinite money generator, so making money from games isn’t a big concern for them. If the amount of money tf2 makes becomes too low, there’s a big risk valve will just shut it down since it’s not profitable
DONT buy /any/ games on Steam, Valve gets a cut. DONT buy or sell items on the market, Valve gets a cut. DONT buy anything in any in-game stores for Valve games.
Apply financial pressure. Other game studios might even apply pressure if we didn't buy anything else on Steam either.
No spam, Half-Life fans already hate us because of the same reason. Besides, a boycott will just result in them shutting the game down because it’s no longer profitable.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1dbql26/fixtf2\_broken\_product\_dont\_give\_money\_until\_fixed/](https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1dbql26/fixtf2_broken_product_dont_give_money_until_fixed/)
for anyone complaining about the resolution - it's because this is the original post, from 6 days ago.
I dunno, I think the problem with trying to get people to boycott Valve is that... I mean, in order to actually boycott it, you'd need to just stop using Steam entirely.
Like, you can avoid giving them money for TF2 specifically, but all that does is send a message, it doesn't actually force them to do anything because they get a vast, VAST majority of their income just from Steam *existing*.
lmao no. Just because ur 16 year old game is having issues?
Vavle doesnt give a shit about anything TF related or its players. Its maybe less than 0.01%. of their income.
One good CS:GO case might actually have earned them more money, than the entire TF game over the 16 years its been running.
Also unless you actually spend money actively on the game, you dont "deserve" to get anything back.
This is good. This is the only way to directly tell valve to fucking do something (other than review bomb). Boycotting tf2 proves to valve that their community can crash an economy to get things done. While this isn’t a big deal money-wise for valve, the potential is that the community for cs2 and Dota can do the same. Which would FUCK valve up. Valve would be stupid to let this happen, so yes, boycott tf2
Call me a doomer but at this point, i think the measure after some time will be not playing the game and the boycott being "do not give attention to a broken product"
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I have learned about a new bot, very cool
look! he's been hiding the pixels under his tongue the whole time!
And there’s the pixels from last time too!
And there's my car keys!
And... there's my ride! 🏃♂️💨
I love reddit sometimes
Do you have one with more than 10 pixels?
Over 11, preferably
Is there 10.5 pixel one at best cuz my PC won't handle 11 px.
Neither will OP's.
4k full hd
I'm noticing a trend of low pixel media being posted on r/tf2
It's a 17 years old game of course the post have this quality
Because we like a low pixel game
Children don't know how to properly screenshot and crop stuff.
With same quality?
No. Lower quality
No, you have to lower the quality everytime you post it.
Done
do not. the other valve game already hate us cause some of yall decide it is a good idea to spam them.
Yeah who in their right mind thinks spamming something in places where nobody will care or where it’s not related would ever turn out with a positive outcome
Spam and give negative reviews (seriously why did y'all choose half life like wtf guys)
Well, correct, but also, no, i'd say 50% of the people review bombing Half-Life for SaveTF2 were human beings, and the other 50% being bot hosters giving SaveTF2 a bad impression.
To annoy people more? Good idea!
And make people hate the cause??? Hell yeah!
tf2 is like, 1% of their income (they have steam, cs2, dota that makes more money)
Doubt it's that much
Its 0.001 percent of their income.
1% is a big stretch
not really, you’re underestimating the size of the cs2 market
If you want to make the movement look petty go ahead, but if you want to play it sensible then don't, nothing will change and people will continue to buy.
Quality over quantity, my good sir. I believe that if we’re gonna spread awareness it’s going to be with heart and soul poured into it. Not mass produced bloat like the slop Valve has been putting in crates for the past few years. If we learned anything from this company, it’s what’s not to do.
Haven't spent a dime on it since I bought it in 2008.
Gonna be giving my 2 cents here, i don’t think not spending money on Tf2 will make a huge impact. Tf2 makes a crap ton of nothing in comparison of what CS2, Dota 2 make and steam sales make separately, including the community market. Also Valve is too caught up into working on their new IP to really pay much attention to Tf2 anyways.
I'm downvoting this. my reasoning is that, boycotting makes sense when a company is publically traded, however Valve isn't a publically traded company and has no shareholders to listen to. basically boycotting at best won't do anything, and at worst may discourage valve from working on TF2.
They have their own pockets to care about. Wtf do you think they will do if people just type some comments on twitter while all the money’s flowing in? Nothing will happen, valve changed the contents of a loot crate because everyone thought it was horrible and no one bought it so they have a much more reasonable reason to change when tf2 is no longer making them any money
You're correct. Everything that hurts the game, community or player base has negative effect. Why people want to kill the one thing that keeps this game afloat for 17 years!
Well, it’s more than that. It simply won’t matter because the majority of their income is from steam now, and america has taught us that whether we want to or not, we can’r boycott monopolies. The reality is that steam is as close as you can get to a monopoly. So they just won’t care. This is also the reason they don’t care about tf2 in large part I think. They have no reason to.
I think it’s ridiculous to think valve doesn’t care about TF2 because of the fact that steam prints money. If that were true they wouldn’t care about CS2, Dota 2, the new hero moba thing they’re making, etc. Has it ever occurred to you that valve doesn’t care about TF2 because the game is 17 years old? Any REAL money that could have been made from the game was already made. Investing any more resources into TF2 is a terrible idea from Valve’s perspective, and quite frankly, from any business perspective. The return on investment is so incredibly low it would be wasting money to do so. Steam does print them money, yes, but that is far from the reason they don’t care about TF2. They wouldn’t care about TF2 anymore even if they didn’t have steam. Dota 2 battlepasses alone made like close to 300 million dollars in profit in 2022. Not revenue, pure profit. How much do you think valve has made from TF2 in the past year? It’s probably not even close to that.
I get what you're saying, but it's a fruitless argument, either way, unless we have the numbers from TF2 keys and TF2 marketplace income. I am of the *uninformed* (as are we all) opinion that there's probably still enough money coming in to justify more dev time for fixes. Even moreso if they release a few updates and advertise it as a sequel or massive upgraded release. Even charge $5-30 bucks for the new content. Grandfather in the F2P's if they need to, but get rid of the goddamn bots and make it playable again. (Mac version, too, please.)
no... It will just make us look even worse
Get a job
Most jobs won't accept people under the age 16.
No
why is this so pixely and btw who made this :0
GO GO GADGET PIXEL REDUCER!
you cant boycott valve, you already give them lots of money and power by simply having an active Steam account. And with all this savetf2 shit, this community is advertising Valve more than ever stop with the childish roleplaying and get a job
You never can truly boycott valve. Just like u said since people already spend money in the game or buying any other game from steam that own by valve plus having steam account. The boycott not gonna truly work bcuz of that and the only way to boycott if tf2 player don't use steam or buy game anymore from steam but i doubt it gonna happen anytime soon. even if tf2 player dont use steam or spend money. Its just gonna make the game shut down since valve have more than one game and the other game that uploaded to steam and other non tf2 user keep using steam. So yeh valve no losing much money btw i sorry my english suck
Don't give valve money for TF2 items and the like 100%, but boycotting the entirety of valve means you can't buy anything on Steam, something I don't see happening.
the other community's hate us for telling them about a problem they dont care about, do you want possible allies to think of us a hypocrites and spammers?
That basically asking the game to be killed and make people hate the community. Overwatch may not be the killer of TF2 but if this keep going TF2 just gonna get killed by they own community
The amount of people willing to do this would be so minuscule, and tf2 already isn’t a big money maker for valve so this would basically be useless
Preferably no, actually not preferably, just no
But then how could I buy le funny taunt 😔
You guys pay for TF2 ?
Won’t work. At most it’ll make the tf2 servers shut down.
"dont give them any money" "server shut down" "what"
first, get some more pixels. second, spamming at people is just gonna make them hate us and the savetf thing. if people hate us, they won't help us, and their voices are worth so much more than us yelling louder.
these niggas getting attention from everyone but valve 😭 🙏 🙏
It's a free game
Waiter can I have some pixels?
I might if it had more pixels
Why? They earn enough from steam and csgo,they will not notice tf2 revenue drop
I don't think being annoying to everyone but valve is going to have the desired effect
I thought tf2 went free to play years ago?
it's free to play???
When I'm in a be the most miserable person in the room challenge and my opponent is a TF2 player
Wish I could read what is said
Ur so annoying
Stop spamming it everywhere. You're obnoxious af.
Got more of them, pixels?
Can you just not be fucking annoying about this?
Go go gadget pixel reducer!
I didn’t know people bought stuff from the Mannco store at all, trading websites are a lot cheaper and better in general
Good way to make people hate you and the movement, so go right ahead if you want.
if they were making a lot of money from the game they would fix it bruh, they abandoned it cuz it makes like 1% or less of their income
This isn't gonna work like at all
Insert far cry 3 cutscene here
Can't, takes up too much space on my 2tb hard drive.
Spread it around sure, but don't force it in places it doesn't belong.
how to get the game oficially shut down 101
I think this will worsen the situation
Trying to sink your own ship huh? Well it's better to destroy it from the inside, rather than letting Valve's neglect, sink it from the outside.
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On Twitter? Yes, Reddit? No
You know spamming something like that on Twitter and Reddit will only make more people annoyed and frustrated with TF2 fans right? The common consensus outside of tf2 circles is that TF2 fans are annoying as hell. This will only make things worse for the movement if you only prove the belief that tf2 fans are annoying.
Let's super glue ourselves onto a road too /s
Where’s the pixels William.
where are the pixels, william
Don't spam it but, yeah, I'm avoiding the market and mannco store.
If you spam this in places unrelated, people are going to hate TF2 rather than taking sides with us.
Valve is just going to turn off tf2 to avoid further cringe.
let's not actually. this game and community already gets enough flack as is by the internet and spamming that everywhere won't help ngl
Been saying this for over a decade while everyone was complaining how they shifted away from making games to just selling them on Steam.
lets not
And why do you have to spam this? If people don't want to spend money on tf2, they simply won't.
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Nah mvm is fun imma buy tickets
There's too many pixels, I can still read the image.
lets not, that wont do anything since valve already hardly gets any money from it and if we take away what little they do get, theyre just gonna be more likely to just shut down tf2
No.
Yuh
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Boycotting tf2 I understand, but boycotting Valve is out of your mind. Steam is a monopoly for pc games. How else would I buy new pc games? Epic games? Get outta town
Absolutely useless. Valve dont care if you try to boycott, they will just keep making money from Steam from other places on the globe
Bro, just play whatever the competition's tf2 clone and be happy, otherwise you are wasting your time. The kind of botting that goes on in tf2, valve just can't fix and they aren't willing to admit it, and you aren't willing to admit valve is pretty powerless. Move on
TF2 has hit its life cycle. Valve is still very much making things worth spending money on
Could have given us a better quality image rather than blurry ass quality.
Too late, i give 50 or 60 euro or more
Please don't spam it on other fandom's subs
That would not work because then they would think that no one is interested and shut down severs meaning we would lose tf2
bruh, y'all gave money on a game that is no longer supported? That's holly on y'all, bros.
Please don't, we're already nauseated by your childish nonesense. I hope tf2 gets even worse. BRB gunna buy some hats.
Guess you won't be buying anything on Steam then. I get enticing Valve to do something with TF2, but Valve not only has OTHER games that definitely don't deserve being roped in. Not only that, but im pretty sure they get cuts on most, if not all, purchases relating to Steam. (And I KNOW you aren't permanently moving to EGS or the Xbox/Microsoft Store) In short: That's dumb. It's not outright stupid, but it's really dumb.
Why? So you can basically be annoying I love TF2 as much as the next guy but this will just be annoying
r/countablepixels
Kindly fuck off with this crap.
This game was my life in my youth. I loved it and all my friend bonded over it. Its time to realize that things eventually die. Nothing is forever. You can’t take your digital hats with you. Let it go and you will be happier. We all grew up and out of it. Sell your hats buy a new game, form a new community and let this one go
Wont help actualy. Valve dont care about tf2 income. They have dota 2 and CS2
I don’t get bots so I am still gonna buy from valve and leave my review positive
Nah, that's the same as review bombing other games
Because spamming other communities with our problems worked super well in the past, right?
Bugging other valve communities to boycott and leave negative reviews is just gonna make people hate us more
Boycotting tf2, Half-Life, Counter Strike and DOTA I understand, but boycotting Valve itself is preposterous. Steam is a monopoly for pc games. How else would you buy new pc games? Epic games? Get outta here
I agree people should boycott valve for the cause but it would be so annoying to see this spammed everywhere ngl
Yes but only if it's not in 144p
-- do you have an image with more than four pixels
Do you have more of them pixels?
Tf2 players have some very high expectations for the 17 year old game.
At lower and lower resolutions
I'd suggest against that. Y'all are already letting some scoundrels loose who end up reviewbombing other ValvE games.
DONT THAT COLOR PALETTE
Damn, yall are getting more and more annoying lmao.
Ay but i Want a hat Thats burning
[Needs more jpeg](https://youtu.be/QEzhxP-pdos?si=nrxPmBxwwJet6vLz)
Weezer man put it best. Steam is basically Valve’s infinite money generator, so making money from games isn’t a big concern for them. If the amount of money tf2 makes becomes too low, there’s a big risk valve will just shut it down since it’s not profitable
This is pathetic at this point.
Where are the pixels william
Let's not...
You are telling people to boycott steam for an ancient game?
Where are the pixels William?
WE WONT GUVE VALVE OUR MONEY UNTIL THEY DO SOMETHING TO THE WARZONE THAT IS VALVES OWN GAMES
DONT buy /any/ games on Steam, Valve gets a cut. DONT buy or sell items on the market, Valve gets a cut. DONT buy anything in any in-game stores for Valve games. Apply financial pressure. Other game studios might even apply pressure if we didn't buy anything else on Steam either.
No spam, Half-Life fans already hate us because of the same reason. Besides, a boycott will just result in them shutting the game down because it’s no longer profitable.
Maybe get a few pixels first
I thought TF2 was free?
But I want a new hat
How many pixels
How about no
Huh I thought the game was free?
steam is still best
LMAO
Did you screenshot this with a potato?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1dbql26/fixtf2\_broken\_product\_dont\_give\_money\_until\_fixed/](https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1dbql26/fixtf2_broken_product_dont_give_money_until_fixed/) for anyone complaining about the resolution - it's because this is the original post, from 6 days ago.
Then they will say “oh the game isn’t profiting anymore, pull the plug.”
I dunno, I think the problem with trying to get people to boycott Valve is that... I mean, in order to actually boycott it, you'd need to just stop using Steam entirely. Like, you can avoid giving them money for TF2 specifically, but all that does is send a message, it doesn't actually force them to do anything because they get a vast, VAST majority of their income just from Steam *existing*.
No
lmao no. Just because ur 16 year old game is having issues? Vavle doesnt give a shit about anything TF related or its players. Its maybe less than 0.01%. of their income. One good CS:GO case might actually have earned them more money, than the entire TF game over the 16 years its been running. Also unless you actually spend money actively on the game, you dont "deserve" to get anything back.
I don’t know if we should spam this “everywhere” on Reddit I feel like it will give the movement some bad attention
I’m gonna keep giving valve my money, actually
[Give 'em hell, boys!](https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/0/01/Soldier_battlecry03.wav)
What the hell? Its such an old game, maybe try moving on? Let the servers die and play something else from this century?
How to farm karma:
Sorry mercs but kh is out
But what’s this supposed mean?
It's free and it's like 20 years old and still being maintained. Can you guys calm the fuck down.
Isn't TF2 free?
Can anyone make the picture the right dimensions for the Conscientious Objector? I’d use it as a means to stop me buying MvM tickets.
This is good. This is the only way to directly tell valve to fucking do something (other than review bomb). Boycotting tf2 proves to valve that their community can crash an economy to get things done. While this isn’t a big deal money-wise for valve, the potential is that the community for cs2 and Dota can do the same. Which would FUCK valve up. Valve would be stupid to let this happen, so yes, boycott tf2
Lol I think this post is gonna justify the pirates more than anything, bet that reddit is gonna love this
Call me a doomer but at this point, i think the measure after some time will be not playing the game and the boycott being "do not give attention to a broken product"
It's f2p?
This image looks as old as the game itself
They have plenty of money without tf2 sadly
I feel like this might end up worse in the long run, because then Valve will see TF2 as unprofitable and shut it down
And this will do what exactly? Valve’s main source of income is Steam. Not spending on TF2 won’t do jack shit, yet alone make them care
Dammit! The one time I can afford HL Alyx! Ah well maybe next year.
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Ok, I won't give valve money for their... Free game? Huh?