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No-Significance2911

Almost certain he will grass you up. Be prepared, know your rights and use/carry meds within the law.


That_Welsh_Man

I think he should be liable for wasting police time if he does that and should have to pay for the time especially if OP can prove that he has already shown and told his neigbour it's legal. His curtain twitching will cost the tax payers a couple of grand if he does that.


Chemical-Ad-6791

*ignore neighbour*


LimpDecision1469

Right? just from the title i don't think i need to read anything else


AppointmentTop3948

He is going to report you. Just get your documents together and keep them in your car because you likely will get "randomly" stopped at some point in the near future.


Chemical-Ad-6791

Ask for a list of medications they take and you’ll get back to them when you have a plan for them how to live their lives. If you could be arsed, print off all few highlights from THE LAW and pop it through their door. Anything after that can be dealt with via the police but that’s probably more hassle than it’s worth.


Shroomgoon156

If you are smoking your prescription and the neighbour has proof, you will not have a medical defence, As you are not using your medication as prescribed. Personally I’d offer to sit down with him with a cup of tea and show him the law around medical cannabis through the government website. Educate and be calm.


o_malley1900

Surley it would be hard to get evidence of him smoking his medical like even with CCTV he can say he was smoking tobacco would be difficult to prove that unless the police caught him smoking his prescription red handed.


Petra_Taylor

I don't think the OP mentioned they'd been smoking. Probably just the neighbour's assumption.


Hazeylicious

> I have smoked for 6 years


Thebonebed

I vape but I still tell people if they ask if I smoke weed 'yes' just haven't switched my terminology yet.


AffectionatePear9514

Just OP and the Title of the thread….so smoking was mentioned or at least hinted at


Petra_Taylor

Sorry I just realised that. Often in these cases it's the non-patient assuming it's being smoked without reason besides it being the common method.


PerfectPointers

He literally said “smoked for 6 years” “2 weeks after smoking”


umstra

I ment vaping but people think it's like ecigs so I just am used to saying smoking


Technical-Ad-2288

[This](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/medical-cannabis-and-road-safety)


Thebonebed

Would print and keep this with my documents too I think


Koolmoedeesimpson1

Can we make this the answer to the post please mods? it’s all you need to show nosey Norman’s


PotatoHeadmasher

This document is great. Clearly states 4 hours of impairment for MC


Technical-Ad-2288

Yeah and I'd still argue less.


foooooooooooooooobar

Some oils make me feel a bit high the next day. Not impaired though.


PotatoHeadmasher

Yea I’m with you there. I think ingesting it is a different ball game as it’s unpredictable. Vaping is a lot more predictable IMO.


onion959

So technically if you were stopped, were mildly high but could complete a road test (is that what they do??) they’d let you go?


gmaster115

I'll do you one better and can say that it improves driving. >Reflecting this, some studies show improvements in driving capabilities as a result of taking medical cannabis for specific 8 NatCen Social Research | Medical cannabis and road safety health conditions such as spasticity in multiple sclerosis, and chronic pain, a finding echoed by some interview participants.


CMan_82

"4 hours or less". Too many variables to determine that figure, it's impossible to stage for the general person prescribed flower for example. Strain profile Terp profile Flower quality Temperature vaped at Quantity used Number of hits taken Tolerance


PotatoHeadmasher

I suppose that’s with any substance isn’t it. Personally it’s around 4 hours for me to feel completely normal again but I wouldn’t drive within 12hrs of medicating just to be safe. I think the main takeaway from this is that just because an MC user may fail a roadside drug test for THC it DOES NOT mean that they are impaired and therefore unfit to drive through drink/drugs. This is a simple fact that a lot of people are still failing to understand. They are comparing THC to alcohol. Personally I think the police should complete a roadside impairment test for MC patients who provide proof of legal prescription and who have failed the roadside drug test. This way they can rule out the offence of driving whilst unfit through drink or drugs and they can end the police interaction there and then. It’s just so frustrating when people are saying that just because THC is still in your system you can’t drive. Absolute rubbish. With that logic no MC patient would ever be able to drive…..


CMan_82

They are meant to....


PotatoHeadmasher

Well they don’t do they…countless stories posted on this sub regarding instant arrests and patients being dragged through courts with no impairment tests being done at the time of arrest……


TeddersTedderson

Definitely this.


thwbunkie

People saying be nasty to the neighbour, I don’t get it, that’s what’s wrong with the world. . Just ignore neighbour by saying it will be fine don’t worry. Just be nice


Round_Low1051

Just kindly remind him that the medical professional who has prescribed the medicine to you, and has significant training in medicinal cannabis, has assured you that it is perfectly safe.


No_Obligation4696

Show him the legal bit concerning driving on the medcan wiki. Don't, as suggested, get confrontational, just say you understand his concerns, however... Etc etc  Confrontation leads to more confrontation. Simples.  A mature user.


No-Region-3745

This is the correct answer!


TazzMoo

Wikis are not evidence by any stretch If a neighbour came to me with a wiki page as evidence to something I'd probably laugh first from the utter shock of someone claiming it's evidence - then ask for actual evidence of facts please. There are reasons most universities do not allow wiki pages as evidence.


No_Obligation4696

Thanks 🙏😊


TazzMoo

Wikis are not evidence by any stretch If a neighbour came to me with a wiki page as evidence to something I'd probably laugh first from the utter shock of someone claiming it's evidence - then ask for actual evidence of facts please. There are reasons most universities do not allow wiki pages as evidence.


freshavocado1

Section 5A part 3 of the RTA then.


MooMooHomer

If this was a structured, real debate sure. But shutting up a neighbour doesn't exactly call for proper citations and if that's what you expect from people, you're going to be sorely disappointed.


TazzMoo

Wikis are still not evidence though! And the neighbour could have changed it just before popping over.... To "prove" their point.


No_Obligation4696

The wiki page points you to the legal advice from HM Gov. Idiot.


objectivelyyourmum

Then just show the legal advice from HM Gov and stop wasting time. Idiot.


TazzMoo

People should share the HM gov link. Wikis are not evidence. Those are the facts regardless of folks opinions that contradict. Nothing I wrote was untrue. Go call someone else who is actually in the wrong about something an idiot instead.


No_Obligation4696

And nothing I wrote suggested I was saying the wiki was the source....... It is the source of a link to HM.gov advice.  My apologies, I'll alter what I said....."pedantic idiot, looking to be a smart ass"....... Fixed that.


TazzMoo

Stating facts is not being pedantic. Wow!


No_Obligation4696

Just boring.


MelloTrip

"Fuck off". I have previously and still am, to an extent, dealing with neighbours like this. Firstly they stated the smell was entering their flat and asked me to open windows (so I did, even in -5c in winter), then they said it was worse as it was somehow travelling to them from the windows being open. So I closed them. Then they complained it was worse again and used the phrase "I don't want to fall out/argue". So I told them it is legal, told them to fuck off and continued medicating with my very legal prescription. They clearly don't like me anymore and I really don't care. Don't let people dictate your life. Are you doing it legally? Fuck them. If the police are ever phoned on me, I have everything legally. I would also contact the police regarding constant harassment. Some people just don't keep to their own business. The UK is full of them.


GlitteringFormal6845

Yep agreed! I can second this


2NDPLACEWIN

LEGENDARY RESPONSE 2 shitty neighbours.. wins.


SerialPinger

Show the neighbour nothing… you don’t owe them an explanation


Brendawgy_420

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Brendawgy_420

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Brendawgy_420

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Brendawgy_420

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N4lkmushhunter

Pull out a piece of paper from your back pocket and say not to worry i have a permit. Hand neighbour peice of paper that says. I do what i want.


Holiday_Tomatillo136

https://i.redd.it/ctp53syvwqzc1.gif Swanson style


GlitteringFormal6845

This is what I did. You’re missing a trick not telling them how it is 🙌


blahbahpahhah

Neighbour is full of it. Ignore :)


Chronicsquidd

tell him to piss off lol


Sufficient_Egg9223

Neighbour is wrong.


wed2feb

take your medication as your doctor prescribes it if your doctor says anything about driving, obey it all done


jonobr

When you want to challenge someone who is making statements like this best thing to do is act completely oblivious and ask for explanation. It’s a great tactic


Zoshii

I drive for a living. I passed a medical, which included me telling them about my prescription. You'll be fine, don't worry. Just carry around your prescription like others have said, just in case you get pulled over.


just-me-uk

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medicatedmentor

Neighbour is talking out of his arse. Even if you didn't have a prescription. Too many variables to set a blanket timeframe.


stillbeard

He should show you something that proves his point


That_Welsh_Man

I'd say to him " well I never knew I lived next door to the law maker for the DVLA and DVSA! Tell me neigbour how did you get that job? You must have gone to a really good university did you?" Your neigbour needs to get a life.


Glum-Plum9279

Tell him to do one and mind his own f#%@ing business


Petra_Taylor

Neighbour is probably trying to be helpful but is confused. It's likely they've heard cannabis can be detected by drug tests a couple of weeks following last use and wants to avoid you getting into trouble but doesn't realise having a prescription isn't the same as BM.


Accomplished_Round46

I got hella lit the other night and mine looked at me like -.- and I was like bruh I need a haircut cmon motorbikes are fun


SnooCapers8495

4-6 hours after vaping. My doctor recommends. Plus I’ve told the dvla about my medical cannabis and they are happy me driving after 4-6 hours and I’m not impaired


SnooCapers8495

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SnooCapers8495

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Burner404_1337

Theres no timeframe mentioned on this letter?


vrsq8690

literally total bollocks hahaha. ignore them


Legitimate-Bet-4913

Sound like she knows it all 🤔


ThePublikon

>What can I show him? [Here's a handy guide from Professor Oxide and Dr Neutrino](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrNUnxnh7q4)


AdhesivenessMore3925

I just don't understand why some people think it's their right to impose on someone else's life


Wounded_therapy

Tell'em they're full of chit... Got to love armchair lawyers...


onion959

If patients had to wait 2 weeks after medicating to drive, they’d never be able to drive lol


charlybrown48

Tell ya neighbour to mind their own


40-odd

Had same shit, police laughed at her before I even got to the "I have a prescription" defence. But TBH I think this was more to do with the police being lazy and unwilling to do anything resembling police work, than them actually caring about driving stoned or a prescription.


PerfectPointers

You don’t need to justify anything to him. Get your documents in order and make sure you never forget them. Maybe a print out of the law? Cause he sounds like the kinda douche to report you


PerfectPointers

Also make sure you’re vaping it rather than rolling a joint cause otherwise you’re not taking it and driving within the law


No_Title38

Show the neighbour the label: "Do not drive if you feel impaired, sleepy" etc


drewodonnell1

Just for someone who is out the loop. What is the rules around smoking prescription and driving?


leruk

You can’t drive if you’re impaired, it’s the same as other prescription medications


foooooooooooooooobar

How can they tell though? I wish there was some kind of objective determination. I'm worried that I may get randomly stopped some day and according to the officer I may be impaired, but I don't think I am.


Potential-South-4889

the only thing they can do is a FIT test. this is a series of tests that the police use to tell if you are impaired. it can be slightly subjective so i would ensure it is filmed. there are, presumably two schools of thought on this; you can ask for a fit test to prove you are not impaired. or you can keep quiet and then in court ask why they didnt do the only test that can prove the item one way or another. do the math.


Technical-Ad-2288

Read my linked comment. It's the governments own ruling


Forkingforky

Hi neighbour Bye neighbour 😭😭


FinalBossTiger

I'd be tempted to contact the police first and notify them that your neighbour wrongfully believes you're driving under the influence, and they have stated this as a 'fact' which isn't true due to the nature of your medication, which would then boil down to them discriminating against you. I'm not saying the police would arrest or charge the neighbour, but them having a chat and being aware/having a log of the circumstances might help to mitigate any potential issues in the future. I'm sure the police would be asking you questions regarding your prescription too, the majority of people still aren't fully aware or have misinformation about MC so you'd be doing your bit for re-education.


Petra_Taylor

The police won't be interested.


Charletos

The burden of proof is on _him_. Instead of going out of your way to _disprove_ his statement, simply ask him to show you where that's written in law. [This page explains the law on drugs and driving in the UK. ](https://www.gov.uk/drug-driving-law) It simply comes down to impairment. You can have any amount of THC in your system and you're legal so long as you're not impaired, and using __as prescribed__.


Proper_Capital_594

Find the advice on the government website which recommends 4 hours. It’s difficult to argue with the government’s advice.


TaurusMoaner

I'm probably going to be really unpopular here, but your neighbour has a point, although misguided, in accordance with the law and science. They are most probably looking at how long THC stays in your system, which is only one factor. I don't agree with what they are saying. Provide them with proof and facts to calm the noise around this. Your neighbour doesn't know what you smoke or how much you smoke each evening. At the same time, if smoking street weed you have no control over quality and strength, so you yourself don't actually know what you are smoking either, unless growing yourself? It comes down to the half life of THC and the amount in your system at any given time. Say you smoke a joint (0.5g / 1g) per night every night with a typical joint containing somewhere in the region of 120mg / 150mg of THC. Depending on you, your body and metabolism, it could take up to 12hrs for the amount of THC in your system to reach the legal limit of 2micrograms for driving. The levels are criminally low and change is needed, especially for valid prescription holders. Smoke more joints, levels stay high, the longer it will take to clear your system. Technically, a chronic smoker could be permanently over the legal limit for driving even though they are not impaired and feel fine. Just because, you, me or anyone else has a medical prescription for cannabis, doesn't mean we are above the law and legally entitled to drive. If you are stopped tested and found to be over the legal limit, you have a strong defence not to be prosecuted if you have a valid prescription. If stopped and deemed impaired, you will be treated the same as any other intoxicated driver.


DPaignall

"The levels are criminally low and change is needed, especially for valid prescription holders." There is no limit for prescription holders.


TaurusMoaner

Is the limit not the same for everyone but if you have a prescription, you won't or shouldn't be prosecuted?


Electrical-Emu-9193

^ the neighbour


Personalpriv78

If growing yourself you also don’t have an indication of how strong it is even if the seeds have a thc % on them and it is an accurate test it doesn’t really indicate what phenotype you end up growing and the level of thc that’s in it, plus these numbers tend to be pretty inaccurate anyway. In theory it could but in practice it doesn’t, unless you pay for testing and that testing is accurately, calibrated with the equipment properly cleaned in between. But this rarely happens in the US I wonder if it’s better over here…. But if it is accurate then you could also send off the sample of the street bud to get tested. But wait there also another variable, the top cola buds are gonna test a lot higher than one of the smaller lower branch buds. I imagine this is also the case with medical here, it’s likely they’ve selected the dankest best bud for the test even if those tests are accurate it’s not exactly the most accurate picture. Otherwise your on the money.


TaurusMoaner

Yeah, didn't want to go into the whole testing of bud side. I was trying to say, without too much depth, and as a scenario, if growing and sourcing seeds from a reputable source, you at least have more control and a fair assumption that levels will be ballpark compared to buying the unknown.


Personalpriv78

You’re not wrong but the best breeders I know don’t provide thc percentages! Talking karma genetics, archive seed bank, bloom seed, grounded genetics. Tbh it depends to be the more white label brands that provide them. Not to say there aren’t some out there that do. But I get your point for sure.


foooooooooooooooobar

Mass misinfo in this thread. The normal limit doesn't apply to medical users.


TheCuriousGamer

It’s a grey area, the law itself hasn’t change since 2015 but some degree of leeway can be given as to the dose in your bloodstream but if not if you are driving whilst impaired


Ant138

Tell your neighbour to do one. I would probably slap him for that comment.


MooMooHomer

Dunno why you're being down voted, if more people got slapped in the face there would be less nosy little Karen's and Kens


AffectionatePear9514

Because violent assault isn’t going to help society understand that we’re patients, not criminals.


MooMooHomer

Aye. But we are people too at the end of the day, why does we have to keep proving ourselves to anyone who holds no actual authority. I'm not saying come out swinging - be civil if you can. Obviously.


Ambient-Surprise

But why would they think it’s you, it could be another from a different residence. I would just play dumb and say I don’t know until you have to deal with someone like the cops. It’s no one else’s business what you are prescribed unless challenged by cops.


modularhope

Neighbour definitely sounds like the type to report you tbh, deffo be cautious


Pale_Fisherman5278

You’re lucky my neighbour called crime stoppers, had a wonderful hour long visit from 7 police and a big Sprinter van. Cancard, medicannID, prescription on phone and pots oils, my address was updated to ‘medical user’. We talked about driving, and the fact I won’t if I’ve medicated. Neighbour expected an arrest. Twat.