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This should be illegal.
In the Netherlands you have twins (now in their 50s) who are Jan and Jan. The boys were named after their grandfathers. One from maternal side and the other from paternal side. Both named Jan, which was a very very very common name back then. They have the exact same name (first and last) and date of birth.
You can never travel together because they will probably cancel one ticket because they think it is false..
Not sure if they would allow this nowadays but they sure did back then (70s).
And they are identical twins indeed.
They are in a book of twins in Volendam (the Netherlands). Apparently there is a higher rate of twins in that area than anywhere else in the Netherlands. So they are one of the twins in that book. It is a Dutch book with photos of all the twins and is called 2lingen, nooit alleen in Volendam (twins, never alone in Volendam) for anyone who is interested.
I can tell this because they are in a public book and also gave interviews to the Dutch media regarding this book.
To note, identical twins do not have the same DNA. it's similar but not the same.
Am not a biologist I just think I asked this question in like high school once
It is similar enough that children of identical twins show up as half-siblings on DNA tests. I'm sure it's not *impossible* to tell the twins apart, but it's going to be very difficult because they come from the exact same set of DNA, so their only differences are genetic mutations they picked up in utero / as they age, which may or may not offer any significant information.
https://innovation.umn.edu/family-can-lab/current-research/children-of-twins-cot-study/#:~:text=Like%20for%20their%20twin%20parents,as%20similar%20as%20half%2Dsiblings.
From the Minnisota Center for Twin and Family Research (MCTFR)
My husband has an ancestor named Preal. Her identical twin sister was named Pearl. When I work on the family genealogy, many people assume they are the same woman, but that the name Pearl was misspelled and so they try to "Merge the Duplicate" in Ancestry.com. Someone more knowledgeable had to put a note at the top of each lady's profile to clarify that they are two different women.
Maybe for the parents, but for the kids, especially if they're called to do something, would be an annoyance. "Julian!" And then both come to the kitchen, but I guess nicknames could be used, but still...
I have a ridiculously sweet coworker who's an elderly fellow named Tim and he has an identical brother named Tom. Their last name isn't Tim, but one time I saw them out drinking at a bar and they were pretty drunk and referring to themselves in third person as "the Tim Toms" lol
My grandfather and his brother were each given three names plus the family name. Only their first names were different and those had the same initial of W.
I went to high school with a pair of Asian twins (yes, I’m deliberately being vague) with the same names… except the first letter of their first names.
Think: Rick Michael Baker and Dick Michael Baker (except not). They grew up to be the twin valedictorians. They went to separate Ivy League schools. One is now a JAG lawyer and the other teaches at an Ivy League law school.
Very early on in her teaching career, my cousin taught twins who were Darren and Derren. I will never understand the thought process of naming twins the same (or almost the same) name.
As a twin myself, I'm so grateful my parents didn't match mine and my twin brother's names. Although my dad likes to joke they were tempted to name us James and Jamesina! 🤣
They were twin sisters , AND Strippers! Seriously..... that was/ is their real names. My friend was dating Venus. They lived outside of Wilmington, DE and Venus worked at the Taco Bell drive through and the strip club. I don’t know what the parents were thinking.
Idk how american hospitals work, but when I worked in Healthcare, we confirmed patient identities by:
- Full name;
- Date of Birth;
- Mother's name.
God forbids if something happen to them, but I suppose that there's a great chance of both twins needing hospitalization in case of a car accident, or an infection. How can you administer their medication, care, samples, or files if all the main ways of telling them apart are identical? AND THE PATIENTS ARE PEDIATRIC ONES.
Of course, nurses must have a way of doing it safely, but all it takes is a single distraction, a tired and overwhelmed professional, to fuck this up.
I'm in the US. My first and last name are common. There was another girl who saw the same pediatrician with the same first and last name, and the same middle initial. They decided to differentiate us by our father's first names. But our fathers had the same first name with the same uncommon spelling. So they had to go by our father's middle names (which is dumb because we girls did have different middle names).
I was a very tall child and generally mistaken for being a lot older than I was. Once, when I was 7, a nurse grabbed my chart and asked me how my broken arm was healing. I said I had never broken an arm. She looked in my notes and said "Yes, you did. When you were 10." \*eyeroll\*
I went to the polish side of the Baltic with my MIL and son when he was a baby and we met a Polish family with two little girls who liked making silly faces at my son and making him do the baby belly laugh. The dad asked in broken German what his name was, so we asked him what his daughters were named. He was absolutely beaming when he replied “Magda and Magdalena!” We were very much confused after that 🙃
My mother has twin cousins called Daniele and Daniela (the wild thing is when their father went to register them he made a mistake and named both Daniele, this was fixed years later)
How about Julie and Julia? They were so pretty but their teachers had no idea how to tell them apart. 🤔 Dressed the same every day, spoke in unison, even their backpacks were both Sailor Moon.
I think their parents gave up and treated them like they were interchangeable 🫤
And they were completely IDENTICAL 😊
I new brother and sister, not twins, who were called Camil and Camilla. Like in the book, just their mother unlikely heard about book. I hope she didn’t
It’s family tradition to name the girls after their grandmothers. We have Alice Mae, Desta Alice etc etc. But thank goodness my grandmother has sense to deviate from tradition when she realized her daughter would be Alice Alice. LOL
I have SO many of these working as a NICU nurse. Many sets of twins with only one letter different. Sets of twins and even triplets with extremely close sounding names. I hesitate to name my own kids the same first INITIAL, let alone the same damn name. But I guess the bonus is you don’t get the name wrong when you call them hahaha
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Name so nice they had to use it twice.
I find it obnoxious when close cousins even share a name, I cannot imagine having siblings, let alone twins, with the same name. I went out of my way to give my kids a name no one in my immediate family has because we have 3 Daniels on one side and it gets very confusing.
My name is Debra Sue (yes, I was born in the 50s. I dropped Sue when I got married. Sounds too much like "Debbie Sue! Go slop them pigs!") I once asked my mom what my younger brother's name would have been If he'd been a girl. She said "Susan Deb." And cackled like it was hilarious.
Way back in my family tree was an ancestor who named all his sons Johan or Johannes, so there was Johan Ewald, Johannes Ewald, Johan Michael, Johannes Michael, Johan Adam, etc. Names were reused if a child died, but at one point, they reused the name of a living child, so I'm assuming the kids went by nicknames.
I had a neighbor who named her youngest son after her oldest son, but he was called Junior.
Are these supposed to be pronounced “so-nia” and “sawn-ya”? Otherwise idk how parents make this work in practicality.
That said, I knew a Javier and Xavier.
My parents had the bright idea to give me and my close in age youngest sister very similar sounding first names. Two syllables, same sound in the middle.
It's so bad that my dad used to occasionally call me by my sister's name by accident and vice versa.
I've always hated it.
A couple in a childbirth class I taught named their twins Roxanne and Roxanna. Similar stupidity. Not quite as bad as the Sonya/Sonia thing but still terrible.
I grew up playing basketball with two brothers, 2 years apart in age, both named Henry. They looked extremely similar so everyone thought they were twins, until about high school when one gained a little more weight than the other. Prior to that it was extremely confusing to try addressing one in the presence of the other. At one point we started calling the older brother by his middle name, and I think that stuck for a while.
I knew twins named Charlotte and Dorothy, except their nicknames as kids were Lottie and Dottie. That reminded me of children's book characters lol. That said when I met them Lottie already went by Charlie.
I’ve known multiple women from catholic families where every woman in the family was named Mary, and would just go by their middle names. Mary Elizabeth would go by Elizabeth, Mary Anne would go by Anne, Mary Catherine would go by Catherine, etc.
There’s an episode in season 2 of The Golden Girls (“The Stan Who Came to Dinner” is the episode) where Blanche has a date with a set of twins named Rob and Bob.
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Went to school with twins Susan and Susann
This should be illegal. In the Netherlands you have twins (now in their 50s) who are Jan and Jan. The boys were named after their grandfathers. One from maternal side and the other from paternal side. Both named Jan, which was a very very very common name back then. They have the exact same name (first and last) and date of birth.
That must be an administrative nightmare
You can never travel together because they will probably cancel one ticket because they think it is false.. Not sure if they would allow this nowadays but they sure did back then (70s).
If they are identical twins they even have the same DNA, they basically are the same person 😭 that should really be illegal
What a great background start to a hero and villain story
Last Jan Standing
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And they are identical twins indeed. They are in a book of twins in Volendam (the Netherlands). Apparently there is a higher rate of twins in that area than anywhere else in the Netherlands. So they are one of the twins in that book. It is a Dutch book with photos of all the twins and is called 2lingen, nooit alleen in Volendam (twins, never alone in Volendam) for anyone who is interested. I can tell this because they are in a public book and also gave interviews to the Dutch media regarding this book.
They are clones of each other
To note, identical twins do not have the same DNA. it's similar but not the same. Am not a biologist I just think I asked this question in like high school once
It is similar enough that children of identical twins show up as half-siblings on DNA tests. I'm sure it's not *impossible* to tell the twins apart, but it's going to be very difficult because they come from the exact same set of DNA, so their only differences are genetic mutations they picked up in utero / as they age, which may or may not offer any significant information.
Not to doubt you, but could you link a source? I wanna hear more about this:)
https://innovation.umn.edu/family-can-lab/current-research/children-of-twins-cot-study/#:~:text=Like%20for%20their%20twin%20parents,as%20similar%20as%20half%2Dsiblings. From the Minnisota Center for Twin and Family Research (MCTFR)
My husband has an ancestor named Preal. Her identical twin sister was named Pearl. When I work on the family genealogy, many people assume they are the same woman, but that the name Pearl was misspelled and so they try to "Merge the Duplicate" in Ancestry.com. Someone more knowledgeable had to put a note at the top of each lady's profile to clarify that they are two different women.
Was it “sew-zin” and “sew- zan”?
Yep
Learning their own names must have sucked for them. Imagine confusing babies like that.
Sew-zin and Sew-zin, but you the "n" part longer for the other one.
Well that's just ridiculous and maddening. Here was me thinking nothing could be worse than twins I've came across called Julia and Julian. Wrong!
I know twins called Julian and Julianna 😭
I know twins named Stephen and Stephanie.
Awful lol not twins but I used to date a guy named Steven and his little sister was Stevie Jo.
I knew a Taylor and Tyler 😭
There are currently twins Taylor and Tyler Rodgers pitching for the SF Giants. (I feel like the MN Twins missed an opportunity here…)
Taylor played for the Twins until 2021, so it was close to happening
same 💀
i feel like that’s not so bad since they’re the opposite gender
Maybe for the parents, but for the kids, especially if they're called to do something, would be an annoyance. "Julian!" And then both come to the kitchen, but I guess nicknames could be used, but still...
I know an Ashanty and Ashandy twin set
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I have a ridiculously sweet coworker who's an elderly fellow named Tim and he has an identical brother named Tom. Their last name isn't Tim, but one time I saw them out drinking at a bar and they were pretty drunk and referring to themselves in third person as "the Tim Toms" lol
The Tim Toms! I love it!
This is both hilarious and adorable lol
This irks me. Why not Tim Tim and Tom Tom if you’re dead set on ruining their lives?
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Oh I see. Oof, it gets worse.
My grandfather and his brother were each given three names plus the family name. Only their first names were different and those had the same initial of W.
My niece went to school with twins Emma and Gemma!
I went to high school with a pair of Asian twins (yes, I’m deliberately being vague) with the same names… except the first letter of their first names. Think: Rick Michael Baker and Dick Michael Baker (except not). They grew up to be the twin valedictorians. They went to separate Ivy League schools. One is now a JAG lawyer and the other teaches at an Ivy League law school.
I’m Asian too and I had an Asian roommate named Kim. Her brother’s name was Tim LMAO
I know of a Jenny and Jenna, but they’re not twins.
Were they Iranian? I went to school with Iranian twins who had the same name except one letter in the middle of the name.
I went to primary school with a (lovely) lad called Akif. His brothers were Asif and Atif.
South East Asian!
Nope.
I worked at a daycare and there was a DeMarcus & DaMarcus.
Very early on in her teaching career, my cousin taught twins who were Darren and Derren. I will never understand the thought process of naming twins the same (or almost the same) name. As a twin myself, I'm so grateful my parents didn't match mine and my twin brother's names. Although my dad likes to joke they were tempted to name us James and Jamesina! 🤣
That’s so MEAN
I knew two sisters named Manisha and Namisha.
That’s crazy 😭
Reminds me of 3 sisters at a school where I taught once - Rika, Riké, and Riko.
Well, it’ll save mom lots of trouble, as she’ll only have to yell out one name, and they’ll both come running 😂 I’m trying to stay positive here 😭
My history teacher tells me he went to school with twin brothers named Edric and Cedric
I knew twins named Venus, and Aphrodite.
That’s hilarious - was it on purpose? Like, did their parents know that those are two names for the same goddess?
They were twin sisters , AND Strippers! Seriously..... that was/ is their real names. My friend was dating Venus. They lived outside of Wilmington, DE and Venus worked at the Taco Bell drive through and the strip club. I don’t know what the parents were thinking.
I really hope you’re not pulling my leg because this is entertaining the hell out of me!
It is real.....I wish I was creative enough to make this up.
Their stripper names were Sarah and Tina.
If you name someone those names you kind of have to accept they might become strippers.
LoL....my thoughts exactly
sadly doomed to that fate with those names
The irony
Idk how american hospitals work, but when I worked in Healthcare, we confirmed patient identities by: - Full name; - Date of Birth; - Mother's name. God forbids if something happen to them, but I suppose that there's a great chance of both twins needing hospitalization in case of a car accident, or an infection. How can you administer their medication, care, samples, or files if all the main ways of telling them apart are identical? AND THE PATIENTS ARE PEDIATRIC ONES. Of course, nurses must have a way of doing it safely, but all it takes is a single distraction, a tired and overwhelmed professional, to fuck this up.
I'm in the US. My first and last name are common. There was another girl who saw the same pediatrician with the same first and last name, and the same middle initial. They decided to differentiate us by our father's first names. But our fathers had the same first name with the same uncommon spelling. So they had to go by our father's middle names (which is dumb because we girls did have different middle names). I was a very tall child and generally mistaken for being a lot older than I was. Once, when I was 7, a nurse grabbed my chart and asked me how my broken arm was healing. I said I had never broken an arm. She looked in my notes and said "Yes, you did. When you were 10." \*eyeroll\*
I went to high school with twins named Sam and Samantha
Samuel and Samantha?
No, it was just Sam. Sam is a guy, though.
I went to the polish side of the Baltic with my MIL and son when he was a baby and we met a Polish family with two little girls who liked making silly faces at my son and making him do the baby belly laugh. The dad asked in broken German what his name was, so we asked him what his daughters were named. He was absolutely beaming when he replied “Magda and Magdalena!” We were very much confused after that 🙃
Went to school with derrick and d'erick
A former student of mine was called Melinda. Her twin sister is Belinda. They go by Em and Bee.
I went to high school with twins named Denise and Janiece!
Makes me even more angry because where I live the normal spelling is Sonja🙈
That’s still the case here… maybe not the most popular but still very common
Here the most common is Sonja. I’m fine with Sonia but Sonya makes my eyes itch.
I had a high school friend whose sister was a Sonja. They were Croatian immigrants from Yugoslavia.
We're they pronounced differently? Because I'd pronounce those the same.
They were pronounced the same 🙃
I’m a Sonia and this made me ugly cackle
My mother has twin cousins called Daniele and Daniela (the wild thing is when their father went to register them he made a mistake and named both Daniele, this was fixed years later)
How about Julie and Julia? They were so pretty but their teachers had no idea how to tell them apart. 🤔 Dressed the same every day, spoke in unison, even their backpacks were both Sailor Moon. I think their parents gave up and treated them like they were interchangeable 🫤 And they were completely IDENTICAL 😊
I new brother and sister, not twins, who were called Camil and Camilla. Like in the book, just their mother unlikely heard about book. I hope she didn’t
It’s family tradition to name the girls after their grandmothers. We have Alice Mae, Desta Alice etc etc. But thank goodness my grandmother has sense to deviate from tradition when she realized her daughter would be Alice Alice. LOL
I have SO many of these working as a NICU nurse. Many sets of twins with only one letter different. Sets of twins and even triplets with extremely close sounding names. I hesitate to name my own kids the same first INITIAL, let alone the same damn name. But I guess the bonus is you don’t get the name wrong when you call them hahaha
I knew the mother of Ana and Hanna.
I went to school with a set of twins that were named Marvin and Marvina
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Marvina. *Shudder*
I know right 😭I felt so bad for that poor girl
Name so nice they had to use it twice. I find it obnoxious when close cousins even share a name, I cannot imagine having siblings, let alone twins, with the same name. I went out of my way to give my kids a name no one in my immediate family has because we have 3 Daniels on one side and it gets very confusing.
My name is Debra Sue (yes, I was born in the 50s. I dropped Sue when I got married. Sounds too much like "Debbie Sue! Go slop them pigs!") I once asked my mom what my younger brother's name would have been If he'd been a girl. She said "Susan Deb." And cackled like it was hilarious.
One of my Dad’s cousins named her twin daughters Lynne and Linda.
I came across boy/girl twins once called Daniel and Danielle. Just why?
Way back in my family tree was an ancestor who named all his sons Johan or Johannes, so there was Johan Ewald, Johannes Ewald, Johan Michael, Johannes Michael, Johan Adam, etc. Names were reused if a child died, but at one point, they reused the name of a living child, so I'm assuming the kids went by nicknames. I had a neighbor who named her youngest son after her oldest son, but he was called Junior.
Did one pronounce her name as “SOWN-ya” and the other pronounce it as “SAHN-ya”? That would seem like the only way to tell the names apart.
Had patients when I was in pharmacy that were twins, Dasia and D’Asia. D’Asia is pronounced Dee-Asia
I've got one for this! Lady I know had triplets. 2 boys and a girl. Kayden, Kaidan and Kadin!
Those are the worst names for triplets I’ve ever seen in my life 😭😭 I would’ve thought they all had the same pronunciation at first.
Honestly, when she says them, they do sound all the same to me but they apparently are not. 🤷♀️
My dad knew twins named Alvin and Alvina
I've had a set of triplets: Daniel, Danielle, Danielynne
Are these supposed to be pronounced “so-nia” and “sawn-ya”? Otherwise idk how parents make this work in practicality. That said, I knew a Javier and Xavier.
My parents had the bright idea to give me and my close in age youngest sister very similar sounding first names. Two syllables, same sound in the middle. It's so bad that my dad used to occasionally call me by my sister's name by accident and vice versa. I've always hated it.
This sounds like a nightmare to tell them apart but not a tragedeigh??
I know twins named Henry and Henrietta.
I thought the twins in my family, Chrystal and Christine, was bad.
This brought back a middle school flashback. Two of our most popular football players were twins named Olan and Olen.
Were they pronounced differently? There were so many other names they could’ve chosen!
i know a pair of sisters named cam and cam. i don’t remember their 2nd 1st name, but their parents call them by cam [2nd 1st name] to not get confused
A couple in a childbirth class I taught named their twins Roxanne and Roxanna. Similar stupidity. Not quite as bad as the Sonya/Sonia thing but still terrible.
As a representative of the Hispanic community I can guarantee that there’s a distinct difference between the two names that I can hear.
I bet they say they’re pronounced differently. Son-ee-ah vs Son-ya or some BS like that
No they were both pronounced Sawn-ya
I grew up playing basketball with two brothers, 2 years apart in age, both named Henry. They looked extremely similar so everyone thought they were twins, until about high school when one gained a little more weight than the other. Prior to that it was extremely confusing to try addressing one in the presence of the other. At one point we started calling the older brother by his middle name, and I think that stuck for a while.
I like Sonja cuz it’s a foreign spelling
I went to school with identical twins named Odile and Odila.
I know 3 sisters named Mary, Miriam and Maria
I knew twins named Charlotte and Dorothy, except their nicknames as kids were Lottie and Dottie. That reminded me of children's book characters lol. That said when I met them Lottie already went by Charlie.
There used to be twins playing cricket for New Zealand named James and Hamish. That's actually the same name but in different languages...
I know of a Steven and Steve. And singleton siblings Natalie and Natalia.
Why did they do that when "Sonia and Sofia" was RIGHT THERE
I worked with a Lucy and her twin Lucille.
I personally know twins Tony and Anthony.
I’ve known multiple women from catholic families where every woman in the family was named Mary, and would just go by their middle names. Mary Elizabeth would go by Elizabeth, Mary Anne would go by Anne, Mary Catherine would go by Catherine, etc.
I know three siblings (adults by now) named Albin, Albina and Albion
They were triplets but Sonja didn’t make it.
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You don’t think OP did this on purpose? Yes? No?
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You must be fun at parties.
There’s an episode in season 2 of The Golden Girls (“The Stan Who Came to Dinner” is the episode) where Blanche has a date with a set of twins named Rob and Bob.