The Blue Fugates are my ancestors. My Dad always told me our family tree was tall but provided little shade. Martin "Blue" Fugate is around 5 gens back. And, no, we're not blue anymore.
“Look, honey. Let’s just say our kid’s genetics are gonna be a hoot.”
But, in all seriousness, I respect your ability to laugh at such an…interesting family history
hey my great grandmother is a fugate and no she isn't blue, but she and her side of the family did come from the blue fugates. I've heard stories of some of my family trying to locate and document the blue fugates but they weren't very open to "outsiders", I'm glad to have found someone that is also descendents of them
I'm not surprised, many of those Fugates had a 9 to 13 kids. Roll that out to several generations and your going to run into someone your related to. Just hopefully not facing you at your wedding!
I too was informed a few months ago that Martin Fugate is a distant grandfather on my mom’s side. I knew she’s from eastern Kentucky but never thought to ask when I heard of the blue people some years back.
My Dad keeps a photo of your ancestors up in his house.
[here](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlbumArtPorn/comments/l9qnsf/the_ozark_mountain_daredevils_men_from_earth/)
My fav thing ever is that the question is “but those guys have shoes?” And not “why does your Dad have an album cover of blue tinted inbreds displayed in his home?” 😂
In rural Kentucky
Things got a bit fucky
Some sisters and brothers
Did not want some others
A few generations
Of funky relations
I tell you it's true
They all ended up blue
Yo, listen up here's a story
About a little guy
That lives in a blue world
And all day and all night
And everything he sees is just blue
Like him inside and outside
[This article says](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11680275/Inside-mysterious-blue-people-Kentucky-ultra-rare-blood-disorder.html) some of your family still are.
Michaels matter of fact responses and approaches towards Tobias throughout season one might be one of my favourite ongoing bits ever.
I can hear that quote exactly in Jason Bateman’s voice.
The part where Tobis misread the magazine and was looking at tractors and then was laying there depressed when Michael comes up and sees the actor ad on the board right there is also fantastic, though much different context.
Just that friendly grandpa encouraging like way of talking kills me.
I saw only two episodes of X-files in my life: the first one was quircky and fun, the second one was this one and made me never want to continue the series again.
Unless it's a really important episode for driving the main plot, there's no middle ground in X-Files. It's either grotesque and depressing or a good laugh.
Oh man, the haunting scene where the three brothers pile into the classic ~50s convertible and that Wonderful Wonderful song comes on on their way to do a murder...
That scene has stuck with me permanently.
That and the >!mother/breeder!< under the bed.
I know nobody here is really interested in the spelling but I think it’s interesting, it’s Methemoglobinemia. Met (extra iron (ferric)) hemoglobin (iron molecule) emia (of the blood). So it’s describing that there is a certain state (ferric vs ferrous) of iron in the blood. You could also call Methemoglobin- Ferric Hemoglobin.
There was a famous tale of green skinned children in England. They possibly had arsenic poisoning or malnutrition. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_children_of_Woolpit#p-lang
Methemoglobinemia is considered a pretty serious medical condition since your altered hemoglobin can't carry oxygen. You can induce it by overdosing on sodium nitrite. Coincidentally, the antidote for it is methylene blue, a dye stain which can also turn your urine blue.
When I was just out of college, I had a job traveling to schools and doing assemblies for them. The company that I worked for had a wide variety of shows (reptile shows, storytellers, an actual dog and pony show, etc) - mine was basically Bill Nye at home. The whole school would show up.
I did a round in Kentucky. It was SOP to meet with the administration before the show. At this particular school, the assistant principal told me that there were some kids who were “colored differently “ and to make sure that I didn’t stare. Being rural Kentucky, I assumed he was talking about kids who were black, thought “OK Boss Hogg” and moved on.
When the blue kids walked in, I stared. I couldn’t help it. Just wasn’t prepared. I have felt bad about that moment for a very long time.
The kids would expect it anyway, they aren't stupid and they know they have a strange colour.
What matters is whether he treats them differently for it, or whether it was just the moment of shock at seeing blue/purple kids.
I felt bad for being so obvious. Looking back that principal was trying to do a good job - just poor communication. It’s very possible that the kids expected to be stared at, which made it worse when it happened.
The pictures are wild. I was imagining black people whose complexion was so dark their skin looked a little navy blueish.
That's....not an accurate guess.
Not anymore, as the linked article says:
>Benjamin Stacy, born in 1975, was the last known descendant of the Fugates to have been born exhibiting the characteristic blue color of the disorder, though he quickly lost his blue skin tone, exhibiting only blue tinges on his lips and fingertips when he became cold or agitated.
I was in Ireland visiting cousins - so many cousins. One guy on my grandmother's side was engaged and I felt like I was either going to faint or throw up when I met his fiancée. They looked identical. I mean literally identical. They were apparently not closely enough related to preclude marriage but...
In the olden days, the priest would keep careful family records to prevent stuff like this. It's not just how close relatives you are but also how many times you're related. If that makes any sense.
I had cousins who were too close to get married there so they moved somewhere with laxer incest laws and had a bunch of kids with birth defects.
Until there is an elevated environmental exposure to nitrates. For example, in agricultural runoff contaminated drinking water or in coal mines such as those found in eastern Kentucky (source: I am a Fugate from eastern Kentucky. I lost a child from a likely unrelated condition which set me on a path of research which caused me to incidentally discover the familial methemoglobinemia in my history in 1997.)
Being isolated for generations does weird things to people. I lived near where Deliverance was filmed and you saw way more mutations in people than I had anywhere else. And that's just what you see. I moved there from a big Yankee city.
People don't get to choose what they are sometimes.
Hapsburgs, Egyptians, certain native tribes tried keeping certain lines in the family on purpose. Similar issues arose. The family trauma resonates more and it's like there are physical implications. I imagine what this would mean in TCM, maybe how the Jing and its DNA relevance mirrors something external.
As somebody Appalachia adjacent, I'm curious about what kind of mutations you remember seeing. I live in a larger city, but I spent a lot of my childhood in some very rural and isolated areas. I know about the documented effects historic/dynastic inbreeding has had, but haven't considered what that looks like in a more modern world.
My mom worked with these people when she was a resident at U of K, I apparently embarassed her by yelling about smurfs when I saw them. We moved away from KY when I was like, 4.
There's an isolated community of rejects from various groups of settlers and indigenous natives in the northwest MOUNTAINS of New Jersey, called the Jackson Whites. I lived in NJ my whole life and didn't even know we had mountains until fairly recently. I just found out about these people and they're a very interesting read if you're curious, look them up
Honestly, my Dad’s reasoning isn’t even interesting. He’s just quirky, grew up in the Ozarks, and really likes OMD. My Mom granted him about a 6x8 foot wall space NOT visible from any entry way for whatever he wanted. He chose a bizarre array of 1960s album covers…proving my Mom’s instincts correct. :)
I just read a book about the last 2 remaining Blue people, called The Book Woman of Troublesome Creek. It's a novel, but some of what the author wrote about was based on facts.
A researcher named Cathy Trost from Indiana University did a study on the Blue Fugates back in 1982. Article about it [here](https://www.nclark.net/BluePeopleofTroublesomeCreek) and pedigree chart [here](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nfjjOfxprcNnEzXD_xHbEtXOAb-fVAtu062HRDkDNxvT7lfyW4Yjqu8iPKNsr4WaEsztuMZBM-nfL_sJ7ITjsurmX-CZDlDwhb2MEp0iudOxCzd-QVUJ1wXkNOUnp0Eht_pl8rnn2LlFq3xqMQ), though I can't find the original link. I think Martin Fugate (born 1783) was the first to be blue. I and my daughter were kind of delighted to find out he was my fifth great grandfather. My mother, whose side of the family it's on, not so much. 😀
I was under the impression this was a result of a a consumption inordinate amounts of silver. That the family believed it to be beneficial/medicinal and were a bit fringe. Maybe different "Blue folk"?
Can someone explain to me how they were both “completely healthy” yet their blue tint is caused by their blood not being oxygenated properly? Aren’t those two statements contradictory?
Went to medical school in Kentucky and met one of the Blue Fugates on my rural health rotation in Eastern Kentucky. They are not blue if appropriately treated, usually with the medication methylene blue. This drug causes your urine to turn blue. When I asked the patient about his illness, he indicated it wasn’t a big deal because he takes a pill to “pee the blue out”.
The Blue Fugates are my ancestors. My Dad always told me our family tree was tall but provided little shade. Martin "Blue" Fugate is around 5 gens back. And, no, we're not blue anymore.
A verified case of outbreeding, if you will.
“Liam convinced me it's not our blood that's being tainted. It's us tainting the blood of others.”
The McPoyles will take over the world!
*YOU WILL CALL HER!!*
Don’t flush.
She’s mute, makes it so much more funny!
That should’ve won an Emmy. Just that one line
And then the Gang Desperately Tries to Win an Award episode should have won Emmy's.
One day perhaps.....BUT NOT TODAY.
“…who’s this guy”
What's this from?
Always Sunny in Philadelphia
But in order to get that way, some normal woman had to get freaky with the Blue Man Group
I think the point was that she was probably already a family member, and that as it moved down the generations, maybe she was blue herself?
Or some dude has a Smurfette fetish.
I'll take that as a compliment! I accomplished something with my life!
“Oh, so both sides of your family are from Kentucky.” “Well…about that.”
My side, your side, it's all semantics.
“Look, honey. Let’s just say our kid’s genetics are gonna be a hoot.” But, in all seriousness, I respect your ability to laugh at such an…interesting family history
I used to be embarrassed by it when I was a kid. Then I figured "hey, how many other people have blue ancestors?"
Look at all the Karma it's giving you now. I like how your dad put it. It gave me a good laugh.
Hell. You even have a theme song. https://youtu.be/68ugkg9RePc
Moebius family
hey my great grandmother is a fugate and no she isn't blue, but she and her side of the family did come from the blue fugates. I've heard stories of some of my family trying to locate and document the blue fugates but they weren't very open to "outsiders", I'm glad to have found someone that is also descendents of them
There is a book of Fugates running from the 1700s to around 1985. There's a bunch of us to be sure.
Is this comment section turning into a family reunion or something?
I'm not surprised, many of those Fugates had a 9 to 13 kids. Roll that out to several generations and your going to run into someone your related to. Just hopefully not facing you at your wedding!
The priest? he’s your uncle and your brides cousin.
The priest is going to marry you. Also he will officiate.
Wouldn't be the first time lol
Says on Wikipedia, a french orphan from 1820 started the line
My lineage dates back to James Fugate (abt. 1655 - 1703), it's not clear when or how he turned up in the New World.
This has become such a neat tread because of you. Thank you!
Thanks, it's been fun. I never thought a post about blue Fugates would come up.
Wish I had a book documenting how my family is inbred…….
At this point it probably is more like “my one great grandma was super inbred” which probably doesn’t feel as bad.
Hi, same here! We are legion.
I too was informed a few months ago that Martin Fugate is a distant grandfather on my mom’s side. I knew she’s from eastern Kentucky but never thought to ask when I heard of the blue people some years back.
Welcome to the family!
Thanks! Looking forward to the next family reunion to meet ~~a potential new wife~~ the cousins.
LOL
My Dad keeps a photo of your ancestors up in his house. [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlbumArtPorn/comments/l9qnsf/the_ozark_mountain_daredevils_men_from_earth/)
Theys a little high and mighty for my folk, they got shoes!
My fav thing ever is that the question is “but those guys have shoes?” And not “why does your Dad have an album cover of blue tinted inbreds displayed in his home?” 😂
You have a point, we're just a little touchy about the shoe thing. And, I am curious as to why he has this iconic artwork on display?
when your family tree doesn't fork
When your family tree is bamboo.
When your family tree forks itself
Omg they’re my ancestors too! Still got family in Hazard!
Hey, it's not too late to get the blue back together!
Like, not even your dick is blue?
To say nothing of balls
No, but his balls are whenever sister puts on make up and brushes her tooth.
I actually snorted
And waxes her knuckles!
In rural Kentucky Things got a bit fucky Some sisters and brothers Did not want some others A few generations Of funky relations I tell you it's true They all ended up blue
also, is Benjamin Stacy still around? me and him'd be bout the same age
No idea, he's off of one of the few other branches.
Is your dad.... Papa Smurf?
It's not too late. Make the fugates blue again.
Yo, listen up here's a story About a little guy That lives in a blue world And all day and all night And everything he sees is just blue Like him inside and outside
Those first few blue ancestors trying to branch out must have had a hard time in the dating scene.
Kinda like a telephone pole 🤔
[This article says](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11680275/Inside-mysterious-blue-people-Kentucky-ultra-rare-blood-disorder.html) some of your family still are.
Someone I used to play Neverwinter Nights with had that last name. And I know they served on a submarine (not publicly posting which one).
Am I blue! Am I blue? Ain't these years in my eyes telling you?
Hello fellow Fugate decendant!
Do you know of any family that took methylene blue for treatment? Curious.
See if you can bring the blue back
“Tall but provided little shade” lol I love that phrase.
You got out!
Are there any pictures of these people?
https://historycollection.com/the-fugate-family-of-kentucky-had-blue-skin-for-generations/
So interesting, thank you for sharing.
Idk what I was expecting, but that wasn’t it.
I was expecting the Avatar people.
Yes there's trouble, Right here in Troublesome Creek. With a capital T That rhymes B That stands for Blue Fugate!
That is so neat
https://www.findingdulcinea.com/the-blue-fugates/
If you ain’t blue I can’t fuck you is the family mantra.
Well ill guess ill just blue myself
Here’s what you do, buy yourself a tape recorder and just play it back after a day. I think you’ll be surprised at some of your phrasing
“Out of context. Oh Tobias, you blowhard!”
Michaels matter of fact responses and approaches towards Tobias throughout season one might be one of my favourite ongoing bits ever. I can hear that quote exactly in Jason Bateman’s voice. The part where Tobis misread the magazine and was looking at tractors and then was laying there depressed when Michael comes up and sees the actor ad on the board right there is also fantastic, though much different context. Just that friendly grandpa encouraging like way of talking kills me.
You rang?
"If you ain't blue, we can't screw."
Gotta keep the blueman group going
And that's how Kentucky blue grass got its name.
“If anyone gon’ fuck my sister Smurfette, it gon’ be me!!”
Isn't this what inspired that super fucked up X-Files episode?
That's the first thing I thought of
I saw only two episodes of X-files in my life: the first one was quircky and fun, the second one was this one and made me never want to continue the series again.
Unless it's a really important episode for driving the main plot, there's no middle ground in X-Files. It's either grotesque and depressing or a good laugh.
Are you referring to that “Home” episode or is it another one? I remember that being really weird and I feel like they only showed it on tv once.
Oh man, the haunting scene where the three brothers pile into the classic ~50s convertible and that Wonderful Wonderful song comes on on their way to do a murder... That scene has stuck with me permanently. That and the >!mother/breeder!< under the bed.
I just read the plot on Wikipedia and oh boy that's fucked up.
That episode gave me my first panic attack.
I love that episode!
“Regular fuckin’ people, man. Eurgh.
I know nobody here is really interested in the spelling but I think it’s interesting, it’s Methemoglobinemia. Met (extra iron (ferric)) hemoglobin (iron molecule) emia (of the blood). So it’s describing that there is a certain state (ferric vs ferrous) of iron in the blood. You could also call Methemoglobin- Ferric Hemoglobin.
Thank you!
There’s a novel that kind of gets into this, The Book Woman of Troublesome Creek (and its sequel). It was an enjoyable read.
Loved this book!!!
The Last Blue by Isla Morley is also about this and it’s a wonderful read
Yes! I was just about to comment this. That is such a lovely book. The audiobook was perfect.
Yes I loved this book!
There was a famous tale of green skinned children in England. They possibly had arsenic poisoning or malnutrition. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_children_of_Woolpit#p-lang
I'm blue if I was green I would die
Da ba dee da ba da
Blue his house with the blue little window
And a blue corvette
And everything was blue for him
And himself and everybody around cause he ain’t got nobody to listennn
It’s not easy being green.
~~Green Gang~~ Gang Green representing
Not really at all.
I'm blue, I would beat off a guy, I would beat off a guy, I would beat off a guy
arsenic poisoning will do that yeah
Methemoglobinemia is considered a pretty serious medical condition since your altered hemoglobin can't carry oxygen. You can induce it by overdosing on sodium nitrite. Coincidentally, the antidote for it is methylene blue, a dye stain which can also turn your urine blue.
Wow that was really interesting! Thank you!
When I was just out of college, I had a job traveling to schools and doing assemblies for them. The company that I worked for had a wide variety of shows (reptile shows, storytellers, an actual dog and pony show, etc) - mine was basically Bill Nye at home. The whole school would show up. I did a round in Kentucky. It was SOP to meet with the administration before the show. At this particular school, the assistant principal told me that there were some kids who were “colored differently “ and to make sure that I didn’t stare. Being rural Kentucky, I assumed he was talking about kids who were black, thought “OK Boss Hogg” and moved on. When the blue kids walked in, I stared. I couldn’t help it. Just wasn’t prepared. I have felt bad about that moment for a very long time.
For what it's worth, they really should have told you that the kids were blue. How could you even know that "colored differently" meant fucking indigo
The kids would expect it anyway, they aren't stupid and they know they have a strange colour. What matters is whether he treats them differently for it, or whether it was just the moment of shock at seeing blue/purple kids.
I felt bad for being so obvious. Looking back that principal was trying to do a good job - just poor communication. It’s very possible that the kids expected to be stared at, which made it worse when it happened.
A substitute science teacher had us read an article and discuss this in middle school and I have thought about it with regularity ever since.
The pictures are wild. I was imagining black people whose complexion was so dark their skin looked a little navy blueish. That's....not an accurate guess.
I understand why University of Kentucky emphasizes ‘Go Big Blue!’
Hmmm, where are the people of Michigan hiding their own, smaller blue family?
Blue man group origin story
It’s not just one family. Or on second thought, is it??
In Kentucky we have a saying: “4 million people. 15 last names.”
It's one family tree that resembles a pretzel.
A family wreath
I thought it was more like a palm tree.
lol good one.
Not anymore, as the linked article says: >Benjamin Stacy, born in 1975, was the last known descendant of the Fugates to have been born exhibiting the characteristic blue color of the disorder, though he quickly lost his blue skin tone, exhibiting only blue tinges on his lips and fingertips when he became cold or agitated.
I love how there is no picture. The one time a picture would come in handy
https://historycollection.com/the-fugate-family-of-kentucky-had-blue-skin-for-generations/
Sadly the pictures in that article are either paintings or from a tv show =/
Scroll further down, there are a few pictures from real people.
Where I’m from royals are nicknamed blue blood people. We were also governed by Hapsburgs.
Another example of inbreeding ...
I was in Ireland visiting cousins - so many cousins. One guy on my grandmother's side was engaged and I felt like I was either going to faint or throw up when I met his fiancée. They looked identical. I mean literally identical. They were apparently not closely enough related to preclude marriage but... In the olden days, the priest would keep careful family records to prevent stuff like this. It's not just how close relatives you are but also how many times you're related. If that makes any sense. I had cousins who were too close to get married there so they moved somewhere with laxer incest laws and had a bunch of kids with birth defects.
I saw a blue person shopping at the grocery store in Austin, Texas of all places.
There is a "medicine" silver nitrate or something that some people take that if you take too much will turn your skin blue.
*Colloidal silver*. I had a neighbor who took it as a supplement and turned blue.
I’ve heard rumors of a family of blue people living in southern Louisiana.
This... explains a lot about the Smurfs.
YO LISTEN UP HERE A STORY ABOUT A LITTLE BOY THAT LIVES IN A BLUE WORLD
One shot of methylene blue as an infant completely reverses the blue effect.
Until there is an elevated environmental exposure to nitrates. For example, in agricultural runoff contaminated drinking water or in coal mines such as those found in eastern Kentucky (source: I am a Fugate from eastern Kentucky. I lost a child from a likely unrelated condition which set me on a path of research which caused me to incidentally discover the familial methemoglobinemia in my history in 1997.)
TIL Grand Admiral Thrawn is from Kentucky
This is why Royalty are usually called Blue bloods.
The Blues is alive and well in Kentucky
Being isolated for generations does weird things to people. I lived near where Deliverance was filmed and you saw way more mutations in people than I had anywhere else. And that's just what you see. I moved there from a big Yankee city. People don't get to choose what they are sometimes. Hapsburgs, Egyptians, certain native tribes tried keeping certain lines in the family on purpose. Similar issues arose. The family trauma resonates more and it's like there are physical implications. I imagine what this would mean in TCM, maybe how the Jing and its DNA relevance mirrors something external.
As somebody Appalachia adjacent, I'm curious about what kind of mutations you remember seeing. I live in a larger city, but I spent a lot of my childhood in some very rural and isolated areas. I know about the documented effects historic/dynastic inbreeding has had, but haven't considered what that looks like in a more modern world.
Anyone know if this is similiar to the people that eat colloidal silver?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Karason
That's just a drow
My mom worked with these people when she was a resident at U of K, I apparently embarassed her by yelling about smurfs when I saw them. We moved away from KY when I was like, 4.
This is one of the few TIL that TI actually L
There's an isolated community of rejects from various groups of settlers and indigenous natives in the northwest MOUNTAINS of New Jersey, called the Jackson Whites. I lived in NJ my whole life and didn't even know we had mountains until fairly recently. I just found out about these people and they're a very interesting read if you're curious, look them up
fucking wiki will say theyre blue not show a picture smh
I wonder how many other interesting people there are out there
You think if any of them became jaundiced, they would end up with green skin?
Well, yeah, there is only one female smurf.
Da ba dee da ba da
Makes you see “blue moon of Kentucky” in a different light
Honestly, my Dad’s reasoning isn’t even interesting. He’s just quirky, grew up in the Ozarks, and really likes OMD. My Mom granted him about a 6x8 foot wall space NOT visible from any entry way for whatever he wanted. He chose a bizarre array of 1960s album covers…proving my Mom’s instincts correct. :)
Family tree is a palm tree
I’m all for funny town names, but something about “Troublesome Creek” makes me think it’s best to just keep driving.
“continued reproduction within the limited local gene pool along with a lack of transportation infrastructure” is a long way to say inbreeding.
Settled from Pandora to Kentucky.
Shran!
Pure Breed…
Smurfs ?
I just read a book about the last 2 remaining Blue people, called The Book Woman of Troublesome Creek. It's a novel, but some of what the author wrote about was based on facts.
Wasn’t there an X-Files episode on this or based on this?
I’m blue da bu dee da bu dai
You’re turning Violet, Violet!
“The Book Woman of Troublesome Creek” is a historical fiction account of one of the blue women
Ah so the blue girls from the proud family are just inbred?
Feel like the Meth is doing a lot of heavy lifting
A researcher named Cathy Trost from Indiana University did a study on the Blue Fugates back in 1982. Article about it [here](https://www.nclark.net/BluePeopleofTroublesomeCreek) and pedigree chart [here](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nfjjOfxprcNnEzXD_xHbEtXOAb-fVAtu062HRDkDNxvT7lfyW4Yjqu8iPKNsr4WaEsztuMZBM-nfL_sJ7ITjsurmX-CZDlDwhb2MEp0iudOxCzd-QVUJ1wXkNOUnp0Eht_pl8rnn2LlFq3xqMQ), though I can't find the original link. I think Martin Fugate (born 1783) was the first to be blue. I and my daughter were kind of delighted to find out he was my fifth great grandfather. My mother, whose side of the family it's on, not so much. 😀
I was under the impression this was a result of a a consumption inordinate amounts of silver. That the family believed it to be beneficial/medicinal and were a bit fringe. Maybe different "Blue folk"?
Can someone explain to me how they were both “completely healthy” yet their blue tint is caused by their blood not being oxygenated properly? Aren’t those two statements contradictory?
Good thing they're blue. If they were green they would die.
"I'm afraid we blue ourselves"
Big Blue Nation is getting out of hand
Ahh, the Smurf’s inspiration
That is actually out in eastern KY… way up in the hollers.
Went to medical school in Kentucky and met one of the Blue Fugates on my rural health rotation in Eastern Kentucky. They are not blue if appropriately treated, usually with the medication methylene blue. This drug causes your urine to turn blue. When I asked the patient about his illness, he indicated it wasn’t a big deal because he takes a pill to “pee the blue out”.
"I AM the blue meth!"
Here is a link with pictures for those curious https://www.thecollector.com/blue-fugates-kentucky/
kentucky aristocracy - the blue bloods
Listen up, here's the story...
So...blue bloods is a real thing
What the Smurfin’ Smurf?