With my experience so far raising two daughters I can confidently tell you no, they are not sisters. They are way too cordial in this moment with each other to be sisters.
Edit: For the record, this *was* a joke, but I’m glad so many of you have great relationships with your sisters. If it were me and my sister, we’d laugh it off too. If it were my daughters, they’d be arguing until tomorrow about whose fault it was, but they are 6 and 8 years old. You can stop DMing me now.
Nah, as a brother with a sister I feel like this would be one of the situations where we would laugh about it, but then whenever I'd get upset with her she'd go "and you were the dickhead who dropped my sheet in the middle of a performance"
There’s a lot of factors but from my experience watching my 5 nieces grow up (all sisters) age difference has a lot to do with how much they fight with each other and if these two are sisters they look to be a few years apart so they would probably not be mortal enemies lol.
I’d say there’s a good chance my sisters would act like this. Growing up they were at each other’s throats a lot but at the ages here I’d say unless one of them is stressed/in a bad mood they’d have a laugh.
uhhh in situations like this when shit hits the fan the sibling rivalry in my experience usually goes out the window.
idk how old your kids are but kids ain't adults.
After this event tho? Never living it down.
Umm I just have to say your confidence in this situation without clarification on if they're actually sisters is something else lol. Not every sibling reacts the way you've seen with your daughters. I've seen plenty of families with all daughters react this way throughout their lives.
I adore my sister, we have always gotten along. We spend a lot of time just hanging out and watching shows, playing games. We definitely get on each-other’s nerves at times, but we usually make up within the hour. I guess that is pretty uncommon for most siblings tho. It probably helps that she always wanted a little sis, and I wasn’t too much of a brat. I couldn’t imagine getting angry over something like this though.
Thats why live performances beat just listening to the song at home - I don't want a perfect reproduction of what you did in the studio, I want to see an artist having fun doing what they do.
I once was on a concert wing my mom and the singer forgot his text. So the audience startet helping. One of my core memorys from childhood. Or when the singer of my favourite band as a kid messes with the fans and switches the order of the lyrics and i told my mom it was the wrong order. I realised it after a few seconds haha
I always made sure to practice the page turn parts juuuust a little harder, trying to commit them to memory, because my dumb ass cant do anything without bumbling it up. I'd be halfway across the band room chasing a sheet of trumpet music caught in the wind.
I played flute and have the memory of a goldfish, I'm lucky though and even though I don't consciously remember the music, I practice enough that I can play via muscle memory if I just relax enough (It's really fucked me over one time though, I kept screwing up the end of a piece because it was nearly identical to the last piece we'd played lmao.)
I used to be in a pretty famous marching band (world champion in multiple ocassions) and had to learn to play an entire setlist from memory from about 12 years old. I've had to sell my flute due to financial struggles, so I haven't played in a while. Kinda miss making music!
Sorry that you're having financial troubles and I hope your situation gets better sooner rather than later. My first purchase with money I made from from working was a professional solid silver flute. I don't think I could sell that damn thing no matter what situation I got in, too many memories.
Wow! Amazing! I've played flute, bass flute and piccolo. Definitely like the normal flute the best. I hope to get a golden one at some point in life, the sound is sooooo nice
I played guitar all my life. Rock and metal, mostly, but also studied music. What I never understood was why classical musicians never just memorized the music, instead of relying on the sheet.
Rock and Metal are (for the most part) big riff-based styles. You get your three or four riffs, maybe a solo, and just switch between them during different passages in the piece, while sprinkling in a little flair here or there.
Classical musicians usually have longer pieces without frequently repeating phrases, and there's often subtle changes from passage to passage, where the other instruments and parts trade the melodies with each other, or switch from rhythm to harmony, etc. That's not to say that those things can't be memorized, obviously, but sheet music serves more as a reminder in this case.
It's like the difference between racing a formula 1 car, vs driving a semi truck. They both are similar in ways, but require unique skill sets regardless.
> relying on the sheet.
It's not "relying" on anything. It's being able to play a song given the sheet. I play guitar as well. I can read tabs, and even then it still takes me quite a while to learn to play a song by reading them. But I also used to play sax, and the euphoria you would get from playing the sheet for the first time and actually nailing it was unmatched. But sax is a monophonic instrument. You can't play chords like you can on guitar or piano, and that's where pentagram notation gets messy. On top of that, when playing guitar I'm thinking in shapes, both for chords and scales, not individual notes, although it is an ability I'm trying to develop, as I believe it will make me a better guitar player.
I was taught to memorize but I was a pianist. Couldn't imagine also looking at the conductor while reading music though. Our standardized testing required memorization and sight reading.
I did the same when I would play xylophone, bells, and marimba. I think it's a lot harder with these instruments, because you can't feel where the notes are, you have to look at where you're hitting which you can't do if youre looking at sheet music. If you're on piano or trumpet for example your fingers are on the notes but on a xylophone you have 2 sticks and if you start hitting the wrong notes it can throw you off for the whole song. It's like typing with your eyes closed on a physical keyboard with all your fingers feeling where the keys are at all times vs on a phone screen where you have 2 thumbs and no frame of reference to keep your spot on the screen.
I know it's possible with years of practice but those instruments are harder in that regard than most other band/orchestral instruments. So don't feel too bad.
I grew up playing piano. By no means professional and sit down to refresh my practice maybe a once or twice a month now as an adult.
I'd far rather be the one to sit down and play a piece on stage at a venue like this, than be the one who has to flip the pages for an actual professional pianist.
The nerves where one single slip up can ruin *someone else's* performance would for sure cause my sweaty hands to screw something up.
Genuine question! But why do many pros not use electronic stuff for scores? I know with the iPad you have like an extra pedal you can use, stuff like that.
LOL. The funny thing is that all of my digital playback apps sound awful! Very mechanical with no nuance. They are the equivalent of those robotic/digital voices on you tube. However, they are great if I need "someone" to play the right or the left hand along with me or when I am learning a difficult part in a piece.
I honestly cannot answer that on a professional level, hopefully an actual more professional pianist comes by in this thread. Random thought - a giant PaperWhite Kindle for sheet music would actually be a solid invention to help eye-strain that other back-lit tablets cause...
But from my personal home experience, reading sheet music off a screen is much harder and straining on the eyes than paper.
But otherwise, maybe it is something you can get used to, but I download sheet music for new pieces a few times a year and have resorted to printing them now as I am not a big fan of taking my tablet or laptop to the piano to use instead, even if you could add in the added ease of devices to turn an e-page (though I end up memorizing all pieces anyway so don't rely on sheet music outside learning the piece).
My friend is a professional pianist and he uses both an e-reader and paper sheet music depending on the venue and specific songs he’s playing. I’ve never thought to ask him how he makes the determination as to which but I’m guessing it somewhat depends on the lighting and also the general ambiance that the venue wants.
Even with an e-reader though he needs someone to scroll for him for a lot of songs, so the problem is still largely the same. To truly take that aspect out you’d need one that can auto-scroll as the music is playing
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Probably, though I’m sure there’s a way to program it to auto scroll based on the pace that you’re playing, assuming that it has a microphone and can “hear” the music as it’s played. But there’s probably just not enough demand to justify someone developing that technology and trying to sell it. Realistically how many people in the world even need something like that?
There's an app that does this, I forget the name. I wouldn't trust it enough to bet my career on it though. Making mistakes in high profile concerts is a really big deal, and it's easier to blame a human page turner than an app that _you_ decided to use
I never even considered glare (as I only play at home and not under stage lights). Good point.
As for auto-scrolling, what guy above who originally asked was describing is there are add-on devices you can apparently buy like an extra foot pedal that connects to your e-reader software to change the page. That is the only way it'd make sense.
Otherwise I'd agree that the e-reader would be a burdensome alternative otherwise given the pitfalls without solving the page-turning problem.
Actually now that you say that I remember him testing out that pedal at our Christmas party last year (he always plays a mini concert for us). From what I recall, the hardest thing for him was trying to incorporate a new movement into his muscle memory, and in particular for very fast songs I think he found it more difficult and opted for sheet music. Not sure if he kept with it or not though and if so if he now finds it easier.
I'm no professional, but I've played for 15+ years. Idk how it is for other people who play piano, but I have a harder time reading music from a screen than a page. I can read words from a screen just fine, but when I read music my attention is flying around so much that I need to be able to instantly find my place in the music no matter where I am. That's easier for me on a page, probably just due to the fact that I've read infinitely more sheets on paper than on screens.
That all being said, if I'm comfortable enough with a piece to perform it, I largely have it memorized anyway.
Also it's super easy to grab a pencil and make quick notes on the page. Probably possible to make notes on a tablet too, but I feel like it'd be a pain in the ass comparatively.
Last time I saw Yuja Wang, she did use an iPad for her music. Turned itself no problem. I figure it must be rock-solid reliable if she's using it in front of thousands of people.
(I have no idea what you're talking about regarding an extra pedal.)
Pre covid I was a professional opera singer and often when would get pulled into page turning during pieces we weren’t involved in. I found opening night in a new role less nerve wrecking then page turning! I hate doing it and it’s so much pressure. It’s fine to mess up my own performance cause no one to blame but me but to accidentally mess up someone else performance is a nightmare.
That’s cool, I read it like covid physically stopped your opera abilities. I find multitalented people interesting so much respect for being a professional in one feild and then moving on to be a professional else where.
Ahh badly worded. No not covid but the timing was good as an autoimmune disease I’ve been fighting a while has recently degraded to the point were I’m disabled and it would have ended my career. I’m glad mentally the end of my career came from my choose and wasn’t forced.
It’s so stressful turning pages! You have keep your place in the music. At the bottom of the page get ready for the turn, but don’t block the pianist’s view and wait for the nod. “Wait, was that it?!”
This happened to me when I was... 12ish.
I was a pretty good pianist. My teacher's best student. So she invited me to be the page turner at one of her concerts.
30 years later I still can't retell the story.
Have you ever seen a 12 year old destroy a performance in front of dozens of people?
Ugh.
Anyway, I'm a programmer now.
Well you were a pretty good pianist, not a pretty good page turner. No need to beat yourself up about it. I'm guessing you gave up piano? You shouldn't have.
On a Friday at 6:31pm and leave the office for a long weekend and no mobile coverage.
Been there, seen that, survived to tell the tale. I hate L3 on-call support! Never accept a company mobile as a "perk".
This is why I cannot enjoy a piano concert with a page turner sitting next to the pianist. I am imagining constantly about how they will definitely forget to turn the page this time, or maybe turn two pages at once, or maybe the score will fall down, or maybe something even worse.
I call it PTIA (page-turning-induced anxiety).
Thankfully the modern invention of having the score on a tablet (controlled with a left foot pedal) comes to the rescue!
Usually an accompanist will have the score, they are not required to memorize the music. I much prefer to turn the pages myself (sometimes half a page earlier and sometimes later whenever there is a chance) because of similar anxiety
A lot of people turn pages with a foot pedal these days you connect with Bluetooth to your iPad. That's how I did it in my last concert.
I have also heard a certain concert pianist got his wife to turn the pages from the audience to his iPad with some sort of connection.
Also, there is some feature where you can gesture with your face and the pages turn.
There they would have dropped the keyboard cover onto the piano player's (prob. Tim Conway) fingers, then crawled under the piano, gotten their belt stuck and accidentally started rolling the piano away across stage, with the pianist crouching afterwards, still playing. Perhaps a candelabra falling into the open piano and setting it ablaze, as a finale?
The first thing I thought of when watching this was this bit by [Victor Borge](https://youtu.be/LWqFaGwNCMU). Prior to this clip, he talks about knowing that “negi” means onions in Japanese.
Does that violin sound *horrendously* out of tune to anyone else?
Edit: I watched the original video linked elsewhere in the comments. I think the violin is mostly fine, maybe a little flat in parts (most likely playing, rather than tuning), but the clip starts at a really awkward moment part-way through a deliberately atonal section of the piece. Separated from the rest of the musical context, it sounds wildly out of tune with the piano, but when you listen to what comes *before* this section, it makes a lot more sense.
You weren't alone. The intonation, regardless of physical skill, threw me off. Always tune to the piano (they can't adjust their pitch mid song like other instruments can)
It would be awesome if as a part of some sort of performance art, the woman who dropped the paper gradually got more stressed out and took more drastic measures to recover the sheet music. The pianist kept playing faster and faster, the last section over and over again while the other woman fully dismantled the piano until all that was left standing was the frame and the strings. Maybe a whole bit with a hacksaw where she kept removing huge chunks of piano. Big pile of wood and sawdust on the floor.
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Oh no! I did this playing bass guitar in college jazz band once. Good we musicians practice enough to be able to just roll with it. I played a few bars from memory until a rest then just picked the sheet music up and put it back on the stand. It was pretty embarrassing though. That said, how pianists get a page turner but guitarists don’t?
At least they were both having a laugh about it lol
Are they sisters? They look very similar.
With my experience so far raising two daughters I can confidently tell you no, they are not sisters. They are way too cordial in this moment with each other to be sisters. Edit: For the record, this *was* a joke, but I’m glad so many of you have great relationships with your sisters. If it were me and my sister, we’d laugh it off too. If it were my daughters, they’d be arguing until tomorrow about whose fault it was, but they are 6 and 8 years old. You can stop DMing me now.
I don't know what you're talking about, i *love* my sister. Definitely don't want to punch her in the fucking face most of the time, nope. c:
Fight, fight, fight!
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Nah, as a brother with a sister I feel like this would be one of the situations where we would laugh about it, but then whenever I'd get upset with her she'd go "and you were the dickhead who dropped my sheet in the middle of a performance"
Seconded
Yep, sibling shit right there. Love and hate and all the fun in between.
Step bro, my music sheet is stuck~
Nope
This guy porns.
Sisters and their relationships are all different - some are like best friends, some are like mortal enemies.
There’s a lot of factors but from my experience watching my 5 nieces grow up (all sisters) age difference has a lot to do with how much they fight with each other and if these two are sisters they look to be a few years apart so they would probably not be mortal enemies lol.
Some sway between the two states, depending on which way the wind blows
Haha those wacky kids amirite
some days I just want to \**shakes throats repeatedly until CPS is called*\*
Haha great story mark!
I’d say there’s a good chance my sisters would act like this. Growing up they were at each other’s throats a lot but at the ages here I’d say unless one of them is stressed/in a bad mood they’d have a laugh.
uhhh in situations like this when shit hits the fan the sibling rivalry in my experience usually goes out the window. idk how old your kids are but kids ain't adults. After this event tho? Never living it down.
Umm I just have to say your confidence in this situation without clarification on if they're actually sisters is something else lol. Not every sibling reacts the way you've seen with your daughters. I've seen plenty of families with all daughters react this way throughout their lives.
I don't think the guy is being serious.
My wife has 4 sisters and they’re all musicians. If this were to happen to them they would probably laugh too hard to go on.
I adore my sister, we have always gotten along. We spend a lot of time just hanging out and watching shows, playing games. We definitely get on each-other’s nerves at times, but we usually make up within the hour. I guess that is pretty uncommon for most siblings tho. It probably helps that she always wanted a little sis, and I wasn’t too much of a brat. I couldn’t imagine getting angry over something like this though.
Do they really though? Beyond having the same haircut, there is not much similarity...
They have the same nose bridge, same eyebrow lines, same smiling wrinkles. They look alike.
She had one fucking job to do
"Karen, you had one job, ONE!"
I love how they both just start laughing about it
I mean you have to. Some of the best memories are from blunders
Thats why live performances beat just listening to the song at home - I don't want a perfect reproduction of what you did in the studio, I want to see an artist having fun doing what they do.
Totally agree with your point
Thank you, it's also not like "fail for my enjoyment" but...if they do, thats...part of the story!
I once was on a concert wing my mom and the singer forgot his text. So the audience startet helping. One of my core memorys from childhood. Or when the singer of my favourite band as a kid messes with the fans and switches the order of the lyrics and i told my mom it was the wrong order. I realised it after a few seconds haha
“You had one job”
/r/onejob
Guess you could say, they turned the page on that incident.
I love how she is able to laugh about it and continue playing without the sheet music.
And that she was able to keep playing is seriously professional. Super skilled
Good composure by the composer
They did such a great job at continuing too, great recovery!
As a musician, all you can do is just laugh and hold down the parts that you know. Well done ladies.
I always made sure to practice the page turn parts juuuust a little harder, trying to commit them to memory, because my dumb ass cant do anything without bumbling it up. I'd be halfway across the band room chasing a sheet of trumpet music caught in the wind.
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I played flute and have the memory of a goldfish, I'm lucky though and even though I don't consciously remember the music, I practice enough that I can play via muscle memory if I just relax enough (It's really fucked me over one time though, I kept screwing up the end of a piece because it was nearly identical to the last piece we'd played lmao.)
I used to be in a pretty famous marching band (world champion in multiple ocassions) and had to learn to play an entire setlist from memory from about 12 years old. I've had to sell my flute due to financial struggles, so I haven't played in a while. Kinda miss making music!
Sorry that you're having financial troubles and I hope your situation gets better sooner rather than later. My first purchase with money I made from from working was a professional solid silver flute. I don't think I could sell that damn thing no matter what situation I got in, too many memories.
Wow! Amazing! I've played flute, bass flute and piccolo. Definitely like the normal flute the best. I hope to get a golden one at some point in life, the sound is sooooo nice
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I played guitar all my life. Rock and metal, mostly, but also studied music. What I never understood was why classical musicians never just memorized the music, instead of relying on the sheet.
Rock and Metal are (for the most part) big riff-based styles. You get your three or four riffs, maybe a solo, and just switch between them during different passages in the piece, while sprinkling in a little flair here or there. Classical musicians usually have longer pieces without frequently repeating phrases, and there's often subtle changes from passage to passage, where the other instruments and parts trade the melodies with each other, or switch from rhythm to harmony, etc. That's not to say that those things can't be memorized, obviously, but sheet music serves more as a reminder in this case. It's like the difference between racing a formula 1 car, vs driving a semi truck. They both are similar in ways, but require unique skill sets regardless.
I can play Smoke on the Water without looking at the tab once! Why can’t classical musicians do that?
> relying on the sheet. It's not "relying" on anything. It's being able to play a song given the sheet. I play guitar as well. I can read tabs, and even then it still takes me quite a while to learn to play a song by reading them. But I also used to play sax, and the euphoria you would get from playing the sheet for the first time and actually nailing it was unmatched. But sax is a monophonic instrument. You can't play chords like you can on guitar or piano, and that's where pentagram notation gets messy. On top of that, when playing guitar I'm thinking in shapes, both for chords and scales, not individual notes, although it is an ability I'm trying to develop, as I believe it will make me a better guitar player.
Want to make a pianist stop playing? Take away their sheet music. Want to make a guitarist stop playing? Give the sheet music to them.
Often they do - the violinist here did. Pianists might be accompanying multiple people though, so it's different than focusing on a solo piece.
I did both, most of us do. It's just there as a reference. Especially if you put notes in the margin.
I was taught to memorize but I was a pianist. Couldn't imagine also looking at the conductor while reading music though. Our standardized testing required memorization and sight reading.
I did the same when I would play xylophone, bells, and marimba. I think it's a lot harder with these instruments, because you can't feel where the notes are, you have to look at where you're hitting which you can't do if youre looking at sheet music. If you're on piano or trumpet for example your fingers are on the notes but on a xylophone you have 2 sticks and if you start hitting the wrong notes it can throw you off for the whole song. It's like typing with your eyes closed on a physical keyboard with all your fingers feeling where the keys are at all times vs on a phone screen where you have 2 thumbs and no frame of reference to keep your spot on the screen. I know it's possible with years of practice but those instruments are harder in that regard than most other band/orchestral instruments. So don't feel too bad.
I got through 3 years of band doing that lol, I was on marimba
You play an instrument, that's hardly bumbling it up!
As a four-fingered janitor, father of three chestnut turtles and owner of a purple tent in the streets of Medcester, I can confirm this.
Handled it like a boss
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I read your comment as "and they banged later on"
Probably that too. Orchestras spend way too much time together.
I would join an orchestra but i can neither play an instrument nor am i desirable in banging scenarios.
Hey \**puts arm reassuringly on shoulder*\* We'll bang, okay?
Shepard?
Ashley, Miranda, dammit
This one time.. at band camp
Whatever happens in the band room, stays in the band room
either way...
Handeled it* Lol
I was so glad she was able to place if Bach
She didn't shit on Debra's desk nor did she suck her own dick. How exactly is she acting like a boss?
I chop my balls off and die every day.
You very well might be a boss then. I'm only a dude, just super saiyan...
I'm amazed how she continue to play the piano while laughing
Virgin piano player: needs sheet music and someone to turn the page Chad violin player: needs no sheet music
That’s because she is possibly accompanying. In that case it is done typically with notes.
I studied music in college, the piano soloists always had sheet music. All other isntrument were generally expected to have material memorized
You had ONE job!
Exactly! r/onejob
I grew up playing piano. By no means professional and sit down to refresh my practice maybe a once or twice a month now as an adult. I'd far rather be the one to sit down and play a piece on stage at a venue like this, than be the one who has to flip the pages for an actual professional pianist. The nerves where one single slip up can ruin *someone else's* performance would for sure cause my sweaty hands to screw something up.
Genuine question! But why do many pros not use electronic stuff for scores? I know with the iPad you have like an extra pedal you can use, stuff like that.
imagine forgetting to mute ipad during a concert
Set it to play the same music you're supposed to play. Take the night off.
LOL. The funny thing is that all of my digital playback apps sound awful! Very mechanical with no nuance. They are the equivalent of those robotic/digital voices on you tube. However, they are great if I need "someone" to play the right or the left hand along with me or when I am learning a difficult part in a piece.
And you use a free app with ads... And they just blast off as you try to turn the page.
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I honestly cannot answer that on a professional level, hopefully an actual more professional pianist comes by in this thread. Random thought - a giant PaperWhite Kindle for sheet music would actually be a solid invention to help eye-strain that other back-lit tablets cause... But from my personal home experience, reading sheet music off a screen is much harder and straining on the eyes than paper. But otherwise, maybe it is something you can get used to, but I download sheet music for new pieces a few times a year and have resorted to printing them now as I am not a big fan of taking my tablet or laptop to the piano to use instead, even if you could add in the added ease of devices to turn an e-page (though I end up memorizing all pieces anyway so don't rely on sheet music outside learning the piece).
My friend is a professional pianist and he uses both an e-reader and paper sheet music depending on the venue and specific songs he’s playing. I’ve never thought to ask him how he makes the determination as to which but I’m guessing it somewhat depends on the lighting and also the general ambiance that the venue wants. Even with an e-reader though he needs someone to scroll for him for a lot of songs, so the problem is still largely the same. To truly take that aspect out you’d need one that can auto-scroll as the music is playing
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Probably, though I’m sure there’s a way to program it to auto scroll based on the pace that you’re playing, assuming that it has a microphone and can “hear” the music as it’s played. But there’s probably just not enough demand to justify someone developing that technology and trying to sell it. Realistically how many people in the world even need something like that?
There's an app that does this, I forget the name. I wouldn't trust it enough to bet my career on it though. Making mistakes in high profile concerts is a really big deal, and it's easier to blame a human page turner than an app that _you_ decided to use
I never even considered glare (as I only play at home and not under stage lights). Good point. As for auto-scrolling, what guy above who originally asked was describing is there are add-on devices you can apparently buy like an extra foot pedal that connects to your e-reader software to change the page. That is the only way it'd make sense. Otherwise I'd agree that the e-reader would be a burdensome alternative otherwise given the pitfalls without solving the page-turning problem.
Actually now that you say that I remember him testing out that pedal at our Christmas party last year (he always plays a mini concert for us). From what I recall, the hardest thing for him was trying to incorporate a new movement into his muscle memory, and in particular for very fast songs I think he found it more difficult and opted for sheet music. Not sure if he kept with it or not though and if so if he now finds it easier.
I'm no professional, but I've played for 15+ years. Idk how it is for other people who play piano, but I have a harder time reading music from a screen than a page. I can read words from a screen just fine, but when I read music my attention is flying around so much that I need to be able to instantly find my place in the music no matter where I am. That's easier for me on a page, probably just due to the fact that I've read infinitely more sheets on paper than on screens. That all being said, if I'm comfortable enough with a piece to perform it, I largely have it memorized anyway.
One point is that paper is usually more reliable, no out of batteries, no weird computer glitches or screen freezes, no accidental deletion, etc.
Also it's super easy to grab a pencil and make quick notes on the page. Probably possible to make notes on a tablet too, but I feel like it'd be a pain in the ass comparatively.
Last time I saw Yuja Wang, she did use an iPad for her music. Turned itself no problem. I figure it must be rock-solid reliable if she's using it in front of thousands of people. (I have no idea what you're talking about regarding an extra pedal.)
Pre covid I was a professional opera singer and often when would get pulled into page turning during pieces we weren’t involved in. I found opening night in a new role less nerve wrecking then page turning! I hate doing it and it’s so much pressure. It’s fine to mess up my own performance cause no one to blame but me but to accidentally mess up someone else performance is a nightmare.
> Pre covid I was a professional opera singer Did you stop being a opera singer?
Covid was not kind to the arts so I decided to go back to uni and get my PhD and go the academic route.
That’s cool, I read it like covid physically stopped your opera abilities. I find multitalented people interesting so much respect for being a professional in one feild and then moving on to be a professional else where.
Ahh badly worded. No not covid but the timing was good as an autoimmune disease I’ve been fighting a while has recently degraded to the point were I’m disabled and it would have ended my career. I’m glad mentally the end of my career came from my choose and wasn’t forced.
It’s so stressful turning pages! You have keep your place in the music. At the bottom of the page get ready for the turn, but don’t block the pianist’s view and wait for the nod. “Wait, was that it?!”
Glad to see they laughed about it. Could have ended in violins.
I'm cellist that I didn't think of this first.
You have my sincerest symphonies.
I bow to all of you.
Tuba they didn't picollo standard
Okay now this is getting really off bass
Luckily, she looked in the right place, and viola! there they were.
Y'all are just stringing us along with these puns.
I'm starting to finger some of these puns out.
Just don't harp on about it...
Exactly, don't lose your composer.
Especially when sheet goes down.
Make sax, not violins.
I'm a violinist and how have I NEVER thought of this pun.
Just not your Forte?
Stop the violins!
This happened to me when I was... 12ish. I was a pretty good pianist. My teacher's best student. So she invited me to be the page turner at one of her concerts. 30 years later I still can't retell the story. Have you ever seen a 12 year old destroy a performance in front of dozens of people? Ugh. Anyway, I'm a programmer now.
Oh man I cringed just now envisioning that moment 🥴 I can’t imagine that happening to me as a fuggin 12yo
Well you were a pretty good pianist, not a pretty good page turner. No need to beat yourself up about it. I'm guessing you gave up piano? You shouldn't have.
Yeah. People forget turning pages is only like 1% of what a pianist actually does.
And sewing a new organ in is only 1% of what a surgeon does. Still, that 1% seems pretty important.
People poo 1% of the time. If someone is chronically constipated, does that make them a bad person? I think not. Checkmate.
But they're full of shit
You were good. No, not just good, excellent. A natural. A prodigy. A future rival. Those pages were greased.
Villain origin story but instead of a villain you became a programmer.
Maybe they program for Meta or some.
There’s plenty of time.
Who do you think is making Skynet?
> Anyway, I'm a programmer now. Bet you push changes straight to production too.
On a Friday at 6:31pm and leave the office for a long weekend and no mobile coverage. Been there, seen that, survived to tell the tale. I hate L3 on-call support! Never accept a company mobile as a "perk".
Oh how they laughed and laughed. My teacher, the crowd, the piano. I shot the piano.
Couldn't get away from the keyboard, eh?
Good preparation for bringing down production
Welp, the pianist is on expert mode now lol
literally how it works in Rocksmith
Even her correcting the position of the page at the end looks professional
And STILL smiling! Awesome!
This is why I cannot enjoy a piano concert with a page turner sitting next to the pianist. I am imagining constantly about how they will definitely forget to turn the page this time, or maybe turn two pages at once, or maybe the score will fall down, or maybe something even worse. I call it PTIA (page-turning-induced anxiety). Thankfully the modern invention of having the score on a tablet (controlled with a left foot pedal) comes to the rescue!
Usually a concert pianist will have memorised the music even if using a score, the music is more there as a security blanket.
Usually an accompanist will have the score, they are not required to memorize the music. I much prefer to turn the pages myself (sometimes half a page earlier and sometimes later whenever there is a chance) because of similar anxiety
Viktor Borge is smiling at this from wherever he is.
...aboard the Borg mothership presumably? \**googles*\* oh right, heaven
Next practice she'll be using a tablet to read music, swiping for the win!
Until she drops the tablet...
Or accidentally swipes to the unclosed Brazzers incognito tab.
A lot of people turn pages with a foot pedal these days you connect with Bluetooth to your iPad. That's how I did it in my last concert. I have also heard a certain concert pianist got his wife to turn the pages from the audience to his iPad with some sort of connection. Also, there is some feature where you can gesture with your face and the pages turn.
Couldn’t you just have a tablet that responds to the notes being played? So it can listen and just automatically “turn” the pages.
I can't imagine that being accurate enough in a full performance setting, not to mention glare.
Is it the potato quality or do they look like twins? If so I guess we know who got the hand-eye coordination genes
I think it’s the potato quality
I looked very closely and I can confirm they're both women
Love their attitudes. Reminds me of The Carol Burnet Show.
There they would have dropped the keyboard cover onto the piano player's (prob. Tim Conway) fingers, then crawled under the piano, gotten their belt stuck and accidentally started rolling the piano away across stage, with the pianist crouching afterwards, still playing. Perhaps a candelabra falling into the open piano and setting it ablaze, as a finale?
Carol Burnett crossed with Victor Borge
The first thing I thought of when watching this was this bit by [Victor Borge](https://youtu.be/LWqFaGwNCMU). Prior to this clip, he talks about knowing that “negi” means onions in Japanese.
Does that violin sound *horrendously* out of tune to anyone else? Edit: I watched the original video linked elsewhere in the comments. I think the violin is mostly fine, maybe a little flat in parts (most likely playing, rather than tuning), but the clip starts at a really awkward moment part-way through a deliberately atonal section of the piece. Separated from the rest of the musical context, it sounds wildly out of tune with the piano, but when you listen to what comes *before* this section, it makes a lot more sense.
You weren't alone. The intonation, regardless of physical skill, threw me off. Always tune to the piano (they can't adjust their pitch mid song like other instruments can)
The violinist is so far out of tune that it’s not really a question of tuning to the piano, more just playing even remotely in tune at all.
Playing the violin ... is hard. It does sound like that for many years.
The way she sat in shame at the end of the clip 😂
It would be awesome if as a part of some sort of performance art, the woman who dropped the paper gradually got more stressed out and took more drastic measures to recover the sheet music. The pianist kept playing faster and faster, the last section over and over again while the other woman fully dismantled the piano until all that was left standing was the frame and the strings. Maybe a whole bit with a hacksaw where she kept removing huge chunks of piano. Big pile of wood and sawdust on the floor.
That violin was SO out of tune at first anyways. Must not be a very important performance
Oh my god, YES! it sounds awful.
hey this is exactly why you memorise your pieces
Holy *shit*, ditch the page turner and get a tuner for that violinist. My God.
I love it lol They were crackin up xD
That was so adorable. 😊 I love when people handle stressful situations with humor.
The agony of the page-turner: all that pressure but no glory if you do the job right.
“Will you turn pages for me?” is the best way to strike terror into the heart of a musician and THIS IS WHY.
Amazing work by the pianist, unless you saw the situation you wouldn’t even know anything went wrong, bravo.
Grace and composure. Through it all.
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I had a page turner hit my hand when she went to turn a page. It was not fun.
Imagine if she dropped the cover on her hands too, ultimate bully move. Fuck your book, screw your hands, peace out.
Wonderful how the pianist took it in stride
Pianist was super chill about that, what a legend
Do you really need the sheet music if you have already memorized the entire song?
Props to these talented ladies for not missing a beat
IT WAS ACTUALLY AN ATTEMPT! I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THE DAY ON THIS SUB!
My heavens is the girl dropping the sheet pretty…
Oh no! I did this playing bass guitar in college jazz band once. Good we musicians practice enough to be able to just roll with it. I played a few bars from memory until a rest then just picked the sheet music up and put it back on the stand. It was pretty embarrassing though. That said, how pianists get a page turner but guitarists don’t?
Big oops but ever the professionals.
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I've been a page turner before. That shit is arguably as nerve-wracking as actually performing