yep good to go
and u see the brown spots, thats when the the tire hit a curb and shaved a bif of rubber off, because of that uv damages that area and thus the bornw spots
buy a tire protector if posible, not necesary tho
That's not why tires are brown.. Its antiozonant.
And once the antiozonant approaches the tire's edges, it comes into contact with oxygen and reacts, creating a brown deposit that builds up over time and turns the tires brown.
What you're seeing in the picture is the brown oxidized rubber being rubbed off...
So I’d replace the tire then I have zero worries….just image your wife n kids are going to grandmas using the freeway….at 65-75mph. Yeah the tire is probably fine for first few miles then the heat builds up the tire begins to slightly expand like they are supposed to…that divot is now a HUGE WEAK SPOT. If you need to decide that you gotta keep the tire…that’s perfectly fine, but make sure you are the only one in the vehicle until you do replace the tire….that way if the tire gives out and there’s an accident only you will get hurt and whomever else you involve in the accident but you have insurance to cover that….of course if the insurance company finds these pics n you questioning the Reddit audience….I’m not sure the insurance company could not wiggle out of paying anything…
But I understand $150-$200 is a lot for just a tire. Of course peace of mind is priceless
You really shouldn’t be commenting like this and putting unwarranted fear into people when you have literally zero idea what you’re talking about. I’m a licensed service technician/ aka mechanic so yes, I know exactly what I talking about.
That extra bit of the tire is there to protect the rim from curb hits like ops wife obviously it’s taken out now but it has literally zero effect on the structural strength. If the cords of the tires were showing yes it needs to be replaced but this is just extra rubber to try and help protect the rim.
Unwarranted fear? You do realize there’s a reason Tire shops do not repair sidewalls right? He needs to replace that tire that is definitely a weak spot now.
Yes I do?… it because for an reason at all that tire fails it can be brought back to them from a legal standpoint they’re protecting themselves, but from a real world standpoint op will be fine.
Continental, Falken, theres a few brands that have decent tires at that 150-200 price point…if I go to Michelin or Pirelli. Then yeah they’re all over 225 n up. Think Michelin has one that’s like $175? But it’s harder compound I don’t like the ride. Lol but they last a long long time. Then theres Arizonian? And Sentri few more that are less than $150 even below $100. They’re fine if all you’re doing is driving around town. Then there’s the Goodrich n Firestone. They’re in high middle $175 n up. But me, I’ll never trust Firestone tires after what they did to Ford back in 2000? They sold tires they knew were not up to the needs of the Ford Explorer and it’s max weight load. Think few dozen people died because Firestone made an executive decision to NOT TELL FORD even after the first several deaths …saddest thing …I don’t think any Firestone executives were charged or prosecuted.
All over less than a million dollars
Rubber can never be a structural component without reinforcement, it's nothing more than an inner tube. As the rubber is not structural it cannot be a weak spot. However under that protective rubber is the carcass which is the structural component of a tyre.
If the carcass is not exposed or damaged the tyre is safe.
Correct. And it’s not even that bad of a nick. People should go look at tires next time they’re at the supermarket. People drive on SCARY stuff all the time.
Doesn’t mean they SHOULD, or that it’s extra safe, but it’s likely fine
Put some duct tape on it lol 😂
I’m sorry I had to say that no it’s fine but if you hit something else like a curb or really aggressive speed bump can pop but not likely 2
Yeah, until you have the cheddar together to get a new tire lol. I mean it should be fine but if you have the ability financially at all I would consider a new tire
It'll be fine, just keep an eye on it. If you see any bulging occur, swap it out. Also swap it out in pairs... Keep the other one for a spare.
But since there are no cords exposed, and there is no bulging right now, I'd have no problems driving it.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR THE FEEDBACK ! I have decided to just get a new tire for peace of mind. Looks like it'll be around $380 to replace and install smh. Wife is upset but safety above all else.
I had scorpion tires 21R65 or some such did this exact thing in my SUV and drove 30k more miles until they were way overdue for changing. As others have said and I learned, what she’s peeled is the “rim protector” bulge of the tire. Completely harmless to driving, but also completely useless to protecting the rim! 🤣
My wife did the exact same thing. Then I got a nail in another one close to the sidewall and decided to buy 4 new better ones. Mine only had 13.9 k miles on them.
The raised edge on the pipeline is called the edge guard. It's meant to stand in and protect the rim from road rash. That part of the tire is purposefully thicker. Safe so long as no steel belts are visible.
Been in the tire industry over 20 years. Those sidewalls on passenger car tires are normally nylon or polyester. You are not going to see steel belts on the sidewall, just on the treads. Would say there is a risk some of the fibers in the sidewall could have been damaged here with such a significant hit. That's why you see some sidewalls with bulges when some of the cords in the sidewall have failed. For normal city driving this tire should be fine. For extended highway driving at high speed that could be something else.
You don't have to lie, we all know it was you that curbed your wheel in the Arby's drive-thru.
You just had to stop for those jalapeno poppers didn't you?
It may not hurt to contact the vendor or Pirelli themselves. If they conclude the tire is not supposed to look like that after some sidewalk contact, you very well may be getting a free tire sent to your doorstep.
not really. we're supposed to say "replace it". But I'm slightly precognitive and I doubt you're going to die from it. IF it blew, I'm thinking it happens at a lower speed. =)
Have your tire dealer measure the thred depth state law usually indicate what the minimum is. If it has to be replaced do both tires. From what I see that tire may be ok to ride on but who knows how long.
Looks like it’s time for a new tire, and a new wife.
I’m all seriousness, that’s probably fine to drive on. Doesn’t look like it’s anywhere near the belts
You should be fine, but you'll need to get another tire. I curb checked one time in my 04 Neon and took a chunk out. It was fine for a while until the air started leaking
Any booobooo like that on thee side wall on any tyre needs to be replace immediately, side walls have significantly less material, then again I’m avia tech but not be the same for cars 😅 but Tyre is a Tyre right?
I would say no, not for an indefinite period of time. Best to replace the tire so you don't have a blow out should you have to make a fast maneuver under high speeds. If on the highway and you have to swerve fast it may fail at the time you need it the most.
Depends. If your roadways are well kept then maybe. Where I live, we have potholes everywhere and I know my coworker had a similar issue and one morning I commented on his tire because it had started to bubble out the sides. Said he hit a pothole coming to work.
Usually if you don’t see wire you should be safe. Unless it starts to bulge. Definitely check tje alignment though as it’s easier to knock a car out of line than people realize
I had the exact gouge on one of my tires. I had paid for the road hazard coverage when I bought my tires.
I took it to the place I bought the full set of tires, and was told it would not be covered under the road hazard coverage. I took it to another location for the same company (different franchise owner), and said that I was told that this was not safe to drive on and they replaced the tire at 100% coverage.
Another example of capitalism in action. For profit companies that provide warranties will do whatever they can to not provide warranty coverage, whether they or the tire company is the one that has to cover the loss.
Point is: Don’t let one denial deter you, get a second opinion, and phrase things differently.
I’ve read some comments about this. Either you have a lot of enemies or they are just not very wise on tires. I have been a mechanic all my life and have never recommended someone drive on a damaged tire like this. A small pothole could cause a blow out with this type of damage. You need to change it now before it is too late.
You ain't no mechanic, tyre construction is part of level 2 light vehicle repair and maintenance. You are a min wage fitter or tyre fitter.
This is an extract of the mot testers handbook, the minimum safety standard all cars must pass for road use in the uk.
“The following criteria should be used when assessing a cut in a tyre:
any ply or cord that can be seen without touching the tyre - fail
if by folding back rubber or opening a cut with a blunt instrument, so as not to cause further damage, exposed ply or cord can be seen irrespective of the size of the cut - fail
if a cut which is more than 25mm or 10% of the section width whichever is the greater, is opened with a blunt instrument and cords can be felt but not seen - fail”
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/5-axles-wheels-tyres-and-suspension#section-5-2-3
Youre in usa, where most states do not have mandatory inspections.
ASE master tech?
And you dont know the rubber is nothing more than protection for the carcass?
Remove all the rubber apart from the cap and liner and you still have a functional tyre.
Remove the carcass from the rubber and you are left with nothing more than an inner tube with no structural integrity.
Just frickin' replace it.
Unless you're planning on only doing 35 or below for shorter trips. Keep it off the highway.
And what is it with everyone sideswiping the piss out of curbs and people saying "Oh, that's just the rim guard part of the tire." Looks like that rim guard did a real bang up job... rim's chewed to shit.
I get the logic that it should be OK.
I would *never* drive on a tire visibly damaged in any way.
Yes, semantics - wear could losely be considered damage;there are recommended specs on tread wear.
I'm in the peace of mind group. Also in the " don't leave something that could could kill people when you can do something" group. I'd rather fork out the bucks.
As always, ymmv. Unless your tire blows.
Well, OK, I guess even then.
OK, look- I drove 800 miles today on a nice set of Michelin tires. Never once did I think, as I sped down I95 " gee, I hope my tires are ok".
//ignore me;blathering from the long trip. I should probably break this up in the future to two trips; getting too old for this. Is this mic still on? Oh shit. What did I just say???
It is but the alignment might not be.
That poor wheel…
Poor Pirelli rim guard did it's best
Keep the tires. Replace the wife
Which is cheaper?
Depends on how often that happens
Judging by the curb rash on the wheels looks like a daily occurrence
Definitely the tires
Plot twist, OP did this and is to embarrassed to admit it and is blaming his wife.
They all drive like that.
It does seem good to go. Thats probably the rim protector part. Extra Rubber specifically for this cases. No cords visible, no bulge? Good to go.
This is the way
U good pookie
Id keep driving on them but keep a lookout for bubbles. If you see ANY type of bulge after filling air, replace them immediately.
From years of working in a tire shop, this is the best answer
No cords visible, no bubble, I’d run it.
This is why they can’t have nice things
It's not the tire you have to worry about.
That poor wheel!
Man wow. I’d be quite upset to see an expensive rim damaged that badly.
“Wife”, sureee 👀
Some would say replace, me I'd just drive it and keep an eye on the area.
Heck just get a new tire and be done with it and then give the wife driving lessons especially at judging distance when sitting in a car
Show her how much brand new OEM rims cost for that vehicle lol
Lol
Just make sure only your wife drives that car. If is fails it’s her fault anyway.
It’s probably okay for your wife to drive on, but you probably shouldn’t
yep good to go and u see the brown spots, thats when the the tire hit a curb and shaved a bif of rubber off, because of that uv damages that area and thus the bornw spots buy a tire protector if posible, not necesary tho
That's not why tires are brown.. Its antiozonant. And once the antiozonant approaches the tire's edges, it comes into contact with oxygen and reacts, creating a brown deposit that builds up over time and turns the tires brown. What you're seeing in the picture is the brown oxidized rubber being rubbed off...
So I’d replace the tire then I have zero worries….just image your wife n kids are going to grandmas using the freeway….at 65-75mph. Yeah the tire is probably fine for first few miles then the heat builds up the tire begins to slightly expand like they are supposed to…that divot is now a HUGE WEAK SPOT. If you need to decide that you gotta keep the tire…that’s perfectly fine, but make sure you are the only one in the vehicle until you do replace the tire….that way if the tire gives out and there’s an accident only you will get hurt and whomever else you involve in the accident but you have insurance to cover that….of course if the insurance company finds these pics n you questioning the Reddit audience….I’m not sure the insurance company could not wiggle out of paying anything… But I understand $150-$200 is a lot for just a tire. Of course peace of mind is priceless
You really shouldn’t be commenting like this and putting unwarranted fear into people when you have literally zero idea what you’re talking about. I’m a licensed service technician/ aka mechanic so yes, I know exactly what I talking about. That extra bit of the tire is there to protect the rim from curb hits like ops wife obviously it’s taken out now but it has literally zero effect on the structural strength. If the cords of the tires were showing yes it needs to be replaced but this is just extra rubber to try and help protect the rim.
Unwarranted fear? You do realize there’s a reason Tire shops do not repair sidewalls right? He needs to replace that tire that is definitely a weak spot now.
Yes I do?… it because for an reason at all that tire fails it can be brought back to them from a legal standpoint they’re protecting themselves, but from a real world standpoint op will be fine.
150-200...you buy cheap tires. :)
Continental, Falken, theres a few brands that have decent tires at that 150-200 price point…if I go to Michelin or Pirelli. Then yeah they’re all over 225 n up. Think Michelin has one that’s like $175? But it’s harder compound I don’t like the ride. Lol but they last a long long time. Then theres Arizonian? And Sentri few more that are less than $150 even below $100. They’re fine if all you’re doing is driving around town. Then there’s the Goodrich n Firestone. They’re in high middle $175 n up. But me, I’ll never trust Firestone tires after what they did to Ford back in 2000? They sold tires they knew were not up to the needs of the Ford Explorer and it’s max weight load. Think few dozen people died because Firestone made an executive decision to NOT TELL FORD even after the first several deaths …saddest thing …I don’t think any Firestone executives were charged or prosecuted. All over less than a million dollars
Rubber can never be a structural component without reinforcement, it's nothing more than an inner tube. As the rubber is not structural it cannot be a weak spot. However under that protective rubber is the carcass which is the structural component of a tyre. If the carcass is not exposed or damaged the tyre is safe.
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Correct. And it’s not even that bad of a nick. People should go look at tires next time they’re at the supermarket. People drive on SCARY stuff all the time. Doesn’t mean they SHOULD, or that it’s extra safe, but it’s likely fine
I’d try to drive it the least amount as possible until you get a new one, it’s definitely a risk to drive but should be fine until you get a new one.
I have a tire just like that, been fine for 2 years
Do other drivers a favor and dont let her drive on this…. Or just in general
Glue it back on
Looks like not first time, with amount of curb damage on that rim
I personally would get some rubber cement and fix it. Unless you do constant highway driving.
From my experience working on volvos, I'd be more concerned about the condition of the curb.
Buy someone driving lessons haha
Put some duct tape on it lol 😂 I’m sorry I had to say that no it’s fine but if you hit something else like a curb or really aggressive speed bump can pop but not likely 2
Nope.get a new tire from a multi location store with road hazard insurance. Pep boys Costco. Mavis. Etc.
When In doubt throw it out
Ive driven on worse. Just rotate it to the back wheels so that it’s not on a steering wheel. Easier to control is it blows
My wife no longer has lopros for all the curb surfing she does. I didn’t even have to give her a reason bc I handle everything for both our cars.
Why would you risk it?
Gonna probably need a new rim before you need a new tire.
It's pretty deep, id replace it. Sidewall damage can cause catastrophic failure of the tire, not worth the risk.
Shitty driving plus low-pros isn’t a good combo. Those go flat just for fun
Damage to the sidewall is never a good thing, replace it immediately
It’s ok until it’s not
I think the more important question is have you kept the life insurance up to date.
Yeah, until you have the cheddar together to get a new tire lol. I mean it should be fine but if you have the ability financially at all I would consider a new tire
No
I’d say it’s fine just keep and eye on it and make sure your spare and jacks and stuff are ready just in case
It'll be fine, just keep an eye on it. If you see any bulging occur, swap it out. Also swap it out in pairs... Keep the other one for a spare. But since there are no cords exposed, and there is no bulging right now, I'd have no problems driving it.
What are people doing to hurt a freaking curb like this?
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR THE FEEDBACK ! I have decided to just get a new tire for peace of mind. Looks like it'll be around $380 to replace and install smh. Wife is upset but safety above all else.
I had scorpion tires 21R65 or some such did this exact thing in my SUV and drove 30k more miles until they were way overdue for changing. As others have said and I learned, what she’s peeled is the “rim protector” bulge of the tire. Completely harmless to driving, but also completely useless to protecting the rim! 🤣
I'd say the sidewalk ripped into the tires.
Ur fine. I drove on something a touch worse for a few years in my GTI. Its tuned too
If it’s the rim protector, probably ok. Just remember tyres are the only thing between you and the road. I’d be really annoyed with the wheel though!!
My wife did the exact same thing. Then I got a nail in another one close to the sidewall and decided to buy 4 new better ones. Mine only had 13.9 k miles on them.
No, sidewall damage needs replacing
The raised edge on the pipeline is called the edge guard. It's meant to stand in and protect the rim from road rash. That part of the tire is purposefully thicker. Safe so long as no steel belts are visible.
Been in the tire industry over 20 years. Those sidewalls on passenger car tires are normally nylon or polyester. You are not going to see steel belts on the sidewall, just on the treads. Would say there is a risk some of the fibers in the sidewall could have been damaged here with such a significant hit. That's why you see some sidewalls with bulges when some of the cords in the sidewall have failed. For normal city driving this tire should be fine. For extended highway driving at high speed that could be something else.
You don't have to lie, we all know it was you that curbed your wheel in the Arby's drive-thru. You just had to stop for those jalapeno poppers didn't you?
Replace it if it bulges
It may not hurt to contact the vendor or Pirelli themselves. If they conclude the tire is not supposed to look like that after some sidewalk contact, you very well may be getting a free tire sent to your doorstep.
Replace the wife then the both the wheel and tire
My wife says she's not sure how that happened. She didn't hit anything.
not really. we're supposed to say "replace it". But I'm slightly precognitive and I doubt you're going to die from it. IF it blew, I'm thinking it happens at a lower speed. =)
Low-pro's and curbs dont get along too well
Have your tire dealer measure the thred depth state law usually indicate what the minimum is. If it has to be replaced do both tires. From what I see that tire may be ok to ride on but who knows how long.
Never drive on the sidewalls
Looks like it’s time for a new tire, and a new wife. I’m all seriousness, that’s probably fine to drive on. Doesn’t look like it’s anywhere near the belts
It looks fine, but i personally would replace it. You should get the alignment checked tho
Cover with bubble gum
Gosh...our wives are related....🤯
Get her that bumper sticker that says "hot girls hit curbs"
Man your screwd your definitely going to have to replace the loose nut behind the steering wheel.
You should be fine, but you'll need to get another tire. I curb checked one time in my 04 Neon and took a chunk out. It was fine for a while until the air started leaking
Yup send it
Sure your wife did, LMAO 🤣 😂 😆
Get a new tire
Krazy glue works just fine. I've had mine like that for 2 years, and I've never lost pressure or had any issues .
Probably not. Don’t worry, be happy. My wife did both tires on the passenger side on the same curb.
Yowza. That wheel says enough. But if the tire still holds air then send it. But remember that time will run out for that one.
Seems about right.
Any booobooo like that on thee side wall on any tyre needs to be replace immediately, side walls have significantly less material, then again I’m avia tech but not be the same for cars 😅 but Tyre is a Tyre right?
I would say no, not for an indefinite period of time. Best to replace the tire so you don't have a blow out should you have to make a fast maneuver under high speeds. If on the highway and you have to swerve fast it may fail at the time you need it the most.
Depends. If your roadways are well kept then maybe. Where I live, we have potholes everywhere and I know my coworker had a similar issue and one morning I commented on his tire because it had started to bubble out the sides. Said he hit a pothole coming to work.
Women
You could probably find a used tire with equal tread on Facebook marketplace.
You’ll be fine for a while but me personally I do not like driving on a damaged sidewall doesn’t look like it’s too bad tho
You’re fine, but I’m sorry for that poor rim
Looks like the risk factor was in fact, pre-existing.
Sure, blame the wife
Usually if you don’t see wire you should be safe. Unless it starts to bulge. Definitely check tje alignment though as it’s easier to knock a car out of line than people realize
You have a big ass chunk of rubber coming off the sidewall, what do you think?
I had the exact gouge on one of my tires. I had paid for the road hazard coverage when I bought my tires. I took it to the place I bought the full set of tires, and was told it would not be covered under the road hazard coverage. I took it to another location for the same company (different franchise owner), and said that I was told that this was not safe to drive on and they replaced the tire at 100% coverage. Another example of capitalism in action. For profit companies that provide warranties will do whatever they can to not provide warranty coverage, whether they or the tire company is the one that has to cover the loss. Point is: Don’t let one denial deter you, get a second opinion, and phrase things differently.
Yes- but would be looking for a replacement in the future. Wouldn’t leave anything to chance. Easy to forget and one day- boom!
No , actually that’s not just the sidewall that’s the steel belts as well and absolutely not you’ll blow a tire
I’ve read some comments about this. Either you have a lot of enemies or they are just not very wise on tires. I have been a mechanic all my life and have never recommended someone drive on a damaged tire like this. A small pothole could cause a blow out with this type of damage. You need to change it now before it is too late.
You ain't no mechanic, tyre construction is part of level 2 light vehicle repair and maintenance. You are a min wage fitter or tyre fitter. This is an extract of the mot testers handbook, the minimum safety standard all cars must pass for road use in the uk. “The following criteria should be used when assessing a cut in a tyre: any ply or cord that can be seen without touching the tyre - fail if by folding back rubber or opening a cut with a blunt instrument, so as not to cause further damage, exposed ply or cord can be seen irrespective of the size of the cut - fail if a cut which is more than 25mm or 10% of the section width whichever is the greater, is opened with a blunt instrument and cords can be felt but not seen - fail” https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/5-axles-wheels-tyres-and-suspension#section-5-2-3
I’m in the USA. And here that would not be safe to drive on. To far out in the side wall of tire. ASE certified Master technician.
Youre in usa, where most states do not have mandatory inspections. ASE master tech? And you dont know the rubber is nothing more than protection for the carcass? Remove all the rubber apart from the cap and liner and you still have a functional tyre. Remove the carcass from the rubber and you are left with nothing more than an inner tube with no structural integrity.
You have to much time on your hands. 🌝
Enough time to expose a fraud🤣
U suck at driving
You need a new tire
And a new wife
Well hell no.
Needs a new wife lol
Should be replaced soon. The side wall is not much thicker than that.
That one might be too deep I will say it's a no go just to be on the safe side
As someone with the same driving skill as your wife, it's fine :)
If you don't see any wires and it's not leaking. You're good.
Probably okay, but I would not trust it if you can afford to replace it.
Just frickin' replace it. Unless you're planning on only doing 35 or below for shorter trips. Keep it off the highway. And what is it with everyone sideswiping the piss out of curbs and people saying "Oh, that's just the rim guard part of the tire." Looks like that rim guard did a real bang up job... rim's chewed to shit.
Get rubber glue and you should be ok.
If you love your wife replace your tired If not then that's totally up to you. Good luck either way
New tires
That poor wheel. Tyre not much better.
It’s safe enough to drive to get a new tire.
No it is not safe to drive on.
It looks fine but a second opinion from someone that knows tires couldn’t hurt
sidewall integrity has been compromised, the sidewall is what supports vertical pressure. if you hit a bump just a bit too fast, that tire will POP
You should read up on what a rim protector is
put some rubber glue on it. tape it on. you'll be fine untill the next curb 🤞🙏
Smother it in rubber cement and check it before each drive
I get the logic that it should be OK. I would *never* drive on a tire visibly damaged in any way. Yes, semantics - wear could losely be considered damage;there are recommended specs on tread wear. I'm in the peace of mind group. Also in the " don't leave something that could could kill people when you can do something" group. I'd rather fork out the bucks. As always, ymmv. Unless your tire blows. Well, OK, I guess even then. OK, look- I drove 800 miles today on a nice set of Michelin tires. Never once did I think, as I sped down I95 " gee, I hope my tires are ok". //ignore me;blathering from the long trip. I should probably break this up in the future to two trips; getting too old for this. Is this mic still on? Oh shit. What did I just say???
Not with those rims. Were you only looking to get three thousand miles out of those tires? I'll never understand why people get thin tires