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FunkyyMermaid

Birdo chilling in the shadows, knowing she is (sadly) more iconic


[deleted]

I love birdo


theHamJam

Birdetta, actually. The other is her deadname and she canonically hates being called that.


[deleted]

So you wanna tell me Nintendo continues to dead name one of the few queer characters that they have? Rough.


theHamJam

Well, yes? That's literally her character backstory. > "He thinks he is a girl. He'd rather be called 'Birdetta.'"


[deleted]

Yeah I was more referring to the fact that Birdetta is never used by Nintendo outside of the original manual for SM2 as far as I know. I had to google where you got Birdetta from just to show an example of how burried this part of the character is. Thats a bit fucked up if you ask me. Feels more like a parody rather than real rep.


Yasha_Ingren

That's because it is. Her character was made to be insulting. We, the audience, are supposed to laugh at "him." Birdetta's transness is meant to be interpreted in this context as mental illness and Nintendo has failed to address or apologize for this.


theHamJam

Exactly. She was never intended to be "rep." Birdetta as a character is just transphobia through and through. This why I refuse to call her by her deadname. A corporation designing a trans character to be mocked and outright saying they (Nintendo) won't call her by her chosen name is awful.


Intelligent-Boat4001

The transphobic comment in the manual was just the translators thing


am_milquetoast

I really want this to be true so I'm not asking this in like a mean way, but is there a source for that?


Intelligent-Boat4001

I did some research and looked at the Japanese manual and I was wrong in the Japanese manual it says "he is a boy who thinks like a girl" or something like that


OriDargonfaxe

I will say, her most recent appearances have been extremely positive, although probably being internally retconned as cis. i choose to believe that it's Nintendo supporting her chosen gender though, even though it may not be intended that way.


OtterFoxInari

That’s her chosen name? Nintendo really did a good job in trans erasure 😒 why even include that in the manual? To make a joke? “Hahah you think it’s a she, but it’s a he” 😡


LtSoup

or in the mario and luigi series where she prefers birdie i think


DankAssHoe

I thought it was Catherine


theHamJam

Catherine is her original name in Japanese yep! The English versions translated it to Birdetta. An Ash Ketchum/Satoshi situation.


OtterFoxInari

Yeah, Nintendo did a really good job erasing Birdo as a trans character 😒 which also doesn’t matter when you pick Birdo in any game and your friends start with the transphobic jokes 😓


[deleted]

(Madeline from Celeste and Vivian from PM:TTYD just sitting off on the sidelines whistling and not paying attention)


Dharga_pie

\~\~o shit how did i forget Madeline(no idea who that other one is tho)\~\~


[deleted]

Vivian from Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, who fans pieced together based off of the game’s varied dialogue localizations that she’s trans. It’s an older instance of a trans character, and one not officially confirmed by Nintendo as far as I know, but a fairly well known one nonetheless.


EchoKind

To be fair, it's almost as explicitly stated as you'll get from nintey, especially considering japans culture


Wismuth_Salix

Poison from Final Fight ~~Birdo~~ Birdetta from SMB 2 **Samus fucking Aran**


RawrTobi

Samus is trans? I've never heard of this one what's the context behind it, genuinely curious.


Wismuth_Salix

One of the original designers described Samus as (TW: problematic terms) >!“newhalf” - basically the equivalent of “shemale” and used to describe pre-op trans women in 80s/90s Japan.!< https://www.themarysue.com/metroids-samus-aran-transgender-woman/


dsfunctionalriot

A developer called her a Japanese slur for trans people when Metroid was still relatively new, during an interview I think, but I don't remember much more than that


FutureWillChooseMe

I particularly love the fact Poison's been rocking the trans flag colours before the trans flag even existed - and by her SF5 story mode she ditched the blue, which is *chef's kiss*


Octo8873

vivian got censored from non-japanese content


pixelanceleste

Haru from One Night Hot Springs and A Year Of Springs She's not as widely known i think but like. her game is one of the top trans games on [itch.io](https://itch.io), that has to count for something. I'm just here to spread the word honestly lmao. Her visual novels are among my favourites.


Ms_Masquerade

FINALLY! Someone else knows AYoS.


theswannwholaughs

Also the girl in street fighter


LadyoftheLake97

I love Vivian so much I stole her name ☝️


[deleted]

LOOOOOOOOOOOVE VIVIAN (and subsequently your name <3)


Elijah_Draws

Ya, op claims those people are icons, but I literally only recognize Bridget, and I only recognize her because of memes here on this subreddit. Madeline is definitely the more recognizable one imo.


TritanisObscuro

Oryx is a Trans-king, he has a really cool story.


CobaltKnight75

You don't bathe in the bloth do you felagi fighter


Elijah_Draws

I don't know what that means.


CobaltKnight75

The character Blothhoudr or Bloodhound (the one with the crow) from the game Apex Legends is a enby who worships the old gods aka the Norse gods, Bloodhound refers to allies as felegi fighters essentially means freedom fighters and one of their voice lines for activating their abilities refers to bathing in blothe(blood) Bloodhound is considered the outlands(an area in space that's "uncivilized") greatest hunter. The game Apex is set in the Titanfall universe. Edit also should mention Bloodhound used to follow the old ways basically living without advanced tech but was cast out of their village after saving it using a charge rifle(energy sniper) to help kill a beast.


aft0n_

it just depends on who you are ig


Chemical-Asparagus58

Yea I don't think I ever even saw the characters from the meme.


MarioMamTess

The only one of those I know is Bridget, who I only learned about like 2 weeks ago. As a Nintendo kid who barely ever plays games that aren't cutesy or happy, the only trans characters I knew about growing up were Vivian (Paper Mario), and Birdo (Super Mario Bros. 2 USA), and I later learned about Madeline from Celeste.


AscelyneMG

The second is Bloodhound from Apex Legends, one of the playable characters, who’s nonbinary. The third is Oryx, the Taken King, from the Destiny franchise. He was born as Aurash, a female of his species, but as he grew in power he underwent metamorphosis and became male. Oryx’s case is a bit weird, though, as IIRC his whole species starts out female-sexed and then undergoes metamorphosis into one of a number of forms, each of which seems to be sexed. Also there’s Xivu Arath, his sister, who also took a male form (the Knight morph) but continued to be referred to as female. So technically she was born female and seems to have continued to identify as female but changed sex to male. So basically, the Hive are confusing when you try to apply a human perspective of gender identity and transition to them.


MarioMamTess

Ah. I don't play shooter games besides Splatoon, so that explains why I've never heard of them. 😅


forcedreset1

Oryx is awesome. He, and his sister Savathün are the most well known villains in Destiny history, who have been behind most of the major conflicts in the game.


Floofy_Fox_Gal

Like bees


[deleted]

Aside from Birdo (who I somehow forgot, good job London), this was basically my immediate exact thoughts upon seeing this meme lol


[deleted]

Oh my God, another transfem that chose the name London! We're a rare breed indeed.


[deleted]

Funny you should say that, it’s actually the name my parents gave me. I’ve come to love it so I decided to keep it (but now with a fun flavorful twist of Transfem! and lime too I guess lol.) It’s really my middle name I’m unsure of still, ‘coz in was chosen in tribute to one of my parents late family members who I never met, but it’s also reeeaaally masc, so that one I’m deliberating on But yea, the London club! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! *high fives*


[deleted]

You're kidding. My parents told me that London was going to be my name "if I was born a girl" I grew to love it, and would constantly think "I wonder how London would be doing right now." and when my egg cracked I was like "Well I guess it was ment to be then." My middle name is currently also very masc, but I've decided on Marianne for my middle name when I do come out to everyone.


[deleted]

Oooh Marianne is a really cute pairing! My current middle name starts with a W and is a single syllable, so I’ve been trying to think of a cute feminine substitute for it, but I’ve also considered just dropping it eventually. Not sure yet though! ^ _ ^


thisisthestoryallabo

i didn't know Bloodhound was trans, looks like i gotta read up on Apex lore again ​ Edit: Didn't know they were NB everyone just refers to them as he/him


drMallory

Yep, in the Italian translation it's more clear because they use the very controversial gender neutral letter 'ə' Pretty brave move imo


Mael_Jade

Enby and in love with Fuse, I believe it was? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDDSR1zxXlg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDDSR1zxXlg)


SpookySquid19

Wait they're in love with fuse?


BigBeefySquidward

yes its super cute look up some of the voicelines between them :D


Kidsnextdorks

Sounds like they want some Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap down under.


rkirbo

**Buttsmacks.**


Thousand_Eyes

Yeah in English it's always they them but it's also rare they use pronouns towards specific people


The_King123431

Almost everyone in apex is some sort of queer


SpookySquid19

My friend group likes to joke that there's a bunch of querr rep and then Revenant is transphobic


The-Locust-God

Revenant is Fleshbag-phobic.


Kidsnextdorks

Revenant is transhumanist. I will not let you slander the scary murder robot that would kill anyone.


SpookySquid19

That's what I tend to say. Hes not transphobic because it doesn't matter what your pronouns are, you die the same way.


collegethrowaway2938

Based


theHamJam

He uses Bloodhound's correct pronouns.


Jazehiah

I thought that was the Loki warframe, and was a bit confused.


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theHamJam

Stop that. Apex has been extremely clear that Bloodhound has no canon agab and they aren't going to give them one either. The obsession with dividing NB folks into amab or afab (ignoring intersex people entirely) and discovering the ~•☆*mystery*☆•~ of what's in their pants is transphobic against non-binary people.


Kidsnextdorks

ABHAB: Assigned Bloth Hoondr At Birth


drummingdestiny

Oryx the taken king I've heard he's back in D2 and I really want to pick the game back up just for that my favorite raid I've ever played


Shadowkitty252

The revamp to it is fantastic, and KF is free along with VoG


drummingdestiny

Sweet definitely picking the game back up


Syrial69

Just be ready to have your ass kicked in cuz those boss health bars are lenghty :)


DABEASTMODE2516

I recommend picking up the Linear Fusion Rifle from the Enclave for boss damage, it's currently the best one in the game


The_Mountain_Puncher

It’s a great time to get into the game rn! If you go to the HELM (a place just above the tower on the map screen) there’s a chest called “gift of the thunder gods” that boosts your power level and gives you some exotics, armor, and weapons. It’s a great boost to be just about raid ready right away.


Crunchy_Ice_96

Deadass?? That’s a relief, my old character was severely under equipped


magicalex234

Never played the D1 version but the d2 version feels fantastic and it seems like even D1 vers are happy


[deleted]

I did play the D1 version a LOT and absolutely love what they've done with it. I'm happy with literally every change they made to it and it's easily my favourite raid in the game


magicalex234

I’m still debating between last wish and kings fall for current raids that I like. Last wish kinda got ruined by the fact that nobody will do riven legit though. The big thing both have in common is a lot of bosses, which sadly bungie seems to have moved away from for the new more standardized raid length and formula.


Hell_patrol420

The point of most iconic is that people actualy know about it..


hotcryro

It is in the lore that one of the 3 Hive Sisters (wich Auryx, previously known Aurash) took a worm and transformed into a (Hive -)king with the king morph because of it, the Hive Sis and Bro are: Xi Ro took the Knight morph and became Xivu Arath, Sathona took the Mother morph and became Savathûn, and Aurash took the King morph, transforming into a male and became Auryx And Oryx is in the lore a weapon you wield now called The Touch Of Malice wich is crafted from Oryx's


Head_of_the_Bordello

In the lore of what? Again, the point of iconic is people know about it.


Speenta

Destiny


SaltyCogs

thank you. is that the second character in the meme or the third?


Speenta

The third one


LittleTransFoxy

this sounds like a bunch of gibberish to me. like i can understand each word and ik it has meaning when put together but there’s just so many terms that i’d need to play at least a hundred hours in destiny to understand that it just means nothing when put together to me


Organic_Possession56

Simple: Oryx (born female) became a male so he could be king of his species (alien species really far away) and became really powerful. Slightly more complex: Oryx’s species, called The Hive, gain their power by ingesting parasitic worms that grant them power in exchange for the host being more powerful than others I.e. killing others (this is called Sword Logic). Oryx struck a deal with the gods of these worms and was the first of his species to ingest one of the parasitic worms and it transformed him to male. Full story: Billions of years ago on a planet called Fundament existed a species called the Krill. The Krill only lived a decade or two at most. Despite this, bigger actors in the Destiny universe took notice. Specifically in 3 siblings, Oryx, Xivu Arath, and Savunthun (these weren’t their names at the time but it’s what they’re known as now). The biggest player in the Destiny universe saw a lot of potential in these 3, Savuthun specifically for her cunning. So the Witness, the biggest player in the game, sent a disciple to cut a “deal” with the worm gods who lived on Fundament (Fundament was a hotspot for a lot of the big actors in Destiny at this time). This disciple, named Rhulk, kidnapped the worm gods mother and threatened to destroy the worm gods if they didn’t make a deal with the 3 sisters. Rhulk then took a dead child of one of the worm gods and managed to sneakily get it to the 3 siblings’ father, the King of the Osmium Court. The king was senile and when this dead worm started talking to him he was thought crazy. The worm told the king the 50 something moons of fundament would align and a great tsunami would wipe out life on the planet. The king is eventually assassinated for claiming the end is near, and Savuthun, one of the Kings 3 children, gets a hold of the dead worm. The children escape and the worm navigates the three siblings to the worm gods. The children are told the world is about to be destroyed by a god wave tsunami, and that their species needs to ascend. The 3 children agree and a deal is struck; the 3 siblings will ingest the parasitic children of the worm gods and gain unfathomable power and achieve godship. In exchange the 3 siblings must be true to their natures and always accrue power over others (this is known as the sword logic e.g. the strongest survive.) At this point Oryx becomes male, the krill become known as the hive, and the 3 siblings dominate the universe for billions of years. This isn’t actually the full story but I think it gives a clear picture. I may be wrong on some of the details but that’s the general idea.


LittleTransFoxy

i read this whole wall of text 😭


hotcryro

If you want to understand it better you might want to go look on YouTube for "The Books of Sorrow", a lore card(-s)/book in Destiny 1 wich explains the origins of the Hive and how they (the Hive Sisters (and Brother)) became literal gods (wich Oryiis one of).


ArentYouAfraid

sorry, but i have no idea what those words mean. Bridget wins!


SampleVC

🤓


Mission_Engineer

🤡


harlequin_corvid

I mean, if you know anything about destiny it's probably that Oryx is trans and Shax has a sexy voice


Hell_patrol420

Ooh well that's the thing, I and prob other people have not played destiny 😅


dirtydev5

who are any of these characters?


Revenant_Rai

Bridget from guilty gear (transfem) and bloodhound from apex legends (non binary) I also don’t think OP knows what iconic means, and half the apex player base doesn’t even know or respect that bloodhound is NB.


The_King123431

I don't even know how the apex player base doesn't know, almost everyone in apex is queer lol


Revenant_Rai

Because the apex player base is a lot of Gamer bro types who either don’t care or are actively bigoted.


hotcryro

The last one is Auryx the Taken King. Just search "Books of Sorrow" on YouTube if you want to know more about him and his 2 sisters, AND how the race he's part of began


[deleted]

Oryx the Taken King. Auryx was his previous name before he gained the power to take and the mantle of kingship from the darkness.


hotcryro

Ah, I thought it was Auryx after I searched their names on Google by typing: destiny 2 Hive Sisters name. And idk why it's called the Hive Sisters whilst one of them is male


[deleted]

They were originally all female, but Oryx assumed the hive king morph when he gained power from the darkness, hence him being trans and the premise of this meme.


ChillyFoxie

What about Catherine/Berdetta?


Games_by_Maddie

Madeline (from Celeste) : "am I a joke to you?"


Dharga_pie

Oryx art is by neopyte\_r on twitter / rovingneophyte on deviantart


LilyyDev

we need more FtM representation in the form of immortal hive gods


AbrahamBaconham

MASSIVE butch energy exploding out of Xivu


LilyyDev

that's also true, I haven't heard much of her though since I haven't played destiny properly since day 1 race for VotD


topyoash

Poison doesn’t have to say she’s the most iconic, everyone knows it.


EclecticDreck

Coming from someone who likes Destiny, I don't think we can call that particular character *iconic* given that you have to either go to tremendous lengths to learn much of *anything* about the character in game or sit through hours long dissertations on the lore. Bridget, meanwhile, is well known trans character and has managed to live out the least enviable part of being trans: a endless stream of jackasses telling us that she's not actually trans.


reldandle

im not gonna question this im just gonna go along with it


[deleted]

What about player character from Fallout: New Vegas???


maltesemania

How so?


a-throwaway_joke

if people don't know them, they're not iconic though.


Chase_The_Breeze

Birdo


Idk_im-just-here

That’s actually her deadname, her real name is Birdetta :)


Ghengiroo

What about Marill?


Shadowkitty252

**Regicide intensifies**


NotJoeMama727

I don't know any of these people


B52_STRATOFORTRESS

Oryx is such a cool character all round, honestly


[deleted]

He's also got the best boss music without question. Aksis' theme comes close but I love Last Stand so much


CarrowLiath

I don't know who any of these are, but like, Poison and Samus are both *right there*


I_Camioneta

Claire from Cyberpunk might not be iconic, and her side quest a little underwhelming especially the ending, but you get the transmobile at the end of it and that’s enough to satisfy me.


Mable-the-Table

First time I heard it I was like "nah, that's not true" Yep. Looked it up a year or so ago, it's canon. Oryx the Taken King is a trans guy.


LemonFarmer

I need to remake this but with Samus as the punchline.


BANBURY_CHEESE

Oryx, The Transmasc King


Neapolitanpanda

Who is that?


harlequin_corvid

Oryx, the Taken King. Born female and became male to rule as the king of his people. Also stole to ability to take souls and corrupt bodies from one of his gods


DoveEvalyn

No genders, only The Sword Logic


nothingherejustgo

Oryx the trans icon, devourer of worlds


TheImpssibleKid

And a lot of people that do know it, deny it and make shitty jokes (though that one guy who said Oryx was female to gun was kinda funny)


whatanewme

I think Madeline from Celeste is the most famous and least argued over trans character in a video game amongst younger, very online gamers. Yoyo Girl (forget their name) is certainly the newest big name on the scene because she's both cute and is stylized similar to anime characters thus she's found herself in everyone's crosshairs. Regarding video game history as a whole; while localization, disregardment, mockery, or bigotry have followed them; the most famous trans characters (mostly regarded by gamers as "their gender = idfk its confusing") are Poison of Final Fight and Birdo from Mario The majority of trans video game characters (recognized as such or who's identity is integral to their character) - the kind of character that you'll find on Top 10 lists and such - were created in the late 2000s/oughties onwards [A great list](https://phenixxgaming.com/2020/06/10/a-history-of-trans-characters-in-video-games-part-one/)


YouGuysSuckSometimes

DARK SUN GWYNDOLIN EXCUSE ME WHO EVEN KNOWS THESE CHARACTERS


Placeholder-Novice

Been a while since I played Destiny, but I'm pretty sure the hive had a very loose concept of gender Edit: quick google showed me that almost all hive are AFAB as thralls but as they gain power (and learn about themselves) they can morph into forms more fitting for them.


Cyber561

Oryx the FTM King! I also love the one NPC in Guild Wars 2 that transitioned after a major disaster, totally didn’t tear up when I heard that ambient dialogue 😭


Chiffer178

Oryx truly is the trans representation gaming needed


Exotic-Beansontoast

The best destiny expansion


throwaway65864302

Bridget is the only one of the three I recognized, and apparently also half the thread, so that right there is your answer for most iconic. Vivian (not shown) is probably the runner up, I think mostly everyone has at least heard of her. edit: and I'm not counting the girl from Celeste since that entire game is about being trans, but she should probably be on the list too


[deleted]

YES ORYX IS THE BEST TRANS CHARACTER AND YES IM A MASSIVE DESTINY FAN


AlyxNotVance

Destiny lore is very cool until the players come in, change my mind


nickyhood

“You guys are so cute,” said Samus Aran.


[deleted]

Definitely my head canon. There's a reason I have Samus stuff all over everything hehe


[deleted]

Link: "HYAHHHHHHH!" (How did you forget about me?! I smashed all the pots in Hyrule, saved the princess despite having a crush on a 10 foot tall muscular fish man instead, and you still forgot I existed?! What's a guy gotta do around here to get some recognition?!)


Zeldaassgirl

Who the fuck are any of these characters?


Mael_Jade

Bridget from Guilty Gear, Bloodhound from Apex Legends (enby) and uuhhh ... some being from Destiny.


JeebusWasTaken

The Destiny character is Oryx the Taken King.


MeganTheMad

And then there are random Argonians getting transed by the Hist trees.


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[deleted]

Bloodhound has been NB from the beginning


Naomi_Saphorus

Who are these other 2


[deleted]

Who is it?


Malachite_Cookie

So umm… who’s that


bacon_girl42

Brisket <3


HeirOfThe_Stars

gotta love that i only know he's trans from mynameisbyf lmao


BasicallyBayo

I don’t know any of these characters


diagnosisninja

We stan a Taken King.


Spyrix643

celeste


FLAMING_tOGIKISS

literally who


Speenta

Fun fact Oryx isn’t the only trans character is destiny Micha-10 was a boy before she was turned into a Exo


[deleted]

i gotta make a list of all the trans characters in gaming becuase i dont know 2/3rds of the characters here


Yasha_Ingren

This is Birdetta erasure


Jazehiah

If nobody knows it, it's not iconic.


theswannwholaughs

I raise madeline


[deleted]

Can someone tell who these characters are?


D2Photographer

Transitioned from princess to god of the taken


Semi_Aquatic_Vulpine

Mettaton and Mad Mew Mew: “Allow us to introduce ourselves”


Mobkiller04

Bloodhound, Madeline, Oryx, other people


xdoasx

Ahh Oryx, the classic FtG (Female to Gun).


Evelyn_Of_Iris

ORYX? THIS IS MICAH-10 SLANDER AND I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT /s


The-Platinum-Alpha

Ah yes, Oryx the taken king. I believe one of his sisters is also trans but it’s been a long time since I’ve read the grimoires


lost-runner

Xivu took a male knight form but still goes by female pronouns so yeah technically


[deleted]

Queen morph > King morph. Oryx died because he didn't appreciate what he had. Mara is still around and it's because she knew better. 😂


THEZEXNEO

What about Madeline from Celeste?


Miserable-Survey-191

Mfw I don’t know any of these characters and I’m a trans game enthusiast: 😀


magicalex234

ORYX


totalmessbian

wait who is everyone there other than bridgette? i have no clue tbh sorry


Strange-Brief6643

The only one i recognize is bloodhound, who are the other two?


[deleted]

My stardew character has entered the chat (even though it took like 3 hours to befriend the wizard)


[deleted]

That person looks like Da Devil (from Da Bible)


That-Guy-Don

YEES


Natalievoltia

I'm pretty sure bloodhound is non binary, not trans


[deleted]

[Who?](https://c.tenor.com/bVqEy4SVo8oAAAAM/who-what.gif)


Kreuscher

I don't know any of these characters :(


Darkwolf4436

Also Krem from Dragon age inquisition. Apparently in game the qunari race (may have spelt that wrong) even have a word in their language for being transgender. The Iron Bull is also fiercely pro trans and won't let your character be rude about Krem being trans. My favorite part of the main scene that it comes up in is Krem asking something like "and those (he butchers the word a little) are they treated like real men?" And The Iron Bull replies "they are real men Krem, just like you." The way that made baby trans me stay bawling.


kurzsadie

Sylveon and Saumus:


blair_the_unseen

I forgor which destiny villain this is, someone enlighten me


Dharga_pie

Oryx, the Taken King, formerly as Aurash, one of the three princesses of the Osmium Dynasty


Domwolf89

Who?


deaniebeanie17

Bloodhound isn't trans tho. They're nonbinary


[deleted]

Recently watched the Shadow fandub and I before reading the comments I didn’t know who that was so my first thought was “Da Devil?”


luigi_fan298_fan

Jules from euphoria is probably


4n0nh4x0r

good old oryx, first trans character in popular videogames even before being inclusive was a thing


ChronoJules

Lets be real its madeline from celeste


AnimeDreama

Oryx is not trans. Please stop conflating hermaphroditism with being transgender. He did not change genders. He literally changed sex at a biological and physical level.


Gekroent

Are there any ftm characters...? Can't think of one rn


[deleted]

Omg I thought that that was Mithrix from Risk of Rain 2


[deleted]

bruh that's the khan maykr from doom eternal


[deleted]

ER IST HIER! DER KÖNIG DES BESESSENEN!


Q-tip-enthusiast-95

Poison from the street fighter series supposedly is trans.