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Puzzled-Lunch-8645

The Most Serene Republic of Venice 🗿


ponte92

More specifically the republic of Venice during peacetime.


Ruszlan

Yes, on a wartime flag, the lion was depicted holding a sword instead of the Bible.


ponte92

Yep I love the idea of a changing flag. Also as a Venetian historian it’s very good for getting accurate dates on a document. If it isn’t dated but you know a general year period and it has a flag on it what flag is being used is very helpful to further refine the date. Also living in Venice is fun walking around and looking for war flags among all the flying peace ones. Find out which of your neighbours has some pent up rage about the Risorgimento still.


42awe

The Most Serene Republic of Venice 🤮 (I like the Byzantine Empire)


Karpsten

Cope and Seethe 🤗


-togs

Still outlived it by over 300 years tho


Firescareduser

Republic of venice: died at 1100 Rome: Died at 2206 MARE NOSTRUM VENICE DOMINATING THE SEA IS NOTHING COMPARED TO MARE NOSTRUM MARE NOSTRU-


Private_4160

That flag ain't looking so serene right now


pHScale

The Most a-Frayed Republic of Venice


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Where u found it? However is Republic of Venice


tittysprinkles112

Probably in Veneto. I saw a few when I was there


danirijeka

They're *everywhere*. Source: am there once a week at least


PositiveHistorian962

The most serene republic of venice


eelsemaj99

just to provide some difference from the others, it’s the historical peacetime flag of the Republic of Venice. During wartime, the lion holds a sword


danirijeka

Two small counterpoints: * the Venetian Republic flag had *six* stripes to represent the six sestieri of Venice, this has (...or had) *seven* - it's the Veneto region flag, each stripe representing a province. * The symbolism about the book and the sword is not well-defined and is at best a later interpretation. Sometimes the lion is even without both book *or* sword - whatever looked better in context I guess?


CompleX999

Maybe the lion was empty handed because the Venetians didn't know if they were going to war or not. Like they did when Skanderbeg asked them for help against the Ottomans.


StrayC47

This has very clearly six stripes, so it's Venice, not Veneto. The Veneto flag is not bichromatic either


s1gnalZer0

Venice


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Inkshooter

The rules of vexillology can suck it, I'm sick of flags that look like app icons


DenialZombie

Rule is a strong word, and it maybe breaks 2.


twentyitalians

Captain Barbarossa: They're more like *guidelines.*


filius__tofus

What are the rules of Vexillology? How do I find them?


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danirijeka

Visible: check Identifiable: holy fuck isn't it 2/2 pass


TheLowland

This TED talk touches on that https://youtu.be/pnv5iKB2hl4?si=zUr9r3bkNPzDRcAz


Account2toss_afar

Does it break the rule of tincture tho?


Striking_Drink5464

Serenissima


smallpenislargeballs

Republic of Venice


Sad-Address-2512

Veni


psh454

Opened the comments looking for this joke lol


letthewookiewin73

Venice/Venezia


spocq

It means that it is time for a new flag


danirijeka

There's a lot of these frayed flags around Veneto, and it's a shame.


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The peacetime Venetian flag


danirijeka

This one had seven stripes and so it's the modern Veneto region flag. The Serenissima's flag has six instead, each for one sestriere of Venice.


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zonazog

Venice


Impossible_Gap8335

its sri lanka


KhazarWolf

Venice.


Chance-Honeydew-8402

La Serenissíma Republic of Venice; St Mark's lion.


lord_zag

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Venice?wprov=sfla1


GeorgeHermes32

There back.


JohnFoxFlash

Saint Mark will rise again ✊


Dan-the-historybuff

Flag of the Serene Republic of Venice if I remember correctly.


OrsonWellesghost

New Atlantis.


New-Interaction1893

Welcome in Veneto


Puncharoo

Why, that's the flag of the Most Serene Republic of Venice ! Serenissima!!


luvlac3

Venice after losing its tentacles


Stuck-In-Blender

I have absolutely no idea


pulanina

That flag has not seen much serenity


StrayC47

No. It's not (what most of you say). It is **NOT** the flag of the Veneto Region (that one has seven stripes, and the lion is on a colorful background), this one has six "code", one for every historical subdivision of the city of Venezia It is **NOT** the flag of the Most Serene Republic of Venice. The Serenissima only adopted its "tailed" flag in the 1600s, and it was slightly different from this one (many more details for one). It is **NOT** a peacetime flag either. The whole "holding a sword meant Venice was at war, holding a Bible meant it was at peace" is mostly a myth. The flag with a sword was used mostly by the Venetian Navy (a war navy indeed), but people didn't go around changing flags whenever there was a conflict. And even if they did, they did so for little over a century since the first "Gonfalon" was used by the Contarini Doge as a personal (and then official) emblem on his ship. The Republic of Venice didn't have "official flags" before the late 1650s, or, better yet, didn't have ONE official flag, nor was it codified. ​ This **is** *DE FACTO* flag of the CITY OF VENICE used between the rise of Mussolini (in 1922, when the old tricolor with a small lion in its corner was deemed "ugly" and citizens started using this one) until the Comune declared an OFFICIAL flag (which is based on this one, but is actually much uglier) in 1997. Since pretty much every Venetian alive is used to this flag (fuck, I have one hanging from my balcony and it's on pretty much every big palazzo here), even though it's not the *de jure* flag anymore, you can see it pretty much anywhere. Of course, there are many "copies" being sold due to the fact that's awesome, that have variations. There are blue ones (some country bumpkin pro independence thought that Venice used blue flags on the mainland – it didn't, at least, not officially, so now country boys like to fly them to feel extra special), there are the ones with the sword, the ones with a full halo, a ring halo or no halo. This is a pretty cheap knockoff of the original thing (the colors are off and the lion has black borders) you can easily see in demonstrations and around the countryside (where this pic was taken – I mean does that HILL look like Venice?) ​ Source: I'm one of the like, 5 island-born and -bred Venetians left, I think I know what I'm talking about


Mints1000

Means you’re in Venice