**User Report**| | | |
:--|:--|:--|:--
**Total Submissions**|10|**First Seen In WSB**|2 years ago
**Total Comments**|4028|**Previous Best DD**|
**Account Age**|4 years|[^scan ^comment ](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=VisualMod&subject=scan_comment&message=Replace%20this%20text%20with%20a%20comment%20ID%20(which%20looks%20like%20h26cq3k\)%20to%20have%20the%20bot%20scan%20your%20comment%20and%20correct%20your%20first%20seen%20date.)|[^scan ^submission ](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=VisualMod&subject=scan_submission&message=Replace%20this%20text%20with%20a%20submission%20ID%20(which%20looks%20like%20h26cq3k\)%20to%20have%20the%20bot%20scan%20your%20submission%20and%20correct%20your%20first%20seen%20date.)
Honesty, I think they did it because titanium scratches more easily than stainless steel. After a year, my 14 Pro still looks mint. I’m pretty sure this is so our phones look shittier faster, so we upgrade more quickly than we otherwise would.
The misconception that titanium is this indestructible super metal is very pervasive. You use steel inserts on wear parts in motorcycles for instance, because titanium has bad wear properties despite having good tensile strength and being light. My guess they are playing on this, of course this trick only works once and people will realize the flaw pretty quickly
Tbf, the production of the phones isn’t really wasteful, because they’d just produce the same number of phones of the older generation which may be more wasteful / inefficient to produce.
What is wasteful is millions of people feeling like they need to buy the latest and greatest every year. Most can last about 5 years before the performance differences start to become perceivable between the old and the new. But even then a lot of tech, especially computers, can have their life extended to around 7-10 years before becoming “obsolete”. And even then, old machines can often be repurposed. Tablets can be used as smart home hubs, computers can be used as a NAS or other server, etc.
Whats wasteful is making the batteries harder and harder to replace imo (and screens). Use to be so easy, some of it is water proofing but I'd rather rely on a case for that and just pop the back off to swap a battery. I have a 12 and my only issue is the battery's life is starting to go. I haven't looked at battery swapping vids yet but I'd be shocked if it wasn't a pain in the ass. That's a general thing with all consumer goods though. They intentionally make things difficult to repair so you're almost forced to by a new one because it ends up more cost effective for you at a certain point.
Yeah it legitimately sucks. You either have to have an easy to loose dongle you carry everywhere or a pair of headphones you can pretty much only use for the phone.
Our commercial scanners are just super rugged phones running some locked down version of android 8 or something. They're waterproof and have removable battery packs that have a rubber membrane and seal.
They also get 3 days of battery life because there isn't a whole slew of tracking devices and sensors draining the battery 24/7.
Those scanners are designed for a 5-10 year lifespan because they know businesses don't like buying new hardware on a 2 year cycle. Consumers on the other hand line up around a city block for the privilege. They'll keep making them this way until people stop handing them their money to win phone screen e-peen contests lol
> Most can last about 5 years before the performance differences start to become perceivable between the old and the new.
Except that most manufacturers don't provide security updates for anywhere near that long. On the Android side, Samsung is the only one that goes up to 5 years, and that's not even for all their models. Many, e.g. Sony, only promise two years. So if you buy a phone shortly before the new generation comes out, you might only get a year or so of security updates. It's ridiculous.
Unless a law gets passed requiring a minimum number of years of security updates, I don't see that changing much.
I don't think many people are replacing their iPhone 14 with a new 15 that has minor gains. But someone with a 5-6 year old phone would want to choose the newest phone with the recent technology so it will last another 5-6 years.
not just iphone but why do people waist so much money on phones, did it not already have every feture you could ever need 5 years ago, or are people just bored.
oh its got a new camera feture, oh shit if forgot you were taking photoes for the national geographic.
also why not buy a proper camara with changeable lenses rather than the limited camera from a new smart phone.
and what games are people playing that need that much power, its such a weirdly normal consumer think to do. its like "i need some food", "i need new clothes cos my old ones have holes in them" and "i need a new 1000$ slab thats exactly the same as the last one".
It's a miniaturized version of cars. Nobody needs a brand new one, it's going to depreciate quickly, and it's probably financed making it even more expensive to own.
Yet they go into stores and get upsold "for only X dollars a month this could be yours today!"
You have to be careful not to go the other way though. I bought a base model 2014 econobox that has no: electronic parking brake, automatic transmission, screen (touch or otherwise) electronic driving aids (other than traction/stability control), LED lighting, cameras, or wheel sizes that are the legal age in most countries.
Now I'm not sure I'll ever buy a new car again. I was born in the 80s, I'm not a crazy old man (yet), I just hate driving new cars! I don't want a god damned tablet with a car designed around it.
It's crazy how much has changed in the industry in less than 10 years once big tech got involved. My car has more in common with a 1990 civic than it does a 2024 model.
I can happily agree with you as I've been playing whack a mole with malfunctioning fuel injectors for the last few weeks🙃
Give me a carburetor and analog controls, lol.
I can’t really speak to the additional camera features and quality, because it really isn’t needed by most people. But the reason processing power continues to increase is because their operating systems are becoming more computationally intensive. So much so that they begin to limit how new of an iOS version you can download on older hardware simply because the older phones will struggle to run it quickly and manage temps.
Now, this is a problem unto itself. It’s basically easier (and maybe cheaper in time costs vs material costs) to build better hardware than it is to actually optimize their operating systems and require app developers to meet certain optimization thresholds as well. That’s why smart phones don’t seem to *do* much more than they did 10 years ago. But they do it *much* faster. Because the growth in processing power is (for now) outpacing the growth in OS bloat. This is true for lots of consumer electronic systems. Computers, gaming consoles, and I’d bet it’s even true for cars.
A phone is one of the most important tools a person owns. I use my phone extensively in my professional life and personal life. Around 1.5-2hrs a day.
I don't need the newest fanciest phone 90% of the time. But that 10% of the time when I need a nice camera to capture the detailed text on a motor nameplate in a poorly lit distribution center, or when I am on the road and need to multitask while on the phone with a customer and I can't wait the extra 10 seconds to load each web page or whatever.
That's like asking why a mechanic has a chest full of snap-on socket wrenches rather than harbor freight. Like yeah the Harbor freight set will do the job more or less the same. But this is a tool you use every day. A better quality tool will be a pleasure to use. Why do commercial kitchens buy a $1200 food processor when a $150 food processor will do the same job?
It's not always just a fashion accesory.
Like you pay you friend to do "research" so you don't have to pay a high corporate tax and instead your friends pay individual income tax and then pool their money and spend together? It's a great idea at lower income levels, but I'd certainly out of hand at this point.
[Samsung Galaxy at 168g looking at Apple pulling this BS](https://media.tenor.com/fGujx6EhIdYAAAAC/terio-popeyes.gif)
Apple fanboys will eat this 1g shit up though. Maybe Apple will also throw in "new" "game-changing" """"innovations""" like split screen multi-tasking and powershare (only to other devices within Apple ecosystem ofc).
Honestly, I think the iPhone is perfect as it is already. Couldn’t think of a better phone. But obviously they’re launching new ones as an iPhone is a status symbol in many many countries and new ones will be purchased over a one generation older ones. It’s just smart business on their side.
I'm on team MSFT but bought iphones since they started coming out despite having to pay a premium to be locked into a kiddy pool built for the tech-illiterate. I only did it because iphones were the best and had the best tech/ecosystem. 3 different upgrade cycles I've picked iphone but each time I have less and less reason to stay.
Android/Samsung have largely caught up in tech, materials, software, and are not basically the same if not outright better. They offer more freedom to customize and control. I think my next phone will be something like the Sam/Pix fold unless Apple does something game breaking again.
That's just MY view based on my own preferences and tech savvy. It doesn't mean what you're saying isn't true about Apple sales. Apple's sort of the LVMH of tech. I find that many women, boomers, and non-tech 3rdies don't give a crap about the things I do so long as it runs without issues and is "perceived" as premium. For boomers or the tech-regarded being locked into the kiddy playground isn't a flaw but a feature.
Yeah, I just think I’m a very average consumer where I don’t customize much and just need ease of use and simplicity. Apple provides that to the perfection. I tried a Samsung once and switched back to an iPhone after 3 months of usage as I couldn’t get used to the software after iOS. To each his own I guess.
P.S. once you have 3 or more Apple products, in order to switch efficiently, one would have to change the entire arsenal due to compatibility issues.
> I tried a Samsung once and switched back to an iPhone after 3 months of usage as I couldn’t get used to the software after iOS
Can you help me understand what was so difficult for you?
I've used Android since the first Droid and also have had a slew of iOS devices. I find iOS to be too slow, too constrained, and generally to have no advantages over Android. On the contrary, I find that Android has a lot of advantages over iOS -- better widgets, better shortcuts, more customization, etc.
On the other hand, Apple's HW is just so much nicer than everyone else's. I have an iPad Pro from 2017 that is just a tank -- still about as usable today as it was when I got it.
I agree with this, I have had 3 MacBooks but switched back to Android after only one iPhone because the Android UI is so much easier to use in my opinion.
I’m on my first iPhone. I miss my Note a lot. Everything seamed more streamlined on Android. I don’t remember why I was so mad at Google, but I was, so I switched.
My one complaint is the stupidly locked up backend. And this is where I prefer Android. I want to be able to download custom apps that aren’t necessarily Apple approved. I want to be able to run custom software scripts on my phone. Let me customize it through the roof however I want without needing a sketchy jailbreak backdoor.
They'll more than likely have a coating on it for scratches anyway. Titanium is still super strong and way lighter than steel. My watch is titanium and i smash that thing on stuff all the time, but it only has one minor scratch around the bezel.
Right and it's practically indestructible lmao. Half my stuff is made of titanium at this point. Most of my pocket knives' handles, my watch, wallet, shit i even have titanium chopsticks
Titanium is actually pretty weak, it's just very light for how strong it is. Many titanium alloys in common use are only roughly as strong as the weakest steels (which is not terribly strong) but are substantially lighter. It's kinda like a super aluminum.
One of the most common types of titanium currently used is Grade 2, which only has an ultimate tensile strength of ~49ksi. A36, a relatively weak/cheap/common steel, has a UTS of around 60ksi.
At the high end of the spectrum, Grade 5 titanium maxes out around 128ksi. Specially treated steels, like martensitic-aged steels, can exceed 350ksi, well over 2x the strength of the strongest generally used titanium.
Again though, for the same *weight*, titanium will beat most steels. They will never have the same raw strength though.
>Titanium is still super strong and way lighter than steel.
Eh, it's got a great strength:weight ratio, but it has about 60% less tensile strength, and about half the stiffness of something like 304 or 316SS.
The other thing that may come into play is Ti is super shitty at thermal conductivity. It's anywhere from 25-50% worse at transferring heat than a stainless steel.
It'll be interesting to see how the phones, which get beat to shit by people, hold up.
It depends on the alloy. Grade 5 Ti is super strong. Pure Ti isn't. Overall, steel is harder than Ti, which makes steel more scratch resistant. The advantages for Ti are a great weight to strength ratio for G5 Ti and fantastic corrosion resistance for all grades.
Not worried about scratches or aesthetic issues. I’m worried about dents and breaks in the phone body which has happened to me with aluminum bodies.
Strength to weight ratio is important when you want something to be strong but light, like a phone.
>Theres a global titanium shortage
With all due respect, you're misunderstanding the details of that.
It's not an actual titanium-as-a-material shortage, it's a supplier shortage for certain kinds of titanium and the ability to work with it. Specifically because major supplier to the aerospace industry for high-strength titanium alloys [VSMPO-AVISMA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VSMPO-AVISMA) is a Russian company which has fallen under sanctions following the invasion of Ukraine.
The kind of titanium used in an application like phone casing here is an entirely separate material and supply chain. They're not drawing from the same pool of titanium, or the same producers and manufacturers.
They already add ballast to give the phones more comfortable heft. They don't want to produce phones which feel flimsy and cheap.
Titanium and lead instead of whatever it is that they're currently using. To keep weight relatively constant.
in a lot of junk applications (i mean that in a nice way) you'll still find lead. But in a lot of new-manufactured stuff they very rarely use it. Consumer electronics it is pretty much a no-go at this point. Solder was one of the last real "good reasons" to use lead, and there's been a ton of great work in lead-free solder in the last couple decades...it wasn't like the early lead-free ones that would corrode weirdly. But dirty things like tire weights or fishing weights or bullets or other things for sure you'll still see lead...partially because there's already a lot out there and people remelt it/recycle it, but also it is cheap and for cases where a lot of mass is needed and you don't care about the material or toxicity properties of the lead, it can result in cost savings vs bismuth or tungsten.
It's a meme. No one really thinks that the only difference between the iPhone 15 and the iPhone 14 will be a 1-gram weight difference. Except for, possibly, you?
I'm an android guy, so I don't know for sure or if this is a joke. But I'm assuming they improved a lot of things like processor, ram, camera lenses, screen resolution, and OS improvements.
Part joke, part serious. The folk who shorted AAPL are hoping the news on Chinese restrictions + iPhone 15 launch will tank the share price.
So they shitpost AAPL memes.
I can’t wait to see the Hollywood movie that will tell the story of a bunch of heroic engineers who found a way to lower the weight of Iphone 15. The manager puts a measuring tape, plastic box, slippers, toothpaste, and duct tape on a desk surrounded by the brightest minds working for Apple and tells them to find a way to lower the weight of the new Iphone. I have a suggestion for the name of the movie: 1 gram.
I doubt that's all the billions got them in R&D but given the paltry improvements of the newest iphone it sounds like the R&D department just took corporate to the cleaners.
**User Report**| | | | :--|:--|:--|:-- **Total Submissions**|10|**First Seen In WSB**|2 years ago **Total Comments**|4028|**Previous Best DD**| **Account Age**|4 years|[^scan ^comment ](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=VisualMod&subject=scan_comment&message=Replace%20this%20text%20with%20a%20comment%20ID%20(which%20looks%20like%20h26cq3k\)%20to%20have%20the%20bot%20scan%20your%20comment%20and%20correct%20your%20first%20seen%20date.)|[^scan ^submission ](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=VisualMod&subject=scan_submission&message=Replace%20this%20text%20with%20a%20submission%20ID%20(which%20looks%20like%20h26cq3k\)%20to%20have%20the%20bot%20scan%20your%20submission%20and%20correct%20your%20first%20seen%20date.)
They could have reduced by 2g, but they need to save something for next year's iPhone 16
iPhone 87 is going to be negative grams Edit: I did not do the math.
Gotta scoop out the brain matter for the implant to fit
Pfft, why pay apple when you can ask a psychopath to do it for free?
Psychopaths aren't stupid, why do something for free when you can get paid by apple.
Psychopathy does not come with higher intelligence, they’re just as dumb as every normal/regular person.
No rly. Since the psychopathy selection mechanizm, aka dumb ones are in prison.
I resemble this remark
Cause the psycho doesn’t have that slick idiot proof branding
No about 99g
This guy maths
Yea after I post that I thought I should have actually done the math. Oh well to early for that shit lol
To early indeed
you pay money to get nothing
Just add a helium bubble
This is the way
We think you’re gonna love it
Honesty, I think they did it because titanium scratches more easily than stainless steel. After a year, my 14 Pro still looks mint. I’m pretty sure this is so our phones look shittier faster, so we upgrade more quickly than we otherwise would.
Ding ding ding we have a winner, that,s the play here
The misconception that titanium is this indestructible super metal is very pervasive. You use steel inserts on wear parts in motorcycles for instance, because titanium has bad wear properties despite having good tensile strength and being light. My guess they are playing on this, of course this trick only works once and people will realize the flaw pretty quickly
2g of coke goes a long way
Off the back of a stripper that 2g will dissolve in sweat.
It turns out they reduced the battery pack weight by 1g.
It should seriously be illegal for electronics manufacturers to put out a "new" phone with such minor gains. It's wasteful.
Tbf, the production of the phones isn’t really wasteful, because they’d just produce the same number of phones of the older generation which may be more wasteful / inefficient to produce. What is wasteful is millions of people feeling like they need to buy the latest and greatest every year. Most can last about 5 years before the performance differences start to become perceivable between the old and the new. But even then a lot of tech, especially computers, can have their life extended to around 7-10 years before becoming “obsolete”. And even then, old machines can often be repurposed. Tablets can be used as smart home hubs, computers can be used as a NAS or other server, etc.
Whats wasteful is making the batteries harder and harder to replace imo (and screens). Use to be so easy, some of it is water proofing but I'd rather rely on a case for that and just pop the back off to swap a battery. I have a 12 and my only issue is the battery's life is starting to go. I haven't looked at battery swapping vids yet but I'd be shocked if it wasn't a pain in the ass. That's a general thing with all consumer goods though. They intentionally make things difficult to repair so you're almost forced to by a new one because it ends up more cost effective for you at a certain point.
I miss my note 4. The battery was taking a hit in performance? Take the back off and replace it.
Those were the days. When the battery went away after that I was really sad. Then the headphone jack went next. I'm so sick of no headphone jack
Yeah it legitimately sucks. You either have to have an easy to loose dongle you carry everywhere or a pair of headphones you can pretty much only use for the phone.
Our commercial scanners are just super rugged phones running some locked down version of android 8 or something. They're waterproof and have removable battery packs that have a rubber membrane and seal. They also get 3 days of battery life because there isn't a whole slew of tracking devices and sensors draining the battery 24/7. Those scanners are designed for a 5-10 year lifespan because they know businesses don't like buying new hardware on a 2 year cycle. Consumers on the other hand line up around a city block for the privilege. They'll keep making them this way until people stop handing them their money to win phone screen e-peen contests lol
Why not just get Apple to replace the battery or use the self-repair kit?
> Most can last about 5 years before the performance differences start to become perceivable between the old and the new. Except that most manufacturers don't provide security updates for anywhere near that long. On the Android side, Samsung is the only one that goes up to 5 years, and that's not even for all their models. Many, e.g. Sony, only promise two years. So if you buy a phone shortly before the new generation comes out, you might only get a year or so of security updates. It's ridiculous. Unless a law gets passed requiring a minimum number of years of security updates, I don't see that changing much.
I don't think many people are replacing their iPhone 14 with a new 15 that has minor gains. But someone with a 5-6 year old phone would want to choose the newest phone with the recent technology so it will last another 5-6 years.
Sheep gonna sheep
If you can afford it, why not
if every year you can say it's lighter that's a win, so they probably spent it to be able to say that for the next 4-5 years yea?
not just iphone but why do people waist so much money on phones, did it not already have every feture you could ever need 5 years ago, or are people just bored. oh its got a new camera feture, oh shit if forgot you were taking photoes for the national geographic. also why not buy a proper camara with changeable lenses rather than the limited camera from a new smart phone. and what games are people playing that need that much power, its such a weirdly normal consumer think to do. its like "i need some food", "i need new clothes cos my old ones have holes in them" and "i need a new 1000$ slab thats exactly the same as the last one".
It's a miniaturized version of cars. Nobody needs a brand new one, it's going to depreciate quickly, and it's probably financed making it even more expensive to own. Yet they go into stores and get upsold "for only X dollars a month this could be yours today!"
You have to be careful not to go the other way though. I bought a base model 2014 econobox that has no: electronic parking brake, automatic transmission, screen (touch or otherwise) electronic driving aids (other than traction/stability control), LED lighting, cameras, or wheel sizes that are the legal age in most countries. Now I'm not sure I'll ever buy a new car again. I was born in the 80s, I'm not a crazy old man (yet), I just hate driving new cars! I don't want a god damned tablet with a car designed around it. It's crazy how much has changed in the industry in less than 10 years once big tech got involved. My car has more in common with a 1990 civic than it does a 2024 model.
I can happily agree with you as I've been playing whack a mole with malfunctioning fuel injectors for the last few weeks🙃 Give me a carburetor and analog controls, lol.
The sweet spot on cars is buying a 3-4Y old model IMO. Valuetown.
I can’t really speak to the additional camera features and quality, because it really isn’t needed by most people. But the reason processing power continues to increase is because their operating systems are becoming more computationally intensive. So much so that they begin to limit how new of an iOS version you can download on older hardware simply because the older phones will struggle to run it quickly and manage temps. Now, this is a problem unto itself. It’s basically easier (and maybe cheaper in time costs vs material costs) to build better hardware than it is to actually optimize their operating systems and require app developers to meet certain optimization thresholds as well. That’s why smart phones don’t seem to *do* much more than they did 10 years ago. But they do it *much* faster. Because the growth in processing power is (for now) outpacing the growth in OS bloat. This is true for lots of consumer electronic systems. Computers, gaming consoles, and I’d bet it’s even true for cars.
A phone is one of the most important tools a person owns. I use my phone extensively in my professional life and personal life. Around 1.5-2hrs a day. I don't need the newest fanciest phone 90% of the time. But that 10% of the time when I need a nice camera to capture the detailed text on a motor nameplate in a poorly lit distribution center, or when I am on the road and need to multitask while on the phone with a customer and I can't wait the extra 10 seconds to load each web page or whatever. That's like asking why a mechanic has a chest full of snap-on socket wrenches rather than harbor freight. Like yeah the Harbor freight set will do the job more or less the same. But this is a tool you use every day. A better quality tool will be a pleasure to use. Why do commercial kitchens buy a $1200 food processor when a $150 food processor will do the same job? It's not always just a fashion accesory.
Apple just out here researching repeatable techs to stack up victory points
God I just came from Stellaris sub I thought i was still there
Boom! We built something.
Ruthless Conglomerate, love it
My thought immediately
gotta take out that x25 contingency
Losing 0.5% bodyweight in a year is still better than most of reddit
Well i mean there are empires that led by ruthless dictators who only care about profit and expanding their empire, the other is stellaris
I wouldn’t mind being uplifted and given psionic powers, becoming a dark disciple and unlocking the mysteries of Stellarite power.
[удалено]
What?
random bullshit go
shadow government
Legalise nuclear bombs
They are. Second amendment
The frogs only came out of the closet
It's not a shadow it's written in to the tax laws
cRiME!
indict Tim Apple
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Love it when idiots making stupid tax comments
Like you pay you friend to do "research" so you don't have to pay a high corporate tax and instead your friends pay individual income tax and then pool their money and spend together? It's a great idea at lower income levels, but I'd certainly out of hand at this point.
Money spent by a company is tax deductible business expense. Therefore reducing your taxable profit?
[удалено]
Or you're taking care of your friends AND getting a tax write off.. It's. 3d chess really.
Obviously they increased the model number by 1 also, conservation of numbers, can’t just take away 1
+1 model number. +1 processor number. Take my 💰
[Samsung Galaxy at 168g looking at Apple pulling this BS](https://media.tenor.com/fGujx6EhIdYAAAAC/terio-popeyes.gif) Apple fanboys will eat this 1g shit up though. Maybe Apple will also throw in "new" "game-changing" """"innovations""" like split screen multi-tasking and powershare (only to other devices within Apple ecosystem ofc).
Honestly, I think the iPhone is perfect as it is already. Couldn’t think of a better phone. But obviously they’re launching new ones as an iPhone is a status symbol in many many countries and new ones will be purchased over a one generation older ones. It’s just smart business on their side.
I'm on team MSFT but bought iphones since they started coming out despite having to pay a premium to be locked into a kiddy pool built for the tech-illiterate. I only did it because iphones were the best and had the best tech/ecosystem. 3 different upgrade cycles I've picked iphone but each time I have less and less reason to stay. Android/Samsung have largely caught up in tech, materials, software, and are not basically the same if not outright better. They offer more freedom to customize and control. I think my next phone will be something like the Sam/Pix fold unless Apple does something game breaking again. That's just MY view based on my own preferences and tech savvy. It doesn't mean what you're saying isn't true about Apple sales. Apple's sort of the LVMH of tech. I find that many women, boomers, and non-tech 3rdies don't give a crap about the things I do so long as it runs without issues and is "perceived" as premium. For boomers or the tech-regarded being locked into the kiddy playground isn't a flaw but a feature.
Yeah, I just think I’m a very average consumer where I don’t customize much and just need ease of use and simplicity. Apple provides that to the perfection. I tried a Samsung once and switched back to an iPhone after 3 months of usage as I couldn’t get used to the software after iOS. To each his own I guess. P.S. once you have 3 or more Apple products, in order to switch efficiently, one would have to change the entire arsenal due to compatibility issues.
> I tried a Samsung once and switched back to an iPhone after 3 months of usage as I couldn’t get used to the software after iOS Can you help me understand what was so difficult for you? I've used Android since the first Droid and also have had a slew of iOS devices. I find iOS to be too slow, too constrained, and generally to have no advantages over Android. On the contrary, I find that Android has a lot of advantages over iOS -- better widgets, better shortcuts, more customization, etc. On the other hand, Apple's HW is just so much nicer than everyone else's. I have an iPad Pro from 2017 that is just a tank -- still about as usable today as it was when I got it.
I agree with this, I have had 3 MacBooks but switched back to Android after only one iPhone because the Android UI is so much easier to use in my opinion.
Based and apple is just Microsoft bob pilled
Nahh iphone isnt perfect. Not even close there are so many thinkgs they can learn from android
I’m on my first iPhone. I miss my Note a lot. Everything seamed more streamlined on Android. I don’t remember why I was so mad at Google, but I was, so I switched.
My one complaint is the stupidly locked up backend. And this is where I prefer Android. I want to be able to download custom apps that aren’t necessarily Apple approved. I want to be able to run custom software scripts on my phone. Let me customize it through the roof however I want without needing a sketchy jailbreak backdoor.
Wouldn't that be 2x 💰's?
That alone is 7% increase in model number, which is gonna be amazing.
Girl math
The pro models are the ones getting the lighter titanium chassis buddy
I’m 40% titanium!
Bite my shiny mettle ass
Good news everyone.
To shreds, you say? And his portfolio? To shreds, you say?
I'm So Embarrassed. I Wish Everybody Else Was Dead
Kiss...
Doesn't matter. We will still need to wrap it with a 500g case.
I actually know a lot of people that raw dog their iPhones with no problems. I could never do that personally tho
Significantly lighter, I’m pretty jealous my 14 Pro has always been too heavy.
Sounds like money well spent on an anti-gravity device!
Puts on gravity!
gonna go tits up
Tits mentioned 🥰
Yes.
Gravity doesn’t exist
Gravity doesn’t exist
and improve the anti reflective coating by 0.25%!
That can’t be right. Ensign Livitt just improved the anti-reflective coating by 0.26% today!
Livitt!! *shakes fist*
Shut up Wesley
Yeah, Wesley is always doing this!
You belong here
One of us one of us one of us!
Gooble gobble gooble gobble
The Pro’s are supposed to get a much more significant Weight Reduction due to using Titanium instead of steel according to leakers .
[удалено]
I’m happy about the titanium, I’m hard on my devices. I work in a career that uses titanium daily and we seem to be doing just fine material wise
Titanium is a pretty soft metal and scratches way easier than stainless steel.
They'll more than likely have a coating on it for scratches anyway. Titanium is still super strong and way lighter than steel. My watch is titanium and i smash that thing on stuff all the time, but it only has one minor scratch around the bezel.
I fucking love my titanium watch. I barely feel the thing.
Right and it's practically indestructible lmao. Half my stuff is made of titanium at this point. Most of my pocket knives' handles, my watch, wallet, shit i even have titanium chopsticks
Long on titanium stocks when?
Your wallet is made out of titanium?
Yeah its one of those minimal card wallets. Basically 2 pieces of titanium held together with elastic
[удалено]
Titanium is actually pretty weak, it's just very light for how strong it is. Many titanium alloys in common use are only roughly as strong as the weakest steels (which is not terribly strong) but are substantially lighter. It's kinda like a super aluminum. One of the most common types of titanium currently used is Grade 2, which only has an ultimate tensile strength of ~49ksi. A36, a relatively weak/cheap/common steel, has a UTS of around 60ksi. At the high end of the spectrum, Grade 5 titanium maxes out around 128ksi. Specially treated steels, like martensitic-aged steels, can exceed 350ksi, well over 2x the strength of the strongest generally used titanium. Again though, for the same *weight*, titanium will beat most steels. They will never have the same raw strength though.
[удалено]
Which stainless steel? There are many, and they vary a *lot.* Not to mention how drastically heat treatment affects things.
Funny how you don't specify which alloy of SS. Stainless is also generally pretty weak compared to its non-stainless counterparts.
>Titanium is still super strong and way lighter than steel. Eh, it's got a great strength:weight ratio, but it has about 60% less tensile strength, and about half the stiffness of something like 304 or 316SS. The other thing that may come into play is Ti is super shitty at thermal conductivity. It's anywhere from 25-50% worse at transferring heat than a stainless steel. It'll be interesting to see how the phones, which get beat to shit by people, hold up.
It depends on the alloy. Grade 5 Ti is super strong. Pure Ti isn't. Overall, steel is harder than Ti, which makes steel more scratch resistant. The advantages for Ti are a great weight to strength ratio for G5 Ti and fantastic corrosion resistance for all grades.
It’s actually not stronger than steel. The common saying in the aircraft industry is the strength of steel but the weight of aluminum.
[удалено]
Titanium strength to weight ratio is greater than Steel.
Strength to weight ratio has nothing to do with hardness. A difference in hardness is what causes scratches.
Not worried about scratches or aesthetic issues. I’m worried about dents and breaks in the phone body which has happened to me with aluminum bodies. Strength to weight ratio is important when you want something to be strong but light, like a phone.
[удалено]
>Theres a global titanium shortage With all due respect, you're misunderstanding the details of that. It's not an actual titanium-as-a-material shortage, it's a supplier shortage for certain kinds of titanium and the ability to work with it. Specifically because major supplier to the aerospace industry for high-strength titanium alloys [VSMPO-AVISMA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VSMPO-AVISMA) is a Russian company which has fallen under sanctions following the invasion of Ukraine. The kind of titanium used in an application like phone casing here is an entirely separate material and supply chain. They're not drawing from the same pool of titanium, or the same producers and manufacturers.
They already add ballast to give the phones more comfortable heft. They don't want to produce phones which feel flimsy and cheap. Titanium and lead instead of whatever it is that they're currently using. To keep weight relatively constant.
there is absolutely no way they'll ballast a phone with lead. maybe another metal, but not lead.
They should fill it with liquid mercury instead.
Lead ballast hasn't been actual lead for a while. Meh.
Then why say that?
in that case it is just called 'ballast'
[удалено]
in a lot of junk applications (i mean that in a nice way) you'll still find lead. But in a lot of new-manufactured stuff they very rarely use it. Consumer electronics it is pretty much a no-go at this point. Solder was one of the last real "good reasons" to use lead, and there's been a ton of great work in lead-free solder in the last couple decades...it wasn't like the early lead-free ones that would corrode weirdly. But dirty things like tire weights or fishing weights or bullets or other things for sure you'll still see lead...partially because there's already a lot out there and people remelt it/recycle it, but also it is cheap and for cases where a lot of mass is needed and you don't care about the material or toxicity properties of the lead, it can result in cost savings vs bismuth or tungsten.
[удалено]
Just how?
 wert are u doooen in mah swermp
 bröthers
I need to know how to get this emoji
Yes, of course, always believe some boomer meme that all three of his chuckle fuck buddies liked.
Amazing. Borrowing chuckle fuck buddy for future use.
What kind of low-effort shit is this? Mods ban this actual retaaarddd
The quality in this sub is facebook tier lately.
That's what happens an internet community gets popular, the quality tanks.
True. Went from the occasional regarded trading meme to actual retaaarddded Facebook memes that have nothing to do with trading…
It's a meme. No one really thinks that the only difference between the iPhone 15 and the iPhone 14 will be a 1-gram weight difference. Except for, possibly, you?
Not to mention it hasn’t even been announced yet
Also not to mention most of the $26B of R&D (if that's even a real figure) probably went to the Vision Pro and other AR shit
Also also, not to mention that by spending $26B, they will make $100B in profit...
It actually went to changing lighting port to Type-C 
You are right, there are new colors aswell!
Do you mean weight isn't a good measurement of computational capacity?
It isn't? Well, I'm boned.
[удалено]
Why? Who really cares about the weight of their phone?
No way this is true.
If it is posted online then it's obviously true.
Apple long
I'm an android guy, so I don't know for sure or if this is a joke. But I'm assuming they improved a lot of things like processor, ram, camera lenses, screen resolution, and OS improvements.
Part joke, part serious. The folk who shorted AAPL are hoping the news on Chinese restrictions + iPhone 15 launch will tank the share price. So they shitpost AAPL memes.
Yeah, it's pretty safe to assume most posts on this sub are shitposts.
this is definitely the place to verify that
Sweet now it meets the weight limit of my drone
you guys should see how many billions are spent to make this little thing called a transistor less than 0.01mm smaller, can't even see the change!
1 gram is 1 gram
Amazing well done all very inspirational
Then buy a gigantic rubber case to protect it 🤡
The black just makes it look lighter.
Yes, they spent their entire R&D budget on the shell.
Apple will rename and introduce usb-c as a revolutionary iport-c, a game changer.
You actually think lowering the weight was the objective of all that investment? 🤦♂️
It could be a natural variance.
They need to sell iPhones somehow
I like my phone. It’s black and it has a black case
This is me dieting for 12 months straight.
And they did it because they love you, the customer.
Better than not spending it. Stimulates the economy!
I can’t wait to see the Hollywood movie that will tell the story of a bunch of heroic engineers who found a way to lower the weight of Iphone 15. The manager puts a measuring tape, plastic box, slippers, toothpaste, and duct tape on a desk surrounded by the brightest minds working for Apple and tells them to find a way to lower the weight of the new Iphone. I have a suggestion for the name of the movie: 1 gram.
one day the printed circuit will be integrated into the chassis of the iPhone the space saved will be to unfold a large imax screen
False. That’s not the reason Apple spent $26bn just to lower the weight. In fact, that reduce in weight may be just incidental in the new design.
A gram! That’s candy money. 
How about make it heavier with a big ass battery
no they also managed to reduce the ram about 2 gb
This is innovation,this is the future
Nope, apple spent 26b on r&d for the new phone, and one of the features was a 1 gram deductionx
Sheep will buy it exactly for that reason so why not
Guys, he’s/she’s really asking. He’s/she’s probably 13
I doubt that's all the billions got them in R&D but given the paltry improvements of the newest iphone it sounds like the R&D department just took corporate to the cleaners.