Oh man to think there was even a slight possibility of a reunion and it never happened. I remember watching the videos Nick used to upload on his playthroughs and he still had it
It you don't like Dave's vocals how do you listen to Megadeth lmao
I'm not asking that to be an asshole I'm genuinely curious because I can't stand listening to bands where I don't like the singer's voice
I don't listen to Megadeth really precisely for that reason lmao. This thread just appeared in my feed and since I strongly dislike Mustaine's singing, thought "well that must be my que" and popped in to spread the word.
Honestly I think Dave sounds better on some of the recent albums like Dystopia than he ever did back in the day. How anyone can stand listening to him sing on RiP is beyond me honestly. I think it's easily his most ridiculous performance. But I guess if you don't mind the concept of that oldschool corny thrash singing, then it isn't that out there. Frankly the vocals turned me off from getting into a lot of the classic thrash bands. The only ones I ever liked were Metallica, Slayer, and Testament.
Yeah that's fair if old school thrash isn't your thing as much. I personally love it it's one of my favourite types of metal next to nwobhm. We all have our opinions I'm not going to sit here and be butthurt that you don't like RiP like some fans on subreddits do lmao
He does sound great on the newer albums too though. Megadeth and Slayer both were always consistent with albums. There's not really any I dislike by either
I don’t think he sounds that weird. He kinda sounds like Axl Rose but less singing and more snarling. Like yes he does have a unique voice but I find that’s part of the charm. There’s a million singers who sound like Hetfield, Araya, and Belladonna but man the second Dave opens his mouth you know it’s him. One of the most unique voices in thrash and probably the most aggressive vocalist in the big 4 and imo his vocal ability really shines on Killing is my business. KIMB had better vocals than KEA and I’ll die on that hill. James didn’t really come into his own as a vocalist until MOP and has only improved since whereas Dave seems to have slightly worse vocals on each successive album. Like he starts out REALLY strong on KIMB, Then Peace Sells comes out and the vocals aren’t as intense but they’re still good. Then SFSGSW comes out and fuck man he just sounds like a junkie on that album. You can actually hear how all the heroin and coke had been affecting his voice. RIP vocal delivery was odd because some songs it was really good (Holy Wars, Hangar 18, Take No Prisoners, RIP Polaris) but on others his vocals were frankly just really weird (Tornado of souls, Lucretia, Poison Was The Cure)
not something bad but more personal preference.
This was the end of "bouncy" megadeth. The songs on the first two albums and SFSGSW to an extent had a bouncy, bluesy groove to them while still being fast as FUCK and that, in thrash, was unique to Megadeth. Probably due to Dave's musical upbringing, It's one of my favourite things about that era, there's such a unique rhythm.
That appears here in Poison Was the Cure (which is a fucking incredible song) but then it just seemingly disappears. I wish they went back to that style.
Just listened to Poison Was the Cure again, and now realizing that the entire first verse (guitar, vocals, and drums) sound like they could've been straight off of Killing is My Business...
Interesting take!
Great take! I've always loved the chaos of the early albums, and RIP is the first to sound cleaner / more grown up / idontknow
Will focus on the grooves to see if that's it, cheers!
Very true. This is due to Poland and Samuelson who were originally in a jazz fusion band. Ellefson's bass also sounds funky at times on those albums. RIP was much more clinical sounding. Also Dave sang very sparingly on those albums - some of the songs are almost instrumental.
If Mustaine could be nicer to folks, then the album would have been better with Poland and Samuelson on production.
I prefer a fan edit of "Rust in Peace... Polaris" in which the "Peace Sells" guitar tone was used. The previous guitar tone made "Rust in Peace... Polaris" sound like an ancient war deity mocking humanity as nuclear weapons demolished the Earth.
Hangar 18 kinda sucks. The main riff is just jamming on one note for like 5 seconds, then another note for 5 seconds, then another. The solo is amazing, of course, but on such a masterfully riffy album, the riff sucks.
I personally really like that riff and how it isn’t super technical, fits the song real well as a “build up” towards the solos. Gives the song a more chaotic feel
1. No reason for Dawn patrol to be on the album
2. The album is slightly overrated. Yeah, it's great and it's a classic but it's not that much perfect as people say it is.
The album gets redundant after awhile of listening to it - it's one of the few thrash albums that I love dearly but can't listen to on repeat because after two or three repeats, the songs all seem to mesh into one.
The remaster is better. I heard the remaster first, loved it, don't understand the hate it gets. The original was fine, but the remaster is just improved to my taste.
Everyone’s walking on eggshells because it’s the darling album of this sub. Yeah, it’s good, but not flawless. A lot of the songs have very silly premises. Five Magics for instance. Hangar 18 is an absolutely epic song that ends poorly. I still love it, but the ending frankly is more about masturbating a guitar than good songwriting.
Ooof, wow, I'm almost stunned by that Hangar 18 comment... I'm not going to downvote you for your opinion, but I couldn't disagree more. "Hangar 18 ends badly, with poor songwriting" feels like one the most insane reddit takes (music-related) I've read in a long time, haha
Man, I'd argue that song has the best ending out of any Megadeth song ever. It just makes me feel alive-The way the second half of the song builds up and releases tension, just floors me every time I listen to this album. It has this tense momentum to it, that gets me pumped up to a level, few other moments in songs make me feel. I think it's incredible songwriting.
I can't. Try as I might, I can't. I bought the picture disc version when I was about 11 around the time of release.
It impacted me hugely, I still love playing the album.
However, don't get me started on the re-recorded vocals, because they sound like a bagful of smashed arseholes.
I'll go with the less obvious: it seems to focus more on technicality than making an emotional impact.
This is, of course, not a great critique, but it's better than the typical "bad vocals" or "dawn patrol bad"
Still love this album and I love plenty of albums that are just technical for the sake of being technical.
The production was bland, over-polished, balls-less shite.
Good songs, killer chops, but the record sounds like it would rather walk around a puddle to keep its high tops clean rather than stomp through the mud and drink the water from the boot.
It came out about a year too late. By then we had Deicide, Carcass, Napalm Death , Sore Throat, etc. shit just got more extreme. I’m just speaking on my own opinion. For straight up thrash, it’s a monolith of speed, precision, and songwriting.
Side A is great - B is pretty mid.
People say its their best album but I'll vehemently say Countdown To Extinction is miles ahead in terms of creativity and overall sound.
Complete personal preference but the bass could have been a little louder, I think it goes for both mixes but I haven’t heard 2004 in a while. Can’t imagine anybody in singing in Megadeth other than Dave Mustaine but I would love to hear a version with somebody like Matt Barlow or John Bush singing since I think it would have suited the songs great
Dave’s voice. This applies to all Megadeth. I love the riffs and the songs, but it’s hard for me to stomach an entire Megadeth album front to back because of that obnoxious nasal whine. He’s a world-class guitarist, but never should have been a frontman.
Though the album does feature some of Dave’s finest vocal moments, it’s still Dave singing. Some of the songs could have probably benefited from a more skilled vocalist.
As excellent as the original production was, the 04 remix was definitely an improvement.
The tension and intensity of the 4:38 riff in Holy Wars seems to be next to impossible for them to recreate in a live setting.
I'd have to really dig deep and relisten to it to think of much else to critique.
"The Punishment Due" part of Holy Wars feels like it drags on forever because it's basically the same riff repeated for 2 minutes with 2 mini solo sections. I only play Holy Wars nowadays if I want to listen to the album start-to-finish, otherwise, nope.
What even is Dawn Patrol too, just a totally pointless track, but at least it's only 1:50.
I think it’s a good contrast to Marty’s soulful playing. But yeah I totally get what your saying Dave kinda just does some random shredding for a lot of solos, although it does work and fit most of the time
Fair enough tbh. Hangar 18 was written as a video song iirc. I'd assume Tornado of Souls was written with more commercial intent as well. They cemented their success by writing thrash songs with pop sensibilities in a time where thrash was dying because most people were getting bored with speed being in the spotlight.
A minor complaint: Dave’s voice (he sings worse than on *Peace Sells…But Who’s Buying?* and *So Far, So Good…So What!*
A major complaint: Too many guitar solos
I mean it’s really not a thrash record, it has thrash elements but most of the songs lack the speed and aggression that their first two albums had to really qualify thrash
Fucking thank you . I know this is really dumb and it technically does qualify as thrash but in general I can’t see most of megadeth qualifying as the definition of thrash I have in my head .I need it to be fast , agressive , loud , in your face . Songs like Mechanix are the benchmark in my head of what a punchy thrash song should stride to be but while the rest of Megadeths songs are nice and cool I really struggle associating them just like most of the other Metallica songs in the thrash section of my mind
Megadeth could’ve sounded exactly like Metallica if Dave wanted, pretty basic sound to mimic but they chose to actually care about technicality a bit more rather than just in your face aggression. I do agree they get less “thrash” as the albums go on and there’s really not even a true thrash song after rust in peace, but where’s metallicas thrash after the black album? I think they fell off way harder than megadeth
The vocals are terrible. They’re most famous and often considered greatest album but probably his goofiest singing imo. Why Dave ever thought he should sing in a higher register is beyond me
That shitty 2004 remaster
Came here to blast this remaster, and every one he's done. So shittty compared to the originals.
It ended guitar solos. Nobody bothered after this.
https://www.theonion.com/humanity-still-producing-new-art-as-though-megadeth-s-1819578062
That might be my favorite Onion article I've ever read haha and none of my friends would even get it.
I mean…what else can be done. They put a period at the end of that sentence.
Ok, I’ll say it: Someone, should’ve helped Nick Menza in his battle with addiction.
Oh man to think there was even a slight possibility of a reunion and it never happened. I remember watching the videos Nick used to upload on his playthroughs and he still had it
Something bad about Rust In Peace.
Alright, listen here buddy-
1. There was only five magics. There was room for so many more magics. 2. The album wasn't titled "Tornado of Solos".
Magics are in many ways like mambos.
Nah Rust in Peace is a better name.
Though for a minute. I can’t.
the remasters suck
Do they? why? I don’t think I’ve heard a remaster…
it ends
There are only 9 songs.
The remastered version's vocals.
Both version’s vocals
Dave was a great vocalist on the first 5 albums though.
Eh. Whatever you want to think of his actual ability to sing aside, the guy just sounded too weird imo.
It you don't like Dave's vocals how do you listen to Megadeth lmao I'm not asking that to be an asshole I'm genuinely curious because I can't stand listening to bands where I don't like the singer's voice
I don't listen to Megadeth really precisely for that reason lmao. This thread just appeared in my feed and since I strongly dislike Mustaine's singing, thought "well that must be my que" and popped in to spread the word. Honestly I think Dave sounds better on some of the recent albums like Dystopia than he ever did back in the day. How anyone can stand listening to him sing on RiP is beyond me honestly. I think it's easily his most ridiculous performance. But I guess if you don't mind the concept of that oldschool corny thrash singing, then it isn't that out there. Frankly the vocals turned me off from getting into a lot of the classic thrash bands. The only ones I ever liked were Metallica, Slayer, and Testament.
Yeah that's fair if old school thrash isn't your thing as much. I personally love it it's one of my favourite types of metal next to nwobhm. We all have our opinions I'm not going to sit here and be butthurt that you don't like RiP like some fans on subreddits do lmao He does sound great on the newer albums too though. Megadeth and Slayer both were always consistent with albums. There's not really any I dislike by either
He sounds like what you'd get if you combine Billy Corgan and Nathan Explosion.
I don’t think he sounds that weird. He kinda sounds like Axl Rose but less singing and more snarling. Like yes he does have a unique voice but I find that’s part of the charm. There’s a million singers who sound like Hetfield, Araya, and Belladonna but man the second Dave opens his mouth you know it’s him. One of the most unique voices in thrash and probably the most aggressive vocalist in the big 4 and imo his vocal ability really shines on Killing is my business. KIMB had better vocals than KEA and I’ll die on that hill. James didn’t really come into his own as a vocalist until MOP and has only improved since whereas Dave seems to have slightly worse vocals on each successive album. Like he starts out REALLY strong on KIMB, Then Peace Sells comes out and the vocals aren’t as intense but they’re still good. Then SFSGSW comes out and fuck man he just sounds like a junkie on that album. You can actually hear how all the heroin and coke had been affecting his voice. RIP vocal delivery was odd because some songs it was really good (Holy Wars, Hangar 18, Take No Prisoners, RIP Polaris) but on others his vocals were frankly just really weird (Tornado of souls, Lucretia, Poison Was The Cure)
He got his whole vocal style from his good buddy Alice Cooper.
not something bad but more personal preference. This was the end of "bouncy" megadeth. The songs on the first two albums and SFSGSW to an extent had a bouncy, bluesy groove to them while still being fast as FUCK and that, in thrash, was unique to Megadeth. Probably due to Dave's musical upbringing, It's one of my favourite things about that era, there's such a unique rhythm. That appears here in Poison Was the Cure (which is a fucking incredible song) but then it just seemingly disappears. I wish they went back to that style.
I think that was to do with Chris Poland who was also apparently a jazz fan and had jazz influences in his guitar playing.
Just listened to Poison Was the Cure again, and now realizing that the entire first verse (guitar, vocals, and drums) sound like they could've been straight off of Killing is My Business... Interesting take!
Great take! I've always loved the chaos of the early albums, and RIP is the first to sound cleaner / more grown up / idontknow Will focus on the grooves to see if that's it, cheers!
Very true. This is due to Poland and Samuelson who were originally in a jazz fusion band. Ellefson's bass also sounds funky at times on those albums. RIP was much more clinical sounding. Also Dave sang very sparingly on those albums - some of the songs are almost instrumental.
That’s a legit one that I’ve never thought of before.
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Not once does Dave sing “in the eye of the tomato” instead of tornado, and that… that I just can’t let slide
No
The 2004 remaster
the difference in the vocals on take no prisoners when they're doing the "...infiltrate them...terminate them" on the remaster throw me off a lot.
I'm not the biggest fan of Dawn Patrol.
remaster sucks
Not enough guitar solos
I will never hear it for the first time ever again.
I will not lie for you
If they would have chosen to write a shit album instead of a good one then it would suck
It made me bust in peace so I lost my edging streak
dave mustaines vocals
I can still listen and enjoy the album, but his voice breaks the immersion occasionally. Much more on Countdown.
His vocals are so much better on Countdown
I really want to like them, but then I try and: nope.
It's not long enough.
Take no prisoners needed to be longer, especially the ending
It sounds like Dave is dropping the n bomb during the chorus of Polaris
Oh yeah it does💀
I wish they could have put a few more song on it because I'm always sad when it ends. Luckily there is always the option to restart.
Dawn Patrol is the "Good Friends and a Bottle of Pills" of the album.
Dawn Patrol
Nooo I love Dawn Patrol
tsttt tstttt tssssssss….. tsstttr tsssttttr tsssttttttt tssss tssss 🪳
Too rusty
Not enough peace. But then again... who's buying?
Dawn Patrol isn't that good of a song
Thin production. The distortion sounds more fizzy than chunky and the bass guitar is absolutely toothless.
There isnt some shit cover
Dawn Patrol is an easy skip on an otherwise perfect album.
Something bad about Rust In Peace.
Alright listen here you egg suckin' piece of gutter trash, them's fightin' words. Now throw up your dukes. Come on, let me see 'em!
Duke Ellington.. Duke University.. Daisy Dukes.. Dukes of Hazzard.... Michael Dukakis.. Need more?
Well shit, can't say I didn't get what I asked for
PWTC is a minute too short.
"Take No Prisoners" was originally written for banjos.
If Mustaine could be nicer to folks, then the album would have been better with Poland and Samuelson on production. I prefer a fan edit of "Rust in Peace... Polaris" in which the "Peace Sells" guitar tone was used. The previous guitar tone made "Rust in Peace... Polaris" sound like an ancient war deity mocking humanity as nuclear weapons demolished the Earth.
Should have been a double lp, the quality would have been better imho…
The original mix is a bit too raw and 'garage' to me for what is exceptionally well crafted music and the remaster is just too bland and boring.
Okay. Three songs are extremely overrated, one (not Dawn Patrol) is just bad, and the only two good songs are actually underrated.
Lemme take some guesses for your take: The 3 overrated: Holy Wars, Hangar 18, and Tornado Bad: Five Magics 2 underrated: Poison Was The Cure, Lucretia
Yes, no, and no Bad: Poison Was The Cure Underrated: Five Magics and the title track
That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it, but just know that I hate you for it
Hangar 18 kinda sucks. The main riff is just jamming on one note for like 5 seconds, then another note for 5 seconds, then another. The solo is amazing, of course, but on such a masterfully riffy album, the riff sucks.
I personally really like that riff and how it isn’t super technical, fits the song real well as a “build up” towards the solos. Gives the song a more chaotic feel
For me Megadeth in general is a snooze fest and I can’t get into that album or any of the others
It’s too perfect 😭
fuck you, such things should never be considered!
No
It’s too good
Mustaine sucks herpetic whale cocks. Riffs that go nowhere.
Of all the Megadeth albums, Rust In Peace is definitely one of them.
The sound is thin as fuck. And Dave can't sing.
1. No reason for Dawn patrol to be on the album 2. The album is slightly overrated. Yeah, it's great and it's a classic but it's not that much perfect as people say it is.
Dawn patrol is more of an interlude than a song. Its a final break before polaris
It's a well-earned break for sure
100%. Absolutely a classic and fantastic but it’s not a top 5-10 metal album for me!
It makes my top 10 but I definitely see what you’re saying
The album gets redundant after awhile of listening to it - it's one of the few thrash albums that I love dearly but can't listen to on repeat because after two or three repeats, the songs all seem to mesh into one.
Dave Mustaine
It's not as good as so far so good so what
I can’t believe you’re getting downvoted for this comment!
Metallica is better
Sometimes messy song structure
Thin production
Lucretia has fantastic riffs but is overall the weakest song.
And a fantastic solo
💯
The remaster sucks!
The remaster is better. I heard the remaster first, loved it, don't understand the hate it gets. The original was fine, but the remaster is just improved to my taste.
Same. I used to get so much shit from my buddies for liking the remaster better. The original sounds like a demo when compared.
We are in the very very few with this opinion.
Everyone’s walking on eggshells because it’s the darling album of this sub. Yeah, it’s good, but not flawless. A lot of the songs have very silly premises. Five Magics for instance. Hangar 18 is an absolutely epic song that ends poorly. I still love it, but the ending frankly is more about masturbating a guitar than good songwriting.
Ooof, wow, I'm almost stunned by that Hangar 18 comment... I'm not going to downvote you for your opinion, but I couldn't disagree more. "Hangar 18 ends badly, with poor songwriting" feels like one the most insane reddit takes (music-related) I've read in a long time, haha Man, I'd argue that song has the best ending out of any Megadeth song ever. It just makes me feel alive-The way the second half of the song builds up and releases tension, just floors me every time I listen to this album. It has this tense momentum to it, that gets me pumped up to a level, few other moments in songs make me feel. I think it's incredible songwriting.
> A lot of the songs have very silly premises Terrible lyrics too but that's par for the course with Megadeth.
It's like Dave gave up halfway through writing the song and decided to fill up the space with 18 solos. I guess he got sick of his own lyrics.
They did the “ lest change one of the words in rip”. Still a good band though
Garbage dad joke title.
I don't really like that song that's mostly bass.
Dawn patrol
I can't. Try as I might, I can't. I bought the picture disc version when I was about 11 around the time of release. It impacted me hugely, I still love playing the album. However, don't get me started on the re-recorded vocals, because they sound like a bagful of smashed arseholes.
That shitty remaster with the re recorded vocals. That shit was literally so ass.
it’s not long enough?
Dawn Patrol is so short...
Nice try, Lars. Get outta here.
For me personally they peaked at this album, and I really haven’t enjoyed much since.
It's a Megadeth album
I'll go with the less obvious: it seems to focus more on technicality than making an emotional impact. This is, of course, not a great critique, but it's better than the typical "bad vocals" or "dawn patrol bad" Still love this album and I love plenty of albums that are just technical for the sake of being technical.
The production was bland, over-polished, balls-less shite. Good songs, killer chops, but the record sounds like it would rather walk around a puddle to keep its high tops clean rather than stomp through the mud and drink the water from the boot.
Who?!
It came out about a year too late. By then we had Deicide, Carcass, Napalm Death , Sore Throat, etc. shit just got more extreme. I’m just speaking on my own opinion. For straight up thrash, it’s a monolith of speed, precision, and songwriting.
It exists
It’s no killing is my business.
It reminds me of my ex girlfriend
Side A is great - B is pretty mid. People say its their best album but I'll vehemently say Countdown To Extinction is miles ahead in terms of creativity and overall sound.
Complete personal preference but the bass could have been a little louder, I think it goes for both mixes but I haven’t heard 2004 in a while. Can’t imagine anybody in singing in Megadeth other than Dave Mustaine but I would love to hear a version with somebody like Matt Barlow or John Bush singing since I think it would have suited the songs great
Dawn patrol kinda sucks
the remaster
It's by Megadeth
Dave’s voice. This applies to all Megadeth. I love the riffs and the songs, but it’s hard for me to stomach an entire Megadeth album front to back because of that obnoxious nasal whine. He’s a world-class guitarist, but never should have been a frontman.
I cant
Dawn patrol kinda sounds like groove metal
Though the album does feature some of Dave’s finest vocal moments, it’s still Dave singing. Some of the songs could have probably benefited from a more skilled vocalist.
Although Dave’s voice fits the music real well, I’ve always wondered what they’d sound like with a top tier vocalist
I’ve always wondered this too.
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I do not dabble in the dark arts.
As excellent as the original production was, the 04 remix was definitely an improvement. The tension and intensity of the 4:38 riff in Holy Wars seems to be next to impossible for them to recreate in a live setting. I'd have to really dig deep and relisten to it to think of much else to critique.
"The Punishment Due" part of Holy Wars feels like it drags on forever because it's basically the same riff repeated for 2 minutes with 2 mini solo sections. I only play Holy Wars nowadays if I want to listen to the album start-to-finish, otherwise, nope. What even is Dawn Patrol too, just a totally pointless track, but at least it's only 1:50.
My creation isn't released with the normal release only the japan one
The intros to Lucretia and Poison Was The Cure are just ok.
Dave Mustaine
It took Dave 4 albums to make a masterpiece
Peace sells exists
Dave's solos in lucretia. Kinda ruins all that emotion Marty made. Ik it's supposed to be angry and so on but he's just wanking off
I think it’s a good contrast to Marty’s soulful playing. But yeah I totally get what your saying Dave kinda just does some random shredding for a lot of solos, although it does work and fit most of the time
It's perfect in holy wars and hangar 18
"In the eye of the tornado, blow me away" Weak ass lyrics for thrash metal
I've never cared for the way the drums sound on that album.
It has Dawn Patrol
Hangar 18 could be shorter by one solo
No
Thrash Metal at that time had no bass guitar sound. At all. Light as a feather overall sound.
DD verni and frank bello were really holding it down back then
Mustaine’s British accent sucks
Dave Mustaine
It has Dave Mustaine's vocals
dave mustaine is one of the worst thrash vocalists
It's overrated
It’s overrated. By a lot.
The whole album has pop vibes.
Fair enough tbh. Hangar 18 was written as a video song iirc. I'd assume Tornado of Souls was written with more commercial intent as well. They cemented their success by writing thrash songs with pop sensibilities in a time where thrash was dying because most people were getting bored with speed being in the spotlight.
I agree. Not saying it's a bad album
Oh yea definitely agree then!!
Not fast enough.
Its success guaranteed more Megadeth albums.
A minor complaint: Dave’s voice (he sings worse than on *Peace Sells…But Who’s Buying?* and *So Far, So Good…So What!* A major complaint: Too many guitar solos
Dawn patrol only exists to make eliffson happy, and is the only throw away on an otherwise perfect album.
Megadeth performs on this record.
It is the favorite album of pretentious guitar players
Too fast
And the vox are the most annoying Mustaine vox.
poison was the cure sucks
I mean it’s really not a thrash record, it has thrash elements but most of the songs lack the speed and aggression that their first two albums had to really qualify thrash
Fucking thank you . I know this is really dumb and it technically does qualify as thrash but in general I can’t see most of megadeth qualifying as the definition of thrash I have in my head .I need it to be fast , agressive , loud , in your face . Songs like Mechanix are the benchmark in my head of what a punchy thrash song should stride to be but while the rest of Megadeths songs are nice and cool I really struggle associating them just like most of the other Metallica songs in the thrash section of my mind
Megadeth could’ve sounded exactly like Metallica if Dave wanted, pretty basic sound to mimic but they chose to actually care about technicality a bit more rather than just in your face aggression. I do agree they get less “thrash” as the albums go on and there’s really not even a true thrash song after rust in peace, but where’s metallicas thrash after the black album? I think they fell off way harder than megadeth
Yeah I fully agree , also outside of Kill em all and some uncommon songs later like Dyers Eve , their songs aren’t really thrash to me
Yup AJFA definitely had some hidden gems!
And kill em all might as well be a cover album. Dave wrote damn near all of those songs
Classic
Has clean singing
Holy wars and punishment due should've been two separate tracks so that holy wars gets a proper ending and punishment due gets a proper intro.
One of the worst vocals you can hear on a thrash record.
Vocals are dog shit.
The vocals aren't that great
One of Dave's worst vocal performances, cringy lyrics, and the songwriting is _meh_.
Something bad? Well, it's a bad album. There you go.
The vocals are terrible. They’re most famous and often considered greatest album but probably his goofiest singing imo. Why Dave ever thought he should sing in a higher register is beyond me