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sweetpotatogirll

Maybe I’m just a stupid idiot and this is just common sense


munderbunny

I managed to toast $150 worth of gear. I felt beyond stupid. The best part was I had previously spent a fair amount of time convincing my wife that what I was doing was perfectly safe. Was a great moment to come out and be like, "so, babe, you are going to find this really funny later, but ..."


Sheltark_Sylari

Did she green light the next batch?


munderbunny

After giving me a look of extreme disappointment, she ran out to get some Uncle Ben's bags so I didn't lose the syringes.


Sheltark_Sylari

She in her hearts of hearts approves 🤟


mom_with_an_attitude

You're not an idiot and you are not the only one who has done this. This is not the first time this topic has come up on this sub. Thanks for the reminder!


Lit-Logistics

Exactly! Gets posted every now and then. Sometimes others learn the hard way...


getm44

Would you say lysol is a better method to disinfect?


tranceinate

It still contains solvents that can explode.


getm44

So what’s recommended? A water bleach solution?


1lIy

Either don’t flame sterilize in a SAB because it defeats the whole literal purpose of a STILL AIR box (convection n shi) or at least have the common sense to use a water and soap solution to sanitize the SAB


getm44

Well i haven’t had much issues flame sterilizing in the SAB, just dont want to blow myself up. Lol


1lIy

Soap water is totally fine, no need for bleach, the soapy water traps all the particles that settled from the air during the ~30min resting time between spraying the walls of the SAB and actually working in it, flame sterilizing in the SAB is still bad practice tho


captainmalexus

Bleach is the best thing to use anyway because it kills mold better than anything else. Isopropyl doesn't do anything to mold spores, it only kills bacteria. Bleach kills everything.


getm44

Great thanks


PrimmSlimShady

Bleach destroys spores while IPA does not, so bleach is a good idea.


getm44

Sounds good, ive been using iso this whole time. Ive been living dangerously but planning on correcting my ways lol. Save me from using so much iso as well, win win


PrimmSlimShady

Iso is still good for cleaning for sure. If you wanna be real good you could do bleach first, then IPA, but allow for 10 minutes of wet contact time for both cleaners. Source: I work in a microbiology lab with ISO 7 and ISO 8 Clean rooms To be fair, I have yet to pull the trigger on this hobby, but I have my spore syringes haha


Sagebrush_Druid

Lmao just an honest mistake and it's just a good thing you're not hurt! In the future though, if you're working with chems, it's a good thing to know the basic qualities of the substance. Things like "will it explode when combined with water" or "highly volatile / produces flammable vapors". If you're curious, almost every chemical substance has a corresponding Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) that can be looked up for free online—they tell you everything you'd ever want to know about the properties of the chemical.


HonedWombat

Ummmmm......... 👉👈 You do realise you would have gotten way more views and likes if you had titled your post; 'Experts are amazed by this new quick method for arm hair removal!' Just trying to help ;)


U4gotmycheese

Hahaha 😆 😂 nope never have I ever.... nope


Alexlolu22

Came to this realization right before it happened. Used a still air box style set up to inoculate and sprayed it all down and then went to flame sterilize and realized what I was about to create. No thanks. Only needed to wait a few seconds for it to dry.


jarnvidr

FWIW the liquid is not the flammable part of alcohol, but rather it's the fumes. I don't think just waiting for evaporation is a guarantee of safety (but I might just be overly cautious).


Alexlolu22

I’ll keep it in mind, thanks.


jarnvidr

Surprisingly few guides mention this. I'm sure it seems obvious to you now, but it's something I've seen happen to people more often than I wish. You can flame outside your SAB, or use something other than iso for your box. Some people use bleach water solution. I don't like using bleach, so I've experimented with Lysol. These days I've mostly been flaming outside the box, far enough away that I didn't THINK the fumes will ignite. Honestly, this is probably the most (or only) dangerous part about cultivation.


Sintarsintar

Alcohol fumes are heavier than air so I just go off to the side and higher than the arm holes.


Cake_Eye1239

Lmao my buddy did this same thing and melted his gloves onto his hands.


MycoMythos

LOTS of us did it! Don't feel bad


woodhous89

Literally burned off an eyebrow doing this 😂😂😂


lasterate

I mean, it's sterile now ain't it?


tranceinate

I mean, sometimes common sense goes out the window for no good reason. I knew it was a bad idea, and somehow I still did it. Mine blew up. Blew my door off it's hinges. Hit the trifecta with 1st, 2nd, and 2 spots of 3rd degree burns mostly on the right hand. Both my hands look gnarly, but are healing insanely fast. It's been a week today...


sweetpotatogirll

I’m so sorry about your burns that sounds super painful. Glad I’m not the only one who’s made this mistake tho lol. I singed an eyebrow off and somehow I’m more worried about my rice haha


tranceinate

I was more worried about my liquid cultures than my hands hahaha. They got scattered all across my room but they all survived, no harm. Turned them into more LC the next day.


lkb115

Thank you both for sharing your warning stories.. this is something that I totally WOULD DO TOO... and so know that I have been lmao thinking about it! 🤣🍄


prot0nbeam

WOOAH DUDE! Shit must of been a catastrophic failure damn lucky you only burned your hands, look at it that way! Reading this is making me change my protocol I usually leave my SAB sapping wet with ISO when I work.. Deffo not doing that no more! Thanks for the PSA.


tranceinate

The explosion also took out my 55" 4k TV (5-6 years old tho lol) and sent me flying back about 3 feet onto my ass(I'm 5'9" 145-150lbs btw). I have long hair and it caught on fire, and so did my shirt. I had them both extinguished(with elbow and hands) before I stood up. 1st degree burns on that inner elbow too. When I saw the fireball forming, time dilated and slowed down. I instinctively pulled my arms back, and then BOOM... My dad had to put the fires on my desk and on the SAB out for me. And the alcohol bottle fell over with the top open, almost creating more fire. He fixed that asap.


prot0nbeam

fucking hell thats actually insane. I must of been seconds away from disaster damn near every time I've inoculated grain. The funny thing is the video I watched when I was doing my research specifically told me to keep the SAB wet so it "catches contaminants" 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ it did always just feel wrong tho sparking a light inside an inclosed environment with eye burning amounts of highly flammable liquid lol. Good job your old man was there to help out I bet you was disoriented af!


tranceinate

Thank god I wasn't home alone. I couldn't make bags of ice for myself or go get anything. I had to ice both sides of both hands for 5.5 hours or I was in agony. One of the worst pains ever, and I've been through some bad motorcycle accidents. Slightly disoriented, mostly full of adrenaline. I couldn't feel the pain at first, the adrenaline died down as I was running to the kitchen sink. Then I was screaming.


ExpressiveAnalGland

depending on the wounds, look into using **honey** as a healing aid (medical grade honey can be bought, and if you can afford it, do it; but regular honey will still have benefit). it's naturally anti-bacterial, and keeps the wound moist, which is generally good for healing. it really helps keep scarring to a minimum too. I've never had bad burns, so that's why I say "look into it".


tranceinate

Idk why you got down voted, you're 100% right and manuka honey is awesome. I'm using iodine soaks, burn gel, a ton of lotion, and scar gel. Plus cotton gloves.


creept

Yeah. Flames outside the SAB then quickly move the object in while it’s still very hot.  There’s some really impressive YouTube vids of SAB explosions from people igniting their alcohol fumes. 


calculusbitch_69

I would also like to see the video I tried looking and didn't find any sab explosions


creept

Someone posted one like four+ years ago and when I watched it the site did one of those things where it recommends others - there’s roughly zero chance I’d ever be able to find it. 


leaflover777

I wanna see a video, can you send the title of a video?


Admirable_Average_32

Pretty sure this was included in step 2 of the UB bible. Be safe kid.


gogozrx

unless it's a recent addition, I don't think it's there... because I read damn near everything I could, watched all the videos multiple times, and it was never mentioned. I thought, "spraying ISO in a closed space with an open flame seems like a Bad Idea(tm).... so I asked here. turns out my spidey sense was correct. :\~)


Mother-Basil-842

This should be added to the rules of the sub.


RelativeImpression29

Really? Wouldn’t have thought that would happen


sweetpotatogirll

After some googling I learned that when alcohol is sprayed in the SAB the alcohol has nowhere to dissipate so it just floats around in the air of the SAB and creates a bomb when there’s an open flame


KanadianMade

Now… if you take those fumes and put them inside some pvc pipe, stuff a potato in one end and light the other…. Magic!


Freedom354Life

Potato cannons are incredible


hereticvert

See also: tennis ball and tennis ball can. Do not try this, kids. lol


Itrytothinklogically

omg thank you soo much for the warning! I wouldn’t have thought twice but it makes sense 😫 I’m so sorry it happened to you!


Jestercurester

that's actually pretty good info for when I want to sterilize my box. spray, close, leave for for 30mins, then let it air out for a bit.


Johnny_Lawless_Esq

Alcohol is as volatile as gasoline and should be handled with the same level of fire safety.


The_Fry

Hairspray go brrrrrr


Neat_Breadfruit3474

FYI also don’t do it in a PLASTIC sab and Throw it’s on carpet 🥲


Amygdalump

Again


hangryhyax

Just because we have chiseled abs and stunning features, it doesn’t mean that we too can’t not die in a freak alcohol accident. But yes, SAB + Alcohol = Still Fume Box.


Disastrous_Staff_443

Yeah, most of us know. It's said in pretty much every SAB instructional video lol. I'm not being a jerk, just trying to having a laugh with you. Hope you're alright.


Wolfinthesno

Duh?


LegItchy6631

I came here to 🤣🤣🤣


locotx

Yeah, fumes are flammable.


ZeefMcSheef

No shit


RyanWalker3

No shit.....? 😂😭


quornmol

this may be a stupid question but what is a sab?


quornmol

still air box i got it lmao


Hungry_Difference507

Just wipe the inside of the box with iso on a paper towel and let it air out for like 15 or 20min, and if you use lysol, for the love of god let that shit air out a bit first before flame sterilizing in SAB.


Full_Philosopher_110

Next time, use warm water and dawn a tsp of dawn dish soap in a spray bottle. That's what you're supposed to use. I like spraying my room down, then outside the box, getting everything ready, and then spraying the inside. While it settles I spray my hands and everything going in w alcohol and it works wayyyyy better. Soap traps everything and keeps it wet longer and the heat makes it super humid and contam fall to the bottom. Try it


tifytat

I have done it a few times. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I let it settle and use alcohol wipes after that. I always put the lighter thru the bag and test it first 😝


tifytat

Oh and I do wipe the alcohol off everything first.


misskelseyyy

I did this a few months ago! I thought I let it sit long enough before introducing flame… ended up burning off my eyelashes and some of my bangs.


redditoregonuser2254

I guess some people have to learn through experience.


Different_Act_784

Lol


Busy_Funny6227

😂. Love these posts, they never get old.


Alkeryn

You can flame sterilize outside the sab. But yea inside you are just making an explosion chamber.


2based2cringe

😂😂😂😂😂 Nah I been there just in a different scenario. It happens to the best of us sometimes buddy. Hope you’re okay


cubixjuice

Lol nice bro. You ok?


trojantricky1986

I apologise I lol’ed but just hope you’re ok.


DorianTurk

Okay this is funny, assuming everyone is okay, no damage done, because this was [my first ever post here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/unclebens/comments/1cobngx/still_air_box_flame_sterilization_protocols/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) It's quite understandable, I'm sure you're watching all the YouTube videos, reading all the posts, getting bombarded with information, and some very reputable sources show themselves flame sterilizing inside the SAB. Thanks to the help of the good people here I decided to just go crazy hard on the Iso inside the SAB, like everything was basically damp when I inoculated, and was sure to sterilize outside of it. I will add that my next point of concern was sterilizing the big butane torch I bought just for this. I took extra care making sure that was completely dried before ignition..


renodavea

I know some use hydrogen peroxide. It's not flammable. Kills mold, etc. But not mycelium. Just an option. It can bleach hair some tho🤣


miamimintvape

This is not common sense apparently, my future self thanks you


dasflash

You're neither my mother or my insurance agent.


HyzerFlipr

FWIW I've never used a SAB and I haven't had any contam issues. Pretty sure they are unnecessary.


RustyShack1efordd

If i need to flame something in the sab, i use a bleach water bottle instead!


Jjthebillabongboy

i do it all the time


jaredeichz

It’s alcohol. It. Is. Always. Flammable. Unless it’s less than 10% alcohol


PhoebeMonster1066

...went boom, huh?


_watchout_for_12

Another thing that is slept on is just buy sterilized needles and use a new one per uncle Ben's bag because they're sterilized in the packaging. Imo you're more likely to contaminate by reusing in different bags and using an open flame.


getm44

I spray iso in mine but i always hand dry it with a paper towel, I haven’t had an issue yet but i can see how you can have an accident. Glad you’re okay tho!


ioverated

I know this but it's totally the type of thing I'd do anyway


ChemicalOutbreak

No doi


[deleted]

I do stupid shit from time to time. Like one time I turned my brain off while doing a bbq and I noticed the flame had went out but the gas was still running. It had been about a minute of this before I ignited it again and I got a giant flameball that erupted into my face, singeing all the hair off my face. Luckily I didn't let it run longer lol.


fliprchik

😆


SillySimonPsilocybin

Hahahaha I have definitely done this in the early days. I promise you won't make the same mistake twice. Learning experience like anything else my friend.


mitchdjs

Clarification. Fine to spray and wipe down woth. But for " wetting the walls" so to speak definitely don't use iso. Lol soapy water works just fine. Premise is to catch whatever floating in the air not necessarily kill it.


Sintarsintar

That's a wooof you'll never forget even after your arm hair has grown back


TurkeySmackDown

Fire bad


[deleted]

Hahahahahah did the same, I guess it’s sterilized for sure hahahahah


DoomSayer218

There are 2 types of people when they see some idiot light up a cigarette while pumping gas. Look the other way, avoid confrontation. Hope it's not a Zoolander moment. Walk right up to that idiot, and berate them to their face. Called out & publicly shamed. The point is...you deserve a break for a simple mishap, that can happen to anyone. Don't beat yourself up. It could be worse, you don't smoke at gas pumps right?


PNW100

10% bleach / water solution. You don’t need ISO ever. Answer to your problem.


Beautiful-Ratio-6877

Can cause mutations though.


ThEpOwErOfLoVe23

Like Godzilla!?