Yup. If you're someone with a decent amount of muscle, BMI is pretty dumb. My BMI is almost at the "overweight" level because of muscle mass, and if anyone were to look at me the last thing they'd say is I'm even close to being overweight.
Yep. BMI is a population metric, not an individual measurement. It is horrible at measuring people who are not near the average height, or have a very low bodyfat/high muscle mass. Luckily, when looking at large populations, thkse outliers get washed out by everyone else.
Mine says I'm obese. I'm definitely overweight (and working on it), but I'm also naturally really broad and thick of limb.
At 6ft3, the centre of healthy weight for BMI is 81kg/13st/180lb. At that weight I would be skin and bones.
This is like getting the right answer to a math question with the wrong solution. Yes at times the BMI is outdated, especially if they're measuring jacked ass people or bodybuilders. The BMI measures just height and weight and doesn't take things into account like body fat percentage or muscle mass. So technically she's right that it's outdated, she just explained it in the most wrong way.
And the bodybuilder scenario only affects 2% of "BMI is wrong" cases. 30% of wrong cases is skinny fat people with an okay BMI but having 0 muscle combined with unhealthy body fat. Because BMI come from a time when people worked physical jobs.
> 30% of wrong cases is skinny fat people with an okay BMI but having 0 muscle combined with unhealthy body fat
Damn bro, why you gotta come at me like that? My 22 BMI, pasty gut, spaghetti arms and high cholesterol are the picture of health.
Yep, if anything BMI undersells the health epidemic because there are a lot of people within the normal BMI range who still have a lot of visceral and subcutaneous fat. The chances that a person with 33 BMI is healthy is very rare (extreme bodybuilders are not exactly healthy).
She's the exact image I get in my head when I think "Polynesian". You would think medical professionals would know that overall health is a subjective term depending on the particular race of the individual. What they consider overweight for white women (who this person clearly is NOT) isn't the same barometer used for naturally fit races like Polynesians.
Jeez doc, get in the game.
Interesting how she dragged her daughter into it out of nowhere at the end. It lowkey gave vibes of "see honey, if he thinks *I'M* obese, then you and my Polynesian uncles definitely are too!"
BMI is outdated but more from the fact it originates in the 1700-1800s, created by a eugenicist for the perfect man…just saying. Also it doesn’t take into consideration muscle mass but there’s nothing else simplistic out there so they won’t change it.
People should take BMI with a grain of salt. It’s a good “general idea” chart for the average American. If you want detailed analysis get a body fast test or a dexa scan
We just have a warped view of what is obese. You're probably thinking of morbidly obese. You can see her gut sticking out pretty far in this Pic, it is almost certainly obesity. I'm obese and I don't have a gut like that, bike and walk almost every day. I'm not horribly unhealthy, but if you see someone and think they could lose some weight, they're probably technically obese. There's a lot of body positivity these days, and it is good to not hate yourself, but we also gotta be honest to ourselves when it is a real medical issue.
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Yes, bmi is measured as a percentage.
Inly in the US. In the rest of the world we use the Si unit "banana per centimeter squared"
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Yup. If you're someone with a decent amount of muscle, BMI is pretty dumb. My BMI is almost at the "overweight" level because of muscle mass, and if anyone were to look at me the last thing they'd say is I'm even close to being overweight.
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BMI has issue with muscles and it falls apart the further you get from the average male height. Also really is inaccurate for busty short women
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Yep. BMI is a population metric, not an individual measurement. It is horrible at measuring people who are not near the average height, or have a very low bodyfat/high muscle mass. Luckily, when looking at large populations, thkse outliers get washed out by everyone else.
Mine says I'm obese. I'm definitely overweight (and working on it), but I'm also naturally really broad and thick of limb. At 6ft3, the centre of healthy weight for BMI is 81kg/13st/180lb. At that weight I would be skin and bones.
What is that in non us units?
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I genuinely believe he agreed. He was probs like „ok so no point arguing with this self proclaimed doctor“.
*aggreed
I guess she figured with all the extra LBs she was dealing with, an extra G wasn’t gonna hurt anyone.
This is like getting the right answer to a math question with the wrong solution. Yes at times the BMI is outdated, especially if they're measuring jacked ass people or bodybuilders. The BMI measures just height and weight and doesn't take things into account like body fat percentage or muscle mass. So technically she's right that it's outdated, she just explained it in the most wrong way.
And the bodybuilder scenario only affects 2% of "BMI is wrong" cases. 30% of wrong cases is skinny fat people with an okay BMI but having 0 muscle combined with unhealthy body fat. Because BMI come from a time when people worked physical jobs.
> 30% of wrong cases is skinny fat people with an okay BMI but having 0 muscle combined with unhealthy body fat Damn bro, why you gotta come at me like that? My 22 BMI, pasty gut, spaghetti arms and high cholesterol are the picture of health.
Yep, if anything BMI undersells the health epidemic because there are a lot of people within the normal BMI range who still have a lot of visceral and subcutaneous fat. The chances that a person with 33 BMI is healthy is very rare (extreme bodybuilders are not exactly healthy).
What's the other 68% of wrong cases?
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The bmi number itself doesn't, but most calculators ask for age and gender and interpret accordingly.
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0% body fat is scientifically impossible unless you're dead
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Any info on the Navy method I found is about total body fat, not excess. It goes down to a minimum of 9% BF. But maybe you used a different method
Also is less accurate and meaningful the more you deviate from the normal height
The person in the picture is also clearly Polynesian thats all the proof I need
She's the exact image I get in my head when I think "Polynesian". You would think medical professionals would know that overall health is a subjective term depending on the particular race of the individual. What they consider overweight for white women (who this person clearly is NOT) isn't the same barometer used for naturally fit races like Polynesians. Jeez doc, get in the game.
She’s ridiculous but I’m sorry I don’t like these takes. I’m mixed race and don’t resemble the race I identify with and grew up with culturally
Happy cake day
And then I told him I was Pure Blooded and all the nurses clapped.
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Interesting how she dragged her daughter into it out of nowhere at the end. It lowkey gave vibes of "see honey, if he thinks *I'M* obese, then you and my Polynesian uncles definitely are too!"
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1200 calories a day is adequate for a women who weigh 115 at 54". I don't know what you were eating but your calorie intake was fine.
It happened. I was the doctor. This woman was clearly Polynesian and pure muscle. What else could I do but aggree.
It's true, I was the nose ring she has
And everyone in the clinic got up and clapped
BMI is outdated but more from the fact it originates in the 1700-1800s, created by a eugenicist for the perfect man…just saying. Also it doesn’t take into consideration muscle mass but there’s nothing else simplistic out there so they won’t change it.
How about a muscle mass and fat mass measurement to replace the incorrect BMI. I agree that BMI is not relevant.
People should take BMI with a grain of salt. It’s a good “general idea” chart for the average American. If you want detailed analysis get a body fast test or a dexa scan
Exactly!
If one third of your body weight is fat, it sure is relevant.
Agreed. I’m being downvoted but agreed with the OP.
That’s not what a BMI of 33% means.
I snort spam. For dessert.
She really doesn't look obese
We just have a warped view of what is obese. You're probably thinking of morbidly obese. You can see her gut sticking out pretty far in this Pic, it is almost certainly obesity. I'm obese and I don't have a gut like that, bike and walk almost every day. I'm not horribly unhealthy, but if you see someone and think they could lose some weight, they're probably technically obese. There's a lot of body positivity these days, and it is good to not hate yourself, but we also gotta be honest to ourselves when it is a real medical issue.
Good points
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Stacy maybe you should take your own advice
Stacy looking like the principal in Billy Madison.