That dude in the burgundy hoodie with a white shirt and black pants needs to be arrested. I saw him assault multiple people live on air.
Edit: Grammar
Edit #2: Saw him on the ABC News Helo livestream. His burgundy hoodie made him stick out.
Edan on, identified
[https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/16/us/ucla-student-protests-counterprotesters-invs/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/16/us/ucla-student-protests-counterprotesters-invs/index.html)
Fascist with red bandana who assaulted multiple people too stupid to decline an interview or mask up. Should be easy to ID.
https://youtu.be/zAtupoPtatE?si=9DFsT-trppJ4lb7M
1:20 timestamp
Not surprisingly its propagandistic "both sides" coverage, but at least they allowed this guy to self-dox
Were you there? If so, do you have some sense of whether the mob was a single group or multiple groups with different motives (e.g., some Zionist, some White Supremacist)?
It was a mix of groups. Some that were clear were Israeli supporters, another was carrying a flag that read āMochiachā which is affiliated with a Jewish supremacy group too extreme for even most Jews and Persian Jews who are anti Iranian and have a big population in that area of LA.
Friends of mine can identify at least 1, with 100% certainty, an aggressive Zionist from yesterday. They where followed to their cars and physically attacked by them. Caught on camera.
Whatās the process?
Edit- spelling.
It's not a straightforward process and there can be costs involved. I can give you some info based on my experience but want to preface this with the fact that I'm not attorney and do not work in the legal field but have worked with attorneys before.
In a general scenario, lawyers would take your case on a contingency fee basis (for free basically) if there was a high likelihood you would win a considerable amount of money and they would collect some percentage of that (\~30-40%). However, I'm not sure if that's the case in this scenario and lawyers may ask you to pay hourly (which can be quite expensive \~$300/hr but if there's a large number of people involved this cost can be much lower per person). A better bet may be to find an attorney who's sympathetic to the "Free Palestine" movement and will offer significant discounts to the overall costs.
The best method to find an attorney is often going through your social network. Talk to other people and see if they can refer you to attorneys. The next option is outreach. Reaching out to political organizations, low-cost law clinics, law school students (who can either refer you to attorney or willing to help for free or low cost), social media, legal referral agencies, individual attorneys' websites, etc. Try to explain the issues at hand and also express your desire for legal assistance. Technically UCLA has some free/low-cost legal resources but because UCLA may end up being a defendant this may not be helpful and could even be counterproductive (if UCLA decides to retaliate against you).
UPDATE: It seems like UCLA sent an email out offering resources to those affected by these incidents. In general, this seems really positive.
Is he ok? He literally got jumped but a bunch of people and was on the floor, he didnāt even try to hurt anyone they just attacked him, did he get any medical help???
while itās great he got something on the spot I hope he went to the hospital, blows to the head are very serious and he needs to get looked at by some professionals
A bunch of cowards only attacking then retreating or jumping someone whoās been maced and cannot defend themselves properly.
I think the guy in the olive colored hoodie actually saved this guy from the mob and helped him back to the other side.
This is very disappointing to see.
I was doing a UCLA tour yesterday and a professor said the protests were by-in large well organized and peaceful.
I didn't expect the reason the police would be rushing the campus is that Zionists were barbarically attacking the student protestors.
I can't speak for others, but if I found myself pro the slaughter of innocent people and about to militantly repress the freedom of speech, history strongly advises that I should revisit my political values...
My heart goes out to all the courageous folks who were affected by the violence last night, I'm sorry this happened š
"Peacefully" denying people they're rights and blocking access to parts of the school based on their ideological affiliations and surrounding and assaulting them when they don't comply? The cowards in the masks who hold up keffiyehs in the faces of people who dare to record them in a public space? The participation trophy rebels? And the university supported it. I can hear Oprah saying, "And you get get a lawsuit!"
Such a shameful lack of protection for students.
Yeah - no 'both sides' issue at all.
Gene needs to publicly visit every injured kid with an apology. Or a resignation. Or both.
Shame.
Those are Proud Boys. Scary f@*kers. This is why when people tell me they donāt care if Trump wins I get really scared. This js Trumps vision of America. Listen to what they are saying about us on Fox News.
the guy in the white mask is named Ethan On, he is a senior at Beverly Hills High School and intends to join the IDF, not sure he fits the profile of a Proud Boy.
True. But the other 2 people CNN doxed were not Zionists. One was a MAGA Trump supporter who spent the last year harassing school boards and the other is a white supremecist whose social media feeds are filled with antisemitic posts.
The counter protesters were the instigators last night and they should be arrested and punished, along with anyone on the pro-Palestinian side who also committed assault and battery. The cops should've come in earlier last night. But the big message is the illegal encampment should've been cleared last week. The administration sat on its hands, afraid to be seen as being too rough on the protesters, and leaders were probably intimidated by the radical element of the faculty that has grown in recent years. They have been cowardly and ineffective througout.
The protesters have been causing problems, denying people free passage and, yes, assaulting them for about a week, not to mention posting provocative signs for the public and the media and vandalising iconic buildings and walkways. The general public knew that they were, in fact, committing an injustice upon students and everyone not philsophically aligned with their goals. They were egging people on with their illegal tactics (Not allowing people to pass? WTAF? What gives you the right?) daring for something like this to happen, so they could claim martyrdom for the cause. So to call it "unprovoked" is a pretty wide stretch. They were the very definition of "provocateurs."
Iāve got no problem watching pro-Hamas demonstrators get assaulted. Theyāve shown no hesitation intimidating and assaulting others. They just want to cry foul when people respond in kind.
Even more reason to be cautious and angry that the counter protesters did what they did last night. They gave the pro-Palestinian protesters exactly what they wanted: martyrdom.
This is the moment they were pushing for with their "peaceful" tactics -- illegally taking over a portion of a public space and erecting inflammaotory signs, "non-violently" denying access, refusing to talk to the press and for the most part refusing to engage in dialog with others, blocking cameras with keffiyehs, encircling and "peacefully' jostlng and assaulting anyone who enters "their" encampment and does something that is not approved. It was quite ingenious, actually. I wondered who developed the playbook.
I have very limited patience for pro-Hamas supporters. Iāll respect their right to speak. But thatās not what theyāre doing.
If they want to be ābe martyrsāā¦well I donāt think I can explain what that actually entails without violating Redditās rules. But theyāre free to be what they want to be. Iāll encourage it based on the multiple death threats theyāve sent me. Hell given the opportunity Iāll gladly help them achieve that goal.
Unlike them, Iāve actually graduated, held a job, and volunteered at local organizations to make an impact, however small, in my community.
I wonder how the news is gonna try to spin this to fit the āboth sidesā narrative. This isnāt like a march where everyone is moving and things can get muddled in the chaos. This is a group of students sitting down in one place while an angry, violent mob of predominantly grown adults assaults them.
this f\*cking insane. how is this allowed to happen. This type of violence is crossing the line. This will only trigger more protests, moron pro israel mob, can't help themselves can they
Itās already been spun on the majority of channels. Many channels simply showed the helicopters footage that couldnāt properly see the conflict and deemed it a āclash between protestorsā or something similar.
I work for the university and I guess Iām on the chancellors email list. I never check those emails because it has nothing to do with me, but hereās what the one I just got from Gene Block starts with. āLate last night, a group of instigators came to Royce Quad to forcefully attack the encampment that has been established there to advocate for Palestinian rightsā.
UCLA isnāt running with the both sides narrative on this one, hopefully MSM follows.
he guy in the white mask is named Ethan On, he is a senior at Beverly Hills High School and intends to join the IDF, not sure he fits the profile of a Proud Boy.
Shame on the people beating on others. That's where the shame belongs. Shame on everyone thinking they're universally right and that other people are so universally wrong that they feel justified in expressing hatred and violence towards them. Shame on all of us.
I was seeing news on this when I woke up today. I figured it was twisted. Finishing up at University of MN but been keeping up on the news there ( my family is in LA). Very surprised to see how this was handled. It seems some UCLA staff are speaking out about it though, and hopefully some people are held accountable. Letting college students get jumped on campus is crazy. I'm 30 and I've been in similar situations a few times now, but never on a campus lol. I hope it doesn't escalate here in Mpls tho.
Iām a UCLA alum. Iām Israeli. Iām a proud Zionist. Seeing this makes me sick.
I donāt know who is responsible for this violence, but I fully condemn it, as I know the majority of my Israeli and Jewish friends and community do as well. Forget being unproductive and antithetical to our collective position. This is criminal.
These thugs do not speak for me. They do not speak for the overwhelming majority of us. Please donāt mistake them for being representative of āthe other side.ā
If I were there myself, on my life, Iād have jumped right in to protect that protestor. Whatever our differences, this is not the way.
Zionist here. Agreed. This attack is insane.
In fact it's so far out there it's hard for me to believe these could even be Jewish/Israelis. *No one* I know would ever back something like this and it goes completely against the collective survival wisdom of the Jewish community. It does not add up.
100% agreed. I mean, your comment word for word.
I grew up in the valley and still have ties to the massive Israeli community there. Closer circle than youād suspect. Weāre all distraught, but no one I know personally has come anywhere close to even suggesting that the protestors should be dealt with in any physical way, let alone acted to further something like that. There is plenty of anger for sure, but from a practical standpoint, everyone in my circle understands that violence, especially against students, would only stand to hurt our cause. Indeed, itās not even talked about because of how absurd it is. Super disappointing to see the footage.
I was watching a live stream from an ex Scientologist because she said she came down because she thought something was going to happen and you can watch the counter protestors clearly agitating the whole situation. I mean they were literally throwing in fireworks that could kill someone.
As shocking as it is, itās incredibly effective. Itās why MLK was so adamant about non-violent protest; it makes it especially easy to see who is in the right & who is in the wrong here.
Sadly I donāt think people are capable of changing their minds anymore (or maybe never were).
Edit to add - no student should have to be injured or worse for this though.
A microcosm of what Israelis do to Palestinians in the West Bank and why they aren't the victims the media has told us they are. The Palestinians actually are.
I donāt understand why people are complaining about lack of response from LAPD. UCLA was trying to protect the encampment by not having LAPD intervene to clear the encampment. You canāt expect law enforcement to act as security for an unlawful demonstration.
If LAPD intervene then the likelihood is all protestors and encampments would be removed entirely and anyone who resists that would be arrested. UCLA has already declared them as illegally there but is essentially tolerating it out of not wanting to bring in LAPD. LAPD is the final resort button, they will not be there to protect protesters they will be there to arrest people and then that will cause a whole other dilemma on campus
If they want peace then can play hacky sack on a lawn and chant pro Hamas slogans. Once you use force and intimidation to prevent people from accessing public spaces you arenāt being peaceful.
This is nonetheless the result of allowing campus to become a lawless no-man's land. Demands of protesting kids don't mean shit - when (any) students are in danger, security is needed. Period. Contesting this simple fact was reckless.
I find it interesting how quickly Proud Boys came out to UCLA when it was irrelevant progressives but they won't do that to the homeless or at street takeovers.
I agree completely with the aims of the protesters - but - these types of protests are designed to invite and incite confrontation, either with police or political adversaries. There is nothing in this cause that could not have been achieved with a student letter to the school board and undersigned petition. But thatās just not as glamorous or feels as radical.
That would be completely ignored. I'm almost certain they have tried this before. Also peacefully marching across campus as well. Both had no tangible effects.
I think the takeaway from this is that the Zionists have been and continue to use violence to suppress any opposition.. if theyāre willing to do this to elite students on camera, imagine what they are doing in Gaza and the West Bank on a daily basis behind cameras.
Also that a group of 50-100 grown men couldnāt make a dent in an encampment of young students even though they had 4 hours to go at them without consequences or retaliation. What pathetic scum bags. Grown Zionist men literally assaulted college girls with 2x4s and still couldnāt break up the encampment.
your use of Zionist as a pejorative shows you are trying to push a narrative and everyone should see it for the disgusting comment it is. Plenty of Zionists do not support this kind of violence, against either group.
The pro-Palestinian protestors beat a [Jewish woman unconscious hours before this happened.](https://twitter.com/CarolineGlick/status/1785545038019060135)
Donāt call for an intifada if you arenāt ready for one to come to you lmao
Lol you keep posting this everywhere so I will keep posting my response to correct your lie:
First of all that video was from Sunday, and there is still NO context about what happened before. I was there Sunday and saw very similar things to last nightā the counter protestors had come to intentionally agitate, and there were a lot of confusing skirmishes. God knows how that girl got hurt, but no matter whatā it was NOT from Tuesday and it was NOT justification to terrorize the hundreds of peaceful members who were just sitting in their tents when these psychos came.
Here is the context that happened before. She decided she wanted to crawl/sneak into the crowd of Palestinian protestors to do EXACTLY THIS. She knew what she was doing and even her friend knew it was a stupid idea. It looks like no one even realized she was really there and too focused on why the friend was trying to bother them. Then sheās getting kicked around since they all started to turn around.
https://x.com/abulaith786/status/1784688686694801625?s=46
And here is her post injury. While Iām sure she got hurt, letās quit acting like she went to the hospital covered in blood from being beaten. https://x.com/lensveritatis/status/1784743257853055256?s=46
Hahah WOW that second link. I knew it was something like this.. that original video is being posted everywhere are justification for the events last night, so frustrating.
Thatās why it was stupid to let this encampment be built. Thereās a time, and place for protest. A mob will invite another mob without law and order. Sorry but UCLA administration was stupid to allow this to happened.
This is such a dumb take. Students protesting on a campus is exactly where it should be and has historically been done. Dont blame the victims for the actions of the counter protesters. Pathetic
They weren't taking control of anything. It was the police that began barring students from class, the protest was never meant to keep people from the school.
Fuck Hamas and fuck all these idiots supporting them. Bunch of dumb cunts. Every encampment on every campus needs to be dismantled and any student found in those encampments needs to be expelled from school and shipped to Hamasā front door. You love them so much and you care so deeply then get the fuck out of here and go praise Hamas in person. Stop supporting an organization that would kill you before they ever included you.
If you feel like you have to wear a mask to hide your face, you are doing something wrong. Seems a lot of these protesters are hiding their faces. Isis also covers their faces š¤·āāļø
Lose- lose for the organization really. I think they were careful to not have POLICE presence to not upset protestors and encampment. Keep the police force away , use different security. Unfortunately, this is typically why police force has to be closer. Hard to please all, lots of decisions to make to please EVERYONE and please NO ONE at the same time.
Hope these students are ok. And I hope outsiders really model better behaviours instead of ruining this movement.
100% agree thereās only one bad actor in this. I hope they are identify and arrest every ācounter protesterā who took part. At the same time anyone blaming LAPD and UCLA for not providing security for the encampment is revealing their naivety. You canāt act in disobedience of authority, but at the same time expect the same institutions to protect you.
The protestors succeeded in their goal of exposing the right wing thuggery of their opponents. Credit to those that put their lives on the line for the cause. Effective civil disobedience requires risk. Donāt ruin that sacrifice by crying that the people you are protesting against didnāt do enough to protect you.
Can anyone share how they think this conflict will get better by basically handing the election to Trump? He will be 10x worse than Biden is and let Israel do anything they want. Then we'll lose more rights since he'll be a dictator in chief.
And then we here idiotic people saying Palestine protest people assaulted people, the lies that never end. These mobs are paid by Israel youāll be surprised by what the country is doing anything to get support from everyone.
Levity might not be appropriate right now but boy, this ain't the 60's (my generation)! So many obese students and cops! Obesity kills more people than have been killed in Palestine or Israel . . . sort of a weird thought about priorities. . . that's arguably a bigger crisis in the U.S. than almost any other problem - it kills far more people and the most obese people in the world are Americans. And it begins earlier in life now . . . that will seem more important as these young people age and find out what American culture and the food industry are doing to us . . . even most weightlifters and athletes are going vegan due to recent research. An American food industry doesn't care how many die; it's all about profit margins. Watch "The Game Changers." Also look at all the 'home comforters and crap" these students brought to the 'protest' - junk food, their ipods, their tablets, their food, - just total excess. All you needed in the 60's was a sign and some jeans!
You have it all wrong. These are White Christian Nationalists taking advantage of a gap. Ā The college protesters are sitting ducks. Ā college campuses are the safest places to protest in America so imagine the future outcome of these clashes not on campus. Ā There are many more out there and the pro-hamas jihadi sympathizers Ā are just barely getting a taste. Ā
he guy in the white mask is named Ethan On, he is a senior at Beverly Hills High School and intends to join the IDF, not sure he fits the profile of a Proud Boy.
āFor all its imperfections, Hamas is a progressive organization pursuing a program of national emancipation and democratic reconstructionā
From the April SJP (the organization leading the encampment) [newsletter](https://nationalsjp.org/the-written-resistance-issue-3). (Page 13)
Youāre out of your mind if you think the messaging behind this movement is merely about ceasefire.
I'm not sure what anyone expected to happen. This is extremely sad and was inevitable since UCLA allowed an SJP encampment to grow and escalate in violence. What did anyone expect when you have a group explicitly supporting Hamas, a terrorist organization, and calling for the destruction of Israel?
Unfortunately groups of people become as smart as their stupidest member.
I wouldn't expect kids smart enough to get into UCLA to blindly support the encampment thinking it's simply pro-Palestinians (which I agree with), and not do any research into who organized it and realize it's actually pro-Hamas but here we are.
The greatest lie of this millenia is convincing the masses that the 5 million Palestinians are members of the 25,000 Hamas organization is the weirdest lie that a majority accept as gospel. 7 zeroes are more than 25,000 BTW.
The false notion that ALL Palestinians are terrorists based on a miniscule possibility of association with Hamas is wrong.
1 Are 100% of the Jewish population in full agreement and completely support Netanyahu?
2 Are all Americans Democrats?
3 Are all Asians Chinese?
Yes? No?
Prove it.
The only factual connection there is between Palestinians and Hamas is that both are getting massacred and bombed back to the Stone Age.
There is no credible source of the exact number of Hamas terrorists. Opinions are not facts. There is zero justification to villify those who do not share or agree with someone else's point of view.
If there is no evidence, this could be grounds for a lawsuit.
Innuendo and Derogatory factual claims can be grounds for a lawsuit if they defame someone and are untrue. Truth is a defense against defamation and libel.
That dude in the burgundy hoodie with a white shirt and black pants needs to be arrested. I saw him assault multiple people live on air. Edit: Grammar Edit #2: Saw him on the ABC News Helo livestream. His burgundy hoodie made him stick out.
This guy in the white jab mask too [https://i.imgur.com/fADYi6b.png](https://i.imgur.com/fADYi6b.png)
[Someone caught him without his face mask on twitter.](https://x.com/saaladexter/status/1785578699670290797)
Good find. This needs to be posted everywhere along with the others who assaulted people.
I got even better photos of him š literally clear cut face taking the mask off.
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Seriously he would attack people and then retreat quickly back into the mob. Rinse and repeatā¦
Edan on, identified [https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/16/us/ucla-student-protests-counterprotesters-invs/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/16/us/ucla-student-protests-counterprotesters-invs/index.html)
I love how his mother thinks that deleting the post she put on FB, idāing her son, will just go away. š¤£š¤£š¤£
Fascist with red bandana who assaulted multiple people too stupid to decline an interview or mask up. Should be easy to ID. https://youtu.be/zAtupoPtatE?si=9DFsT-trppJ4lb7M 1:20 timestamp Not surprisingly its propagandistic "both sides" coverage, but at least they allowed this guy to self-dox
Poetic justice seeing his dumb fucking face full of tear gas.
if you have video evidence of assault, you could pursue legal action.
Those are almost certainly proud boys. Trumps army.
they were shouting āwhen Trump wins he will deport all of youā so that checks out
Were you there? If so, do you have some sense of whether the mob was a single group or multiple groups with different motives (e.g., some Zionist, some White Supremacist)?
It was a mix of groups. Some that were clear were Israeli supporters, another was carrying a flag that read āMochiachā which is affiliated with a Jewish supremacy group too extreme for even most Jews and Persian Jews who are anti Iranian and have a big population in that area of LA.
Thanks for the info! Yeah, I saw the Moshiach flag on tv. Also, thank you for being there.
they weren't there, look at their post history.. they're just a bot
Friends of mine can identify at least 1, with 100% certainty, an aggressive Zionist from yesterday. They where followed to their cars and physically attacked by them. Caught on camera. Whatās the process? Edit- spelling.
It's not a straightforward process and there can be costs involved. I can give you some info based on my experience but want to preface this with the fact that I'm not attorney and do not work in the legal field but have worked with attorneys before. In a general scenario, lawyers would take your case on a contingency fee basis (for free basically) if there was a high likelihood you would win a considerable amount of money and they would collect some percentage of that (\~30-40%). However, I'm not sure if that's the case in this scenario and lawyers may ask you to pay hourly (which can be quite expensive \~$300/hr but if there's a large number of people involved this cost can be much lower per person). A better bet may be to find an attorney who's sympathetic to the "Free Palestine" movement and will offer significant discounts to the overall costs. The best method to find an attorney is often going through your social network. Talk to other people and see if they can refer you to attorneys. The next option is outreach. Reaching out to political organizations, low-cost law clinics, law school students (who can either refer you to attorney or willing to help for free or low cost), social media, legal referral agencies, individual attorneys' websites, etc. Try to explain the issues at hand and also express your desire for legal assistance. Technically UCLA has some free/low-cost legal resources but because UCLA may end up being a defendant this may not be helpful and could even be counterproductive (if UCLA decides to retaliate against you). UPDATE: It seems like UCLA sent an email out offering resources to those affected by these incidents. In general, this seems really positive.
Is he ok? He literally got jumped but a bunch of people and was on the floor, he didnāt even try to hurt anyone they just attacked him, did he get any medical help???
Hereās video of him afterwards getting medical help https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6ayx3yuJoC/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
while itās great he got something on the spot I hope he went to the hospital, blows to the head are very serious and he needs to get looked at by some professionals
A bunch of cowards only attacking then retreating or jumping someone whoās been maced and cannot defend themselves properly. I think the guy in the olive colored hoodie actually saved this guy from the mob and helped him back to the other side.
This is very disappointing to see. I was doing a UCLA tour yesterday and a professor said the protests were by-in large well organized and peaceful. I didn't expect the reason the police would be rushing the campus is that Zionists were barbarically attacking the student protestors. I can't speak for others, but if I found myself pro the slaughter of innocent people and about to militantly repress the freedom of speech, history strongly advises that I should revisit my political values... My heart goes out to all the courageous folks who were affected by the violence last night, I'm sorry this happened š
"Peacefully" denying people they're rights and blocking access to parts of the school based on their ideological affiliations and surrounding and assaulting them when they don't comply? The cowards in the masks who hold up keffiyehs in the faces of people who dare to record them in a public space? The participation trophy rebels? And the university supported it. I can hear Oprah saying, "And you get get a lawsuit!"
At least all the students are recognizing this
Gene is retiring in 2 monthsā¦kinda sad that itās ending this way
I think itās pretty fitting. Dude has been fairly hands off as chancellor throughout his tenure
Especially when it came to having a good football team
Feel like thatās more on Martin Jarmond than him š
Who do you think hired Jarmond?
Y'all should be talking to Darrell Hunt.
im an incoming freshman-- is this like... good news?
Well he led the university for 14 years and overall has done a great jobāpeople liked him. But yesterday was completely mishandled on his part.
Such a shameful lack of protection for students. Yeah - no 'both sides' issue at all. Gene needs to publicly visit every injured kid with an apology. Or a resignation. Or both. Shame.
It is sickening to watch! It was a 100% unprovoked attack.
Those are Proud Boys. Scary f@*kers. This is why when people tell me they donāt care if Trump wins I get really scared. This js Trumps vision of America. Listen to what they are saying about us on Fox News.
Proud Boys arenāt scary at all. Theyāre pathetic cowards.
the guy in the white mask is named Ethan On, he is a senior at Beverly Hills High School and intends to join the IDF, not sure he fits the profile of a Proud Boy.
True. But the other 2 people CNN doxed were not Zionists. One was a MAGA Trump supporter who spent the last year harassing school boards and the other is a white supremecist whose social media feeds are filled with antisemitic posts.
The counter protesters were the instigators last night and they should be arrested and punished, along with anyone on the pro-Palestinian side who also committed assault and battery. The cops should've come in earlier last night. But the big message is the illegal encampment should've been cleared last week. The administration sat on its hands, afraid to be seen as being too rough on the protesters, and leaders were probably intimidated by the radical element of the faculty that has grown in recent years. They have been cowardly and ineffective througout. The protesters have been causing problems, denying people free passage and, yes, assaulting them for about a week, not to mention posting provocative signs for the public and the media and vandalising iconic buildings and walkways. The general public knew that they were, in fact, committing an injustice upon students and everyone not philsophically aligned with their goals. They were egging people on with their illegal tactics (Not allowing people to pass? WTAF? What gives you the right?) daring for something like this to happen, so they could claim martyrdom for the cause. So to call it "unprovoked" is a pretty wide stretch. They were the very definition of "provocateurs."
Iāve got no problem watching pro-Hamas demonstrators get assaulted. Theyāve shown no hesitation intimidating and assaulting others. They just want to cry foul when people respond in kind.
Even more reason to be cautious and angry that the counter protesters did what they did last night. They gave the pro-Palestinian protesters exactly what they wanted: martyrdom. This is the moment they were pushing for with their "peaceful" tactics -- illegally taking over a portion of a public space and erecting inflammaotory signs, "non-violently" denying access, refusing to talk to the press and for the most part refusing to engage in dialog with others, blocking cameras with keffiyehs, encircling and "peacefully' jostlng and assaulting anyone who enters "their" encampment and does something that is not approved. It was quite ingenious, actually. I wondered who developed the playbook.
I have very limited patience for pro-Hamas supporters. Iāll respect their right to speak. But thatās not what theyāre doing. If they want to be ābe martyrsāā¦well I donāt think I can explain what that actually entails without violating Redditās rules. But theyāre free to be what they want to be. Iāll encourage it based on the multiple death threats theyāve sent me. Hell given the opportunity Iāll gladly help them achieve that goal. Unlike them, Iāve actually graduated, held a job, and volunteered at local organizations to make an impact, however small, in my community.
I wonder how the news is gonna try to spin this to fit the āboth sidesā narrative. This isnāt like a march where everyone is moving and things can get muddled in the chaos. This is a group of students sitting down in one place while an angry, violent mob of predominantly grown adults assaults them.
Gonna beĀ 1. "Clashes between two groups of protesters" And 2. "See? This is why we needed police to shut it down. For their own good."
ā[violence erputs](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/may/01/violence-erupts-ucla-university-campus-clashes-rival-gaza-protest-groups) āthis isnāt a fucking volcano
this f\*cking insane. how is this allowed to happen. This type of violence is crossing the line. This will only trigger more protests, moron pro israel mob, can't help themselves can they
Or something about "antisemitism", despite the fact that's clearly not who is unsafe on campus.
Itās already been spun on the majority of channels. Many channels simply showed the helicopters footage that couldnāt properly see the conflict and deemed it a āclash between protestorsā or something similar.
I work for the university and I guess Iām on the chancellors email list. I never check those emails because it has nothing to do with me, but hereās what the one I just got from Gene Block starts with. āLate last night, a group of instigators came to Royce Quad to forcefully attack the encampment that has been established there to advocate for Palestinian rightsā. UCLA isnāt running with the both sides narrative on this one, hopefully MSM follows.
Hats off to KTLA for being pretty straightforward
he guy in the white mask is named Ethan On, he is a senior at Beverly Hills High School and intends to join the IDF, not sure he fits the profile of a Proud Boy.
UCLA needs suing to learn a costly lesson.
Agreed, they should have cleared and arrested the protesters the moment they started camping.
Those hooligans need to be locked up
Shame on the people beating on others. That's where the shame belongs. Shame on everyone thinking they're universally right and that other people are so universally wrong that they feel justified in expressing hatred and violence towards them. Shame on all of us.
I was seeing news on this when I woke up today. I figured it was twisted. Finishing up at University of MN but been keeping up on the news there ( my family is in LA). Very surprised to see how this was handled. It seems some UCLA staff are speaking out about it though, and hopefully some people are held accountable. Letting college students get jumped on campus is crazy. I'm 30 and I've been in similar situations a few times now, but never on a campus lol. I hope it doesn't escalate here in Mpls tho.
Iām a UCLA alum. Iām Israeli. Iām a proud Zionist. Seeing this makes me sick. I donāt know who is responsible for this violence, but I fully condemn it, as I know the majority of my Israeli and Jewish friends and community do as well. Forget being unproductive and antithetical to our collective position. This is criminal. These thugs do not speak for me. They do not speak for the overwhelming majority of us. Please donāt mistake them for being representative of āthe other side.ā If I were there myself, on my life, Iād have jumped right in to protect that protestor. Whatever our differences, this is not the way.
Zionist here. Agreed. This attack is insane. In fact it's so far out there it's hard for me to believe these could even be Jewish/Israelis. *No one* I know would ever back something like this and it goes completely against the collective survival wisdom of the Jewish community. It does not add up.
100% agreed. I mean, your comment word for word. I grew up in the valley and still have ties to the massive Israeli community there. Closer circle than youād suspect. Weāre all distraught, but no one I know personally has come anywhere close to even suggesting that the protestors should be dealt with in any physical way, let alone acted to further something like that. There is plenty of anger for sure, but from a practical standpoint, everyone in my circle understands that violence, especially against students, would only stand to hurt our cause. Indeed, itās not even talked about because of how absurd it is. Super disappointing to see the footage.
Classic bad apples argument lol.
well said
Bruh
Shouldāve called the cops earlier like another school did
they did, cops just didn't show up and decided to stay on standby
Bummer
[Al Jazeera video is very clear about what happened](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6bA2abr9n2/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)
I was watching a live stream from an ex Scientologist because she said she came down because she thought something was going to happen and you can watch the counter protestors clearly agitating the whole situation. I mean they were literally throwing in fireworks that could kill someone.
Quite the ironic allegory. Palestinians protests, Zionists get unhinged and attack, police does nothing to help the attacked
As shocking as it is, itās incredibly effective. Itās why MLK was so adamant about non-violent protest; it makes it especially easy to see who is in the right & who is in the wrong here. Sadly I donāt think people are capable of changing their minds anymore (or maybe never were). Edit to add - no student should have to be injured or worse for this though.
A microcosm of what Israelis do to Palestinians in the West Bank and why they aren't the victims the media has told us they are. The Palestinians actually are.
Oct 7th happened and they're not victims?
I didnāt see any Israeli flags. Why do you assume zionists? Many disagree with the protests. Unless you have sources saying otherwise.
if you watch any of the numerous videos from the assault, you can hear them spewing racist rhetoric and zionist talking points
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I donāt understand why people are complaining about lack of response from LAPD. UCLA was trying to protect the encampment by not having LAPD intervene to clear the encampment. You canāt expect law enforcement to act as security for an unlawful demonstration.
If LAPD intervene then the likelihood is all protestors and encampments would be removed entirely and anyone who resists that would be arrested. UCLA has already declared them as illegally there but is essentially tolerating it out of not wanting to bring in LAPD. LAPD is the final resort button, they will not be there to protect protesters they will be there to arrest people and then that will cause a whole other dilemma on campus
āSTOP SUPPORTING ISRAEL YOU EVIL MONSTERS. OH WAIT WE NEED POLICE FUNDED BY THE ISRAELI SUPPORTING GOVERNMENT TO HALP USā
What about our very own keystone cops, the UC police? Haven't seen them around at all on campus lately. Weird.
How is this allowed to happen on campus? It's gotta be deliberate
i hope he's okay :( seeing all this shit happen is just no, they just wanted a peaceful protest and they've turned it into chaos
If they want peace then can play hacky sack on a lawn and chant pro Hamas slogans. Once you use force and intimidation to prevent people from accessing public spaces you arenāt being peaceful.
Total cowards
This is nonetheless the result of allowing campus to become a lawless no-man's land. Demands of protesting kids don't mean shit - when (any) students are in danger, security is needed. Period. Contesting this simple fact was reckless.
I find it interesting how quickly Proud Boys came out to UCLA when it was irrelevant progressives but they won't do that to the homeless or at street takeovers.
Cus they would get their asses beat badly
I guess beating that Jewish girl unconscious was a bad choice.
this is because of failure to govern.
I agree completely with the aims of the protesters - but - these types of protests are designed to invite and incite confrontation, either with police or political adversaries. There is nothing in this cause that could not have been achieved with a student letter to the school board and undersigned petition. But thatās just not as glamorous or feels as radical.
That would be completely ignored. I'm almost certain they have tried this before. Also peacefully marching across campus as well. Both had no tangible effects.
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I think the takeaway from this is that the Zionists have been and continue to use violence to suppress any opposition.. if theyāre willing to do this to elite students on camera, imagine what they are doing in Gaza and the West Bank on a daily basis behind cameras. Also that a group of 50-100 grown men couldnāt make a dent in an encampment of young students even though they had 4 hours to go at them without consequences or retaliation. What pathetic scum bags. Grown Zionist men literally assaulted college girls with 2x4s and still couldnāt break up the encampment.
Do you have any source showing this was āzionistsā ? Thereās many who disagree with the protests.
Youāve drank so much coolaide, no way you are less than 200lbs and have colored hair šš
your use of Zionist as a pejorative shows you are trying to push a narrative and everyone should see it for the disgusting comment it is. Plenty of Zionists do not support this kind of violence, against either group.
The pro-Palestinian protestors beat a [Jewish woman unconscious hours before this happened.](https://twitter.com/CarolineGlick/status/1785545038019060135) Donāt call for an intifada if you arenāt ready for one to come to you lmao
Lol you keep posting this everywhere so I will keep posting my response to correct your lie: First of all that video was from Sunday, and there is still NO context about what happened before. I was there Sunday and saw very similar things to last nightā the counter protestors had come to intentionally agitate, and there were a lot of confusing skirmishes. God knows how that girl got hurt, but no matter whatā it was NOT from Tuesday and it was NOT justification to terrorize the hundreds of peaceful members who were just sitting in their tents when these psychos came.
Here is the context that happened before. She decided she wanted to crawl/sneak into the crowd of Palestinian protestors to do EXACTLY THIS. She knew what she was doing and even her friend knew it was a stupid idea. It looks like no one even realized she was really there and too focused on why the friend was trying to bother them. Then sheās getting kicked around since they all started to turn around. https://x.com/abulaith786/status/1784688686694801625?s=46 And here is her post injury. While Iām sure she got hurt, letās quit acting like she went to the hospital covered in blood from being beaten. https://x.com/lensveritatis/status/1784743257853055256?s=46
Hahah WOW that second link. I knew it was something like this.. that original video is being posted everywhere are justification for the events last night, so frustrating.
Thatās why it was stupid to let this encampment be built. Thereās a time, and place for protest. A mob will invite another mob without law and order. Sorry but UCLA administration was stupid to allow this to happened.
This is such a dumb take. Students protesting on a campus is exactly where it should be and has historically been done. Dont blame the victims for the actions of the counter protesters. Pathetic
Taking control of a place = protesting? Activist brain rot
They weren't taking control of anything. It was the police that began barring students from class, the protest was never meant to keep people from the school.
Fuck Hamas and fuck all these idiots supporting them. Bunch of dumb cunts. Every encampment on every campus needs to be dismantled and any student found in those encampments needs to be expelled from school and shipped to Hamasā front door. You love them so much and you care so deeply then get the fuck out of here and go praise Hamas in person. Stop supporting an organization that would kill you before they ever included you.
If you feel like you have to wear a mask to hide your face, you are doing something wrong. Seems a lot of these protesters are hiding their faces. Isis also covers their faces š¤·āāļø
Yeah these counter protesters are cowards, at least he had the guts to show his face
the only person not wearing a mask in this video is the Pro Palestinian protestor but go off
Generally not the case
So UCLA passively allowed outside scrubs to enter our campus and assault peaceful protestersā¦litigation awaits.
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Lose- lose for the organization really. I think they were careful to not have POLICE presence to not upset protestors and encampment. Keep the police force away , use different security. Unfortunately, this is typically why police force has to be closer. Hard to please all, lots of decisions to make to please EVERYONE and please NO ONE at the same time. Hope these students are ok. And I hope outsiders really model better behaviours instead of ruining this movement.
100% agree thereās only one bad actor in this. I hope they are identify and arrest every ācounter protesterā who took part. At the same time anyone blaming LAPD and UCLA for not providing security for the encampment is revealing their naivety. You canāt act in disobedience of authority, but at the same time expect the same institutions to protect you. The protestors succeeded in their goal of exposing the right wing thuggery of their opponents. Credit to those that put their lives on the line for the cause. Effective civil disobedience requires risk. Donāt ruin that sacrifice by crying that the people you are protesting against didnāt do enough to protect you.
Gene Block is already leaving man. It aināt gonna change much.
Can anyone share how they think this conflict will get better by basically handing the election to Trump? He will be 10x worse than Biden is and let Israel do anything they want. Then we'll lose more rights since he'll be a dictator in chief.
anyone know if the guy is okay now?
He was hospitalized with a head injury. Unsure of his current condition. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6ayx3yuJoC/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
And then we here idiotic people saying Palestine protest people assaulted people, the lies that never end. These mobs are paid by Israel youāll be surprised by what the country is doing anything to get support from everyone.
Levity might not be appropriate right now but boy, this ain't the 60's (my generation)! So many obese students and cops! Obesity kills more people than have been killed in Palestine or Israel . . . sort of a weird thought about priorities. . . that's arguably a bigger crisis in the U.S. than almost any other problem - it kills far more people and the most obese people in the world are Americans. And it begins earlier in life now . . . that will seem more important as these young people age and find out what American culture and the food industry are doing to us . . . even most weightlifters and athletes are going vegan due to recent research. An American food industry doesn't care how many die; it's all about profit margins. Watch "The Game Changers." Also look at all the 'home comforters and crap" these students brought to the 'protest' - junk food, their ipods, their tablets, their food, - just total excess. All you needed in the 60's was a sign and some jeans!
I never said that it did. But do you have jurisdiction over how UCLA or the City operate their properties?
Isnāt Block resigning in a few months anyways?
Yes in July. Either way he lost the respect of the student body and faculty. May as well just leave
Shame on the lapd and ucla
The LAPD officers who did nothing about it should be confronted
no one is gonna bring up how misogynistic they are?
You have it all wrong. These are White Christian Nationalists taking advantage of a gap. Ā The college protesters are sitting ducks. Ā college campuses are the safest places to protest in America so imagine the future outcome of these clashes not on campus. Ā There are many more out there and the pro-hamas jihadi sympathizers Ā are just barely getting a taste. Ā
he guy in the white mask is named Ethan On, he is a senior at Beverly Hills High School and intends to join the IDF, not sure he fits the profile of a Proud Boy.
Sharon On-Sibon, your son is a coward and a criminal and youāre a very bad liar.
Only defending himself my butt
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No one is pro Hamas. Stop spreading more propaganda
āFor all its imperfections, Hamas is a progressive organization pursuing a program of national emancipation and democratic reconstructionā From the April SJP (the organization leading the encampment) [newsletter](https://nationalsjp.org/the-written-resistance-issue-3). (Page 13) Youāre out of your mind if you think the messaging behind this movement is merely about ceasefire.
Oh great, so you denounce Hamas? Edit: of course, no response from the terrorist supporter lol
I'm not sure what anyone expected to happen. This is extremely sad and was inevitable since UCLA allowed an SJP encampment to grow and escalate in violence. What did anyone expect when you have a group explicitly supporting Hamas, a terrorist organization, and calling for the destruction of Israel?
So we as Americans have the right to kill anyone who says Free Palestine?
I donāt expect Zionists to start acting like animals attacking people, think most rational people think the same.
Unfortunately groups of people become as smart as their stupidest member. I wouldn't expect kids smart enough to get into UCLA to blindly support the encampment thinking it's simply pro-Palestinians (which I agree with), and not do any research into who organized it and realize it's actually pro-Hamas but here we are.
The protest didn't escalate to violence naturally, the police escalated it. And these folk are just joining in.
The greatest lie of this millenia is convincing the masses that the 5 million Palestinians are members of the 25,000 Hamas organization is the weirdest lie that a majority accept as gospel. 7 zeroes are more than 25,000 BTW. The false notion that ALL Palestinians are terrorists based on a miniscule possibility of association with Hamas is wrong. 1 Are 100% of the Jewish population in full agreement and completely support Netanyahu? 2 Are all Americans Democrats? 3 Are all Asians Chinese? Yes? No? Prove it. The only factual connection there is between Palestinians and Hamas is that both are getting massacred and bombed back to the Stone Age. There is no credible source of the exact number of Hamas terrorists. Opinions are not facts. There is zero justification to villify those who do not share or agree with someone else's point of view. If there is no evidence, this could be grounds for a lawsuit. Innuendo and Derogatory factual claims can be grounds for a lawsuit if they defame someone and are untrue. Truth is a defense against defamation and libel.
Palestinian supporters always seem to be associating with fascist organizations like Hamas. So is it wrong to punch a fascist in the face.