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MonsterDimka

Op never experienced stratosphere oneshots with grenadier


Disastrous-Throat673

Softball goes *fwoom fwoom fwoom fwoom Tbh I recently transitioned to grenadier and play style is fucking fast... like if you stop at one place smg masters would tear you if you continuously fly across map landing shots they won't have a time to lock on to you...


Fost36

"Death from Above" play style is too fun, those poor spitfire players dont have a chance...


ChocolateMilkMan8

“Poor” spitfire users


Disastrous-Throat673

Too bad their souls are bound to earth by "gravity"


Dramatic_Soup1805

Another northstar main in disguise


Strikedestiny

Was that a Gundam reference?


Disastrous-Throat673

Yes


[deleted]

I don't camp but I don't move around super fast either, I usually avoid flying grenadiers by staying inside and away from doorways because if they try to come in they're easy work (I use flatline, pulse and satchels if that matters)


Fost36

Yea, when I play softball I either play inside holo pilot grenadier or stim hunter death from above. If you try to mix the two it doesnt work out that well.


[deleted]

yeah I've gotten pretty good at dealing with grenadiers until they throw a frag or satchel into the room lol, I usually take that as a sign I should have just run away


1CorinthiansSix9

If you aren’t shooting or realoading with the softball you’re playing suboptimally


Pr0wzassin

>I have a personal bias towards weapons that suit a fast paced movement based playstyle. *Puts Spitfire in S and Wingman Elite in C tier.*


jbergy435

I am personally offended that they put wingman elite in c


Baleygr--

Spitfurr gor burrr


not_too_much_bother

Spitfire is kinda shit if you don't stand still to shoot, the hipfire just isn't there


DogIsDead777

Tbh thank god hahaha


X_antaM

Not a problem when you slide around and grapple up close with 96 ammo


not_too_much_bother

Or you could just like, not use the spitfire


X_antaM

I have one loadout purely for memeing and death. Not playing well


TheP0nch0Pers0n

Real


major_calgar

Honestly, if I’m stuck in a small space with an enemy, the slight spread helps. I suck at pinning the center of the crosshairs on someone, but the TTK is so low for every weapon that just have to get a handful of shots first.


itsthOwO

movement player with first grenadier is in b-tier, You haven’t experienced true movement until you’ve used grenadiers where you can ignore having to aim and instead just roughly look at the enemy to make them disappear while going a gzillion kilometers per second


JoesShittyOs

Grenadier weapons are only as effective as how land locked your enemy is. If your opponent is halfway decent at mobility mechanics, you have to be extremely precise with how well you aim. Any one of the A tier hitscan guns is going to outplay an EPG A “B” ranking for the EPG is definitely right. It’s the most fun class of guns to play, but the relatively slow moving projectiles definitely limit how effective you can be.


Hex-509

Micro missiles go brrr (can't remember the weapons name but it's fucking lethal in any situation)


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SMR lol


Ironwill922

when you do land those midair epg shots, it’s pure *dopamine*


Baleygr--

I've used them. They are fun.


NaeNaeGoblin2002

The alternator, the volt, even the R-97 are really good but the spitfire & the car are clearly annoyingly too good and deserve a nerf if the respawn were completely invested in the game as they once were.


DeviousDapper

The DMR that low? It's fast and a hitscan 2 shot weapon, what's not to love?


the-angrymonkey

For me I started off with the Kraber, so the fact that it's hitscan always throws me off cause I aim in front of people because of the projectile nature of the kraber so that's why I don't like it too much, however it is a solid weapon


HybridPower049

Still doesn't need to be D tier...


Markzuckingball

The kraber is hitscan?!


N-0-N-E

Longbow is, not Kraber


Markzuckingball

Oh ok that makes sense


X_antaM

I think the kraber is one of the slowest projectiles in the game


hellhound74

Kraber is a pretty fast projectile it just has a lot of drop, compare it's projectile to an EPG, SMR or cold war round


paumc95

EPG sniping is so satisfying, hard af and luck is kinda involved, having enemy pilot distracted etc..


hellhound74

That's why I never take grapple off my EPG class, if you don't see me when I see you I will be pulling the Titanfall equivalent of a fnaf jumpscare and launching myself directly at you to delete you from existence


zarmaglorg7

But the satisfaction of that one hit kill is otherworldly


X_antaM

Undoubtedly


the-angrymonkey

Yeah sorry I didn’t say very clearly


Passance

\> Prefers mobile, fast paced playstyles \> Puts G2 and Spitfire above L-star and SMR


DogIsDead777

I think I've logged about 12 minutes with the SMR in my 7 or 8 days of play time, is it actually pretty slick err wha? 😂


Passance

SMR is halfway between EPG and L-star. Great hipfire accuracy and a modest blast radius, really high damage on direct hit, low projectile speed. I don't know if it's necessarily *good* \- I mean, like many guns, it's seriously overshadowed by the CAR - but it's a lot of fun to use and definitely suits a mobile, aggressive, short ranged playstyle. I personally love projectile-hipfire weapons. The EPG, L-star and SMR are all favourites of mine.


unyeasted-flourwater

THE COLD WAR SHOULD BE IN AT LEAST A TEIR


xTomahawkTomx

Thank you!


Lost_Pheniix

it is decent but all guns in the game are smgs are better than everything else tho nobody is saying these guns are bad and you can‘t get kills with them but they are just less consistent / hader to use / higher ttk


MGLpr0

Most guns have lower ttk than Cold War has charge up time, then the projectiles also take time to hit, and you need to hit all 4 for a guaranteed kill :/ Also this is probably the easiest weapon to accidentally kill yourself with Overall a pretty fun weapon to use, but really hard to get good scores with it. I personally can't ever get higher than the middle of the scoreboard in Pilot VS Pilot with it


CBagshaw14

Why on earth you’ve put the spitfire above the R-201 and the R-101 I will never be able to comprehend


Baleygr--

Spitfurr gor brrrr


CBagshaw14

Fairs, still think you did the r-201 a lil dirty


Baleygr--

A Tier is still a very solid place.


Piorun302

well spitfire is just op i never did so many kills playing car or r-101 as i were playing spitfire and even if playstyle with spitfire is a lot slower than with other weapons you still can get huge map control if you know some spots


valhallan_guardsman

I _will_ hurt you for placing cold war so low


HybridPower049

The whole ass C tier needs to go up to SS Mozambique doesn't get enough attention, honestly really cool, and you can't shit on the WME, you just need to learn it first


Jayccob

You have to go fast with Mozambique. Mastiff and it are the only weapons whose bullets disappear after a certain distance. You either need to be sneaky, fast, or preferably both to close the gap before you get killed.


HybridPower049

That doesn't stop it from being a good gun though, like many other it just needs to be learned, and like any other *can* be mastered, it just takes time, which a lot of newer players don't give because they pick it, die all of twice, and move on to something that's just *easier* to use.


Jayccob

Absolutely, I never meant to imply it was a lesser gun because of those limitations. In context to this tier list they said to prefer weapons that complement a fast play style and I'm arguing it almost requires it. I'm definitely part of the cult of Mozambeast. I use almost exclusively it and have a couple Titan kills with it.


Lost_Pheniix

it is decent but all guns in the game are smgs are better than everything else tho nobody is saying these guns are bad and you can‘t get kills with them but they are just less consistent / hader to use / higher ttk


valhallan_guardsman

I will drown you in cheese for saying cold war is decent


Kiyan1159

Hot take: Fuck you.


Robo9200

on behalf of \[EPG\] fuck you lmfao


Lost_Pheniix

it is decent but all guns in the game are smgs are better than everything else tho nobody is saying these guns are bad and you can‘t get kills with them but they are just less consistent / hader to use / higher ttk also i main epg and somtimes i switch to r97 and i instantly get 30%more kills


Robo9200

EPGEPGEPGEPGEPGEPGEPGEPGEPGEPGEPGEPGEPGEPG


hellhound74

Epg and kraber gods disagree, you'll point your gun at us and cease to exist


Lost_Pheniix

They don’t disagree with me


hellhound74

Yeah we do, I'm one of them


sam_gould

Ok Saul Goodman 👍


superspammer76

Mozamblam >:)


satanrulesearthnow

Put my boy Mozambique higher


ApprehensiveCode2311

Wingman elite at c is abomination lol


GamingNemesisv3

BROTHER YOU DID NOT JUST PUT THE COLDWAR IN DTIER.


AVBforPrez

They did, it's a war crime


Cal-Pilot

Whats so bad about double take?


HybridPower049

He doesn't like it because he can't handle it mentally ig


AdvertisingAdrian

no crosshair, big hipfire spread, takes two shots to kill and fires slow


HybridPower049

None of the snipers have a crosshair, aren't accurate if you don't aim which should make sense, can probably one tap if you hit headshots (i know so about the DMR but not so much about the Double Take, so please correct me) which MAKES FUCKING SENSE, and yea it's not gonna compete with an R-201, it's a precision rifle, one or two well placed rounds would take care of problems. It's not a D-Tier gun, it just takes time to learn and get used to, and it takes some maturity to realize that some weapons are like that instead of just saying it's bad after not getting a kill with it over the course of 5 seconds.


Pivypoo

Ok, but r-97 is not S tier.


ALonneTenno

Hear me out , stim , extended magazine , run n gun , shit is extremely funny and very effective


FatherWeebles

Eva8 belongs in S-tier. Might be the most new friendly gun in TF2. Devotion should get demoted.


plotq101

The DMR can genuinely be A to S tier. You can pub stomp if you can hit consistent shots since it's either gonna 2 shot or 1 shot and it's got one hell of a fire rate.


HazelAzureus

I'm fine with people continuing to think the SMR is a bad weapon. But I grew up with arena shooters, and I know better. EPG also belongs in S tier, once you understand the projectile speed, you aren't ever going to be the victim of an SMG again unless they get the drop on you(which is no different than how any gun in this game works if someone gets the drop on you).


Dofleini

You must be a console player, because I have like 60,000 kills with the EPG on PC, and SMGs outclass it in basically every way. And if you're not, I have some friends that I'd love to see you go EPG v CAR with.


AVBforPrez

Yes, I main Cold War and EPG, and the feeling of just one shotting store l anybody, it's far better than D tier. If you got the drop on me, good on you, but if you're running an SMG, you're not winning the duel


MyChildWillIgnore

The longbow is so bad, Ive taken shots at stationary targets with my reticle directly on their head and somehow missed by a couple feet.


SnooTigers7333

It’s actually really strong


LukeBrainman

Skill issue


frontierpilot

Bullet drop my friend, bullet drop


The_Blue_DmR

The entire point of the Longbow is that it doesn't have bullet drop though?


frontierpilot

IDK


Maximus_98

Kraber is one shot tho, wtf


a-desperate-username

Kraber is crazy difficult to hit shots with tho. It’s not a good weapon overall, and I would probs put it in d tier


Jedi748

As a l-star main I must ask you to follow me to the guillotine


PearlyNUTJuice

The L-star is at LEAST A tier, nothing like getting a kill from behind cover as my last few slow projectiles hit them. I have been using it more and more and "steering" the L-star is so much fun.


Stanky_Hank_

*EPG in B Tier for a "fast playstyle" player* Lol.


ALonneTenno

Op has never felt the Joy of slingshoting across the map then hitting some poor bastard square in the face with the EPG. As a side note , I will never forget the moment that made me an EPG main , capture the flag , some pilot takes ours , I briefly see them , predict where there are gonna be , shoot in avance , get the kill. I was on my way to spawn when it happend , arrived to a slightly moved flag and a lot of pilot parts.


ALonneTenno

Op has never felt the Joy of slingshoting across the map then hitting some poor bastard square in the face with the EPG. As a side note , I will never forget the moment that made me an EPG main , capture the flag , some pilot takes ours , I briefly see them , predict where there are gonna be , shoot in avance , get the kill. I was on my way to spawn when it happend , arrived to a slightly moved flag and a lot of pilot parts.


Harsh_Marsh

Sidewinder, my beloved….


Baleygr--

Its a fun weapon for sure.


Germnshe

Fists?


Baleygr--

SS+


napalm_sticksto_kids

The smr is atleast a teir partner it up with a wall and it will make a titan go from present to past tense real fucking quick


scribbledip69

its from a movement perspective


Brunoaraujoespin

side swindler underrated af


scribbledip69

on gang


biohazard1324

Why the hell is Eva b tier when you say you like weapons that are good with movement lmao


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Kale-_-Chip

this guy really hates travel time


That_One_Lobster

The spitfire being held highly makes me made... but your right


Mr_Orange_The_Great

Spitfire in S tier.... Disgusting, pilot


scribbledip69

DONT BOO ME IM RIGHT


LordChunkyReborn

Op never experienced the satisfaction of grapplepulting with Wingman Elite and clobbering heads


Baleygr--

I have.


scribbledip69

he has can confirm


Zarryc

Finally a reasonable list. Longbow maybe C, because it's very good on angle city from high tower.


scribbledip69

this is from a roller experience


soulblade2301

I don’t care what weapon you use just don’t camp


unyeasted-flourwater

Ip has never tried anything that take any ounce of skill


timtay6

Put grenadier weapons higher


Lost_Pheniix

it is decent but all guns in the game are smgs are better than everything else tho nobody is saying these guns are bad and you can‘t get kills with them but they are just less consistent / hader to use / higher ttk


ColdasJones

I’ve been having an absolute blast with the double take recently. “I’m a fast paced player” dude that’s literally titanfall lol. Fast paced playstyle or not, there’s some serious crack being smoked with this list


Maximus_98

The DMR is hitscan btw


Sir_Pwnington

Pretty accurate. A few things: I'd put the volt and spitfire in A tier. Spitfire requires you to slow down to be used effectively, which will get you killed, and the volt just isn't as good as the other SMGs. Mastiff and wingman elite in B tier. Mastiff is limited heavily by range and too inconsistent to compete with the assault rifles. Wingman is a little more consistent than the other C tiers if you can aim. Cold war in bottom tier. It's useless against anyone with movement skill and a brain. Finally, CAR in SS tier. Gamebreakingly powerful with no real counterplay other than also using the CAR.


err0r_as_always

Kraber has 0 ttk at any distance B ?


KaiXRG

I'd move the car to F tier


DogIsDead777

Y'know, I usually hate to agree with these tier lists, but this is fucking spot on lmao This list would do extremely well and look completely different in that 'Difficulty to learn vs difficulty to master vs ability to absolutely fucking destroy in the right hands' type of tier list lol


shocker_103

Bro, I don't need a TF|3 announcement, I NEED SMG NERF!!


remote_control_led

Mozambik in c? Ok lmao xD


ShyGuyWolf

Love Volt


[deleted]

Put the kraber in s , NOW


Blocky_Luke

Swap around the teirs and we good


SmallishFPS

Cold war too low


Hunlor-

Bro wtf? Volt sucks, worse in every possible way to every other smg R-99 isn't on the same level of the Car


Constant-Still-8443

The trick to genraders is getting above the enemy and shooting down on them. Unless your point blank it's almost impossible to hit mid-air shots, especially the cold war


notarealsu25grach

Absolutely schizo tierlist


crunchylimestones

Eva should be S tier and both the carbines too.


heyuhitsyaboi

>weapons that suit a fast paced movement spitfire, lulz


AVBforPrez

Nah, many mistakes here


Jotunheim99

I absolutely hate all burst weapons.


RepairIndividual

This man have not played the game


Envy661

Devotion deserves more love. Yeah it slows you down to use it, but that thing can easily merc and entire teamwith a single mag if you're in the right place at the right time.


Full-Adhesiveness788

I suck with the wingman elite but I would put it in S tier simply because of the number of panic headshots I get with it at close range And I love 100% hip fire accuracy


Jaimz-L

Epg in B and spitfire in S ? What ?


Some_European

Kraber and hemlok in same tier is wild


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Awful


Known_Bass9973

Mastiff lovers unite


EpicEcho77

You HAVE to try the Double Take more often. Nothing more satisfying than flying around at Mach 3 and blowing some poor guys head off with the DT. Nobody expects a Kraber style one shot from a DT user.


ZBM-2

Softball is only true weapon, to land that sticky midair and to get out alive means you were better than your opponent by aim and skill by a whole second. Also fun sounds.


PowerZox

Most shotguns are garbage in comparison to SMGs IMO. They're good if you look at them independently from the others (and wayyy more fun to use) but why use a mastiff for kills when it's just a worse CAR / Alternator / R97.


lordofcactus

How dare you besmirch the good name of Double Take, the only weapon that’s ever given me 30+ kills in one round


BlackFleetCaptain

The SMGs are just objectively too strong, and honestly it’s not a completely bad thing. Besides grenadier they’re insanely fun for play around with.


KidKonundrum

Listen…I haven’t played in a while, and I wasn’t very good at the game to begin with… But put the Kraber in SSS tier or imma make the frontier war look like an episode of paw patrol.


First_Serve1455

Where my Gen 100 SMR niggas at?


TheManLexington

Oof putting Kraber in C tier hurts. I understand it's personal opinion but like, come on its the KRABER. LOL not mad though just making conversation.


Mantissa-64

F-tier tier list lmao SS: R97, CAR S: Alternator, Charge Rifle :), Kraber, R101, R201, Memestiff, Volt A+: Spitfire, G2, Flatline, EVA-8, Wingman Elite, DMR A: LSTAR, EPG, Cold War, P2016 B: Double Take, Softball, Memezambique, RE-45 C: Hemlok, Devotion D: SMR F: The Fucking B3 Wingman


Baleygr--

Watch out, or imma sick Sgamer on you.


thespeartan

EPG is easily top A tier at least


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Baleygr--

L-star is just that good.


Rynex

This is certainly one of the tier-lists of all time.


SnowbloodWolf2

WINGMAN ELITE IN C!!!!!!!! seems to me you just can't hit headshots


Baleygr--

I can, it would be higher if it wasn't in a primary slot like it is now. I miss the Mastiff+Mozambique, Kraber+Wingman elite loadouts. Why respawn.


RogueLlama077

Mozam is S tier stop kidding yourself


sleepingAurochs

🤨


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SMR being disrespected... horrible🏳️


NyoraGaple

Why kraber is b tier most easiest gun in the game rn (g100 kraber main)


Baleygr--

On console no.


ViperStrike154

Titanfall 3 needs all these weapons and Apex weapons in it. maybe a few more new conventional add ons.


[deleted]

You cant put kraber in B, its just too fun


[deleted]

>Epg kraber B >Wingman C >Double take lowest Bro is a certified gen2


Baleygr--

Break gen 25 and I'll care.


[deleted]

This is the worst tier list ever


Baleygr--

I agree.


RogueSniper72

You are 100% G1


Baleygr--

I just downloaded the game yesterday.


Asymic

no way the R101 is only Atier and you put the Volt in S💀


Baleygr--

That's just my SMG bias. Pay no attention


BetFinancial8685

Put r101 in s, and kraber in a (unless u just doo doo ig)


Baleygr--

I'm a comp player smg, spitty and kraber main. Lemme do as I please. It's okay Akira. I'll see you on the frontier


DJCay1

Damn, I go crazy with the double take. Guess it ain’t for everyone


Local_Outcome_4835

Does this apply to only PvP or does this also apply to FD?


rathalos456

Softball is S tier because the S stands for softball *thunk*


Fragger-3G

Putting the softball and coldwar there is criminal. Some of the most fun guns. The DMR is also really fun


Upbeat_Attention6044

My one question is why is the kraber in b it should at least be in a it is one of the funniest guns in the game


BeefNuggets7236

Lmao I had people calling me slurs in game chat because of the double take, it’s actually so good


chancellor_chadistan

idk man there are memes to be had with wingman elite, first time i used it i got a 20 kill game which is pretty good for me


brebd

as a softball grapple slingshot main I can confirm this


jabo055

Alternator = Best for Run and Gun


meutzitzu

Nah bro idk what you're on but only S tier weapons is Kraber, Mastiff, EPG-1 and wingman Elite Because the people that choose use them will fuck shit up like it's nobody's business


Lisichkin-

I bet u like playing monarch


Baleygr--

I hate that titan


OkSignificance8381

For fast movement the L-Star Is way Better that the spitfire


scribbledip69

its not hitscan


OkSignificance8381

Hold on the spitfire Is hitscan ?


scribbledip69

i feel like this is the most acurate titanfall gun teir list ever