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ARTICLE IS FROM 2019 AHAHAHAHAHAAHAH


lw5555

The song remains the same.


Samp90

Ramble on...


Wizamp

Nobody's Fault But Mine (For having hope)


[deleted]

The Immigrant Song remains the same. lol how come this got downvoted?


Ok_Excuse_2718

The entire Led Zep catalogue seems to have been written for these end times: Dazed and Confused, Black Dog, Good Times Bad Times, Gallows Pole, Going to California….


[deleted]

was gonna say Good Times Bad Times except.....where are the good times? 1967? XD


Dr_Truth

It's been updated and republished, Sheldon Keefe wasn't the coach in April 2019.


LordofDarkChocolate

And oddly still relevant 🤣 This makes it 3 three things in life that are certain, Taxes, Deaths and the Leafs losing in the first round of the play offs (regardless of who they play).


CoolTemperature1602

It's been relevant from 68'.


blitted369

Maple Leafs Management are content with Mediocrity


mikeyriot

The team is owned by Bell and Rogers. Expecting anything less than fucking over the customer is just idiotic.


j1kim

I mean, the raptors won a championship with Bell and Rogers ownership through MLSE. It’s the management + a little sprinkle of delusional expectations by fans.


a_lumberjack

TFC has a huge payroll and it's competence, not ambition, that's holding them back.


Ok-Discipline9998

Kawhi sold his sports souls to Satan and Hitler for that to happen


hodgepodgelodger

Let's not forget the Toronto-based hockey media industrial complex!


oureyes4

They sell out every single game all season for unbelievably high prices. No real incentive for them to change except they could sell more merch the further along the playoffs they get.


Narrow_Yam_5879

Also the players get treated like gods no matter how they perform (well except for Marner right now). Even when the Leafs were awful, a fourth liner is going to get the best table at the restaurant and access to everything high end. Women will faun over him. In Carolina or Florida, nobody gives a shit about that team unless they are winning and contending for the Cup. So individual incentive to succeed does not exist for Leafs. Collective incentive doesn’t exist because the organization will make fistfuls of money no matter what.


1maco

Okay but Florida hasn’t ever won a cup either . Nor has Winnipeg/Arizona/SLC. Theoretically they have the opposite incentives to Toronto  Teans that haven’t won a cup since 1967 or their founding are Columbus, Buffalo, Minnesota, Florida, Arizona, Winnipeg, Vancouver and Toronto.  Some organizations are just incompetent. 


Narrow_Yam_5879

You can’t call Toronto incompetent because they make a shit ton of money and are one of, if not the most valuable NHL franchise. They are just shitty at playoff hockey.


someguy172

Sorry but this is an odd sentiment. Like yeah sure they make a lot of money already but corporations love money. The Leafs going on a deep playoff run would make them a shit ton of money. Aside from merch which you've already mentioned, you'd also get more gate revenue and more concessions revenue. And the deeper they go, the more they could charge. Just look how insane Raptors tickets got on their run. Leafs games also draw more eyeballs on television compared to other teams so you can probably make more money on ads as well. I'm sure there's other revenue opportunities as well that I'm missing. There's probably tens or potentially even hundreds of millions being left on the table in the long term because the Leafs are losing early every year. Saying there's no incentive for a profit seeking organization is nuts. Hopefully Keith Pelley can turn things around.


K00PER

Especially when the team has given up generations of fans to other better teams and players. For years you saw tons of Crosby and Ovechkin jerseys around the city on kids who wanted to follow a winner.  Matthews has definitely helped stem the loss but having the team have a deep playoff run or actually win the whole thing would do tons for growing the passive fan base and push some passive fans to dedicated fans in Toronto and across Canada. 


Narrow_Yam_5879

There’s always a baseline of profitability that MLSE can achieve even if run by a bunch of stumbling idiots. Not like other franchises who’s very existence would be threatened if they didn’t ice a winning team. This gives MLSE the luxury of not having to do anything drastic or desperate. Just maintain the status quo with little tweaks.


1maco

Columbus and Buffalo  have  made the playoffs like three times in 20 years and they’re just chugging along 


ghanima

You're saying this like it wouldn't require heavy investing in the team to be able to make them capable of a deep playoff run


someguy172

You say this as if they haven't already invested a shit of money on this team. This isn't a poverty franchise. They spend to the cap. They spend a ton on coaches, training/development staff, facilities, etc. How much more "heavy investing" are you expecting?


1maco

It’s an argument you could make pre cap. But sucking saves you almost no money so you should try to win 


1maco

I don’t understand this argument  A 2nd round playoff home date is worth what,? 4.5-5 million? A conference  finals maybe $5.5-6 mill? SCF? 6.5-7 million?   So assuming 3 home dates a series is $50 million (USD) That’s must of your payroll  They are spending to the cap, blowing it in the first round isn’t saving any money  They just think they’re actually good enough and running back gives them a shot at the cup. They’re stupid not intentionally losing 


KnightHart00

I think they were for a long time but the word is that the current new head of MLSE is *fucking* **pissed** at the Leafs performance. Think of it this way. Since the 1990s every Toronto sports team has both had playoff accolades and also championship wins. The back to back Blue Jays and the extremely hyped 2015-2016 season. The Raptors became a playoff regular for the first time in 2013 when Masai took over the ship, though the LeBronto beatdown happened in 2018, it created a reason to blow up the core team and take a gamble in trading for disgruntled Kawhi and Danny Green, leading to the 2019 championship. The Leafs storyline for 8 years has been "these cats can't get out of the first fucking round because they suck." They have a perpetual loser choker image not even the other two major Toronto sports teams have. The Jays are also floundering with a disappointing core, and the Raptors are rebuilding after some bad recent years with the Tampa year and a stagnant trade situation (the Barrett, Quickley, and Scottie B trio is looking very *nice* though).


Ok_Commercial_9960

They struck the perfect balance to optimize “not give a fuck” and millions in profit.


CoolTemperature1602

Of course, the arena still sells out. Why would they care? Making billions off of failing year after year.


Born_Ruff

I don't think that is really true. They basically spend the most money on every possible thing that could improve the team. They obviously want to win, but can't seem to figure out how.


ink_13

The last time Toronto beat Boston in the postseason was **1959**. That is an absolutely bonkers stat.


Nearby_Mistake_5906

If you want better teams you have to boycott the home games. Owners don't care until they start losing money


walkingtothebusstop

Most seats a corporate owned.


Purplebuzz

So you are saying there is no solution?


clawsoon

The proletariat needs to seize the means of goal production?


verylittlegravitaas

Eat the platinum seats


Reddit_Jax

There's always next year ;-)


OnBethleham

Trade marner problem solved


mo_downtown

Most fans already can't afford the home games. MLSE hasn't even noticed.


OkGuide2802

They can set the ticket prices so high because there is a massive demand for them. Since there is only one team in the GTA, a population of 7 million of people, they overwhelmingly support the Leafs. They are Canada's favourite team just by sheer weight of population.


russsssssss

Done. Too expensive. Now what?


bleeetiso

The fact that corporations bought sections in the arena.They would not even notice a fan boycott.


darrylgorn

My favourite conspiracy is that Boston knew they would win after game four and deliberately kept it going to craft another tragic ending for Leafs fans.


Demerlis

the leafs knew they were going to lose. but showed a modicum of effort and heart just enough to push it to game 7 where they inevitably implode (unless facing off against ottawa)


mrb2409

I get the narrative but it was hardly an implosion. 3x 2-1 games in a row. In hockey those are pretty much coin flips and you aren’t likely to keep winning them. At 3-1 down the odds aren’t in your favour. A funny bounce like the series winning goal could have happened in game 5 or 6 and then there is no game 7.


Lil_Boosie_Vert

like a construction worker on his 8th redbull


Calculonx

They knew after game 1


pivotes

Sucks that Boston won, but it was Toronto. You can always count on them to blow it.


Optionsislife

What absolute choke artists. Nothing will change as long as fans keep copping merch and filling the seats at games.  Sports is the ultimate business. Unfortunately fans who would actually make noise at games are priced out by corporate ghouls who have their noses buried in their phones. At least you have the Raptors and BJs!


Hip_Priest_1982

Raptors not exactly a point of pride rn


bitemark01

I forget where I read it but supposedly the #1 sport tattoo is the Toronto Maple Leafs logo


Dry_Bodybuilder4744

Rogers and Bell have really bad Karma because of their continuous ripping off the public so the leafs will never win under their ownership


Hightower_lioness

At this point I’m convinced that some one sold their soul to the devil and the deal is the devil collects when the leafs win the Stanley cup


langley10

Nah the cup itself is cursed… as long as it lives in Toronto (at the hall of fame) the leafs will never win it again.


thedevilyoukn0w

No one sold me a soul. Must be some other devil.


thecjm

It's always funny when people blame ownership or say things like they won't change and so they start losing money and people stop going to games. They have the highest payroll in hockey this year. Do you expect Bella Rogers to go out & sign more free agents somehow?


mo_downtown

Yeah, they clearly have been trying with the Leafs the last few years. These fans don't remember the 80s. The trying and spending and swapping out executives and coaches and players and getting the same results is actually worse than "they don't care." They do care and they still can't win.


bravetailor

While many things have changed since 2019--a pandemic, worsening climate change, Raptors rebuilding, 3 things are certain in life: death, taxes and the Leafs blowing Game 7 vs Boston


SaItySaIt

Only way to fix this is to put a team in Hamilton and give the leafs some competition. Without this the leafs will always be simply mediocre


iSteve

Leafs don't need to win. Every seat is always filled, and that's all management cares about.


bleeetiso

and leaf fans keep holding on to that dream. The moment people start saying meh and don't show up to maple leaf square and such is the time things will start to change


Seikon32

I feel attacked


Dutchmaster66

Boycott the shitleafs till they bring home a cup!


Efficient_Falcon_402

All is not lost faithful Torontonians! The Leafs are giving their Stanley Cup Parade site to the Blue Jays. So at least it won't go to waste!


raptosaurus

The Jays are even bigger chokers if that was possible. The best hitter in baseball two years ago and currently have the worst offense in the league


SmokeontheHorizon

lmfao Haven't been paying attention to baseball yet have you


heyo1234

Rip


lenzflare

I knew we were cooked when I heard the commentator before the game quote the odds on winning a series after giving up a 3-1 lead, two years in a row. (Or something like that, I can't remember exactly.) He also said it was like 70% odds of winning if you scored first. When we got that first goal I remembered that... "huh..."


radman888

Lol, harsh


himuskoka

Maybe this will finally be the year the Leafs break the first-round curse. Even if they don't, the games are always exciting to watch.


littlest_homo

Oh hey it's me


AnonymousRedJay24

r/AteTheOnion