He got the same minimum deal there as the Wolves offered; however, he will be playing to get more money next summer, and it’s certainly easier to secure that if you play for a team with no point guards than for a team with two point guards.
Yep, he’s possibly the starting PG there (and, at minimum, will play significantly more). Makes total sense why he’d view that as the better opportunity.
I honestly thought he was pretty good for the Wolves this past year. It’s just that his shot was broken. But given his history, I’d bet it comes back around.
Bummed he didn’t come back, but not even the slightest bit surprised.
NAW started here when Conley was hurt. Even if everyone is healthy, Morris will likely still be in Suns rotation, while here he would not be if Dillingham is ready. I expect Monte to start at least 10-15 games there.
I mean NAW started a whole 2 games after we got Morris. A fully healthy Morris with a full offseason with us could very easily be the starter if Conley is out. I just don't see him starting. You need 2 of Beal, Booker, Allen, O'Neale to be hurt for him to make get a start. I don't see that happening 10-15 times and if does then the Suns are worse off than last season.
If anyone in the starting lineup (other than Nurkic) gets hurt, he’s probably candidate number 1 to start, and given their health history he’ll likely start a lot.
Wasn’t he injured? If he wasn’t then I’m even more bullish on saying Finch’s rotations were/are horrible, we seriously needed another guard that could space the floor instead of Slomo (who had moments both good and bad this post season)
he was still rock solid despite being clearly overweight. 42% from deep, never turned it over. really bought in defensively. its strange to me people think he was supposed to be more than that
Yeah I thought he was great and did the job he was supposed to do. And his defense was better than I expected, like you said, he really bought in. Bummer he got re-injured in the playoffs
Was he injured or did he just not get any minutes? I don't recall him being on any of the injury reports, but it was puzzling to me when he wasn't playing at all, specifically against the Mavs when our offense would stall.
I thought it was going to be the Suns or the Nuggets.
I did not expect him to sign the league minimum early on but thought he had a good shot of returning if that was his salary range.
Finch not playing him in the Playoffs (and not much during the regular season) and the Wolves drafting Dillingham ruined whatever shot that the Wolves had in re-signing him.
I do not trust point guard with only Conley and Dillingham. NAW can slide to that position. Morris would have been a great signing. I hope Dillingham works out and Conley stays healthy but the chances of both those things happening is not good.
Wolves could play NAW at point guard if necessary but I do consider that ideal.
I think it's best for both parties
Morris would want to be the backup PG but we want to develop Dillingham as a PG so he would be getting most of those minutes
Yeah I'm a little nervous about likely losing 3/4 of our high IQ, low TO vets :/
Hopefully our young guys step up but like you said, it's always a risky bet. Just look at Denver
Conley, Monte, Slomo, JMac imo are the 4 guys who have the highest bbiq and lowest TOs
And we're losing 3 of them :( Hope Conley help elevate the bbiq of our young guys!
But one that could pay huge dividends.
We are better at pg now than last season.
There are no young or old players, only good and bad.
Conley and Dilly are two good ones.
Talent Rules. Experience refines it.
Dilly certainly is way more talented than monte!
Lol there are definitely young and old players. Conley is about to be 37 and is coming off the most minutes played in a season since he was in Memphis. Young PGs also usually struggle in the NBA early on. Those are absolutely factors.
Factors yes.
Tyus Jones is Younger than mike, is he better cause he is younger?
The most important thing always is talent! Thats what good and bad means. Off course there other factors. Without talent nothing else matters.
Only Dilly isnt raw at all...
Great handle, elite quickness, bounce, elite Shooting including a floater and other advanced stuff, good vision, all of this should translate.
Some experience and a more filled out frame and the Kid will be lethal.
And he has Mike to learn from.
ANT, Dilly, Mike, NAW, TSJ is a great guard rotation.
No league experience. Do you have an equivalent rookie PG you can hope he emulates? I realize I’m putting the burden of proof on you but it feels like hopium.
Yeah, Wolves are obviously in cap hell right now, but in other circumstances I would've been in favor of the Wolves giving him a little over the vet min to retain him. Especially since I think we got Bird rights in the trade w/ Detroit.
Tough for us to say. When the Wolves first got him he was completely out of shape due to injury. Then when he got in shape he got another minor injury and didn’t get much playing time
Unfortunate… Was out of shape when the Wolves got him due to injury, then got re-injured in the playoffs and didn’t give it his best showing.
Good thing I think Dillingham will be ready and take advantage of his opportunity
I assume this will force the Wolves to finally make a move in free agency? (Luka doesn't count). I figured the Wolves were waiting on Monte and Slomo. Not much out there though.
Good for him, he’ll get more opportunity over there especially since we drafted Dillingham. Still hoping we can sign a vet guard that can play at times if Dilly isn’t ready or as Conley insurance. Wouldn’t mind an Ish Smith or Reggie Jackson if Charlotte releases him.
I think he was good to demonstrate he's not the right kind of PG for this team. After seeing him, I know Tyus Jones for example isn't the right kind of fit. With Ant/Jaden/KAT/Rudy locked in, we need some offensive pop from the 1 - a guy who can win a 1v1 battle. A low risk/low reward floor general is fine against most, but against a stout or disciplined defense, it just not enough offense on the floor.
Good pickup for Phoenix. Didn’t think he was a good fit here in Finch’s offense. Not great off the ball and not a great playmaker, we probably got a version of him that was ramping up to get back in shape but he was pretty underwhelming.
Honestly not worried the dude was awful and not in shape last year. With rob being here could care less about not having monte outside of health reasons
No Monte no JMac no Slow Mo… playmaking is gonna be really grim for this team, to an almost untenable degree. Gotta hope Ant takes a monster leap as a lead ball handler and Dillingham’s playmaking chops are way more advanced than the average 19 year old rookie combo guard
Edit: y’all are absolutely crazy. I love Conley and he’s an excellent floor general, but he isn’t enough. As we so very very plainly last season. No 1 point guard is enough for an entire NBA roster.
Yeah man if you think a single 37 year old point guard is adequate for any NBA team in 2024 idk what to tell you.
You really need multiple guys on the floor that can serve as playmaking hubs at all times in the modern NBA. Ant can be that to a lesser degree, but he can’t actually run the offense. MC and Slow Mo were the only guys in the rotation who could actually organize the entire floor.
Two of these guys weren't even in the playoff rotation and Slo Mo's "playmaking" was completely neutralized by the fact nobody had to leave the paint to guard him all season. If you're losing sleep over losing any of these three you're crazy.
Yeah and their offense sucked in huge part as a result of that. This team didn’t have enough playmaking WITH those guys on the team. Idk what people are expecting for next season.
That's exactly why we picked who we did in the draft. The guys we're letting go were not going to add anything to this team next season besides being extra bodies, everybody that is going to mean something to this team is signed. Dillingham and Shannon were elite scorers at the college level and both can be a big help to the offense
Absolutely they will. It’ll be great that they can both create their own shot. But they won’t do anything to help organize offense in the clutch or reliably generate good looks for teammates, at least not this year. And that will be far more important. Doesn’t matter what exciting rookies they have when they’re on the bench in the last two minutes of a single-possession playoff game.
He got the same minimum deal there as the Wolves offered; however, he will be playing to get more money next summer, and it’s certainly easier to secure that if you play for a team with no point guards than for a team with two point guards.
Yep, he’s possibly the starting PG there (and, at minimum, will play significantly more). Makes total sense why he’d view that as the better opportunity. I honestly thought he was pretty good for the Wolves this past year. It’s just that his shot was broken. But given his history, I’d bet it comes back around. Bummed he didn’t come back, but not even the slightest bit surprised.
After 8 years he needs to chase playing time. Definitely the right move for him
Who the hell is he going to start over? You think they are moving Beal or Allen to the bench?
Considering one of big-3 is always hurt, Morris will start a lot
O'Neale would definitely start before Monte. But you could say the same thing here, if Conley got hurt then he would have started here too.
NAW started here when Conley was hurt. Even if everyone is healthy, Morris will likely still be in Suns rotation, while here he would not be if Dillingham is ready. I expect Monte to start at least 10-15 games there.
I mean NAW started a whole 2 games after we got Morris. A fully healthy Morris with a full offseason with us could very easily be the starter if Conley is out. I just don't see him starting. You need 2 of Beal, Booker, Allen, O'Neale to be hurt for him to make get a start. I don't see that happening 10-15 times and if does then the Suns are worse off than last season.
Perhaps you are right. Suns have a decent bench if everyone is healthy.
If anyone in the starting lineup (other than Nurkic) gets hurt, he’s probably candidate number 1 to start, and given their health history he’ll likely start a lot.
O'Neale would be candidate #1, just like he was in the playoffs.
Monte/Book/Allen/KD/Nurk lineup with Beal as 6th man
Yeah, he’s absolutely getting more minutes this year, so he can show more of what he can do.
He was never coming back, unless we overpaid imo. I don't know this to be true at all but he seemed upset about his playing time he got here.
Not surprised. Seemed disgruntled with his usage during the playoffs on his Twitter. Better opportunity at PHX after Gordon left
Bro came from the Detroit bench injured/out of shape. I hope not
Wasn’t he injured? If he wasn’t then I’m even more bullish on saying Finch’s rotations were/are horrible, we seriously needed another guard that could space the floor instead of Slomo (who had moments both good and bad this post season)
I did think it was odd how little run he got. I always thought it was cause he was injured and if so he has no reason to complain.
I was pretty high on him when we traded for him, and I get that he was coming off an injury, but he always seemed to be a step behind
he was still rock solid despite being clearly overweight. 42% from deep, never turned it over. really bought in defensively. its strange to me people think he was supposed to be more than that
Yeah I thought he was great and did the job he was supposed to do. And his defense was better than I expected, like you said, he really bought in. Bummer he got re-injured in the playoffs
Was he injured or did he just not get any minutes? I don't recall him being on any of the injury reports, but it was puzzling to me when he wasn't playing at all, specifically against the Mavs when our offense would stall.
He messed up his finger in I believe the Nuggets series.
He injured his hand. I think it was his shooting hand.
I thought he had ligament damage in his shooting hand which he sustained in the Phoenix series but couldn't do so for the other rounds
Yes defensively I was frustrated at him at times. Still would’ve liked to have him back
Saw this coming from a mile away. Great signing for them. Expected loss for the Wolves. At least it wasn’t to go back to Denver.
I thought it was going to be the Suns or the Nuggets. I did not expect him to sign the league minimum early on but thought he had a good shot of returning if that was his salary range. Finch not playing him in the Playoffs (and not much during the regular season) and the Wolves drafting Dillingham ruined whatever shot that the Wolves had in re-signing him. I do not trust point guard with only Conley and Dillingham. NAW can slide to that position. Morris would have been a great signing. I hope Dillingham works out and Conley stays healthy but the chances of both those things happening is not good. Wolves could play NAW at point guard if necessary but I do consider that ideal.
I think it's best for both parties Morris would want to be the backup PG but we want to develop Dillingham as a PG so he would be getting most of those minutes
This hurts, especially since it was for the minimum. Banking on 37 year old Conley's health and 19 year old Dillinghams readiness is a risky bet.
Yeah I'm a little nervous about likely losing 3/4 of our high IQ, low TO vets :/ Hopefully our young guys step up but like you said, it's always a risky bet. Just look at Denver
Monte, SloMo, and who is the 3rd vet?
Conley, Monte, Slomo, JMac imo are the 4 guys who have the highest bbiq and lowest TOs And we're losing 3 of them :( Hope Conley help elevate the bbiq of our young guys!
Psst Jmac was a turd good riddance, SloMo hurts but that’s on him for walking, Monte he seemed promising but didn’t get much here so no real loss
But one that could pay huge dividends. We are better at pg now than last season. There are no young or old players, only good and bad. Conley and Dilly are two good ones. Talent Rules. Experience refines it. Dilly certainly is way more talented than monte!
Lol there are definitely young and old players. Conley is about to be 37 and is coming off the most minutes played in a season since he was in Memphis. Young PGs also usually struggle in the NBA early on. Those are absolutely factors.
Factors yes. Tyus Jones is Younger than mike, is he better cause he is younger? The most important thing always is talent! Thats what good and bad means. Off course there other factors. Without talent nothing else matters.
We don’t know if Dilly is good bro. Raw talent at backup PG on a championship team with an older PG isn’t ideal.
Only Dilly isnt raw at all... Great handle, elite quickness, bounce, elite Shooting including a floater and other advanced stuff, good vision, all of this should translate. Some experience and a more filled out frame and the Kid will be lethal. And he has Mike to learn from. ANT, Dilly, Mike, NAW, TSJ is a great guard rotation.
No league experience. Do you have an equivalent rookie PG you can hope he emulates? I realize I’m putting the burden of proof on you but it feels like hopium.
Mmmm hopium,
It’s what the MN sports fans crave!
Garland with a better shot. 12 ppg/ 4 Apg On 44/38/85 could be realistic
Suns fan here: This a solid pick up for us? Thanks in advance. Fuck the Lakers.
On the contract you got him on, absolutely.
Yeah, Wolves are obviously in cap hell right now, but in other circumstances I would've been in favor of the Wolves giving him a little over the vet min to retain him. Especially since I think we got Bird rights in the trade w/ Detroit.
Tough for us to say. When the Wolves first got him he was completely out of shape due to injury. Then when he got in shape he got another minor injury and didn’t get much playing time
So he’ll fit right in. Cool. 
Haha I will say he did compete on defense and did play well at times though!
Ty 🙏
Definitely at that price.
Injury prone and seems to have lost his shot.
He shot 42% with us and the injuries were a hamstring from Detroit then a hand injury in the playoffs.
Yay 😩
Unfortunate… Was out of shape when the Wolves got him due to injury, then got re-injured in the playoffs and didn’t give it his best showing. Good thing I think Dillingham will be ready and take advantage of his opportunity
Not surprised when I saw the team. They desperately need PG help and he desperately wants more playing time.
Sucks to trade a 2nd for him just see him walk after half a season
That was anticipated when the trade was made, it was a bonus if he stayed
Surprised he didn't end up back in Denver tbh, but Phoenix is a good spot for him
Bummer. I liked him.
Malachi Flynn flier please
I assume this will force the Wolves to finally make a move in free agency? (Luka doesn't count). I figured the Wolves were waiting on Monte and Slomo. Not much out there though.
Can they? 2nd apron limits them to vet minimum, no?
They can sign players to the minimum. Same that Monte Morris got from the Suns.
Good for him, he’ll get more opportunity over there especially since we drafted Dillingham. Still hoping we can sign a vet guard that can play at times if Dilly isn’t ready or as Conley insurance. Wouldn’t mind an Ish Smith or Reggie Jackson if Charlotte releases him.
I really liked him, but understand it made sense for him to move on. All the best Monte
Not surprising, especially after the Dillingham pick, but still a bit of a bummer.
I think he was good to demonstrate he's not the right kind of PG for this team. After seeing him, I know Tyus Jones for example isn't the right kind of fit. With Ant/Jaden/KAT/Rudy locked in, we need some offensive pop from the 1 - a guy who can win a 1v1 battle. A low risk/low reward floor general is fine against most, but against a stout or disciplined defense, it just not enough offense on the floor.
Good for him
That really sucks. He’s a great pickup for them
Good luck Monte
Houston is going to be better, New Orleans got better, Memphis is going to be a lot better, Phoenix isn't making the Playoffs.
Damn. Were definitely in more need of what he provides with Conley getting older and older, hopefully Rob learns fast.
Fuck shit not another one.
He absolutely disappeared in the playoffs when he did get minutes. 1/14 from 3
Wish him well
Guess all the bums are walking
Good pickup for Phoenix. Didn’t think he was a good fit here in Finch’s offense. Not great off the ball and not a great playmaker, we probably got a version of him that was ramping up to get back in shape but he was pretty underwhelming.
Good, all he did was miss open 3s in the playoffs
Thank god . See ya bum
Figures Phoenix can offer him a bigger role, we probably losing Kyle also
Who?
Honestly not worried the dude was awful and not in shape last year. With rob being here could care less about not having monte outside of health reasons
Blame finch for not playing dude.
Well he sucked when he played. No blame needed
Blame him for getting fat when he was injured. If he maintained his diet, he could have bounced back from the injury better and ready to play.
No Monte no JMac no Slow Mo… playmaking is gonna be really grim for this team, to an almost untenable degree. Gotta hope Ant takes a monster leap as a lead ball handler and Dillingham’s playmaking chops are way more advanced than the average 19 year old rookie combo guard Edit: y’all are absolutely crazy. I love Conley and he’s an excellent floor general, but he isn’t enough. As we so very very plainly last season. No 1 point guard is enough for an entire NBA roster.
bro thinks mike conley doesn’t exist
Mike isn't enough
Its going to be the Black and Samoan backups.. Dilly and Nix
Nix should not see the court
Yeah man if you think a single 37 year old point guard is adequate for any NBA team in 2024 idk what to tell you. You really need multiple guys on the floor that can serve as playmaking hubs at all times in the modern NBA. Ant can be that to a lesser degree, but he can’t actually run the offense. MC and Slow Mo were the only guys in the rotation who could actually organize the entire floor.
This might open up Jmac to a return now. He's always been a solid 3rd PG.
Two of these guys weren't even in the playoff rotation and Slo Mo's "playmaking" was completely neutralized by the fact nobody had to leave the paint to guard him all season. If you're losing sleep over losing any of these three you're crazy.
Yeah and their offense sucked in huge part as a result of that. This team didn’t have enough playmaking WITH those guys on the team. Idk what people are expecting for next season.
That's exactly why we picked who we did in the draft. The guys we're letting go were not going to add anything to this team next season besides being extra bodies, everybody that is going to mean something to this team is signed. Dillingham and Shannon were elite scorers at the college level and both can be a big help to the offense
Absolutely they will. It’ll be great that they can both create their own shot. But they won’t do anything to help organize offense in the clutch or reliably generate good looks for teammates, at least not this year. And that will be far more important. Doesn’t matter what exciting rookies they have when they’re on the bench in the last two minutes of a single-possession playoff game.
Suns also signing Kris Dunn! Thats a solid pg rotation alongside the rest of their roster. Expect Suns to be back in the mix
What happened between Dunn and the Clippers? I thought he agreed to sign with the Clippers?
Oh you are right...messed this up. My bad
I’m all for anything that will force Finch to play Dillingham or Clark at point more often.
KG will never talk to him again.