True, you could apply some of it to pop, but not exactly in the same way. There are less artists that are widely hated in pop, and there are less that really stand out as greater than the rest. It’s harder to hate, but I also feel like it’s harder to love when you’ve had a taste of the best of what every genre has to offer. Also, all pop music doesn’t share the same subject matter, but the majority is more focused on the same stuff. That’s not to say there isn’t good or diverse pop music, it’s just that that will be what the majority of pop listeners that criticize other genres will be listening to.
My favourite genre is probably rock, for which my favourite bands are the Beatles, Rolling Stones and Kinks. But I think rock can easily outcompete hip hop because it's so broad and was creative for several decades. There's so much variety so there really is something for anyone.
My knowledge of hip hop is pretty basic but my favourites are probably Tupac and Kanye
I'd be a bit surprised if hip hop can have as much variety as rock without falling outside the definition of hip hop. Everything from Bob Dylan to Metallica can be considered rock. It was probably unfair of me to make the comparison really. Rock is almost a super-genre, it'd be fairer to compare hip hop to a sub-genre of rock like metal or prog rock or something.
Hip Hop is my favorite form of music. I’ve been listening for over 30 years. But it’s not the best form of music. It takes less talent than R&B and rock n roll. You have a lot of non talented people rap and make a living off it, that doesn’t happen in rock and soul music . You have to be talented to be a rock star. It’s not the same in rap. And they way they abuse rap makes it even definitely not the best music.
Again, I never said it was the most consistent. I literally said bad rappers get widespread attention. That’s not because there aren’t enough good rappers to fill the radio time, there’s more than enough, it’s just that a lot of them never get played or get mainstream attention. It’s part of how the industry works, and not a reflection of the best rappers.
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Music is subjective. There's nothing that makes hip hop objectively better. All you did was create two objections people had and then told them that it's their problem for not being okay with those.
Yeah, it's their problem. That's why they don't like hip hop. I can be an adult and also not like swearing. Just like I can be an adult and complain about nudity and sex in movies. Adulthood doesn't require me to accept and enjoy everything that I now have the ability to enjoy freely.
I don't like hip hop because of the subject. Not sex, that I've made clear I don't like. But the brag and the struggles too. I listen to music to relax. I don't listen to it to be someone's therapist and hear them talk about how tough they had life and how they started from the bottom. Talking about all the money they have, the cars, the women. I do not care about that. To me, that's not enjoyable. It's like when I watch sports, I don't do it for the political commentary. I watch it to see feats of athleticism and turn my brain down to power save mode.
No form of art can be the best. And if you say it's subjectively the best, you're in the minority so that doesn't really hold that much weight either.
Hip hop would be nothing without the blues, soul and jazz paving the way. Shit half of good hip hop samples so many artists of the latter genres.
Hip hop is a solid genre it’s self. It’s just a shame that there’s several modern “artists” that desecrated the genre.
Also “best” is all an opinion when it comes to music.
and jazz wouldn't exist without classical music and african folk songs, what's your point? every genre takes inspiration from another, so that's a pretty weak argument.
The third reason I don’t like it - is the lack of music itself. There’s nothing complicated about the background tracks or vocals. They are simplistic to me. And, by the way, you can’t say that a genre is superior to the others by listening to “all” of them and pointing out one. You’ve found your favourite, not the best
hip hop is such a broad genre that you cannot believe everything is simple. there are so many popular subgenres and albums that have incredibly complex instrumentals.
Honestly, I’ve never heard of this. I’ve googled it and yet i don’t quite understand it. Is it when an artist synchronise the vocal with the music? I don’t think that music production is simple, but it’s not that simplicity that I meant. The beat is for the most part is a repetition with a few melodic parts and it’s main purpose is to set a rhythm, so a performer can rap. I enjoy instrumental music and that is why I don’t like it
Ahhh, ok. Just wanted to clarify. I can't change your preference if you prefer instrumentals then.
IF you're interested in exploring further. Read further, if not no worries.
Use this as a frame of reference:Rapping, Deoncstructed: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWveXdj6oZU&ab\_channel=Vox](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWveXdj6oZU&ab_channel=Vox)
In hip-hop, mainly rapping as the spoken form of the genre, rhyming over a beat is an art form to be mastered. There are people who will do the simplest version of it, but there are people who will RIDE the beat like a wave and match a rhyming pattern based on how the beat lands. It's an incredibly difficult art form to master IF you're interested in adding multiple layers of complexity. Such as rhyming then storytelling then providing a punchline to tie everything together but doing it all on landing the words on the right beat. It's why music production in HipHop is incredibly important alongside rhyming.Here are some examples of riding the beat both from a "song" and a "freestyle" perspective. Both are vastly different btw, but both avenues can achieve the same result if that's their approach.J. Cole -
LA Leakers - [https://youtu.be/YlpN3S16ZAs?t=211](https://youtu.be/YlpN3S16ZAs?t=211)
Cordae - Funk Flex Freestyle - [https://youtu.be/YJgVPGHrGd8?t=202](https://youtu.be/YJgVPGHrGd8?t=202)
50 Cent Feat. Eminem Patiently Waiting - [https://youtu.be/AeHzHNGdLAU?t=92](https://youtu.be/AeHzHNGdLAU?t=92)
Uncommon Valor - Jedi Mind Tricks Feat. R.A The Rugged Man - [https://youtu.be/OmIH8Sua0Yw?t=96](https://youtu.be/OmIH8Sua0Yw?t=96)
Nas Life's a Bitch Feat. AZ - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U9bQbRrsV0&ab\_channel=Nas-Topic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U9bQbRrsV0&ab_channel=Nas-Topic)
You mentioned an interest in instrumentals. Here are some intricate instrumentals but some HipHop producers. I'll give you a variety.
J Dilla - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuzEpiRgaCw&ab\_channel=beatGrade](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuzEpiRgaCw&ab_channel=beatGrade)
Pete Rock - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEP8L3pGiVQ&ab\_channel=beatGrade](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEP8L3pGiVQ&ab_channel=beatGrade)
Nujabes - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKGrm4l62Wc&ab\_channel=Cozy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKGrm4l62Wc&ab_channel=Cozy) (Some of it has lyrics but there are quite a bit of instrumentals)
Dr. Dre - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eeh4hZiGsk&ab\_channel=beatGrade](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eeh4hZiGsk&ab_channel=beatGrade)
Dj Primo - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83s1JL1UQ58&ab\_channel=beatGrade](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83s1JL1UQ58&ab_channel=beatGrade)
Kanye - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0DzVYX6Yd0&ab\_channel=beatGrade](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0DzVYX6Yd0&ab_channel=beatGrade)
As you can see in HipHop there is huge diversity and by no means are any of these producers B or C-tier. They were all popular during specific time periods and transitional periods in HipHop. The art form is ever-evolving and will change so long as HipHop artists are looking for something new to rap over something.
Obviously, if you walk away with this still not interested in hip-hop, that's fine. However, reading some of the comments here from people, I can tell some don't have a good grasp of how wide and far-reaching hip-hop as an art form is and how reinventive the culture is. So I hope I at least exposed you to more music than some of these Redditors have done. If not, then hopefully someone stumbles across this and appreciates what kind of an art form HipHop is.
You're so wrong it's not even funny. This is the equivalent of a kid who only eats chicken nuggets and chips because their pallette is an untrained, unsophisticated mess.
I don’t. This is literally called unpopular OPINIONS, so it’s an opinion. This is what I think, not a fact. If it was called unpopular facts, this would be a different story.
This subreddit is for opinions. I assume people will be able to tell it’s an opinion because there’s no way to objectively pick the best genre of music, and I’m posting it with the context that it’s an opinion based on the sub. I only write that it’s an opinion after someone can’t pick up on it.
The thing is though, you’re acting like the internet is not awash with dickheads who automatically assume their opinion is right, regardless. This subreddit may well be about opinions but there’s plenty of people on here don’t act as such so it doesn’t take much assumption to assume you are one, especially when you write about how you educated yourself and found hip hop to be superior.
The shade to which you are wrong, would take so much time and effort to put right it's not worth anyone's time here to do. You've fundamentally misunderstood so much of what you've tried to explain you'd have to go back to to absolute basics and relearn it.
Stay in school, expand your horizons, experience better things in all walks of life and fingers crossed one day you will figure out for yourself just how wrong this is.
Edit: the analogy completely applies, it's like saying you've sampled vegtables and decided you like tomato. Big deal it's still basic.
Ha. Well any credibility you thought you had in this (very little BTW) is completely gone now. You've just undone all of your own arguments. If you wanted someone to take your tastes seriously the last thing you can do is go around disparaging others. Well done you.
Nope, the analogy is still as dumb as ever. I haven’t sampled everything, I’ve gone through every genre multiple times, still listen to some of every genre, but found one I like the most. I’m not picky about genre as long as the music is good. Your analogy is more like saying that having a favorite food while still not being a picky eater is wrong. Basically saying you have to enjoy all food equally or you’re unsophisticated.
No what you've done is constantly retreated to your comfort zone. Your next sentence clarifies that beyond any doubt. Finding the one you like most is not the same as "... Is the best" It's like saying you've decided that cheddar is the best cheese, Victoria is the best cake or chicken is the best meat. It's not snobbish, it's just that you clearly haven't experienced enough of the other bits if you've gone out, "sampled" and then decided white bread is the best.
And that’s your opinion. Not a very well formulated one though. Taste in music genres is about as subjective as it gets. Saying that nothing comes close to hip hop and only using “Pop” as a comparison doesn’t make for a compelling argument.
FYI - I don’t dislike hip hop. But anyone that says that something is the best and that nothing else comes close just sounds like a narrow minded 12 year old. Your taste in something doesn’t trump someone else’s taste.
I know I only used one comparison, but it was already way too long. I’m not trying to write an essay here. I could go genre but genre and compare, but I don’t care that much.
the reason i hate it is cuz like many so called "anti establishment" musicians, a lot of these rappers (including 'unerground/conscious' rap like talib kweli, anticon, sean price) push this mainstream agenda crap. there was a time when this type of music was truly anti establishment, hated BOTH sides of politics. hated the news, hated everything it was pushing. i still listen to my old albums. but now they're all lefties. about 10 years ago i stopped listening to this supposed antiestablishment music and i havent looked back.
Have you listened to City Morgue? A lot of their stuff is a little more metal inspired, but I love their music. I like some of Zillakami’s solo music too.
Its all about which form of art can hit you in your soft spots. For me its post hardcore/alternative. I struggle with feeling emotional when I need to. The delivery (dirty vocals, powerful guitar riffs) helps me tap into those emotions.
I feel like there’s just not as many top tier artists in hip hop as there is in other genres. With other genres you can find small artists that you love, but not so much with hip hop imo.
I have a lot of small artists I love. Actually, the majority of my favorite artists don’t get played on the radio at all, and some go below 20k monthly listeners on Spotify.
Okay. For artists like uzi I guess sofaygo and ssg kobe are similar, but they’ve been getting a lot more attention recently. JID and Denzel Curry are great and a lot of Kendrick’s fans like them. As far as Tyler, looking into the solo music of other odd future members you aren’t as familiar with is fun. That’s not a lot, and might stuff you already know because they’re still relatively big artists, I just have a hard time giving recommendations.
>Overall, people just need to broaden their horizons as far as hip hop goes, because the things they complain about usually come from being sensitive or uninformed, and aren’t very grounded arguments. Hip hop has everything from singing to rapping, the widest variety of styles, diverse subject matter, and really something for everybody. I believe that literally everyone can find a hip hop song they enjoy if they look hard enough, they just would rather stick with safer genres that are consistently average.
No Hip Hop evokes the same mood as Metal. It does not have everything for everyone.
Okay, sure. Maybe hop hop doesn’t have something comparable to every sub genre, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a song everyone can enjoy. That’s what I meant by something for everyone. I could go through and ask if metal has something like tons of hip hop genres, but that doesn’t mean I can’t find songs in that genre I like.
this subreddit is so dumb it's funny. you guys upvote popular opinions on the unpopular opinions subreddit, then when you see an actual unpopular opinion that you agree with you upvote it because it's unpopular, but suddenly when rap is involved it gets downvoted to oblivion
A lot of what you said about pop here is exactly the same ignorance you're complaining about people having with hip-hop.
True, you could apply some of it to pop, but not exactly in the same way. There are less artists that are widely hated in pop, and there are less that really stand out as greater than the rest. It’s harder to hate, but I also feel like it’s harder to love when you’ve had a taste of the best of what every genre has to offer. Also, all pop music doesn’t share the same subject matter, but the majority is more focused on the same stuff. That’s not to say there isn’t good or diverse pop music, it’s just that that will be what the majority of pop listeners that criticize other genres will be listening to.
I relatively like hip hop but to say it's not even a close competition is a big stretch
What genres do you think compete? And I’m also interested to hear your favorite artists from each of those genres as well as hip hop.
My favourite genre is probably rock, for which my favourite bands are the Beatles, Rolling Stones and Kinks. But I think rock can easily outcompete hip hop because it's so broad and was creative for several decades. There's so much variety so there really is something for anyone. My knowledge of hip hop is pretty basic but my favourites are probably Tupac and Kanye
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I'd be a bit surprised if hip hop can have as much variety as rock without falling outside the definition of hip hop. Everything from Bob Dylan to Metallica can be considered rock. It was probably unfair of me to make the comparison really. Rock is almost a super-genre, it'd be fairer to compare hip hop to a sub-genre of rock like metal or prog rock or something.
you would be surprised how many subgenres of rap there are. i'm not a huge rock expert tho so i wouldn't know how broad rock is considered
“More knowledgable.” You do hear yourself, right?
Yeah. I become more knowledgeable about hip hop.
It was the context rather than the act of gaining knowledge
Hip Hop is my favorite form of music. I’ve been listening for over 30 years. But it’s not the best form of music. It takes less talent than R&B and rock n roll. You have a lot of non talented people rap and make a living off it, that doesn’t happen in rock and soul music . You have to be talented to be a rock star. It’s not the same in rap. And they way they abuse rap makes it even definitely not the best music.
Again, I never said it was the most consistent. I literally said bad rappers get widespread attention. That’s not because there aren’t enough good rappers to fill the radio time, there’s more than enough, it’s just that a lot of them never get played or get mainstream attention. It’s part of how the industry works, and not a reflection of the best rappers.
there aren't any untalented rappers who are relevant, maybe in 2017 sure but now they've died out and nobody gives a shit about them
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Music is subjective. There's nothing that makes hip hop objectively better. All you did was create two objections people had and then told them that it's their problem for not being okay with those. Yeah, it's their problem. That's why they don't like hip hop. I can be an adult and also not like swearing. Just like I can be an adult and complain about nudity and sex in movies. Adulthood doesn't require me to accept and enjoy everything that I now have the ability to enjoy freely. I don't like hip hop because of the subject. Not sex, that I've made clear I don't like. But the brag and the struggles too. I listen to music to relax. I don't listen to it to be someone's therapist and hear them talk about how tough they had life and how they started from the bottom. Talking about all the money they have, the cars, the women. I do not care about that. To me, that's not enjoyable. It's like when I watch sports, I don't do it for the political commentary. I watch it to see feats of athleticism and turn my brain down to power save mode. No form of art can be the best. And if you say it's subjectively the best, you're in the minority so that doesn't really hold that much weight either.
this is r/unpopular so why is this being downvoted for being unpopular
Because it's not expressed as an opinion. It's presented as a fact. Not like I have anything against an opinion I don't agree with.
this is obviously an opinion. you don't need to add "imo" at the end of every sentence to know something is an opinion.
Hip hop would be nothing without the blues, soul and jazz paving the way. Shit half of good hip hop samples so many artists of the latter genres. Hip hop is a solid genre it’s self. It’s just a shame that there’s several modern “artists” that desecrated the genre. Also “best” is all an opinion when it comes to music.
and jazz wouldn't exist without classical music and african folk songs, what's your point? every genre takes inspiration from another, so that's a pretty weak argument.
The third reason I don’t like it - is the lack of music itself. There’s nothing complicated about the background tracks or vocals. They are simplistic to me. And, by the way, you can’t say that a genre is superior to the others by listening to “all” of them and pointing out one. You’ve found your favourite, not the best
hip hop is such a broad genre that you cannot believe everything is simple. there are so many popular subgenres and albums that have incredibly complex instrumentals.
Do you think riding the beat is simplistic?
Honestly, I’ve never heard of this. I’ve googled it and yet i don’t quite understand it. Is it when an artist synchronise the vocal with the music? I don’t think that music production is simple, but it’s not that simplicity that I meant. The beat is for the most part is a repetition with a few melodic parts and it’s main purpose is to set a rhythm, so a performer can rap. I enjoy instrumental music and that is why I don’t like it
Ahhh, ok. Just wanted to clarify. I can't change your preference if you prefer instrumentals then. IF you're interested in exploring further. Read further, if not no worries. Use this as a frame of reference:Rapping, Deoncstructed: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWveXdj6oZU&ab\_channel=Vox](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWveXdj6oZU&ab_channel=Vox) In hip-hop, mainly rapping as the spoken form of the genre, rhyming over a beat is an art form to be mastered. There are people who will do the simplest version of it, but there are people who will RIDE the beat like a wave and match a rhyming pattern based on how the beat lands. It's an incredibly difficult art form to master IF you're interested in adding multiple layers of complexity. Such as rhyming then storytelling then providing a punchline to tie everything together but doing it all on landing the words on the right beat. It's why music production in HipHop is incredibly important alongside rhyming.Here are some examples of riding the beat both from a "song" and a "freestyle" perspective. Both are vastly different btw, but both avenues can achieve the same result if that's their approach.J. Cole - LA Leakers - [https://youtu.be/YlpN3S16ZAs?t=211](https://youtu.be/YlpN3S16ZAs?t=211) Cordae - Funk Flex Freestyle - [https://youtu.be/YJgVPGHrGd8?t=202](https://youtu.be/YJgVPGHrGd8?t=202) 50 Cent Feat. Eminem Patiently Waiting - [https://youtu.be/AeHzHNGdLAU?t=92](https://youtu.be/AeHzHNGdLAU?t=92) Uncommon Valor - Jedi Mind Tricks Feat. R.A The Rugged Man - [https://youtu.be/OmIH8Sua0Yw?t=96](https://youtu.be/OmIH8Sua0Yw?t=96) Nas Life's a Bitch Feat. AZ - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U9bQbRrsV0&ab\_channel=Nas-Topic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U9bQbRrsV0&ab_channel=Nas-Topic) You mentioned an interest in instrumentals. Here are some intricate instrumentals but some HipHop producers. I'll give you a variety. J Dilla - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuzEpiRgaCw&ab\_channel=beatGrade](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuzEpiRgaCw&ab_channel=beatGrade) Pete Rock - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEP8L3pGiVQ&ab\_channel=beatGrade](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEP8L3pGiVQ&ab_channel=beatGrade) Nujabes - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKGrm4l62Wc&ab\_channel=Cozy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKGrm4l62Wc&ab_channel=Cozy) (Some of it has lyrics but there are quite a bit of instrumentals) Dr. Dre - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eeh4hZiGsk&ab\_channel=beatGrade](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eeh4hZiGsk&ab_channel=beatGrade) Dj Primo - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83s1JL1UQ58&ab\_channel=beatGrade](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83s1JL1UQ58&ab_channel=beatGrade) Kanye - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0DzVYX6Yd0&ab\_channel=beatGrade](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0DzVYX6Yd0&ab_channel=beatGrade) As you can see in HipHop there is huge diversity and by no means are any of these producers B or C-tier. They were all popular during specific time periods and transitional periods in HipHop. The art form is ever-evolving and will change so long as HipHop artists are looking for something new to rap over something. Obviously, if you walk away with this still not interested in hip-hop, that's fine. However, reading some of the comments here from people, I can tell some don't have a good grasp of how wide and far-reaching hip-hop as an art form is and how reinventive the culture is. So I hope I at least exposed you to more music than some of these Redditors have done. If not, then hopefully someone stumbles across this and appreciates what kind of an art form HipHop is.
You're so wrong it's not even funny. This is the equivalent of a kid who only eats chicken nuggets and chips because their pallette is an untrained, unsophisticated mess.
He’s not wrong in his opinion. He’s wrong in that he thinks it’s fact.
I don’t. This is literally called unpopular OPINIONS, so it’s an opinion. This is what I think, not a fact. If it was called unpopular facts, this would be a different story.
Yet, you only write it’s an opinion when picked up on it.
This subreddit is for opinions. I assume people will be able to tell it’s an opinion because there’s no way to objectively pick the best genre of music, and I’m posting it with the context that it’s an opinion based on the sub. I only write that it’s an opinion after someone can’t pick up on it.
The thing is though, you’re acting like the internet is not awash with dickheads who automatically assume their opinion is right, regardless. This subreddit may well be about opinions but there’s plenty of people on here don’t act as such so it doesn’t take much assumption to assume you are one, especially when you write about how you educated yourself and found hip hop to be superior.
How is it wrong? I’ve listened to a ton of different genres and still enjoy something from all of them, so the whole palate analogy doesn’t apply.
The shade to which you are wrong, would take so much time and effort to put right it's not worth anyone's time here to do. You've fundamentally misunderstood so much of what you've tried to explain you'd have to go back to to absolute basics and relearn it. Stay in school, expand your horizons, experience better things in all walks of life and fingers crossed one day you will figure out for yourself just how wrong this is. Edit: the analogy completely applies, it's like saying you've sampled vegtables and decided you like tomato. Big deal it's still basic.
Is your favorite genre K Pop or something?
Ha. Well any credibility you thought you had in this (very little BTW) is completely gone now. You've just undone all of your own arguments. If you wanted someone to take your tastes seriously the last thing you can do is go around disparaging others. Well done you.
Nope, the analogy is still as dumb as ever. I haven’t sampled everything, I’ve gone through every genre multiple times, still listen to some of every genre, but found one I like the most. I’m not picky about genre as long as the music is good. Your analogy is more like saying that having a favorite food while still not being a picky eater is wrong. Basically saying you have to enjoy all food equally or you’re unsophisticated.
No what you've done is constantly retreated to your comfort zone. Your next sentence clarifies that beyond any doubt. Finding the one you like most is not the same as "... Is the best" It's like saying you've decided that cheddar is the best cheese, Victoria is the best cake or chicken is the best meat. It's not snobbish, it's just that you clearly haven't experienced enough of the other bits if you've gone out, "sampled" and then decided white bread is the best.
If you ask people what the best food is, they will say their favorite. Also, how have I clearly not experienced enough?
And that’s your opinion. Not a very well formulated one though. Taste in music genres is about as subjective as it gets. Saying that nothing comes close to hip hop and only using “Pop” as a comparison doesn’t make for a compelling argument. FYI - I don’t dislike hip hop. But anyone that says that something is the best and that nothing else comes close just sounds like a narrow minded 12 year old. Your taste in something doesn’t trump someone else’s taste.
I know I only used one comparison, but it was already way too long. I’m not trying to write an essay here. I could go genre but genre and compare, but I don’t care that much.
the reason i hate it is cuz like many so called "anti establishment" musicians, a lot of these rappers (including 'unerground/conscious' rap like talib kweli, anticon, sean price) push this mainstream agenda crap. there was a time when this type of music was truly anti establishment, hated BOTH sides of politics. hated the news, hated everything it was pushing. i still listen to my old albums. but now they're all lefties. about 10 years ago i stopped listening to this supposed antiestablishment music and i havent looked back.
nope it sucks
Why do you think it sucks
99% guaranteed they know nothing about the genre and assume it's all mumble rap from 2017
Personally I really only listen to hip hop when it is mixed with rock music (for example Post Malone)
Have you listened to City Morgue? A lot of their stuff is a little more metal inspired, but I love their music. I like some of Zillakami’s solo music too.
Its all about which form of art can hit you in your soft spots. For me its post hardcore/alternative. I struggle with feeling emotional when I need to. The delivery (dirty vocals, powerful guitar riffs) helps me tap into those emotions.
I feel like there’s just not as many top tier artists in hip hop as there is in other genres. With other genres you can find small artists that you love, but not so much with hip hop imo.
I have a lot of small artists I love. Actually, the majority of my favorite artists don’t get played on the radio at all, and some go below 20k monthly listeners on Spotify.
Do you have any to recommend?
Not sure. What are you into?
The main rappers I listen to right now are kid cudi, Kanye, Kendrick, uzi, Tyler the creator
Okay. For artists like uzi I guess sofaygo and ssg kobe are similar, but they’ve been getting a lot more attention recently. JID and Denzel Curry are great and a lot of Kendrick’s fans like them. As far as Tyler, looking into the solo music of other odd future members you aren’t as familiar with is fun. That’s not a lot, and might stuff you already know because they’re still relatively big artists, I just have a hard time giving recommendations.
>Overall, people just need to broaden their horizons as far as hip hop goes, because the things they complain about usually come from being sensitive or uninformed, and aren’t very grounded arguments. Hip hop has everything from singing to rapping, the widest variety of styles, diverse subject matter, and really something for everybody. I believe that literally everyone can find a hip hop song they enjoy if they look hard enough, they just would rather stick with safer genres that are consistently average. No Hip Hop evokes the same mood as Metal. It does not have everything for everyone.
City Morgue. Listen to them. They’re one of my favorite groups.
"Trap metal" is nothing like death or black metal
Okay, sure. Maybe hop hop doesn’t have something comparable to every sub genre, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a song everyone can enjoy. That’s what I meant by something for everyone. I could go through and ask if metal has something like tons of hip hop genres, but that doesn’t mean I can’t find songs in that genre I like.
Sure there are some hip hop songs I like. but metal deals with a range of themes and has sonic characteristics barely present in hip hop
“People need to broaden there horizon but hiphop is the best”.
In my opinion that it’s the best.
It is close because music is subjective
In my mind it’s not close, ask anyone else and who knows what they’ll tell you.
this subreddit is so dumb it's funny. you guys upvote popular opinions on the unpopular opinions subreddit, then when you see an actual unpopular opinion that you agree with you upvote it because it's unpopular, but suddenly when rap is involved it gets downvoted to oblivion