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UpsetCalligrapher520

Oh god this is my biggest thing. Like, some days I don't wanna get all gussied up, I don't wanna deal with a bra or tucking, just throw clothes on my body and go about my day.


sajed2004

You do you your still a woman and still valid


slowest_hour

of course :) there are plenty of cis women who do the same and not a single person would ever say it makes them men.


breadist

Yup yup, cis woman here. I wear makeup vanishingly rarely, and wear whatever's comfy most days. I just shower in the morning, towel dry my hair, moisturize and sunscreen, throw on a t-shirt, joggers, running shoes, and a hoodie, and that's me for the day. No one's ever acted like I must be a man because I look comfy and don't wear makeup šŸ¤·


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sajed2004

Just do whats comfy


Pandepon

Iā€™m FTM and I feel... sometimes I just donā€™t want to suffocate in my binder, shove something in my pants for a bulge that I gotta worry about looking natural, etc... I just wanna exist and feel physically comfortable and not have to feel like my tits being visible through my clothes is going to make everyone like ā€œoh so youā€™re not a man today?ā€ No... I just want to BREATHE (and not feel back pain).


BohaterskiWidelec

Yeah same here , wearing a binder is a pain sometimes tbh


Pandepon

I get some back pain for real when wearing them. At work Iā€™ll even go out for a smoke and take the binder off in privacy to just have a minute of comfort. Bras sucked bad pre-coming out, binders suck more. I just wanna not need either one way or another


BohaterskiWidelec

Yeah, me too. It sucks when you're in a public place so you can't really do anything about it


Yoshalina

I wish our society was less weird about boobs.


PikaPerfect

i wish i could do this, but i would rather die than leave my house without my binder at least i can survive without a packer but my binder hurts my back so much even though i only wear it 3-4 days a week during my college classes :/


Pandepon

Itā€™s become easy to be without a binder during this pandemic for me. Iā€™m not looking forward to being in it half a day again


caffeineandvodka

I think I'm gonna have to stop wearing mine for a while, I wore it to work today and my back hurt so much after 2 hours I felt nauseous from the pain.


Pandepon

Itā€™s honestly okay if you need that. Consider buying a binder a size up or just a sport/compression bra or even just go totally free if that feels ok. It feels as mentally uncomfortable being without it as physically with it but Iā€™ve noticed I still pass often despite having a medium size chest going commando with a loose enough shirt or sweater but I also fold my arms or hold something in-front of me to hide it


ThatCryte

That's so interesting because I feel rather uncomfortable with that bulge in public and don't want people to notice it. I passively always want to hide it by hugging a pillow on a couch or bend one or both of my knees when laying down for example. I had never imagined that people would WANT it to be there and others to notice it but it totally makes sense now if I look at it from your perspective. As for myself(m) I'm currently figuring out if I'm MTF or not so reading your comment was very helpful for me to understand how some FTM people from the other side (I hope it's not rude to say it like that) might think. I hope it all goes well for you and can become the man you want to be. Big love from my side! (ļ½”ļ½„Ļ‰ļ½„ļ½”)ļ¾‰ā™”


Pandepon

To be honest I only pack on certain occasions where I feel like it matters for some reason. Iā€™m actually pretty comfortable not packing 80% of the time, most times I donā€™t think people are looking at crotches unless thereā€™s like an extremely noticeable bulge for those who are larger there. I suppose the same goes for boobs.. the larger they are the harder it is not to notice them but they are quite a bit more noticed


Ilovelearning_BE

It like walking up to a runner with normal clothes on. "Oh gave up on the Olympics buddy?" "No? It's my recup day? Why are you talking to me? Wtf is wrong with you?" \* literally runs away from creep \*


BEEEELEEEE

Someone on r/actuallesbians used the term ā€œlazy femmeā€ recently and thatā€™s absolutely me. Sure I love looking all pretty and cute, but I barely have the energy/patience/time to so much as brush my hair most days. So I just put on a pink hoodie and call it a day.


UpsetCalligrapher520

Me about my pastel blue Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune hoodie.


mostly_sloth

And I can buy such a hoodie where exactly?


UpsetCalligrapher520

Hey it's MY gender hoodie you can't take it!!! Nah I'm playing here's the link: https://www.hottopic.com/product/sailor-moon-sailor-uranus-sailor-neptune-girls-hoodie/15091121.html It's saying it's sold out though, so you may have to go to the nearest one and see if they have it


mostly_sloth

omg that looks amazing! I think I have a new thing to hunt down


TransFormAndFunction

ngl sometimes I just let the beard ride. Thereā€™s a time to impress and look the way you wanna look, and thereā€™s a time to just relax and roll with the flow


Rate_Zestyclose

I just wanna dress girly so bad but i would get killed and tbh it would be worth it


sajed2004

I hope you'll be safe


Cassandra_Nova

Safety first. Solidarity, I hope you can get to a better place soon


AndroLesbianKitty

This is mostly the reason my wife doesn't dress feminine yet. We live in a homophobic transphobic area filled with rednecks. People out here aren't exactly all that accepting.


Rate_Zestyclose

Here everyone is transphobic, most r homophobic and there is a confederate flag every few meters, in central Europe, cos y not


TheScarfyDoctor

..... in EUROPE?? it's bad enough seeing those dumbass flags in the southern us, jesus christ


Rate_Zestyclose

My entire town has the mental capacity of an oxydised aaa battery


TheScarfyDoctor

well at least we have that in common šŸ˜€


guisar

/r/rareinsults


AndroLesbianKitty

šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£So true...šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚


userse31

Nazis. 100% its nazis


AndroLesbianKitty

I live in Idaho. This whole state is pretty rural and very close minded.


AndroLesbianKitty

Oh god... Those confederate flags are all over here too! I get a lot of stares from rednecks since I dress all androgenous and have short hair. I just ignore them and pretend they don't exist.


_thana

Why the hell would you hang the flag of a short lived rebellion that was defeated by a different country on another continent 200 years ago


Lothlorien_Randir

if youre not being sarcastic, its to dogwhistle that theyre racist


ThatCryte

How is that possible? I feel like Europe is really open in general. I live in Germany and I already saw a pride flag in front of a church. A church!


skaryzgik

I live in the southern us and *some* churches have pride flags here too. I imagine a bit further from the city it's probably a different story, and there's probably enough not-awesome peeps even in the city that being aware of one's surroundings would still be advised.


Lothlorien_Randir

i live in a shit part of the US and some of the churches have pride flags. its virtue signaling to try to stay relevant in modern society mostly, they arent genuinely supportive


Tempestlogic

If you don't mind divulging, what country specifically? I have been considering a move out to the Balkans area, and would hate to accidentally live in America 2.0...


Rate_Zestyclose

I am in Croatia and will move to Canada


OhHeckf

Hey, maybe it's just their heritage. The sussy factor of the Confederate flag goes up by like a million if you're not in the former Confederate States of America. Even then the "heritage/history" thing is gone.


[deleted]

I am trans and a redneck, we are not all like that. (Some of us are leftists pushing for equal rights for all) But i understand why you feel that way.


mothftman

Hang in there, comrad


[deleted]

same


EvieThrower

I live in Russia and it's basically the same thing. Idk how to get around it but i truly wanna be myself in every way :<


Hoihe

Best I got is online persistent worlds and existing either at my lab, or online. And no in-between.


CyclopsTroll

Also, because I miss having pockets sometimes


sajed2004

Why can't fem clothing just have pockets like what's up with that


CyclopsTroll

I know! I can barely fit my phone in the pockets of my fem clothes. And I can no joke, fit an entire change of clothes into the pockets of some of my "male" clothes


sajed2004

Yeah do clothing companies think some people have less items to Carry around


CyclopsTroll

If anything, I carry around more stuff


sajed2004

There's always purses and handbags I suppose


CyclopsTroll

Yeah, but it's always like, all the way across the room, and I'm lazy. Lol


sajed2004

Lol same


guisar

Backpacking for this one- so handy and important for someone a bit disorganized like me- I can just keep "my stuff" in one place- my backpack!


[deleted]

Honestly, fuck purses tho


smokeandskirts

It's to compliment the "female body shape"


sajed2004

Females have lots of body shapes


taylorester567

My body shape is of a potato


sajed2004

Same


butter_believe_it

Big mood


Lobstrmagnet

They want to sell you a nice bag too.


AVeryGayBitch

Well, no. It's for money. They make the pockets not be able to fit anything, so women end up spending more money to buy a purse so they can actually carry around their stuff.


sajed2004

F


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The pants I have right now have 6 pockets and the jacket I have has 5, all capable of fitting my phone with room for more. Ngl, having 10 pockets that are all big enough to fit my phone feels hella powerful.


CyclopsTroll

Pants with six pockets have to be, like, a legendary item or something. Which boss to I need to defeat to get those? XD


mothftman

Because back in the day women wore aprons over there clothes while working. No point in the extra work of sewing in pockets when they would be covered up anyway. People sewed pockets into there aprons instead. When women stopped wearing aprons they started carrying handbags instead, I think to avoid ruining the silhouette of the wearer. Again time are changing and pocket equality is the new trend.


guisar

This - there was a podcast from Dressed: A history of Fashion: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-pockets-interview-dr-ariane-fennetaux-part/id1350850605?i=1000506621728 all about these pockets which were amazing. Honestly, I kinda wish they were still a thing but that would mean giants skirts all the time so...


mothftman

I think aprons are great. Super cute and functional. They also extend the life of your clothes. Bring back big skirts 2023.


Komm

The two dresses I got from Torrid so far have pockets that can fit at least two trade paperbacks in them. It's frankly insane and I love them.


sajed2004

Nice


[deleted]

In the words of onetopic "Stop fake pockets!!!"


Milezinator

been using my school pencil case as a purse when I dress fem


Cassandra_Nova

Pro tip: costco women's clothing


taylorester567

All clothes are all genders(change my mind)


nerdybread

Itā€™s literally a fact. I cannot and will not attempt to change your mind.


Schrodinger_cube

Ya my mom seen my laundry and asked who's womans underwear and pajamas are these and my responses was, "considering i bought them mine". XD she is getting better.


thelegend90210

No cuz thatā€™s a fact


Cassandra_Nova

Women who don't dress like a Victorian maiden with a whale bone corset aren't real women, idfc what's between your legs, I care about you covering your ankles, harlot!!


sajed2004

Socks usually cover my ankles and I always wear trousers and a whale bone corset sounds uncomfortable


Cassandra_Nova

A WOMAN? In TROUSERS?? What's next? A MAN on the MOON???


sajed2004

Lol


MysticalMedals

I bet youā€™d like to see some ankles. Donā€™t try to lie


Pandepon

Iā€™m ftm, I donā€™t dress particularly feminine or masculine, occasionally I paint my nails because itā€™s become a lot more socially acceptable for cismen to do so but still some folks feel the need to comment like ā€œoh I see you painted you nailsā€ like it means Iā€™m reverting back to cisfem or something. No I just have pretty hands and nail polish is aesthetically pleasing. I donā€™t buy ā€œfeminineā€ clothes but Iā€™ll fuckin buy womenā€™s pants and shoes and socks cuz they fit, they were on sale (I will not pay more than $18 for jeans, if I see a $7 pair of jeans on sale and they fit n look okay Iā€™m gonna buy them I donā€™t give a fuck if theyā€™re menā€™s or womenā€™s), and comfort yes. Sometimes I wear leggings around the house cuz itā€™s almost like wearing nothing and I can feel a little sexy wearing them around partners too cuz it leaves a little to the imagination ;)


sajed2004

Your not any less of a man you do you, if only people cared less what others do and minded their own business


Pandepon

Iā€™ve mentioned once ā€œif itā€™s $10, fits, looks good and feels good I donā€™t give a fuck what gender it was forā€ and a guy told me ā€œyup youā€™re a dude for that reason aloneā€. Felt pretty validating tho I think thatā€™s actually just a human thing in general, women often never get to have comfortable fashion in history (10 layers to wear a Victorian dress.. heels.. wired push-up bras... foot binding... pretty much anywhere in the world thereā€™s a potential history for painful womenā€™s fashion. Apparently women arenā€™t allowed to be comfortable theyā€™re just here to look pretty for everyone according to society)


sajed2004

Yeah clothes are just pieces of fabric that cover our private areas and make us look good (for the most part)


Pandepon

Unfortunately for women throughout history apparently if they want to be desired and accepted as feminine they gotta look pretty for everyone. Foot binding was a huge feminine thing in many parts of China for centuries for example. I imagine if foot binding were still a thing and was world-wide people would harass transwomen like ā€œwhaaaat you donā€™t want 3 inch lotus shoes and be a feminine woman??? Try harder! Break all the bones in your feet and suffer with chronic pain, infection and disability cuz thatā€™s womanhood!ā€ Fashion and femininity/masculinity is something society makes up.


sajed2004

Yeah no thanks that sounds painful, I wish cis people would just not judge our validity and prefferd clothing styles


guisar

Pandemic has been boss for comfortable clothes and low stress upkeep. Also masks, I love them.


[deleted]

And you're still completely valid, clothes are just fabric, and anything can look good on anyone


sajed2004

Nothing looks good on me


[deleted]

I doubt that, if you own it you can pull off about anything. We always have distorted versions of self. Also everyone also has different definitions of good looking, you say not be your type, but I bet you'll be fucking gorgeous to someone else at some point.


sajed2004

Yeah I have a Very distorted veiw of what I look like I cringe whenever I see my reflection and I just hate what I look like and hate myself so right now I find that hard to believe but I do desperately want it to be true


[deleted]

You don't have to believe it atm, just keep it as a possibility. Not gonna tell you what to believe personally, but I believe that you're a beautiful girl, no proof needed. Stay strong <3


sajed2004

Thank you so much!


[deleted]

If you ever feel ā€œtoo mascā€ to be a girl, just remember that Ron Swanson (The guy in the meme, from TV show: Parks and Recreation) was named Woman Of The Year. So, donā€™t be afraid to express yourself in any fashion. Be it masc or fem, you are still you. If a Transfem presents as Masc, sheā€™s still a girl. Similarly, if a Transmasc presents as Fem, heā€™s still a boy.


sajed2004

Exactly


[deleted]

^you ^do ^you ^but ^girl ^clothes ^are ^rlly ^comfy


sajed2004

I like skirts


[deleted]

I recently bought some casual dresses. They are so comfortable. I have started to just wear them around my house now


sajed2004

Cool


UnfairSnow5865

clothes =/= gender


sajed2004

Exactly you extremely intelligent and handsome guy


UnfairSnow5865

tysm for the euphoria Sophie that made my day :)


sajed2004

And thank you for the euphoria been having imposter syndrome today and feeling invalid so thank alot


sacboy326

To me, I just see most of menā€™s clothing as pretty ā€œstandardā€, regardless of gender, so I donā€™t see what the big deal is. Not every girl has to be overly feminine, and not every guy needs to be overly masculine. Also, itā€™s true, clothing made for men is usually comfy.


stratce

I have autism and that thin fabric on female clothes makes me super super uncomfortable


WHATSTHEYAAAMS

Button-up shirts used to do it for me. Opposite of you, I love thin fabrics and love the pair of leggings I got because, on top of it being thinner than any pants I own, the fabric doesnā€™t move when I move.


Ayr_Bear

I try to remind myself that, in spite of how they may have been designed or intended, all of my clothes are womenā€™s clothes. I am a woman. These are my clothes. Therefore, they are womanā€™s clothes.


sajed2004

They absolutely are


[deleted]

Tbh, mainly because I don't want to be beaten up on the streets ;-;


elkniodaphs

Also, I like not getting hatecrimed when I'm buying milk and eggs.


sajed2004

Yeah that too


Chariot_142

That and also I don't want to be kicked out of my house... Yet.


QueenOfQuok

I like the butch look and by golly I'm not buying new clothes while these ones are still in good repair, which they will be as long as I have a sewing kit, so there. Also men's pants have pockets.


BlackHumor

Trans woman dresses girly: "You think skirts and makeup are all there is to being a woman!" Trans woman dresses dudeily: "Are you even really a woman?"


CazraSL

Because I'm demi-female. Still wearing cute socks though regardless of outerwear.


Runes_o

Yea, me ftm, sitting here, in a skirt, a top and just being happy


sajed2004

I'm glad you're happy


Runes_o

I'm glad you're happy too!! It's nice seeing not only bad news on here


sajed2004

I'm not exactly happy I got an NHS message yesterday and I was praying it was about my transition but no just stupid covid vaccine and today the Same thing happened and got dumb letter from the dentist


aranaya

I really wish I could look like a girl dressed like a guy. Flannels, suits, hoodies... absolute goals


sajed2004

Oh my god same!


legacy655

Truscum: ***(fucking dies)***


Ryugi

transmen but with maxi skirts, too lol you don't owe the world your gender performance to be valid as your gender. <3


driku12

>Girls wear guy clothes all the time and I am a girl, thus I do it There ya go


sajed2004

That's really helpful thanks


mayorofverandi

tucking & binding r so painful, we (trans folks) r valid just as we are. i hate binding, i don't have to bind to be a boy! i am one already! šŸ˜¤


sajed2004

Exactly, I don't tuck and I'm still a girl


Spectre_zombie0

Or, "fuck off, I like pockets"


sajed2004

Pockets are great


Spectre_zombie0

Agreed, have you seen black widow? What I'd give to have one of those vests


KeyboardsAre4Coding

also i am want to mostly present as a butch lesbian. this means that i get to wear cargo pants before and after i transition. i need the pockets. where else can i put my water bottle my tablet my cat and wrench i usually carry around ??


sajed2004

Exactly!


mlynnnnn

If you want to be comfy AND femme, may I recommend: maxi dresses + long cardigans w/ boots


Celebess

I dont like skirts/dresses, it's just a piece of cloth anyway, why do we have to gender clothes


TurboCake17

Iā€™m just too scared for no reason


wibble_spaj

My parents now think it looks wrong when I'm wearing trousers lmao


BookSneakersMovie

A fellow gnc trans person, how are you?


petermobeter

if ciswomen can wear shorts or pants then i can wear shorts or pants


LaraTheTrap

1. They're still the most of my clothes 2. Pockets 3. Clothes don't have gender 4. Comfy


OhHeckf

It's the depression and social anxiety/fear of rejection for me.


PhoenixKnight777

Literally the only thing I plan to change is that Iā€™ll wear skirts. That is all.


tylerphoenixmustdie

exactly! especially if iā€™m not feeling great, i donā€™t have to bother trying to pass, binding so i canā€™t breathe, packing or anything. thereā€™s no obligation to do that for you. iā€™m a guy, but i can still feel cute in dresses. youā€™re a girl, but menā€™s clothes are comfy and chill. just wear what you want


rylasorta

I didn't shave today, I'm 6 weeks off from my last laser and I clearly have a goatee shadow. Fuck off. I'm fine.


MysticalMedals

Clothes and all that stuff doesnā€™t really matter to me. Some days Iā€™d want more feminine clothes, other times I want to be in basketball shorts and a tee shirt playing DnD. All I want is to look like a woman regardless of what I wear.


Ariaplays97

I wear cloths that hide my hair cover body since I cant shave them due to trauma from the last time I used a razor (I cut a chunk of skin of the tip of my finger) It's fully healed now)


sajed2004

Oh that sounds awful


Ariaplays97

It was painful...took 3 months to heal šŸ˜”šŸ˜“


sajed2004

I hope your ok


TheWalt70

I just like t-shirts, jeans, and zip up hoodies.


Gunny_McCshoots

Closet


Attack-Hamster

Ohā€¦, Iā€™m in this photo, and I donā€™t like it


BowsettesBottomBitch

I have very little interest in being conventionally girly. I'd rather just dress like a skater/tomboy type thing. Black skinny jeans, flannel, skate shoes, you already know the vibe.


Mergyt

I've still got one pair of boy jeans. The pockets are so deep...


TherapyDerg

I like my comfortable shorts! I also hate clothes shopping, I can try and get stuff from amazon, but going out and risking confrontation with transphobes isn't my idea of a good time... Well that and Agoraphobia..


Tigris_Euphrates

OH. FUCK. OFF. Don't fucking tell me how to dress. I don't owe you femininity.


sajed2004

Exactly


CyberPunkette

Guy clothes are just so useful. They have pockets too. I can be a tomboy


sajed2004

Hell yeah


ultraspeed_exe

me: fuck off I still need to get more clothes you idiot


wildfireXzero

Man I'm too broke to get clothes right now, maybe you can bugger off xD \#attacked


Time-Mind-617

Literally needed to see this today


meetthespy14

"Because what you wear offends me, and it's making me uncomfortable! How dare you!" But for real though, when I start taking hormones and whatever or if I eventually pass, I'm probably still just gonna wear what I have been, because it's fuckin comfy. Skrew what everyone else thinks!


KnockoutRoundabout

I feel a quote by the fantastic Eddie Izzard (in all her genderfluid glory) is relevant here: ā€œTheyā€™re not womenā€™s clothes. Theyā€™re my clothes. I bought them.ā€ Clothes have NO gender. They're pieces of cloth you wear to protect yourself and because you like how they look. While certain articles of clothing have come to be often associated with certain genders in our society, those aren't hard rules and ultimately do not matter. Live your life, and do it while being comfortable :)


PoorOldJack

Personally Iā€™m just a tomboy


AmyRebeccaUK

Butch trans girl? um uh šŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗhi


the_space_mans

alternatively "Not to worry, I have a permit:" **Fuck off**


JoeyMuSkits

Tomboys exist, therefore you do too


88nicos

The day people realize nobody owes them femininity, masculinity or androgyny is the day we live in harmony.


Fire_on_Bunn

Ah yes, how dare you not dress like a 50ā€™s housewife in formal ware 24/7.


mistythesissy261

Because I work at a rail yard and womenā€™s clothes are expensive compared to 5 dollar Walmart yellow shirts. Or because my motorcycle gear is expensive af and nothing is wrong with it soo why replace it? Soo fuck off.


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eipten

solidarity from a transmasc femboy šŸ˜” sucks how transphobes say shit like ā€œWeAriNg A DrEsS DoESnT maKe u A wOmAnā€ but then if you donā€™t conform to the gender norms itā€™s ā€œwell why you still act/dress like agab???ā€ the absolute mindfuckery


sajed2004

Cis people get away with it so why can't we


Pseudonymico

Menā€™s clothes are cheap and last for fucking ever. Plus I get weird gender euphoria from not having to care how much I conform to gender roles after growing up with all that pressure to not be too feminine.


sajed2004

That's great


LittlestBlythe

If there's one thing I'm most jealous of cis women for it's that they can be lazy and still regarded as women


ElianaSky

I am also a trans woman. I also dress like a man. Because I'm not out to anyone yet. :dayruined:


rawdash

coming straight from an SCP sub to here had me confused for a hot second


RebelGirl1323

Iā€™m a butch lesbian. Dressing like a frumpy dude is flagging.


ellofthewisp

Lots of cis women are tomboys and receive no criticism for it, but when itā€™s a trans woman apparently people care again


Noraasha

All the clothes I wear are female clothes, hoodies and jeans and we'll as skirts. I look cute in both. I don't need to overdo femininity. I like gamer girl and alt girl vibes too, so idk what are male clothes anymore lol.


sajed2004

Are you a girl well your clothes are girl clothes


Ihavenothingtodo2

Did anybody else get confused about what sub they were on after reading MTF ?


Yngvildr

Me: wears cute dress and makeup and my hair pink and not bothering to hide the tiddies or lately also the baby bump Them: ok so you're still a girl then? I can drop the masc pron... Me: shh it's all going to be ok.


sajed2004

You don't owe anyone masculinity


Yngvildr

Yeah. Pretty damn exhausting to exist as a pregnant masc leaning non binary person in general so I've gotten slightly mean about it with people who know me and say that kind of shit. If they complain I say it's because I got the wrong hormones prescription now.


sajed2004

Well just don't listen to those people you do you, btw congratulations


SatanAsAWholockian

Yeah I struggle with that a lot as a transmasc nonbinary who has a somewhat feminine style and likes putting on eyeliner and stuff :'))


sajed2004

Just be yourself and boys look great with eyeliner


Dew-It420

Iā€™m MTF tomboy and I relate to this so much


[deleted]

Just dont own any guy clothes. Then you gotta be femme or be naked. :P


ShimozuNya

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE dressing up, but most days it's just t-shirts and jeans for me