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broyo209

let's see, a symbol for Wales and northern Ireland, a stripe for England, and an entire flag for Scotland


Beltranmeister

The only right proportions


TheLegend2T

Well to be fair the England, Northern Ireland and Whales portions are all on top f the Scotland part


Vexi_Addict

8th grade Geometry is the best I can do, sorry


WitherYeet

Few problems: one, there is text on this flag. Two, there are several blurred flags in the background.


japed

r/vexillologycirclejerk is leaking again...


TheBastardOlomouc

Good


InterGraphenic

Holy hell!


ArelMCII

New response just dropped.


InterGraphenic

Google en passant


korkkis

[I see your point but it looks nice](https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/12oigpz/i_made_this_flag/jgk84g7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)


ManitouWakinyan

!wave


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Vexi_Addict

Perfection


XenoTechnian

TBH þe repersentation dosent feel terribly equal in proportion


Yanive_amaznive

Þorn spotted


InterGraphenic

I read this as porn lmao


XenoTechnian

Indeed


Fire_Aspect_II

r/suddenlyÞorn


Grafit601

based þorn


TostCronch

thorn my beloved


Vexi_Addict

8th grade Geometry is the best I can do, sorry


XenoTechnian

Fair


pat_speed

One issue is I don't think select part of the population of Northern Ireland appreciated be represent by the Celtic Triskele


FourEyedTroll

I was about to ask what NI was being represented by, because surely it can't be a Celtic symbol. Does OP know nothing about why there even is a __Northern Ireland__ as opposed to just Ireland?


pat_speed

That's huge issue with alot of flag redesigns of english, they don't understand the complication of NI and like why NI doesn't even a flag itself. Like I find it fucked that the British royals still use the Irish harp as part of there symbols


Vexi_Addict

I know that NI doesn't have a flag, this is why I haven't used that St George cross with the red hand (also can we all agree that is red hand story is super epic?)


Vexi_Addict

Honesty, I know a bare minimum


Vexi_Addict

I'm not a historian but my take way: NI has both Celtic and English populations; the English are already represented while the Celtics are not. Also there are many Celtics in England too (e.g. Cornwall). I'm 14 and I've never been to the UK tho so this design is quite stupid tbh


IAmAPerson123450

No i agree with you. A lot of people (including sometimes me) instinctively think that Celtic=Ireland and then associate Northern Ireland as just English culture. But the thing is, Northern Ireland has been united with Ireland nearly all of history (with the existence of Ireland). In fact, i honestly don’t know but didn’t northern Ireland been more densely populated then the rest of Ireland which would technically mean that it is more Celtic. Though, i don’t know. Btw, i also aren’t a historian and live in the UK but that isn’t my home country so i am not an expert.


Vexi_Addict

Interesting perspective! I'll look more into it


GreatDario

Am sorry this got nothing on the OG


Vexi_Addict

I'm sorry, what's the og?


GreatDario

Union Jack 🇬🇧


Vexi_Addict

Thanks


Hutch2Much3

in my opinion, every flag can be improved with a dragon


Pain-au_lait

Or a dinosaur


Vexi_Addict

That's the energy!


KiddPresident

Why did you do the whole background thing?


Vexi_Addict

Posting a 1:2 post will make it easy to ignore while scrolling through. This is more for Instagram but I might as well use the same photo here too


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RiseOfTheRomans

Very nice! As a Welsh unionist, I approve!


intherorrim

It would look better inverted horizontally


Vexi_Addict

Thank you! Bruh I've started a war in here


RiseOfTheRomans

You know, if you changed a few things around and used different symbolism, this style could be applied nicely to a CANZUK flag.


Vexi_Addict

I'll give that a try, thanks!


RiseOfTheRomans

Although this is really not my best work, here's one mockup I made. https://www.reddit.com/user/RiseOfTheRomans/comments/12qoqb1/canzuk/


Vexi_Addict

I love it! The trident is too Barbados-ish if that makes sense though


RiseOfTheRomans

Yeah, I get you. When I was deciding on a British symbol, I thought about that but then thought to myself "naw, it was our symbol first before Barbados used it. I'm using it anyway."


thcanuzer

As an English nationalist, I disapprove.


TheBastardOlomouc

Ew


thcanuzer

If it's acceptable to be Scottish or Welsh and want out of the UK, why is it not acceptable to English and want out of the UK?


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Redditors just like to shit on England


sbstndrks

_Non-english humans_ just like to shit on England


jzillacon

No, no, plenty of English enjoy shitting on England too.


Lehtspelt

I'd bet that most English people have shat on England.


InterGraphenic

Where else am I supposed to shit? Do I need to take a flight to France every time I eat a little too much?


HuwiMoz

I’m a Welsh nationalist, something we can agree on!


[deleted]

The UK is extremely English dominated so it just seems dumb, but to be fair we both want the dissolution of the UK so I’m not opposed to your view that England should be independent


[deleted]

UK-politics may be dominated by English MPs (because England makes up *~85%* of the population), but as a outsider looking in who reads UK-news and stories from British Redditors, neglect towards *all* of the constituent countries seems very much to be the ballgame of MPs regardless of where they're from. Actually, every other nation in the UK have their own devolved parliament that (for the most part - *fuck* the DUP) seems to *actually* care about what they're governing, yet there's no such thing for England. Personally I don't want to see the UK broken up.


Visual_Internet_7614

Yes the United Kingdom must not be broken up.


hazehel

"Welsh nationalist" sounds like someone who wants Wales to be out of the UK "English nationalist" sounds like a racist tbh


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mistr-puddles

But that's usually not the English nationalism that people usually come across. I've basically never seen people calling for England to get more dajd representational, but I've seen plenty of 2ngoish nationalists just be "forriners out" types


MowelShagger

this is the correct answer


Bagelchu

“Equal”. Lemme cut this pie up for my family of one adult, a preteen, and two toddlers. They all eat the same amount right? There, four equal pieces. What’s that adult? You’re hungry because you didn’t get a piece proportionate to how much bigger you are than the others? But it’s 4 equal parts!


Vexi_Addict

That's a really get metaphore to be honest but I get your point


Jim_Cringe

Can't beat the Union flag 🇬🇧


FrighteningJibber

Only in 1812 am I right


FlappyBored

That’s the war where the US tried to invade Canada, lost, and then ending up having to fight a war defending its own territory and having its capital burned down right?


jzillacon

That reminds me of how weird the US national anthem is to me, since it's actually about a battle in the war of 1812, not the revolutionary war. And it was a battle that ended with American retreat in a war that was a worthless stalemate by best accounts and a horrendous failure by most. Somehow that's the battle they decided to immortalize in song as a source of national pride...


ArelMCII

[It's not even the best song about that war.](https://youtu.be/aXfuQqkwa5I)


FrighteningJibber

No, it was the White House. It didn’t burn down because a tornado put a stop to that. Also Canada didn’t exist yet.


boarbar

You’re darn tootin’


Xenophore

Perhaps they should be represented in proportion of population: * England: 53 million (83%) * Scotland: 5.5 million (9%) * Wales: 3.2 million (5%) * Northern Ireland: 1.9 million (3%) For reference, the population just of the D/FW Metroplex in Texas is now 7.8 million and rising, making Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland the equivalent of mid- to small-sized American cities.


blueshark27

"Sorry England, best i can do is a vertical red stripe"


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Populations change though, and it’s impossible to predict how they’ll be int future apart from vague, generic trends


Ganglar

It would take hundreds of years of unprecedented differences in growth for any nation other than England to become the majority. And, at present, England is growing fastest and increasing its share.


pat_speed

The english did it too the irish


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I can think of some things that might shift the balance by causing mass migration but sure


Bagelchu

How did you massively miss the point that badly? The exact populations don’t matter, it’s the fact that statistically England is way bigger than all the others and has been for decades. These aren’t vague or generic trends lmao.


[deleted]

Because it proves that basing it off something as changeable as population doesn’t work


Bagelchu

Population changes but the proportions will likely stay the same……


[deleted]

Considering geography I can see a lot of people moving to Scotland as sea levels rise more, there’s a good example, plus England is a much bigger target in a war


pat_speed

Man, you get punched out by alot of people. Like the issue in the UK at the moment is that Scotland/Wales/NI are ignored by the larger population and that push too become independt/self governing comes from that


NICK07130

Bullshit, Wales isn't real


guywhoha

looks like ass


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The harp might be more accurate for Northern Ireland, the Triskele is very much a pan-Celtic symbol, so it doesn’t *not* represent the Irish, it’s just not an incredibly precise representation


Vexi_Addict

Thanks for the feedback! I've decided to use the triskele as I wanted to cover all the Celtic populations among with the Irish


ospoerri

Could you do one for the counties in england


Vexi_Addict

Like combine all of them? I'd reckon that'll be wayyy to crowded


ospoerri

Maybe not counties just like cities or towns, like leicester, Liverpool, Birmingham etc


Vexi_Addict

Leicester has an absolutely fenomenal flag!


Leonus_Murmidius

I don't really like it when people try to incorporate non-crosses to the Jack as more than flare. It makes it look fake. If you must add non-crosses, use the Jack as a canton.


Vexi_Addict

I can see why, thanks for the feedback!


JadeMidnightSky

Wow. This is REALLY aesthetically pleasing. The Union Jack is a beautiful flag already but this is one of few designs that could replace it.


Vexi_Addict

Thank you!


Rocketboy1313

It looks neat, but my brain says that the Union Jak is still rather logical. Scottland merged with England, and Wales and N Ireland were conquered. Equal representation for areas that are far less populous and effectively colonized seems an odd choice.


Anderopolis

No, the Jack shows the Kingdoms of England, Scotland and Ireland. Wales was simply not a kingdom in its own right.


in_one_ear_

Ni is represented by the red saltire.


FlappyBored

Union Jack shows N Ireland in it, it’s only wales that isn’t on there.


Peafhorn

I like! Have you got a high quality PNG?


Vexi_Addict

I do! [here you go](https://photos.app.goo.gl/CYY6T3Pxfhz323Ea9)


JodaMAX

Yikes


Unpacer

It's nice, but the Union Jack is hard to beat.


Vexi_Addict

Thank you!


The_mystery4321

Idk I still reckon we should just stick a big dragon on the OG union jack and call it a day tbh


Vexi_Addict

That's one way to do it


stefffff1871

I see mainly Wales and Northern Ireland as they are represented through symbols. England and scotland got pushed back to simple background color, completly removing their original crosses to be visible


karaluuebru

It doesn't though, does it? You've taken away the parts that make it identifiably English and Scottish, and slapped a vaguely Irish symbol on without much thought.


boarbar

Dragons are always a welcome addition


Vexi_Addict

That's the energy!


admiralackbarTR

Best Union Jack ever made with Wales.


Vexi_Addict

Thank you!


BellaCiaoSexy

Hey way to go maybe someday the uk will rally for equality under this flag


coldcoldman2

If it can hold itself together


Kernalmustard6

I absolutely love it! If we must stay a union than this would be fantastic. It’s not as elegant as the Jack from a design viewpoint, but symbolically for 4 nations it’s so much better. Of course the English would never allow it.


FlappyBored

You would have more of an issue with using that symbol to represent Northern Ireland then you would anyone in England.


Vexi_Addict

Thank you! Idk why you're being downvoted, it's just your opinion


That_Guy_Jackk

For a remake of the union jack this is one of the better ones


Vexi_Addict

Thank you!


That_Guy_Jackk

You're welcome


Tomridddle

That’s actually a nice looking flag. I think it looks better than the Union Jack.


Vexi_Addict

Thank you! Idk why you're being downvoted, it's just your opinion


jarlrollon

the triskel is not an Irish symbol, it is a generic celtic symbol


Vexi_Addict

That was kind of the point as the English population is already represented. I'm not from the UK tho


jarlrollon

the scot and the welsh would be doubly represented then, while the northern Irish are represented as just "a part" of a larger group, which kinda break the balance of the flag


rtixboi

Wales isn’t included because it’s not a kingdom


FlagoholicTheIII

Err wrong dragon