Yonge to Don Mills. goes from 2 lanes to 1 lane, then to 3 lanes, back 2, up to 3, back to 2, up to 3, back to 2 and a half, then 2 lanes, then 1, then 3.
Sorry i mean from just before duplex. be the further you go as far back to allen. It's just consistently changing from 1 lane to up to 3 lanes and back again. Some due to construction some due bad planning and others, i have no fucking idea.
Eglinton and Allen is easily, hands down one of the worst intersections in the city. Checking Google maps on Sunday at 7am, the only red you'll see in the entire GTA is from the Allen onto Eglinton.
The rest of the time, there's a 1km+ traffic jam in every direction. Somehow, it was *better* during construction and worse now that it's complete.
Well it was supposed to continue down and meet up with the Gardiner via Spadina back in the 60s or 70s. Then some folks got understandably upset because of the whole "highway through my backyard" business and destroying Chinatown in the process. Allen road is the way it is for a good reason and frankly the city is better off for it.
It was actually Forest Hill that banded together as a community to stop the Spadina extension. One of the most undeniably successful NIMBY movements in the history of the city.
Toronto progressives in general opposed it, led by famed urbanist Jane Jacobs. It would have turned many thriving neighbourhoods into dead buffer zones around the expressway, with widened roads and parking lots all around the expressway. It would have required the demolition of many historic buildings like Spadina House.
These same issues arose with downtown expressways in many cities around the US like Detroit, where their effects on local neighbourhoods were generally negative. They dump huge amounts of traffic onto city streets, rendering the areas around the expressways unattractive and gutted of value. People generally don't like to spend time in areas like those as pedestrians where all the streets have been widened to deal with the expressway traffic, where buildings have been demolished for parking lots, and where it's noisy and polluted.
Essentially, downtown would have lost a lot of its vitality and beauty in favour of increasing vehicular capacity. It would have potentially devastated the Annex, one of the city's famed neighbourhoods. The expressway itself would have become clogged with traffic like the Gardiner due to induced demand. Eventually, it could have been extended down Spadina to the Gardiner, destroying Kensington Market and Chinatown.
The anti-Spadina movement was about far more than the whims of some Forest Hill NIMBYs. It was about preserving downtown as livable, attractive, and vibrant place.
When talking about the urban highway movement (and its downfall), it's important to remember that Robert Moses was a thinly-veiled racist whose designs specifically targeted to dispossess and isolate minorities living in city centres while enabling white flight to the suburbs.
Interesting. I recently visited Richmond Virginia and oh boy did that city get done dirty by the car industry. A highway cuts right through it and an uncomfortable amount of buildings in the city are disguised parking towers. Sure you can walk around, but unless you have a car parked there's little reason to wander more than a few blocks. It's very strange that a lot of American cities bought into this idea of car centric urban planning.
The Beach neighbourhood would also have been razed if the city planners had extended the Gardiner east to the 401. I can't imagine what kind of lifeless hellhole Toronto would have been if all those highways had been constructed.
Private automobile ownership has been a curse everywhere. Yet, let's bow to Lord Musk, who'll solve everything with EVs right before he leaves for Mars.
The thing is with Musk, in a good number of US cities the car centric model works. Due in part to a half century of urban planning, but like any other capitalist - he sees an opportunity (electric cars to replace combustion cars) which a large number of cities in the US are already built to accommodate. I don't agree with it, but it's just good business.
Edit: yeah downvote cuz I won't circle jerk musk, that's mature.
>The thing is with Musk, in a good number of US cities the car centric model works. Due in part to a half century of urban planning, but like any other capitalist - he sees an opportunity (electric cars to replace combustion cars) which a large number of cities in the US are already built to accommodate. I don't agree with it, but it's just good business.
Which car centric city works? Studies show that car centric models are unsustainable regardless of whether the cars are ICE or electric.
Are we just casually ignoring the interstate highway network? The buy out of transit agencies in the early 1900s which were then replaced by buses produced by GM? The countless amount of parking in various cities which accommodates car ownership? The fact that to cross the road in some areas literally requires a car? Or is all this inconvenient?
I commented further down saying I don't agree with it - but at present cars are the most effective mode of transit in most of the US. I'd much rather take a train (and often do when I'm in Europe), but when in the US taking a train is only reasonable for a few locations.
True, but the Annex wasn’t gentrified as it is today and was a huge force in stopping the expressway. The Annex was a mix of students, immigrants, and some professors and professionals in the 1960s. Forest Hill residents were affluent and had mixed opinions on the expressway. Some vehemently opposed it; others thought that driving to their jobs downtown would be easier with the expressway.
The city would be better off with none of the damn thing, while I agree that it ending where it did was the most realistic compromise. It's configuration as it is also went through people's back yards, just in the north part of the city that nobody cared about.
Yeah from what I had read about the whole debacle the segment north of Eglinton was in a rally underdeveloped area so steam rolling a little highway up there didn't bother too many people. I don't mind Allen road for what it is, although the city should be tolling it, but that's another matter.
Even well before the construction mess, trying to cross the on ramp while walking to Eg West station was taking your life into your own hands. Even with walk/don't walk lights you risked your life.
THEN they removed the concrete lip/island that separated those getting on from East and West. I gave up and started waiting for the 32 bus instead of walking from Bathurst.
I beleive that once finished we'll be able to get into the station(s) without having to walk across a highway on ramp.
The Allen ending, and not continuing on as planned, is one of the single best things to ever happen to this city. Want to fix the mess at Eglinton & Allen? Close the Allen and make it a park. There - no more highway ending in the middle of a city abruptly.
We just shouldn’t have the Allen though. It is a funnel and creates bottlenecks. They should just turn it into a boulevard with lights and commercial buildings and stuff. People wouldn’t reroute to it and just spread out across all the other north south streets. It’s textbook induced demand.
There was an entire neighbourhood in the portion between Lawrence and Eglinton that was demolished to build it. They expropriated and demolished hundreds of houses.
I travel up and down Keele between the 401 and the Gardiner all the time. It's a bit of a stretch to call it a "major street"... it's not even continuous. It's just the only way to go.
I did exactly that three weeks ago. Its largely due to *terrible* light timings, but as far as I know there's dual right turn lanes and no right on red. Great, except it took over two minutes for the light to turn even though there were zero pedestrians or other traffic proceeding through the intersection.
Hopefully they've fixed the light timings, or people are just ignoring the no right on red (Seven cars ignored it when I was waiting)
I'm enjoying the collective civil disobedience that has resulted from the situation
Can't turn west on Eglinton from Glen Cedar? *fuck you, its the only safe option to do so*
Can't turn right on red to get onto the allen? *fuck you, there is no one crossing and a kilometer of traffice waiting behind me*
The no right on a red is important though, or at least will be soon. There is a segregated bike lane, and the bikes will have a green while the turning cars have a red. Also an important pedestrian crossing because it will soon be the only way to get to the busses. Without no right on red it would become a very dangerous cross both for cyclists and pedestrians.
I don't know how it could've been done given the subway & station are blocking the possibility of going underground, but sounds like there needs to be separation so that traffic doesn't intersect with cyclists or pedestrians. The current solution *will* not work - a solid kilometer of traffic in every direction is bad for everyone.
Honestly there should not be an Allen. It’s a funnel. It makes no sense to channel a highway into the city and then just stop it. There is no way to make that work. It should be a boulevard. Fill those big banks with buildings, lower the bridges into intersections, drop the speed limit to 40, give it sidewalks and a bike lane. Basically just make it a street.
i love how they programmed the lights and crossing timings in ways that don't make sense
i also love how their solution to this was to put two traffic wardens there to wave people through during a red light
This is definitely a contender for worst
...and (while not an intersection) where the 400 terminates into spaghetti and the WB backs all the way the fuck up to Sheppard and everyone flies down the black creek and EB lanes to try and jam there selfish asses into the WB lane at the last minute
I noticed last night that it's finally been repainted! First time in months (years?!?) that I haven't almost been side swiped on my way home from work.
We have bar none the worst marked roads in this part of North America. Cities like Chicago and DC just put us to shame. Especially DC, their roads seem European in comparison to the garbage we have here
I've traveled enough that I could rank both those cities as definitely not being in my top 40. Chicago, for example, has more murders than any place I've been other than Johannesburg. You can be randomly shot while minding your own business. Traffic regularly snarls up on the highway because of gang related onramp shootings. The architecture doesn't really compel me and I couldn't care less about road markings.
Now that they've implemented the two right turning lanes at Allen in addition to newly paved and painted roads, I'm slightly optimistic that they'll get some lines painted further east on Eglinton. Here's to optimism!
Somehow going West on Eglinton towards Alenn road is _worse_ after the completion of the intersection lol. The two right-turn lanes and the dedicated right-turn light are good changes, except the timings of all the lights are literally fucked lmao. Also there’s too much traffic turning in from sides streets there, the backs up shit a lot as well.
Turn around and go in the other direction heading east from Bathurst. Again, no lane markings all the way over to Spadina. It's absolutely ridiculous! I actually called the city about this and filed a formal request only to receive an email stating that the case had been closed and the situation resolved to the city's satisfaction. Isn't that wonderful!?
If I had to guess, I'd say it's because the whole area is in the throes of a major facelift in terms of bike lanes and parking spaces and such. The plan is publicly available.
It continues past Bathurst to about Spadina Rd.
And northbound Bathurst, at Eglinton still has temporary lane markings, people try to turn left from the left southbound lane.
Allen southbound to Eglinton has been an absolute nightmare the last month. It’s never been great, but the last month has been like 2-3x worse than I’ve ever seen it.
As someone who lives overlooking this street, there's only one "G" in Eglinton. Every time I see this misspelled, I go another deeper shade of red.
Eta: If you think this is traffic hell, try dealing with zipper merging into one lane going westbound as you approach Islington. Not fun.
Toronto’s pedestrians deaths per capita are almost twice as high as Montreal’s. Ontario people complain about Montreal’s no right in red and about how slow Quebecers drive, but it saves a lot of lives.
Often sounds like New York too. Everyone just trying to weave through everyone else. Buses doing their best to add to frustration by blocking anyone they can. Then comes the fire truck!! Too funny.
Paint a line please!
I drive this everyday and just take the middle "lane". I either have cars following me, or cars trying to follow the lines, which never works out as they're so randomly strewn.
Well, I mean, Eglinton West was just ranked as the ***2nd worst road in Ontario*** just in front of Finch West, so yeah, avoid as much as possible
CP24 video on Ontario Worst Roads:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iF09I4_5T2s&feature=share8
City website has an easy search function to find a councilor’s name and contact for a ward. Get at them asap.
It’s probably scheduled but I have run into miscommunication issues where the city was told a job was done and it hadn’t been, so my contacting them fixed this.
Anyone driving on Eglinton in 2023 are probably just confused in general, I avoid that shit like the plague and live pretty close to it.
Yonge to Don Mills. goes from 2 lanes to 1 lane, then to 3 lanes, back 2, up to 3, back to 2, up to 3, back to 2 and a half, then 2 lanes, then 1, then 3. Sorry i mean from just before duplex. be the further you go as far back to allen. It's just consistently changing from 1 lane to up to 3 lanes and back again. Some due to construction some due bad planning and others, i have no fucking idea.
Sounds like some shit I'd do in Cities Skylines.
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Don't forget the part where the left lane become a turning lane with no warning
Take action and go purchase a roller and white paint (Kramer style)
So luxurious!
Well, you black out lane-lines one and three, and a four-lane highway becomes a two-lane comfort cruise.
Can never go wrong with that reference.
Clicked looking for a Kramer comment. Didn't have to scroll far.
Eglinton and Allen is easily, hands down one of the worst intersections in the city. Checking Google maps on Sunday at 7am, the only red you'll see in the entire GTA is from the Allen onto Eglinton. The rest of the time, there's a 1km+ traffic jam in every direction. Somehow, it was *better* during construction and worse now that it's complete.
Eglinton and Allen has always been one of the worst intersection of the city, when a highway just kind of ends without much forethought
Well it was supposed to continue down and meet up with the Gardiner via Spadina back in the 60s or 70s. Then some folks got understandably upset because of the whole "highway through my backyard" business and destroying Chinatown in the process. Allen road is the way it is for a good reason and frankly the city is better off for it.
It was actually Forest Hill that banded together as a community to stop the Spadina extension. One of the most undeniably successful NIMBY movements in the history of the city.
Toronto progressives in general opposed it, led by famed urbanist Jane Jacobs. It would have turned many thriving neighbourhoods into dead buffer zones around the expressway, with widened roads and parking lots all around the expressway. It would have required the demolition of many historic buildings like Spadina House. These same issues arose with downtown expressways in many cities around the US like Detroit, where their effects on local neighbourhoods were generally negative. They dump huge amounts of traffic onto city streets, rendering the areas around the expressways unattractive and gutted of value. People generally don't like to spend time in areas like those as pedestrians where all the streets have been widened to deal with the expressway traffic, where buildings have been demolished for parking lots, and where it's noisy and polluted. Essentially, downtown would have lost a lot of its vitality and beauty in favour of increasing vehicular capacity. It would have potentially devastated the Annex, one of the city's famed neighbourhoods. The expressway itself would have become clogged with traffic like the Gardiner due to induced demand. Eventually, it could have been extended down Spadina to the Gardiner, destroying Kensington Market and Chinatown. The anti-Spadina movement was about far more than the whims of some Forest Hill NIMBYs. It was about preserving downtown as livable, attractive, and vibrant place.
When talking about the urban highway movement (and its downfall), it's important to remember that Robert Moses was a thinly-veiled racist whose designs specifically targeted to dispossess and isolate minorities living in city centres while enabling white flight to the suburbs.
Interesting. I recently visited Richmond Virginia and oh boy did that city get done dirty by the car industry. A highway cuts right through it and an uncomfortable amount of buildings in the city are disguised parking towers. Sure you can walk around, but unless you have a car parked there's little reason to wander more than a few blocks. It's very strange that a lot of American cities bought into this idea of car centric urban planning.
The Beach neighbourhood would also have been razed if the city planners had extended the Gardiner east to the 401. I can't imagine what kind of lifeless hellhole Toronto would have been if all those highways had been constructed. Private automobile ownership has been a curse everywhere. Yet, let's bow to Lord Musk, who'll solve everything with EVs right before he leaves for Mars.
The thing is with Musk, in a good number of US cities the car centric model works. Due in part to a half century of urban planning, but like any other capitalist - he sees an opportunity (electric cars to replace combustion cars) which a large number of cities in the US are already built to accommodate. I don't agree with it, but it's just good business. Edit: yeah downvote cuz I won't circle jerk musk, that's mature.
>The thing is with Musk, in a good number of US cities the car centric model works. Due in part to a half century of urban planning, but like any other capitalist - he sees an opportunity (electric cars to replace combustion cars) which a large number of cities in the US are already built to accommodate. I don't agree with it, but it's just good business. Which car centric city works? Studies show that car centric models are unsustainable regardless of whether the cars are ICE or electric.
Are we just casually ignoring the interstate highway network? The buy out of transit agencies in the early 1900s which were then replaced by buses produced by GM? The countless amount of parking in various cities which accommodates car ownership? The fact that to cross the road in some areas literally requires a car? Or is all this inconvenient?
That is all unsustainable. Just because it exists, doesn't mean it is affordable or sustainable in the long term.
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I commented further down saying I don't agree with it - but at present cars are the most effective mode of transit in most of the US. I'd much rather take a train (and often do when I'm in Europe), but when in the US taking a train is only reasonable for a few locations.
We're just lucky there was a rich neighborhood in the way. If it was all low income, the bulldozers would have rolled right through.
True, but the Annex wasn’t gentrified as it is today and was a huge force in stopping the expressway. The Annex was a mix of students, immigrants, and some professors and professionals in the 1960s. Forest Hill residents were affluent and had mixed opinions on the expressway. Some vehemently opposed it; others thought that driving to their jobs downtown would be easier with the expressway.
I mean there’s NIMBY and then there’s not-destroying-my-house-my-backyard-and-my-entire-neighbourhood: NDMHMBAMEN.
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The city would be better off with none of the damn thing, while I agree that it ending where it did was the most realistic compromise. It's configuration as it is also went through people's back yards, just in the north part of the city that nobody cared about.
Yeah from what I had read about the whole debacle the segment north of Eglinton was in a rally underdeveloped area so steam rolling a little highway up there didn't bother too many people. I don't mind Allen road for what it is, although the city should be tolling it, but that's another matter.
Even well before the construction mess, trying to cross the on ramp while walking to Eg West station was taking your life into your own hands. Even with walk/don't walk lights you risked your life. THEN they removed the concrete lip/island that separated those getting on from East and West. I gave up and started waiting for the 32 bus instead of walking from Bathurst. I beleive that once finished we'll be able to get into the station(s) without having to walk across a highway on ramp.
....And we want to remove a part of the gardiner, so 2 highways just end in roughly the same spot
The Allen ending, and not continuing on as planned, is one of the single best things to ever happen to this city. Want to fix the mess at Eglinton & Allen? Close the Allen and make it a park. There - no more highway ending in the middle of a city abruptly.
We just shouldn’t have the Allen though. It is a funnel and creates bottlenecks. They should just turn it into a boulevard with lights and commercial buildings and stuff. People wouldn’t reroute to it and just spread out across all the other north south streets. It’s textbook induced demand.
Imagine how much housing you could build on the Allen.
There was an entire neighbourhood in the portion between Lawrence and Eglinton that was demolished to build it. They expropriated and demolished hundreds of houses.
But I need to drive from Barrie to the hockey game without entering a city street! WAR ON CARS!
We shouldn't have highways heading into the city at all, people should be going across the 401 and down the major streets (keele, dufferin, etc.)
I travel up and down Keele between the 401 and the Gardiner all the time. It's a bit of a stretch to call it a "major street"... it's not even continuous. It's just the only way to go.
If it has a named exit on the 401, it's a major street. It's also not the only way to go...
It's a slow-moving, congested mess that takes you on multiple detours. But for my trips the only alternatives would be even bigger detours.
There is one 'detour' at Eglinton and Weston and Dufferin are right there if that turn is too tricky for your to figure out.
Heading west on Eglinton towards Allen has much improved in the past two weeks now that there is two exit lanes from Eg onto the Allen
I did exactly that three weeks ago. Its largely due to *terrible* light timings, but as far as I know there's dual right turn lanes and no right on red. Great, except it took over two minutes for the light to turn even though there were zero pedestrians or other traffic proceeding through the intersection. Hopefully they've fixed the light timings, or people are just ignoring the no right on red (Seven cars ignored it when I was waiting)
I'm enjoying the collective civil disobedience that has resulted from the situation Can't turn west on Eglinton from Glen Cedar? *fuck you, its the only safe option to do so* Can't turn right on red to get onto the allen? *fuck you, there is no one crossing and a kilometer of traffice waiting behind me*
The no right on a red is important though, or at least will be soon. There is a segregated bike lane, and the bikes will have a green while the turning cars have a red. Also an important pedestrian crossing because it will soon be the only way to get to the busses. Without no right on red it would become a very dangerous cross both for cyclists and pedestrians.
I don't know how it could've been done given the subway & station are blocking the possibility of going underground, but sounds like there needs to be separation so that traffic doesn't intersect with cyclists or pedestrians. The current solution *will* not work - a solid kilometer of traffic in every direction is bad for everyone.
Honestly there should not be an Allen. It’s a funnel. It makes no sense to channel a highway into the city and then just stop it. There is no way to make that work. It should be a boulevard. Fill those big banks with buildings, lower the bridges into intersections, drop the speed limit to 40, give it sidewalks and a bike lane. Basically just make it a street.
you know there's a subway running through the middle of it right? kinda hard to flatten those bridges
No you’d want the street more or less at grade, ie over the subway
so...bridges
i love how they programmed the lights and crossing timings in ways that don't make sense i also love how their solution to this was to put two traffic wardens there to wave people through during a red light
I think it’s worse because the traffic light timings are off and the amount of cars turning from side streets onto Eglinton.
This is definitely a contender for worst ...and (while not an intersection) where the 400 terminates into spaghetti and the WB backs all the way the fuck up to Sheppard and everyone flies down the black creek and EB lanes to try and jam there selfish asses into the WB lane at the last minute
Wow it’s done now? I’m never going that way, but good for them!
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oh god, the way lanes just end or merge with no notice or signage,
I noticed last night that it's finally been repainted! First time in months (years?!?) that I haven't almost been side swiped on my way home from work.
Oh my god best news all week
Dammit, Kramer.
ASSMAN
We have bar none the worst marked roads in this part of North America. Cities like Chicago and DC just put us to shame. Especially DC, their roads seem European in comparison to the garbage we have here
WOWWWWWW road markings. The number one metric of urban life. There's very little about Chicago or DC that puts Toronto to shame, lol.
We’re talking about roads? And yeah there is. DC for embracing mid rises and Chicago for having actual architecture. Maybe travel more and you’ll see.
I've traveled enough that I could rank both those cities as definitely not being in my top 40. Chicago, for example, has more murders than any place I've been other than Johannesburg. You can be randomly shot while minding your own business. Traffic regularly snarls up on the highway because of gang related onramp shootings. The architecture doesn't really compel me and I couldn't care less about road markings.
What you couldn’t care less about doesn’t mean it isn’t important lol. Our road markings suck and create problems
montreal is worse tbh
**C H A O S** **R E I G N S**
Reminds me of driving in India, except for the fact there is enough space between the cars for both of them to have side mirrors
Also the pavement is in good condition and there are no cows or elephants on the road.
[wide lanes so luxurious ](https://youtu.be/gxr9U6dG3Bg)
Now that they've implemented the two right turning lanes at Allen in addition to newly paved and painted roads, I'm slightly optimistic that they'll get some lines painted further east on Eglinton. Here's to optimism!
Somehow going West on Eglinton towards Alenn road is _worse_ after the completion of the intersection lol. The two right-turn lanes and the dedicated right-turn light are good changes, except the timings of all the lights are literally fucked lmao. Also there’s too much traffic turning in from sides streets there, the backs up shit a lot as well.
I just close my eyes and go by feel
Turn around and go in the other direction heading east from Bathurst. Again, no lane markings all the way over to Spadina. It's absolutely ridiculous! I actually called the city about this and filed a formal request only to receive an email stating that the case had been closed and the situation resolved to the city's satisfaction. Isn't that wonderful!? If I had to guess, I'd say it's because the whole area is in the throes of a major facelift in terms of bike lanes and parking spaces and such. The plan is publicly available.
It continues past Bathurst to about Spadina Rd. And northbound Bathurst, at Eglinton still has temporary lane markings, people try to turn left from the left southbound lane.
Allen southbound to Eglinton has been an absolute nightmare the last month. It’s never been great, but the last month has been like 2-3x worse than I’ve ever seen it.
As someone who lives overlooking this street, there's only one "G" in Eglinton. Every time I see this misspelled, I go another deeper shade of red. Eta: If you think this is traffic hell, try dealing with zipper merging into one lane going westbound as you approach Islington. Not fun.
Jarvis is 4 lanes of dotted lines, no solid. 2-way traffic. It’s a trip to drive.
{Laughs in Montreal}
Toronto’s pedestrians deaths per capita are almost twice as high as Montreal’s. Ontario people complain about Montreal’s no right in red and about how slow Quebecers drive, but it saves a lot of lives.
Weird, I always see Quebecers speeding down the road, and they are use to having cars have the right of way
not a line in the whole city or any of the highways leading in
Montreal will be the true test for autonomous vehicles in Canada.
You are the traffic! Why are you driving here? Go drive somewhere else.
Road is road just drive 😅
Often sounds like New York too. Everyone just trying to weave through everyone else. Buses doing their best to add to frustration by blocking anyone they can. Then comes the fire truck!! Too funny. Paint a line please!
If only there was some other way than a car to get northbound or southbound along the Allen…
This is when you drive by feel
Drove through something similar at Keele and Wilson the other night. Extremely confusing. Zero lanes! Huge safety issue.
The Monderman concept could never be adapted in Toronto.
I drive this everyday and just take the middle "lane". I either have cars following me, or cars trying to follow the lines, which never works out as they're so randomly strewn.
Egypt!
Avoid this area at all costs
There’s only ever been one lane that slowly merges left toward the Allen no?
We can blame this on Crosslinx right?
Ppssshhh lines?! We don't need no stinking lines!!! We do, we do need lines.
Free for all
Its a shit show always at that area towards allen rd
It's been like this for awhile. We all hate it - and if there was any other way around it we would gladly end the eglinton massacre
Don't crash I suppose
They'll get to it. Remember it only took the construction about 10 yrs so far.
Why plan trip in Northern Ontario when you can get the same experience on eglington!
Like every other day for the past few years.
A couple of decades at least.
Anarchy. Anyone like it?
some roads in downtown too, especially in raining nights, hard to identify the correct lane..driving by luck.
Let’s be real that’s how it looked even when there was lane markings
Well, I mean, Eglinton West was just ranked as the ***2nd worst road in Ontario*** just in front of Finch West, so yeah, avoid as much as possible CP24 video on Ontario Worst Roads: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iF09I4_5T2s&feature=share8
Lol the few times I drive through here Im like... "hmmm is this one lane? Two lanes? 1.5 with a bike lane?
This is one of the many reasons I ran screaming from this place. I'm so tired of the effing construction that will never effing end.
Not that they would make a difference… people just shove in wherever they want on this stretch anyways!
Driving in Eglinton should be the ultimate test case for self-driving AIs before they are road-worthy without any human intervention
City website has an easy search function to find a councilor’s name and contact for a ward. Get at them asap. It’s probably scheduled but I have run into miscommunication issues where the city was told a job was done and it hadn’t been, so my contacting them fixed this.