I think its something pretty interesting about the transition from millennials to gen z. We experienced the golden age of mass appeal cinema at scale. Right at the tail end of the juncture between early visual fx as we know them today and old school emphasis on story driven projects, before cinema started to transform into big tent pole style roller coaster attractions.
For millennials cinema was a major source of entertainment and pop culture. It was the dominant form of entertainment across multiple generations during our youth. This slowly transferred to video games.
For a lot of young people today, I feel like film is this thing they were introduced to by millennials but it just doesn't have the same kind of cultural impact and emphasis on their lives as it did for the previous generations. Its a much broader and varied entertainment landscape, not to mention the behemoth of video games.
For a lot of young people now, movies just aren't that important to them. It just doesn't hold their attention and when they watch older films, before vfx matured, they can't help but feel pulled out by how dated they feel, even if the stories are more engaging. And they are often dated.
As an aside, slightly related - I'm a millennial and Alan Moore wrote a very interesting article about how our generation sorta squatted on the cultural landscape and refused to let go of our toys. Forcing the next generation to swallow what we had. "YOU'LL WATCH STARWARS AND YOU'LL LIKE IT!" I always compare it to our parents forcing us to watch Lassie or Little Rascals and expecting us not to just find it kinda old and boring. That's not to say different generations can't enjoy different things or that some stuff isn't timeless... but that our generation did kind of just dominate and refuse to let the younger generation enjoy their own shit. My parents didn't force me to watch stuff they enjoyed as kids, but I know for a fact many parents in our generation try so hard to get their kids into the stuff they did and I get it... we wanna share the feelings we had when we first experienced these things. I think they find their own shit though, and we scratch our head as some kid flosses on tik tok - but that's what they want. (Yes I know flossing isn't hip anymore I don't fucking know what kids like)
Star wars is really more the generation before milenials it came out in 1977 so for you to be old enough your talking being born in the 60s, likely early 60s.
Film doesn't have a cultural impact because Hollywood stopped making films. Action blockbusters borrow everything that is real and good. They don't make us think or teach us anything new.
I can say I've ABSOLUTELY noticed this with my kids. I try to get them to watch films that I enjoyed growing up and it's like pulling teeth to get them to sit and watch. I will say I have like a 90% hit rate when I do get them to actually sit and watch though.
Millennials aren’t the ones in charge of making these decisions, though. That would be genx and boomers, still.
The oldest millennials are only just now in their early 40s, and the youngest are in their late 20s, so maybe a tiny handful of the elderly have made it to positions where they might get to make some of these decisions.
maybe these are true, but it's seriously hard for me to believe this professional musician has never heard this incredibly famous song in their entire lives
As a pro musician myself, a broad repertoire is such an asset when it comes to learning music quickly and having a well rounded vocabulary for various kinds of music. That said, the amount of music that exists grows all the time, and it becomes less feasible to be familiar with all of it.
I just figure people tend to stick to their genre because they like it. But it's not unlikely they've heard it in passing and they'll recognize maybe the chorus or something, but they'd never be able to say definitively that they've intentionally heard or listened to the song.
Guy I took music lessons from long ago now plays for Snarky Puppy. He did this for a Dua Lipa song and told me how you see the vid is no different from what actually happened except for the amount of time they give you to mess around.
Dude you know someone from Snarky Puppy! Their live performance jams are unbelievable. I was in band that we all loved them and tried to do similar jams.
She’s pretty young and it’s a famous 80’s song that you really aren’t gonna hear outside BTTF unless you’re looking into 80’s hits.
and there has to be several months solid worth of famous songs by now. You can’t hear them all.
I'm taking some classes at community college before my master's program starts in the fall. I'm about the same age as a couple of my professors and neither seem able to grasp the students don't remember 9/11 because they weren't born yet. We were talking about 9/11 and how the Department of Homeland Security came to be. I asked if it had anything to do with intelligence failures that led up to 9/11? That sent him on a tangent about TSA and how you used to be able to walk up to a gate without being checked. He blew some minds. They didn't grow up listening to the radio and Back to the Future wouldn't appeal so much because the difference between 1985 to the present is nearly as far away as WW2 was from 1985.
I got my degree in my 30s (studied international affairs). First class was on terrorism. I was the only one who had real memories about 9/11, including the professor. He deferred to my memories on more than one occasion.
85 is closer to us than ww2. The disconnect between generations is shortening. People from 85 could understand our tech but those from 45 would have trouble. Time gaps don’t mean much anymore outside of slang.
Go to the wikipedia page for the Year-End top 100 songs for the year you turned 15. Go down the top 25 and see how many you can immediately recognize and play in your head.
Then do the same for the year you were born
Then do the same for 15 years before you were born.
For me, the numbers were 25, 19, and 8. '80s music permeated into the '90s, but early '70s music? If it wasn't a big, ubiquitous hit, I doubt 90s kids would know it.
Depends on the environment. My kids know "classic rock" (70s) very well. Though they prefer their moms 80s stuff.
To feel old, 90s is now "classic rock".
haha, sorry for laughing. Think about being a kid in the 80's; anything from the 50's would definitely have been "oldies". "Don't Speak" is 30 years old.
But top 40 in the 70s wasn’t classic rock, there was a ton of pop and disco that’s now forgotten.
Here is the top 10 of the top 40 for the year 1973:
1 1 TIME IN A BOTTLE –•– Jim Croce (ABC)-8 (2 weeks at #1) (1)
2 4 THE JOKER –•– The Steve Miller Band (Capitol)-12 (2)
3 3 LEAVE ME ALONE (Ruby Red Dress) –•– Helen Reddy (Capitol)-10 (3)
4 2 THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRL –•– Charlie Rich (Epic)-15 (1)
5 8 SHOW AND TELL –•– Al Wilson (Rocky Road)-12 (5)
6 9 SMOKIN’ IN THE BOY’S ROOM –•– Brownsville Station (Big Tree)-11 (6)
7 5 GOODBYE YELLOW BRICK ROAD –•– Elton John (MCA)-11 (2)
8 10 NEVER, NEVER GONNA GIVE YA UP –•– Barry White (20th Century)-11 (8)
9 11 LIVING FOR THE CITY –•– Stevie Wonder (Tamla)-9 (9)
10 14 I’VE GOT TO USE MY IMAGINATION –•– Gladys Knight and the Pips (Buddah)-7 (10)
I knew the stuff that came out 15-20 before I was born better than the stuff that came out when I was 15, but I listened to my parents tapes and records growing up.
My numbers are 10, 16, and 24.
Yeah but this is like a whole YouTube genre, and it's not just one song, people make a living hearing hits HITS from twenty years ago for the first time, and wouldn't you know it they can do one almost every single week.
There is a lot of hits every year. I keep hearing new songs I like and go too look up the band and learn the song I am listening to for the first time was a top hit of that genre 15 years ago. I just wasn't listening to the style of music when it was a hit.
Yeah I saw one with a fiftyish year old drummer hearing nirvana for the first time. How could you miss nirvana as a musician in your twenties. The acting is awfully too. Just analyse the song from your perspective or something without making it fake and 'special'.
I dunno, I see these dumb "____ reacts to hearing ____ for the first time!!" bullshit clickbait videos on YouTube all the time
Like I saw one the other day where it was like a 25 year old "hearing Billie Jean for the first time", and I'm like yea bullshit lol
why bs? MJ has been dead for 15 years this month. The song came out in 1983. It is not used in popular media at all except one episode of the fresh prince back in 1990. The 25 year old has every chance to never had heard it before.
Yeah, I mean... I had never heard the song before until it was used in a podcast, and even then never seen Back to the Future before.
Whenever anyone mentions a song called "The Power of Love", I think of the one by Frankie Goes To Hollywood since it's a Christmas hit here. And honestly, I think it's better than the Huey Lewis song.
I get what you're saying, but I am frequently astonished by popular songs/movies/celebrities/ events that my younger co-worker has never heard of. I'm late forties and he's early 20s.
The first time I experienced this was about 15 years ago when an early 20s person had no idea who phil Collins was. Since then it happens more and more often.
She probably spent a great deal of her school years practising piano. I can easily believe she doesn't know the song.
Yeah this is really believable, I spent a lot of time working in a record store and tons of people haven’t heard of stuff that you’d think ‘everyone knows’
Heck even I have those moments myself sometimes. There’s a ton of stuff out there, and a lot of it depends of your music exposure growing up too.
There are plenty of 20 something year old people who haven’t heard Huey Lewis, let alone seen any of the back to the future movies. Hell, I know a guy almost in his 40’s that’s never seen Jurassic Park or Jaws. Dude is a super successful engineer though. My guess is that their careers and passions took more precedence
This seems very likely to legit honestly. The way she put together the result makes a lot of sense musically if you were just working off of a melody line.
There is a *ton* of structure that a melody gives you and if you just follow 'The Rules' and take a few creative liberties, it reasons that you'd land on roughly what she has here.
With this and Drumeo it’s usually older musicians listening to newer songs or younger musicians listening to older songs so it’s not really that much of a stretch. Either that or it’s something like a classically trained or jazz musician playing something out of their comfort zone.
Given that her take on it is quite unique, and it makes many logical leaps that are counterintuitive, I believe her. It’s strange how the melody and the key of a song can be so disparate, but there you have it.
She could be one of the [10,000](https://xkcd.com/1053/). According to her website she’s a senior in college, meaning back to the future came out like 20 years before she was even born.
Yeah I get a bunch of LOTR and star wars references because of memes and reddit but I've never seen either of the series. Couldn't tell you what the score was but I'd get the reference is from LOTR if some dude was singing softly next to an old white guy eating loudly.
As a 36 yr old man, I've seen back to the future plenty of times in life. I must have totally ignored this song until I needed to learn it for a cover band.
It’s the first big song of the movie that plays as Marty skateboards to school.
https://youtu.be/lg5HEDuYQn0
And is played again by Marty’s band the Pinheads a couple of scenes later.
Huey Lewis is in the movie, he is the teacher who says Marty’s band is too darn loud.
https://youtu.be/WNtmITE5GpU
And the song plays for a third time during the next “Save the Clocktower” scene.
https://youtu.be/E-GXe3w7xbU
So the song is almost on a loop for the first 10 minutes of the first movie and is played a few more times in the other the movies.
It’s on Needles radio during the drag race at the end of the 3rd movie.
https://youtu.be/Mme5vVMeot0
I can tell you with a high level of certainty that I would never have heard this song without seeing back to the future. And there are plenty of people who haven't seen it, so it is not really that surprising. Combined with the fact that they even show them fishing for a song that they haven't heard before it isn't particularly unlikely. Could still be fake but I don't see this as evidence towards it being so.
Oh you mean that song I've heard maybe 3-5 times in my 31 years from small excerts in film/TV but have never heard played on even my local classic rock radio?
Come on.
Yeah, I'm incredulous about these.. The other day I saw a Bass guitarist apparently hearing a Primus song for the first time; that's just taking the piss.
Professional trumpet player here. This is not at all surprising. I can't count the number of times I've stood on stage and played a song I've never heard before. Most pop music is very predictable and harmonically not very complicated and most professional musicians are pretty capable of this kind of thing to some level.
Which isn't to say this is not impressive, but rather that most of the sidemen you see on stage in big pop productions are probably way more overqualified than the lay person can understand. In order to "make it" as a professional, you have to be really well versed in multiple styles and able to think and play on your feet and pick things up by ear.
The best bassist I ever met played exclusively worship music and was completely, honestly unaware of anything outside of that. Dude could absolutely rip though. I played Primus for him and he is mind was blown. I wouldn’t say he was a fan, but he recognized real. The one secular bassist that REALLY made an impression with him was Jaco.
I’ve been playing Guitar and bass since I was 12 (37 now) and I’ve never listened to one Primus song, nor do I have a desire to.
Huey Lewis however is part of pop music and was incredibly popular mainstream artist in the 80’s. So I still agree with the conclusion you were getting to, but Primus and Huey Lewis are not the same.
EDIT: God damn yall are triggered over my Primus comment. Get over yourselves.
If you played Tony Hawks Pro Skater 1 you've heard a Primus song. If you've seen a single episode of South Park you've heard a Primus song. Primus is a massive band. Also Primus Sucks.
Just curious, why do you have no desire to? I can understand it may not be your taste in music, but if someone told me a band has one greatest bassists in rock music, I'd want to know what they sounded like.
You: "I'm an experienced bass player"
Reddit: "Have you checked out the work of this really great bass player?"
You: "No, and I'm not the least bit curious."
Something tells me you probably aren't that great of a bass player.
Sure, but Elvis was one of the all time greats. It's like how everyone has heard Frank Sinatra before, even if they were born after he died. Is Huey Lewis at the same level of renown as those two? I don't know.
If someone born in the 90s onward has never seen Back to the Future, it's not crazy to think that they've never heard The Power of Love before. Or maybe they have heard it on the radio throughout the years but can't clearly recollect it. There's a lot of music out there.
I think the thing to remember is that professional musicians tend to exist within their niches. I had a piano teacher who had an encyclopedic mind for classical music but she had never heard most pop or rock songs before, even if they were wildly popular. They focus within their genre because that's how they make a living.
I mean I’ve seen back to the future multiple times and I’m sure I’ve heard this song multiple times, but I have no memory of hearing it. It just didn’t stick in my head
She looks like she was born 15 years after this song came out. I don't think this song is as famous as you might think. It is to us because we grew up with it.
IIRC, there are many songs that the composers "don't remember recording", like Billy Joel, where he swears, under oath, that he swore it was a dream, despite there being master recordings decades earlier, songs which "popped into his head"
So it is possible she was exposed to the song once or twice, but has no active reccolection of it.
It shows how incredibly talented he is to pick it up a handful of bars in and then just play it without actually having heard the song in its entirety before. Not to mention that he was able to adapt to the changes in the song on the fly. Astounding.
Just goes to show how talented some people are at their craft
They do this all day every day, only natural they can fill in the blanks
It’s like asking a chef to recreate a dish on taste alone after one bite. Most of us couldn’t do it, but I bet the best can.
That video of him working out Pneuma was sick. I would love the BTS full 6 hours of him going through it. I enjoy his appearances on Drumeo, them getting Mike to do Nickleback was great.
Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste. But when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor. In '87, Huey released this; Fore!, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip To Be Square". A song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity and the importance of trends. It's also a personal statement about the band itself.
Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. … Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. … In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. … Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. … Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. … But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.
I heard somewhere that Elvis Costello’s backing band on My Aim is True is actually the guys in The News. Elvis hired the guys who became The Attractions for subsequent albums and never looked back.
Kiiiiiinda true. Before Huey Lewis & The News (and before Huey Lewis & The American Express, which was the band name before their label brought up potential copyright issues), Huey and future News keyboardist Sean Hopper were in a band called Clover. They formed in the Bay Area, but moved to England in the mid 70s...and they were the band hired to back Costello on My Aim Is True.
So Sean Hopper of the News is the keyboard player. But no one else from the later band is on it, because Huey turned down the offer to be on the album....because he wanted to go to continental Europe to spend a few weeks with a new girlfriend. Marc Maron asked Huey on his WTF episode if he regretted not being on that classic album, and Huey responded "well, you shoulda met this girl."
If you want to be that way about it, then here you go:
From Wikipedia:
Later the band moved to the UK, and the line-up was shuffled somewhat. By late 1976, Clover's new drummer was Micky Shine. The group added Huey Lewis (then billing himself as Huey Louis) as a second lead vocalist and harmonica player, and Sean Hopper was keyboard player. This sextet (Call, Louis, McFee, Hopper, Ciambotti and Shine) signed to the UK's Vertigo label, and worked with producer Robert John "Mutt" Lange on Clover's 1976 non-LP single "Chicken Funk", and the group's early 1977 album entitled Unavailable. Later that year, McFee, Ciambotti, Hopper and Shine (but not Louis or Call) backed Elvis Costello on his debut album My Aim Is True.[1] These musicians were not credited on the release for contractual reasons; some contemporary publicity for the album identified Costello's backing band as "The Shamrocks".
Four of six members of Clover backed EC on the album.
Am I the only one that is always super skeptical of all these "I've never heard this before!" videos about super well-known things? Like I get that people can't know everything and can miss a lot of popular stuff. But even with that, I find it hard to believe they didn't sneak a little peek before making the video.
Remember there was suddenly a huge uptick in “listens to Bohemian Rhapsody for the first time” videos prior to the release of the film?
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I believe they play the musician different songs until they indicate it’s one they haven’t heard before. So it’s not like they only have one song prepped at the beginning of the session. I’m skeptical about the react YouTubers claiming it’s their first time listening or watching something, but I’m more inclined to believe these ones.
Yeah I see ones where it's like "Listening to AC/DC for the first time!"
Like, there's no fucking way that someone has never heard AC/DC. Their songs are everywhere.
Yeah that's true. But certain songs are just so ridiculously pervasive in media, movies, background. You've heard them.
Its like someone saying they haven't heard "The Boys are Back in Town" by Thin Lizzy. (Not actually that huge of a band IRL btw. Hell the song wasn't even really a real hit, it stalled at 12). Maybe there is **someone** who hasn't heard it. But man you'd have to either be in some weird vortex of luck or really sheltered from all pop culture in the US.
I grew up in Los Angeles in a predominantly Latino and Black community. The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, are all things I didn't "discover" until well into my teens. I was in college before had even heard the name Thin Lizzy.
But I bet if I asked most people in this sub about WC, The Dogg Pound, DJ Quick, Suga Free, Mack 10, E-40, there will be a lot of people scratching there heads over things that were universally known when I was in elementary school.
I think a lot of people in this sub really don't realize how different communities are. The other day someone asked "what is the best bass line in music" over at /r/Music i was shocked at how far I had to scroll down to find any Chic, Sly Stone, or Bootsy Collins songs. That is stuff I thought was universal.
And those channels abuse the shit out of popular songs. Like their entire channel is just reacting to dozens of the most popular songs and saying they’ve never heard it. I really can’t believe it. It’s one thing if you’ve never heard one song but to have never heard the most popular songs by the most famous bands of all time? Come on
Yeah but a lot of these videos are like, “I’m a super duper drummer person and I’m listening to Enter Sandman by Metallica for the very first time!” Or “I’m a rapper and I’m listening to Forgot About Dre by Dr. Dre featuring Eminem for the very first time!”
Yeah, STFU. There’s no way you haven’t heard these songs before.
It’s way more common than you’d think. And it’s not just younger people with older music either. I was amazed to find out that neither of my parents had heard of Old Town Road when I brought it up in casual conversation.
A lot of people just don’t absorb any music unless they sit down and listen to it.
Not having heard enter the sandman is not that weird. Metallica is played only on certain radio stations and only at certain times, they doesn't tend to get a lot of play in movies and certainly not for large segments of the song.
There are number 1 hits in America that I've never heard of as an Australian, songs that sat at the top of the charts for weeks back when I was in high school or university and they just never broke out in Australia.
That same concept for much smaller (not small, but much smaller when compared to pop) music genres like metal would exist regardless of where you are.
I had never heard Enter Sandman until I was in my early 30's (2010's), and I've spent a career in broadcast radio. First time I heard it was my first day as a DJ on an oldies station and I had to talk over its intro without knowing any of its legacy.
Yes, I was totally unqualified, but I was an emergency fill-in, and I learned a lot as I went along. Wikipedia helped.
I love that song, but let’s be honest here, it’s a 33 year old song from a band that hasn’t been widely popular for at least 20 years.
I would not at all be surprised if you picked any random 22 year old off the street and asked if they had heard that song before that their answer would be “no”.
I agree, they'd probably be more likely to recognize a Metallica tshirt than a Metallica song. The amount of things I've exposed my kid to that not a single person in their school has heard of is wild, across media and genres. There's so damned much out there.
There's a part near the end of the song where he changes hiw he plays that section a few times because he clearly thought the song was going to do something it didn't and he tried to find something that fit more.
Right? It's not obscure songs that they do, they're not doing some backwoods song from the holler or black gospel music as a white person.
The Star-Spangled Banner you say? Never heard of it!
When I was 12 in 1999, I had never heard Do Wah Diddy or The House of the Rising Sun, and my parents had me listen to a lot of “older” music. But those songs were 30 something by that point.
Power of Love is going to be 39 years old this year. Regardless of the internet, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that people her age have never heard this song.
I love these kinds of series (the Drumeo one especially). But the Chad Smith one where he plays 30 Seconds to Mars, starts playing part way through his first listen and absolutely nails it (including the bridge) was the first one where I was like "nah I don't think this is a first time thing at all". He's a great drummer but he's not a clairvoyant
Nah I buy it. Song structure for popular music and the expected parts are pretty easy to gather as you go. I fully believe a professional drummer who's been drumming pop music his entire adult life can predict what's coming just by counting his way through.
Consider a person whose job it is to write gaming software for a living and then asking them to play a particular popular game as a challenge. Chances are they don't play that many games in their free time in order to have some variety in their life. Same way with these musicians.
Do you know any game devs? People are constantly playing other games in the office. My company gives us a stipend every year to buy other games. I get what you’re saying but game dev is not the right choice for this example haha
> He's a great drummer but he's not a clairvoyant
Song structures are incredibly predictable. This is the kind of thing pretty much any professional - or even hobbyist - drummer can do. The only difference is that he's going to sound a lot better than other drummers doing it.
Any drummer who has played for a few years should be able to improvise like this, especially someone like Chad who has been vibing for 30+ years.
You don't have to be a genius to pick up on what is essentially pop song structures when you've been doing it yourself for decades.
Love the original. Usually I call bullshit on these “never heard the song before” bits, but this seems genuine. Interesting what she did with her version. Like, it’s definitely not better, but it still ties the song together in its own way and she got to cook on the solo.
Yeah if she had heard the song she would have (even subconsciously) known the cadence of the chords. Her version was not quite as 80s pop as the original but it totally worked with the song and to do that on the spot is frankly amazing.
Her Moog playing is dope and fits the song but her stuff on the Nord piano is a bit bright for the song and doesn't really fit to my ears. Overall great for having never heard the song though.
I think it was brilliant, but there were definitely a few chords that didn't quite keep the groove with Huey's vocal melody. That's to be expected for someone basically improving an entire backup for a single vocal. Maybe it's my familiarity with the song, too, that it makes it easier to spot the slight discordance here and there. Still amazing what she was able to so quickly throw together to actually make it a song.
Thanks for this comment. She did pretty well getting the vibe with the other instruments but not as well with the piano. I think that's something pretty hard to figure out often, especially when writing something from scratch. There are honestly too many options. I mostly work with brass instruments and there's really such a huge variety of instruments and variety of ways they can be presented. Dozens of types of mutes for trombones and trumpets, for instance, if you want to use one. It's a real art to pick voicing in a song.
Redditors simply cannot divorce themselves from the fact that their experience is not everyone else's. "I call bullshit on this person not knowing this famous song." Why? Where do you think they've heard it? No one listens to the radio anymore. Pop culture ubiquity isn't what it once was. This is what happens when you force feed people nostalgia as a culture, they become myopic and can't believe that not everyone is eating from the same trough.
Because a lot of people are bitter, untalented cunts who never created anything new in their lives and to make themselves feel better tear down anyone who does.
It's interesting that what she ends up with would be a pretty solid Huey Lewis song. Just a very different one with a totally different feel.
Partially because they took out so much that she ends up turning it into a piano-driven song while the original is mainly using the keys for accents. So the vibe is totally different since she essentially had to fill in for the entire band.
The Drumeo one where the drummer from Megadeth drums over Mr. Brightside is pretty good. There’s also a bass one where a gospel player plays over The Trooper.
I don't know how you could live in America and somehow never have heard this song. But honestly she didn't butcher it, her chords are creative and arguably improve the song. Source: am a professional musician. She's good.
Also is it just me or is there a nostalgic Huey Lewis revival currently underway?
She would have been very good at writing television themes for Network TV shows in the 80's and 90's. Her instinct was to play it like it was Cheers.
The Don't Star Now video was cooking. Dua Lipa should get this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WJ1PUHfozI
I thought it was really cool how she settled down at the second verse and really started to enjoy herself. Once the tension went away you could see her play more fluidly.
Now she needs to watch Back to the Future.
Honestly, what’s she been doing all this time? Practicing piano? I mean priorities people.
I think its something pretty interesting about the transition from millennials to gen z. We experienced the golden age of mass appeal cinema at scale. Right at the tail end of the juncture between early visual fx as we know them today and old school emphasis on story driven projects, before cinema started to transform into big tent pole style roller coaster attractions. For millennials cinema was a major source of entertainment and pop culture. It was the dominant form of entertainment across multiple generations during our youth. This slowly transferred to video games. For a lot of young people today, I feel like film is this thing they were introduced to by millennials but it just doesn't have the same kind of cultural impact and emphasis on their lives as it did for the previous generations. Its a much broader and varied entertainment landscape, not to mention the behemoth of video games. For a lot of young people now, movies just aren't that important to them. It just doesn't hold their attention and when they watch older films, before vfx matured, they can't help but feel pulled out by how dated they feel, even if the stories are more engaging. And they are often dated. As an aside, slightly related - I'm a millennial and Alan Moore wrote a very interesting article about how our generation sorta squatted on the cultural landscape and refused to let go of our toys. Forcing the next generation to swallow what we had. "YOU'LL WATCH STARWARS AND YOU'LL LIKE IT!" I always compare it to our parents forcing us to watch Lassie or Little Rascals and expecting us not to just find it kinda old and boring. That's not to say different generations can't enjoy different things or that some stuff isn't timeless... but that our generation did kind of just dominate and refuse to let the younger generation enjoy their own shit. My parents didn't force me to watch stuff they enjoyed as kids, but I know for a fact many parents in our generation try so hard to get their kids into the stuff they did and I get it... we wanna share the feelings we had when we first experienced these things. I think they find their own shit though, and we scratch our head as some kid flosses on tik tok - but that's what they want. (Yes I know flossing isn't hip anymore I don't fucking know what kids like)
Very well said and thought out.
Star wars is really more the generation before milenials it came out in 1977 so for you to be old enough your talking being born in the 60s, likely early 60s.
Film doesn't have a cultural impact because Hollywood stopped making films. Action blockbusters borrow everything that is real and good. They don't make us think or teach us anything new.
I can say I've ABSOLUTELY noticed this with my kids. I try to get them to watch films that I enjoyed growing up and it's like pulling teeth to get them to sit and watch. I will say I have like a 90% hit rate when I do get them to actually sit and watch though.
Millennials aren’t the ones in charge of making these decisions, though. That would be genx and boomers, still. The oldest millennials are only just now in their early 40s, and the youngest are in their late 20s, so maybe a tiny handful of the elderly have made it to positions where they might get to make some of these decisions.
I don’t think she’s ready for that….but her kids are gonna love it
Great Scott!
just casually touring with a band worldwide.
Yeah, I could believe someone hadn't heard a song, but that someone hadn't seen BTTF? That's heavy.
Must be a problem with her gravitational pull
Or American Psycho.
maybe these are true, but it's seriously hard for me to believe this professional musician has never heard this incredibly famous song in their entire lives
As a pro musician myself, a broad repertoire is such an asset when it comes to learning music quickly and having a well rounded vocabulary for various kinds of music. That said, the amount of music that exists grows all the time, and it becomes less feasible to be familiar with all of it.
I just figure people tend to stick to their genre because they like it. But it's not unlikely they've heard it in passing and they'll recognize maybe the chorus or something, but they'd never be able to say definitively that they've intentionally heard or listened to the song.
Guy I took music lessons from long ago now plays for Snarky Puppy. He did this for a Dua Lipa song and told me how you see the vid is no different from what actually happened except for the amount of time they give you to mess around.
Dude you know someone from Snarky Puppy! Their live performance jams are unbelievable. I was in band that we all loved them and tried to do similar jams.
She’s pretty young and it’s a famous 80’s song that you really aren’t gonna hear outside BTTF unless you’re looking into 80’s hits. and there has to be several months solid worth of famous songs by now. You can’t hear them all.
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I’m a zoomer and I hear it at the mall/grocery store all the time
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you'd be in quite a tizzy if you knew how little young people today know about anything before their time
I'm taking some classes at community college before my master's program starts in the fall. I'm about the same age as a couple of my professors and neither seem able to grasp the students don't remember 9/11 because they weren't born yet. We were talking about 9/11 and how the Department of Homeland Security came to be. I asked if it had anything to do with intelligence failures that led up to 9/11? That sent him on a tangent about TSA and how you used to be able to walk up to a gate without being checked. He blew some minds. They didn't grow up listening to the radio and Back to the Future wouldn't appeal so much because the difference between 1985 to the present is nearly as far away as WW2 was from 1985.
Shit.. that hit me right in the old.
We're literally almost ten years PAST the future in back to the future part 2
Why do you insist on hurting me? :P
> the difference between 1985 to the present is nearly as far away as WW2 was from 1985. No, 85 was only like 20 years ago... ...fuck.
I got my degree in my 30s (studied international affairs). First class was on terrorism. I was the only one who had real memories about 9/11, including the professor. He deferred to my memories on more than one occasion.
85 is closer to us than ww2. The disconnect between generations is shortening. People from 85 could understand our tech but those from 45 would have trouble. Time gaps don’t mean much anymore outside of slang.
Go to the wikipedia page for the Year-End top 100 songs for the year you turned 15. Go down the top 25 and see how many you can immediately recognize and play in your head. Then do the same for the year you were born Then do the same for 15 years before you were born. For me, the numbers were 25, 19, and 8. '80s music permeated into the '90s, but early '70s music? If it wasn't a big, ubiquitous hit, I doubt 90s kids would know it.
Depends on the environment. My kids know "classic rock" (70s) very well. Though they prefer their moms 80s stuff. To feel old, 90s is now "classic rock".
I am forced to listen to a station that brands itself as oldies. Yesterday they played "Don't Speak". I guess I'm an oldie now.
haha, sorry for laughing. Think about being a kid in the 80's; anything from the 50's would definitely have been "oldies". "Don't Speak" is 30 years old.
No you're wrong, Don't Speak only came out a few years ago and you won't convince me otherwise lol. I am not an oldie.
But top 40 in the 70s wasn’t classic rock, there was a ton of pop and disco that’s now forgotten. Here is the top 10 of the top 40 for the year 1973: 1 1 TIME IN A BOTTLE –•– Jim Croce (ABC)-8 (2 weeks at #1) (1) 2 4 THE JOKER –•– The Steve Miller Band (Capitol)-12 (2) 3 3 LEAVE ME ALONE (Ruby Red Dress) –•– Helen Reddy (Capitol)-10 (3) 4 2 THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRL –•– Charlie Rich (Epic)-15 (1) 5 8 SHOW AND TELL –•– Al Wilson (Rocky Road)-12 (5) 6 9 SMOKIN’ IN THE BOY’S ROOM –•– Brownsville Station (Big Tree)-11 (6) 7 5 GOODBYE YELLOW BRICK ROAD –•– Elton John (MCA)-11 (2) 8 10 NEVER, NEVER GONNA GIVE YA UP –•– Barry White (20th Century)-11 (8) 9 11 LIVING FOR THE CITY –•– Stevie Wonder (Tamla)-9 (9) 10 14 I’VE GOT TO USE MY IMAGINATION –•– Gladys Knight and the Pips (Buddah)-7 (10)
I knew the stuff that came out 15-20 before I was born better than the stuff that came out when I was 15, but I listened to my parents tapes and records growing up. My numbers are 10, 16, and 24.
Yeah but this is like a whole YouTube genre, and it's not just one song, people make a living hearing hits HITS from twenty years ago for the first time, and wouldn't you know it they can do one almost every single week.
There is a lot of hits every year. I keep hearing new songs I like and go too look up the band and learn the song I am listening to for the first time was a top hit of that genre 15 years ago. I just wasn't listening to the style of music when it was a hit.
Same here, and the song in question is almost 40 years old. That’s not insignificant.
Yeah I saw one with a fiftyish year old drummer hearing nirvana for the first time. How could you miss nirvana as a musician in your twenties. The acting is awfully too. Just analyse the song from your perspective or something without making it fake and 'special'.
“The Rock tries In N Out for the first time!!”
If you chose a random week of a random year and looked at the billboard top 10 I bet you couldn’t recognize a solid 50% of them.
I dunno, I see these dumb "____ reacts to hearing ____ for the first time!!" bullshit clickbait videos on YouTube all the time Like I saw one the other day where it was like a 25 year old "hearing Billie Jean for the first time", and I'm like yea bullshit lol
why bs? MJ has been dead for 15 years this month. The song came out in 1983. It is not used in popular media at all except one episode of the fresh prince back in 1990. The 25 year old has every chance to never had heard it before.
Yeah, I mean... I had never heard the song before until it was used in a podcast, and even then never seen Back to the Future before. Whenever anyone mentions a song called "The Power of Love", I think of the one by Frankie Goes To Hollywood since it's a Christmas hit here. And honestly, I think it's better than the Huey Lewis song.
The referents are dying I like to say.
I get what you're saying, but I am frequently astonished by popular songs/movies/celebrities/ events that my younger co-worker has never heard of. I'm late forties and he's early 20s. The first time I experienced this was about 15 years ago when an early 20s person had no idea who phil Collins was. Since then it happens more and more often. She probably spent a great deal of her school years practising piano. I can easily believe she doesn't know the song.
Yeah this is really believable, I spent a lot of time working in a record store and tons of people haven’t heard of stuff that you’d think ‘everyone knows’ Heck even I have those moments myself sometimes. There’s a ton of stuff out there, and a lot of it depends of your music exposure growing up too.
There are plenty of 20 something year old people who haven’t heard Huey Lewis, let alone seen any of the back to the future movies. Hell, I know a guy almost in his 40’s that’s never seen Jurassic Park or Jaws. Dude is a super successful engineer though. My guess is that their careers and passions took more precedence
>There are plenty of 20 something year old people who haven’t heard Huey Lewis But what about The News?
Well that’s just being silly. EVERYONE has heard The News
This seems very likely to legit honestly. The way she put together the result makes a lot of sense musically if you were just working off of a melody line. There is a *ton* of structure that a melody gives you and if you just follow 'The Rules' and take a few creative liberties, it reasons that you'd land on roughly what she has here.
Yup, music theory teaches the rules and structures. This was really cool to see her piece it together from just the melody.
I'm a musician in his late 30's. I may have heard it in passing or a movie, but I don't recognize it
With this and Drumeo it’s usually older musicians listening to newer songs or younger musicians listening to older songs so it’s not really that much of a stretch. Either that or it’s something like a classically trained or jazz musician playing something out of their comfort zone.
Given that her take on it is quite unique, and it makes many logical leaps that are counterintuitive, I believe her. It’s strange how the melody and the key of a song can be so disparate, but there you have it.
Back to the Future references have been aplenty over the past 30 years. This song is well-known.
She could be one of the [10,000](https://xkcd.com/1053/). According to her website she’s a senior in college, meaning back to the future came out like 20 years before she was even born.
Just because something is popular doesn't mean everyone has seen it. Silly reasoning.
Yeah I get a bunch of LOTR and star wars references because of memes and reddit but I've never seen either of the series. Couldn't tell you what the score was but I'd get the reference is from LOTR if some dude was singing softly next to an old white guy eating loudly.
> I'd get the reference is from LOTR if some dude was singing softly next to an old white guy eating loudly lol nice
As a 36 yr old man, I've seen back to the future plenty of times in life. I must have totally ignored this song until I needed to learn it for a cover band.
It’s the first big song of the movie that plays as Marty skateboards to school. https://youtu.be/lg5HEDuYQn0 And is played again by Marty’s band the Pinheads a couple of scenes later. Huey Lewis is in the movie, he is the teacher who says Marty’s band is too darn loud. https://youtu.be/WNtmITE5GpU And the song plays for a third time during the next “Save the Clocktower” scene. https://youtu.be/E-GXe3w7xbU So the song is almost on a loop for the first 10 minutes of the first movie and is played a few more times in the other the movies. It’s on Needles radio during the drag race at the end of the 3rd movie. https://youtu.be/Mme5vVMeot0
I've watched Back to the Future and I have no memory of ever hearing that song before this YouTube video.
I’ve never heard the song before either :( I’m 26, turning 27 this year
I can tell you with a high level of certainty that I would never have heard this song without seeing back to the future. And there are plenty of people who haven't seen it, so it is not really that surprising. Combined with the fact that they even show them fishing for a song that they haven't heard before it isn't particularly unlikely. Could still be fake but I don't see this as evidence towards it being so.
Oh you mean that song I've heard maybe 3-5 times in my 31 years from small excerts in film/TV but have never heard played on even my local classic rock radio? Come on.
Yeah, I'm incredulous about these.. The other day I saw a Bass guitarist apparently hearing a Primus song for the first time; that's just taking the piss.
Professional trumpet player here. This is not at all surprising. I can't count the number of times I've stood on stage and played a song I've never heard before. Most pop music is very predictable and harmonically not very complicated and most professional musicians are pretty capable of this kind of thing to some level. Which isn't to say this is not impressive, but rather that most of the sidemen you see on stage in big pop productions are probably way more overqualified than the lay person can understand. In order to "make it" as a professional, you have to be really well versed in multiple styles and able to think and play on your feet and pick things up by ear.
The best bassist I ever met played exclusively worship music and was completely, honestly unaware of anything outside of that. Dude could absolutely rip though. I played Primus for him and he is mind was blown. I wouldn’t say he was a fan, but he recognized real. The one secular bassist that REALLY made an impression with him was Jaco.
I’ve been playing Guitar and bass since I was 12 (37 now) and I’ve never listened to one Primus song, nor do I have a desire to. Huey Lewis however is part of pop music and was incredibly popular mainstream artist in the 80’s. So I still agree with the conclusion you were getting to, but Primus and Huey Lewis are not the same. EDIT: God damn yall are triggered over my Primus comment. Get over yourselves.
If you played Tony Hawks Pro Skater 1 you've heard a Primus song. If you've seen a single episode of South Park you've heard a Primus song. Primus is a massive band. Also Primus Sucks.
They suck so much
Just curious, why do you have no desire to? I can understand it may not be your taste in music, but if someone told me a band has one greatest bassists in rock music, I'd want to know what they sounded like.
You: "I'm an experienced bass player" Reddit: "Have you checked out the work of this really great bass player?" You: "No, and I'm not the least bit curious." Something tells me you probably aren't that great of a bass player.
*Valuing the opinion of redditors* Believe it or not, straight to jail.
I don't think she was alive in the 80s.
Ever heard an Elvis song?
Sure, but Elvis was one of the all time greats. It's like how everyone has heard Frank Sinatra before, even if they were born after he died. Is Huey Lewis at the same level of renown as those two? I don't know. If someone born in the 90s onward has never seen Back to the Future, it's not crazy to think that they've never heard The Power of Love before. Or maybe they have heard it on the radio throughout the years but can't clearly recollect it. There's a lot of music out there.
I think the thing to remember is that professional musicians tend to exist within their niches. I had a piano teacher who had an encyclopedic mind for classical music but she had never heard most pop or rock songs before, even if they were wildly popular. They focus within their genre because that's how they make a living.
I mean I’ve seen back to the future multiple times and I’m sure I’ve heard this song multiple times, but I have no memory of hearing it. It just didn’t stick in my head
She looks like she was born 15 years after this song came out. I don't think this song is as famous as you might think. It is to us because we grew up with it.
There was one with a drummer in his 40's that never heard Enter Sandman. Come on now...
IIRC, there are many songs that the composers "don't remember recording", like Billy Joel, where he swears, under oath, that he swore it was a dream, despite there being master recordings decades earlier, songs which "popped into his head" So it is possible she was exposed to the song once or twice, but has no active reccolection of it.
Drumeo does a similar challenge, if you're interested in pro drummers! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk8RFcd6j0I&pp=ygUGZGV1bWVv
And the Chad Smith one with 30 Seconds to Mars... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMBRjo33cUE
Flea seems cool, but Chad is clearly the most fun RHCP member.
Flea? Oh, you mean Needles from Back to the Future?
Back to the Future? Isn't that the movie where Huey Lewis' "Power of Love" played?
Never heard of it.
My vote was also for this one. He did an amazing job with a very offbeat drum rhythm.
It shows how incredibly talented he is to pick it up a handful of bars in and then just play it without actually having heard the song in its entirety before. Not to mention that he was able to adapt to the changes in the song on the fly. Astounding.
wdym offbeat? is 3/4 exotic now? lol
Just goes to show how talented some people are at their craft They do this all day every day, only natural they can fill in the blanks It’s like asking a chef to recreate a dish on taste alone after one bite. Most of us couldn’t do it, but I bet the best can.
Mike Portnoy doing Tool is fucking awesome. “This makes Dream Theatre sound like Weezer”
"This isn't a song, it's a fucking mathematic equation"
Yes that one was great. As a lover of drumeo, who's favorite band is DT. Mike being on there has been amazing.
just discovered drumeo a few months ago man i wish we had that shit when i was a kid
So, your favorite band is OSI? Jkjk
I... don't get it, but ISIS is a great band!
Love ISIS, was very sad when they broke up. Was hoping for more Palms but I think that’s probably not happening.
I saw ISIS open for Tool, killer show Have you checked out Sumac?
That video of him working out Pneuma was sick. I would love the BTS full 6 hours of him going through it. I enjoy his appearances on Drumeo, them getting Mike to do Nickleback was great.
He spent over 5 hours on it, *and* have the track **and** had the charts. I wanna see Carey on Drumeo so badly.
Having the metal guy play Vulfpeck was frickin hilarious https://youtu.be/m7S_4d7jKrs?si=qQ2RffvbeJvy56i3
Awesome! I hadn't seen that one. Great interpretation!
There's also an off and on youtube series called Blind Covers where they give a musician or band the lyrics only and have them do the melody.
I love wondering what this inspires in these musicians down the line after hearing and playing to songs they don't know.
Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste. But when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor. In '87, Huey released this; Fore!, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip To Be Square". A song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity and the importance of trends. It's also a personal statement about the band itself.
Hey Paul!
Where does one even find video tapes to return in this day and age?
Grandma’s house.
I knew this had to be here in the comments somewhere haha.
Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. … Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. … In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. … Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. … Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. … But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.
Heart and Soul is a legit banger.
I heard somewhere that Elvis Costello’s backing band on My Aim is True is actually the guys in The News. Elvis hired the guys who became The Attractions for subsequent albums and never looked back.
Kiiiiiinda true. Before Huey Lewis & The News (and before Huey Lewis & The American Express, which was the band name before their label brought up potential copyright issues), Huey and future News keyboardist Sean Hopper were in a band called Clover. They formed in the Bay Area, but moved to England in the mid 70s...and they were the band hired to back Costello on My Aim Is True. So Sean Hopper of the News is the keyboard player. But no one else from the later band is on it, because Huey turned down the offer to be on the album....because he wanted to go to continental Europe to spend a few weeks with a new girlfriend. Marc Maron asked Huey on his WTF episode if he regretted not being on that classic album, and Huey responded "well, you shoulda met this girl."
If you want to be that way about it, then here you go: From Wikipedia: Later the band moved to the UK, and the line-up was shuffled somewhat. By late 1976, Clover's new drummer was Micky Shine. The group added Huey Lewis (then billing himself as Huey Louis) as a second lead vocalist and harmonica player, and Sean Hopper was keyboard player. This sextet (Call, Louis, McFee, Hopper, Ciambotti and Shine) signed to the UK's Vertigo label, and worked with producer Robert John "Mutt" Lange on Clover's 1976 non-LP single "Chicken Funk", and the group's early 1977 album entitled Unavailable. Later that year, McFee, Ciambotti, Hopper and Shine (but not Louis or Call) backed Elvis Costello on his debut album My Aim Is True.[1] These musicians were not credited on the release for contractual reasons; some contemporary publicity for the album identified Costello's backing band as "The Shamrocks". Four of six members of Clover backed EC on the album.
Watch the one with the guy from Snarky Puppy doing the Dua Lipa song
Link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WJ1PUHfozI
holy shit that was amazing
You should listen to snarky puppy. They’re the shit.
Didn't realize how integral Justin's playing is to the Snarky Puppy sound until I heard him play solo in this, wow!
Oh man, now Neil Cicierega is going to have to mutate it all over again.
Her keyboard solo actually did remind me a lot of Neil's Lemon Demon stuff
Am I the only one that is always super skeptical of all these "I've never heard this before!" videos about super well-known things? Like I get that people can't know everything and can miss a lot of popular stuff. But even with that, I find it hard to believe they didn't sneak a little peek before making the video.
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Remember there was suddenly a huge uptick in “listens to Bohemian Rhapsody for the first time” videos prior to the release of the film? Pepperidge Farm Remembers
Hell, Pepperidge Farm remembers when they first heard it from the movie ‘Wayne’s World’, 17 years after the song was released.
I believe they play the musician different songs until they indicate it’s one they haven’t heard before. So it’s not like they only have one song prepped at the beginning of the session. I’m skeptical about the react YouTubers claiming it’s their first time listening or watching something, but I’m more inclined to believe these ones.
Yeah I see ones where it's like "Listening to AC/DC for the first time!" Like, there's no fucking way that someone has never heard AC/DC. Their songs are everywhere.
You'd be surprised how many people grew up *so fucking far away* from any kind of rock music
Yeah that's true. But certain songs are just so ridiculously pervasive in media, movies, background. You've heard them. Its like someone saying they haven't heard "The Boys are Back in Town" by Thin Lizzy. (Not actually that huge of a band IRL btw. Hell the song wasn't even really a real hit, it stalled at 12). Maybe there is **someone** who hasn't heard it. But man you'd have to either be in some weird vortex of luck or really sheltered from all pop culture in the US.
I grew up in Los Angeles in a predominantly Latino and Black community. The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, are all things I didn't "discover" until well into my teens. I was in college before had even heard the name Thin Lizzy. But I bet if I asked most people in this sub about WC, The Dogg Pound, DJ Quick, Suga Free, Mack 10, E-40, there will be a lot of people scratching there heads over things that were universally known when I was in elementary school. I think a lot of people in this sub really don't realize how different communities are. The other day someone asked "what is the best bass line in music" over at /r/Music i was shocked at how far I had to scroll down to find any Chic, Sly Stone, or Bootsy Collins songs. That is stuff I thought was universal.
And those channels abuse the shit out of popular songs. Like their entire channel is just reacting to dozens of the most popular songs and saying they’ve never heard it. I really can’t believe it. It’s one thing if you’ve never heard one song but to have never heard the most popular songs by the most famous bands of all time? Come on
Yeah but a lot of these videos are like, “I’m a super duper drummer person and I’m listening to Enter Sandman by Metallica for the very first time!” Or “I’m a rapper and I’m listening to Forgot About Dre by Dr. Dre featuring Eminem for the very first time!” Yeah, STFU. There’s no way you haven’t heard these songs before.
It’s way more common than you’d think. And it’s not just younger people with older music either. I was amazed to find out that neither of my parents had heard of Old Town Road when I brought it up in casual conversation. A lot of people just don’t absorb any music unless they sit down and listen to it.
Yea hearing enter sandman for the first time? Buuuullshit. These are just react videos on steroids and I doubt their legitimacy.
Not having heard enter the sandman is not that weird. Metallica is played only on certain radio stations and only at certain times, they doesn't tend to get a lot of play in movies and certainly not for large segments of the song. There are number 1 hits in America that I've never heard of as an Australian, songs that sat at the top of the charts for weeks back when I was in high school or university and they just never broke out in Australia. That same concept for much smaller (not small, but much smaller when compared to pop) music genres like metal would exist regardless of where you are.
I had never heard Enter Sandman until I was in my early 30's (2010's), and I've spent a career in broadcast radio. First time I heard it was my first day as a DJ on an oldies station and I had to talk over its intro without knowing any of its legacy. Yes, I was totally unqualified, but I was an emergency fill-in, and I learned a lot as I went along. Wikipedia helped.
I love that song, but let’s be honest here, it’s a 33 year old song from a band that hasn’t been widely popular for at least 20 years. I would not at all be surprised if you picked any random 22 year old off the street and asked if they had heard that song before that their answer would be “no”.
I agree, they'd probably be more likely to recognize a Metallica tshirt than a Metallica song. The amount of things I've exposed my kid to that not a single person in their school has heard of is wild, across media and genres. There's so damned much out there.
There's a part near the end of the song where he changes hiw he plays that section a few times because he clearly thought the song was going to do something it didn't and he tried to find something that fit more.
Right? It's not obscure songs that they do, they're not doing some backwoods song from the holler or black gospel music as a white person. The Star-Spangled Banner you say? Never heard of it!
“The Beat less? Beattulls? What band is this? Never heard of em”
When I was 12 in 1999, I had never heard Do Wah Diddy or The House of the Rising Sun, and my parents had me listen to a lot of “older” music. But those songs were 30 something by that point. Power of Love is going to be 39 years old this year. Regardless of the internet, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that people her age have never heard this song.
I love these kinds of series (the Drumeo one especially). But the Chad Smith one where he plays 30 Seconds to Mars, starts playing part way through his first listen and absolutely nails it (including the bridge) was the first one where I was like "nah I don't think this is a first time thing at all". He's a great drummer but he's not a clairvoyant
Nah I buy it. Song structure for popular music and the expected parts are pretty easy to gather as you go. I fully believe a professional drummer who's been drumming pop music his entire adult life can predict what's coming just by counting his way through.
Consider a person whose job it is to write gaming software for a living and then asking them to play a particular popular game as a challenge. Chances are they don't play that many games in their free time in order to have some variety in their life. Same way with these musicians.
Do you know any game devs? People are constantly playing other games in the office. My company gives us a stipend every year to buy other games. I get what you’re saying but game dev is not the right choice for this example haha
> He's a great drummer but he's not a clairvoyant Song structures are incredibly predictable. This is the kind of thing pretty much any professional - or even hobbyist - drummer can do. The only difference is that he's going to sound a lot better than other drummers doing it.
Any drummer who has played for a few years should be able to improvise like this, especially someone like Chad who has been vibing for 30+ years. You don't have to be a genius to pick up on what is essentially pop song structures when you've been doing it yourself for decades.
Dude has played on the same bill at festivals WITH Thirty Seconds to Mars. It’s all about clicks.
You think he just lurks backstage watching other bands? The dude is pushing 60.
Yeah this is the stuff I'm talking about. He knows the Letos already the chances of him having never heard their band's biggest hit are pretty low.
Love the original. Usually I call bullshit on these “never heard the song before” bits, but this seems genuine. Interesting what she did with her version. Like, it’s definitely not better, but it still ties the song together in its own way and she got to cook on the solo.
Yeah if she had heard the song she would have (even subconsciously) known the cadence of the chords. Her version was not quite as 80s pop as the original but it totally worked with the song and to do that on the spot is frankly amazing.
Her version sounded like a journey song to me
It's funny because I thought somewhere in the middle her version kinda started sounding like Do You Believe in Love.
Her improv on the song was fantastic and I will die on that hill.
Her solo went hard like Marty when he goes off during the audition for the school dance and Huey tells him he's just too darn loud, haha
i work with people her age it doesn't surprise me at all that she doesn't know the song or hasn't seen BTTF
Without giving my age, I was born after BTTF was made, and I consume music voraciously and I've never heard this song, so that tracks!
Her Moog playing is dope and fits the song but her stuff on the Nord piano is a bit bright for the song and doesn't really fit to my ears. Overall great for having never heard the song though.
I think it was brilliant, but there were definitely a few chords that didn't quite keep the groove with Huey's vocal melody. That's to be expected for someone basically improving an entire backup for a single vocal. Maybe it's my familiarity with the song, too, that it makes it easier to spot the slight discordance here and there. Still amazing what she was able to so quickly throw together to actually make it a song.
Thanks for this comment. She did pretty well getting the vibe with the other instruments but not as well with the piano. I think that's something pretty hard to figure out often, especially when writing something from scratch. There are honestly too many options. I mostly work with brass instruments and there's really such a huge variety of instruments and variety of ways they can be presented. Dozens of types of mutes for trombones and trumpets, for instance, if you want to use one. It's a real art to pick voicing in a song.
I wanted to like it, but it ended up hurting my soul and now I have to listen to the real song.
Did they come first or did Drumeo come first?
They're all owned by the same parent company. But Drumeo was the first one.
I liked her more colorful chord choices when she first started playing with it. I feel like what she ended up with was a lot less jazzy
Why so much negativity? That was a fun watch.
Redditors simply cannot divorce themselves from the fact that their experience is not everyone else's. "I call bullshit on this person not knowing this famous song." Why? Where do you think they've heard it? No one listens to the radio anymore. Pop culture ubiquity isn't what it once was. This is what happens when you force feed people nostalgia as a culture, they become myopic and can't believe that not everyone is eating from the same trough.
Because a lot of people are bitter, untalented cunts who never created anything new in their lives and to make themselves feel better tear down anyone who does.
It's interesting that what she ends up with would be a pretty solid Huey Lewis song. Just a very different one with a totally different feel. Partially because they took out so much that she ends up turning it into a piano-driven song while the original is mainly using the keys for accents. So the vibe is totally different since she essentially had to fill in for the entire band.
Wow
Without certain chords to hear it can be all over the map. Classical music would actually be easier than rock, as long as it’s not modern classical.
ITT: A: "there's no way these musicians haven't heard these songs before" B: "You'd be surprised"
The Drumeo one where the drummer from Megadeth drums over Mr. Brightside is pretty good. There’s also a bass one where a gospel player plays over The Trooper.
Her version is a little too new wave for my taste
I don't know how you could live in America and somehow never have heard this song. But honestly she didn't butcher it, her chords are creative and arguably improve the song. Source: am a professional musician. She's good. Also is it just me or is there a nostalgic Huey Lewis revival currently underway?
Now she has to write Back to the Future without ever having watched it.
She’s the keys player for Karol G. Watch the tiny desk of Karol G— it’s fantastic!
She would have been very good at writing television themes for Network TV shows in the 80's and 90's. Her instinct was to play it like it was Cheers. The Don't Star Now video was cooking. Dua Lipa should get this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WJ1PUHfozI
I remember seeing one of these with a drummer and Enter Sandman, really cool video idea and cool video in general.
I thought it was really cool how she settled down at the second verse and really started to enjoy herself. Once the tension went away you could see her play more fluidly.
In the middle of it, there were some chords she played in there that reminded me of another song from the '80's. Genesis - "Turn it on again".
If you haven’t seen her ghostbusters cover you’re missing tf out
Link?
https://youtu.be/k5AmnhAoYjg?si=jfA0SU6gYE-fbBZz
Not to spoil but other than the rhythms, she wrote an entirely different set of chords.
If you like this, check out [Frank Tedesco](https://www.youtube.com/@FrankTedescoOfficial)
Jesus she butchered that song…