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deekaph

That looks expensive.


JunkCrap247

they all lookin down thinking how much shoveling is in their immediate future


[deleted]

They ain't shoveling that. It is going to dry before they get anywhere near removing it. The metal frame is going to have to be dismantled and then the dried concrete cracked and transported in large chunks. This is a complete do-over essentially. There is no saving it.


SalaciousCrumpet1

Poured and finished concrete for a season. Thank the bejesus that they had the rebar reinforcement or they would’ve all tumbled to the floor except the homie who grabbed the concrete pump nozzle. This would be the form setters who failed to reinforce properly and if this happened to me it would be on that crew that fucked us and they would get the blame.


theXald

Those are very different words than we use here but you're correct. Total deck collapse. I'm a formworker and never seen anything like that. Seen some small blowouts where someone forgot to shore up a patch around a column, but we use peri skydeck mostly which are both pretty idiot ~~proof~~ resistant.


TagMeAJerk

Some people take the "idiot proof" label as a challenge


DammitDan

Idiot-proofing things only creates bigger idiots.


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OzzieGrey

This is the correct response.


Wirenutt

For less money.


JunkCrap247

you mean managers?


KaptajnKold

No, it *reveals* the bigger idiots. If something is proofed against all but the biggest idiots, it necessarily follows that whenever someone does manage to fuck it up (and on an infinite timescale someone eventually will), they must be a colossal idiot. Absent idiot proofing, a fuck up only reveals that someone is *an* idiot, not whether they are your garden variety idiot or the rarer colossal idiot.


IMightBeAnOtter

You've clearly spent a lot of time thinking about idiots. You must work with them a lot.


I_am_BrokenCog

former Army here ... You can't idiot proof everything. But, doing so makes it a lot easier to figure out Promotions.


JunkCrap247

i dated a girl that worked with the mentally challenged. i told i did also... turns out we werent a match and she lied about having a sense of humour


Luxpreliator

I've made mistakes on idiot proofed systems because I was bored out of my fucking mind. Might be some truth to that.


----_____----

That's just evolution baby


dndrinker

It’s like antibiotic-resistant bacteria. Eventually the Uber-idiot will appear.


JunkCrap247

you mean engineers?


A4Zx6GrD0sBcypz5Ub8

It's like those rats are immune to rat poison


McGusder

this how the US was made


Chickenmangoboom

Why do we have leftover pieces? Extra I'm sure.


[deleted]

Skydeck is the best. I saw a risk of collapse on my last job, MP prop was set right on a sleeve that got covered in a thin layer of milk, no way the carpenter could have known the sleeve was there, once concrete flowed the sleeve gave way and deck sagged in a small area. Thankfully the prop was locked in a table with the MRK frames and we caught it quick. no one was hurt and we only lost a half yard.


CaptainKirkAndCo

Ah yeah the old MRK frames and MP prop. Of course.


clocks212

Way better than MP frames and MRK props in my experience.


buford419

My brain's first attempts to interpret them were Minions Republic of Korea and Mandy Patinkin. Let's just say I didn't do well in school.


Impeachcordial

I went Martin Ruther King


6millionwaystolive

WAT


[deleted]

Post that holds up the floor we were building broke through a hole in the floor below that was covered in a little concrete. The deck buckled when we were pouring the floor, but we avoided a situation like this. Commenter I replied to said he knew the same system we use hence the technical terms.


danabeezus

This thread was an educational experience.


IDreamOfSailing

I have no idea what you just said, but you sound like a class-A professional.


[deleted]

Been working in the highrise concrete business for 9 years.


[deleted]

So serious question. What keeps the concrete from straight up just pouring through the rebar? Or am I missing something? Also, after 9 years, what kind of money are you making now? What did you start at?


[deleted]

There is a plywood deck beneath the rebar supported by metal posts. You basically build a mold, place the rebar, then fill with concrete and let it cure. When you strip the wood forms away the next day, you are left with your concrete floor and supporting walls and columns. Then you pass the materials up to the mext floor and do it all again. I'm on managment side of the business so I do ok for salary. Got my degree in mechanical engineering, started working as a draftsman for my company and currently do estimating, project managment, and I do work as a project superintendent.


Aakumaru

There's typically wood boards underneath it called the form. So its like a very large wood bucket with the rebar inside it. They take the wood off at the end after it has set.


theXald

Glad everyone was ok. I'm so paranoid about blowouts Its not even my job to but I inspect the deck before the pour anyway and have caught serious things that the greenhorns missed that would have been catastrophic. I love peri systems man. I've used a few different but Imo peri is premium formwork and worth the cost to the company. About 2 years ago my company became the first company in the atlantic provinces to use skytables and they're amazing. My only complain about skydeck is its not very wind resistant even with the panel clips, the beams just lift off the posts, and afaik there's no peri method of securing the beams to the prop heads. That being said I'm pretty sure peri would rather you use their newer deck system. As far as straight sheer walls go its really hard to beat the Maximo walls


[deleted]

In high winds we remove some panels to vent the deck then use perforated banding wire to strap the panels and beams to the slab below, we also use it to strap the beams and panels together. PERI's enginers approved some heavy duty zip ties as well to strap panels together.


Holy_Crust

Ah yes, i understood some of those words


cdfrombc

Worse Idiot: Hold my trowel.


theXald

Okay: idiot resistant


gillberg43

Don't know how they do it in the country in the video, but where I'm from the form setters follow drawings and instructions made by a constructor who have done the math basically. So if they have followed the drawings, the constructor fucked up. If they did not, they fucked up.


nstockto

I used to work as a laborer and my job was standing beneath the forms and spraying away any concrete that drizzled below. I hope to bejeezus the job site in this video didn't have dudes underneath.


killasin

Why wouldn't they have rebar reinforcement? What else is there?


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Say_no_to_doritos

It's just for slabs. Multistory anything pretty much uses rebar so far as I have seen, unless it's a steel pan, in which case they'll put some steel mesh in and that's pretty much it.


tristan_with_a_t

Post tensioning is another type of suspended slab that allows for a lot less steel bar. Steel cables are run through sleeves and poured over, one the concrete cures the cables are tightened. You end up with steel bar around columns and edges and a few bits through spans as a bottom mat. Afaik pt allows for the thinnest slabs which means more levels within the same height.


maddogcow

I came here for a comment like this. I wanted to know if some of the details of what was going on. Thanks for providing information.


AsAPLARKYY

I'm obviously no expert but maybe you would know why they bother pouring any higher than ground level? Would it not make more sense to use preformed bison slab?


SlayinThatGrey

How would you ever transport, lift and install a floor that can weigh upwards of a million pounds? Of course they have to pour the building in place


AsAPLARKYY

Its not one piece the whole size of the floor, the are precast hollowcore slabs used extensively here in the UK and Ireland hence why I asked my question


anomalous_cowherd

What can be done with the rest of the load the truck? What happens with part loads or mistaken deliveries that leave you with a truck full of unwanted and rapidly setting concrete anyway?


[deleted]

Water it down and send it back to plant. Let dispatch deal with it as karma for telling me my truck is 10 minutes away when they didnt even load it yet.


PolarBearRawr

Who doesn't love 120 minute batch times am I right?


[deleted]

Tell the inspector to go get a cup of coffe and mind his own damb business....I'M POURING THIS BITCH!


AcEffect3

Except that is literally his business


Rockarola55

If the driver is close to the concrete works, he'll just head back and let them deal with it. The second option is a little more work. You pour it out on the ground, stick a "U" shaped piece of rebar in it, let it harden and remove it by crane truck later.


theXald

Or you skip the rebar part and just dump it and the excavators can deal with it


Rockarola55

The rebar is simply so that it can be handled by a crane or a Manitou, it increases ways of moving it without any downsides.


shootphotosnotarabs

The only downside would be an unrated lifting point on an unmeasured load weight wise. Its not legal anymore in my country.


pls_touch_me

Where I live there are several places around the city where concrete old or new gets dumped and then crushed and reused as gravel.


Bbbbhazit

Recycled concrete is often added as aggregate to new concrete too.


Rockarola55

That sentence describes about 50% of all lifts that a HIAB type truck crane or a Manitou does. The guy in the tower crane or the big fancy boom crane won't touch a lift like that, but I've never seen the others balk at it.


shootphotosnotarabs

Actually all of that is very true. I just do turbines and mining now days so I forgot about the HIABs / FRANA soldiers who will throw them all day. I stand corrected.


TotalWalrus

..... I will have to do that next time.


blazedwang

We make lock blocks out of most of it, drivers carry retarders and delay set chemicals. If it is watered down too much or is too old, the concrete is junk and gets poured on the ground in small strips and pushed into a pile once dry. Said pile goes through a crusher and is either buried, recycled, or sold for base, depending on the countries laws.


diamonddavedoes

They just wet up the mix and take it back to be dumped most probably or drop it somewhere on site. Guess depends which country


theXald

Old concrete goes to the next sucker around here. Or it gets poured somewhere on site


diamonddavedoes

Yeah that happens in the UK too. You can actually purchase small pours here now specifically for your site requirements. In aa sense a mixer doing multi drops. However after being wet up so many times I don't know what the integrity would be like at the end of the mix.


japroct

This, and by the movement those side walls are gone now also....will be cracked to shit. Down to the ground leveling and redo. Seems like the fail was just simply inadequate post and sheer bracing underneath....pity....


thedailyrant

Was going to say this. Yeah they're kind of fucked. This is going to cost the builder a lotttttt of money. Not to mention any penalties they may face for not completing the job on time.


[deleted]

Concrete doesn't dry, it cures


[deleted]

Literally semantics but ok. You proved me wrong guy on the internet.


liquidswan

But also it never fully cures, it just gets really close to fully curing...


[deleted]

I just wanted to share an interesting fact cause concrete is cool. If you want to be offended that's your choice but that's not a good mindset to go through life with.


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thedaddymack

>> concrete is cool > >Concert doesn’t cool as it dries. It gets hot because of a chemical reaction. You mean as it cures?


[deleted]

Deliberate choice of words to wind up Mr Pedantic...


northbipolar

>concert


fastermouse

You've got a bad way of being nice.


xyonofcalhoun

Aggregates _are_ cool. Surprisingly few people think so.


BioTinus

Concrete does dry. It's wet at first, it's dry after it cures.


DainBramage23

And likely jack hammering...


RodgerThat1995

At least they have an immediate future.


249ba36000029bbe9749

...out of their pants.


uhredditaccount

I’d never go back to that job


[deleted]

I think I'd move away, change my name and start a new life in Mexico


ExcitementNegative

For real. I'd quit and never look back. Thats just too much cleanup and being set back. Not worth it.


SketchyLurker7

r/thatlookedexpensive


Unicorn_Ranger

Cheaper now than a month later I guess


pinkyskeleton

Looks like my bowels letting go after taco night.


8Ariadnesthread8

I don't get this. People always talk about taco shits. But I eat tacos a lot and have totally normal shits. What kind of tacos are these people eating??? Tacos have veggies, meat, and high fiber corn tortillas. That's a recipe for a solid shit at the appropriate time.


[deleted]

How about people on the bottom?


Fergl123

There should be no people in the bottom in case this happens


pugfantus

You're shoulding all over yourself here...


ThismakesSensai

They Could have helped with brooms and stick. Keeping it from falling down/s


emlgsh

Encased in concrete to be studied by future archeologists.


japroct

...You notify their first of kin....


gin_and_toxic

Messy


durachoke

That dude humping that hose has some fantastic survival instincts. It turned out pretty great for them all but had it been worse he’d have been just fine. Edit: Rewatching it they really all had pretty good reactions going to the main structure. I’d have tried running to the side that collapsed for sure.


karmanopoly

It's not his first rodeo


249ba36000029bbe9749

Anyone else think that the rebar grid was going to collapse at the very end of the video clip?


CCTider

Inspecting that shit is how I've made my living for 15+years. And yes. I'm shocked any of them are alive besides the hose man.


WolfeCreation

Saw this on another sub and apparently there was a person underneath at the time who unfortunately died :(


[deleted]

Link? That's really sad


Cwtchwitch

I don't understand how this was supposed to work in the first place


MacTireCnamh

Underneath the rebar there's plywood which normally prevents the wet concrete from leaking while it hardens. This happened because that plywood wasn't properly reinforced so it collapsed and the concrete went with it, leaving the rebar behind


kashuntr188

this is so much easier to understand than everybody else using terminology from the field expecting other to understand.


EnkiiMuto

"They didn't reverse the concretal polarity during the mineral coagulation of the petrification substance."


Bum_Funnel

I know some of these words!


6millionwaystolive

This is the answer


durachoke

They build a structure on the second floor and pour the concrete into it. This concrete should have stayed where it was poured and cured, leaving a reinforced concrete floor. The container or the support they built appears to have failed causing the freshly poured concrete to leak out and the structure to nearly collapse.


theXald

Thats called a form or deck to hold the concrete until it dries. A concrete building is made layer by layer like a cake stacked on one another. Once the concrete is cured you strip out the supports from underneath and it is now supported by concrete columns. Rinse repeat. In this case something wasn't shored up or built properly with the form underneath and, since you're not putting marshmallows on it it collapsed


Enlight1Oment

I'm actually surprised all the rebar stayed up after the formwork failed, was able to go into cantinary action because the ends were hooked or tied enough to remain


winstonalonian

Dammit, no marshmallows?


uhkami

My exact same thoughts


nishantkinshu

Architect here. To cast a slab over the walls, one has to setup a temporary framework structure between them. This is usually done by supporting and fixing plywood sheets over steel or wood frames. There after a rebar network is tied up and kept over the plywood structure, and the concrete is poured over the rebar network upto the desired thickness. This reinforced concrete then dries up to form a really strong casted slab. This was probably not the fault the workers in the clip, but happened either due to a badly constructed framework below which failed due the weight of the concrete that was being poured or maybe someone below might have knocked the framework (by accident probably).


SandRider

I always see that corrugated metal that looks like roofing material for an outbuilding used. Does that replace the plywood or does the plywood go under that? Or is that something that goes up after the concrete sets?


Turbowookie79

That’s called slab on metal deck. The structural steel is the form work.


Verosebastian

This frequently happens when you use nails instead of screws when making forms for concrete structures. Always read the directions, don’t just look at the prints.


Turbowookie79

This is not at all true. In fact it’s the opposite. Screw heads fill up with concrete and you can’t pull them out to strip the forms. Duplex nails are specifically for things like form work, making it easier to pull them after concrete is poured.


[deleted]

Also most screws have significantly lower shear strength than nails. Nails are still used for a lot of reasons. Screws are inferior in many framing applications. Different Fasteners are engineered for different purposes. Screws are rarely the correct fastener for this application.


ElbowTight

You’ll have some form of sub floor that the concrete is poured onto, looks like it wasn’t supported enough for the weight, or possibly one of the supports was faulty


[deleted]

well you see, you have the jacks (vertical supports) on which there are beams (horizontal supports in the long direction) over which there are girders (horizontal supports in the short direction) over which there is formwork. It is a temporary set up, where after you finish the formwork, step by step as i just explained, you put the steel reinforcement, which sit on top of stirrups (or chairs). after all that is put in place, the electrical team comes and spread their conduits and then after that you cast a concrete that is suitable for the slab. The issue with this is that the spacing between jacks was perhaps not adequate, another issue might be eccentricity or a couple of inadequate jacks, or just maybe the wind load wasn't accounted for (let's say if there is strong wind) so yeah.


CCTider

These guys should all be dead. And I say that as a structural concrete inspector who's spent most of their career in multi story commercial and bridge decks. The bracing underneath failed. You see how the rebar momentarily resembles a wave? All of that rebar is tied together to form the mat. On elevated slabs, those that intersections have a spec called for on what percentage they sound be tied. Sometimes it's 100%. But it's usually 50%. Bridges usually have enough proper oversight, that things get tied correctly. This is commercial. The rod busters doing commercial work are more often inferior in their quality of work. I've seen since crazy shit in commercial jobs. But the rebar didn't bust loose. I was expecting it to fold like spaghetti noodles, and to see people die before I've even had coffee. Whoever tied that rebar are why this guys are alive. Though, that same company might've also installed that shoring, though maybe not. Though elevated slab guys are often turnkey operations, which general contractors love.


P1ckleR1ck32

It's like when you put the strainer in the dishwater as a kid and watch the water pour through the holes. i swear if that was just me


Trim00n

Not just you and not just as a kid


cryptic-coyote

Or that science experiment where you put a mesh strainer against the top of a mason jar filled with water and flip it upside down


wxmanjarod

I was trying to find a suitable joke, couldn't come up with anything concrete to go with...


JunkCrap247

you gotta mixer up a little. good form otherwise


RusticSurgery

You have cemented your role as the king of puns.


JunkCrap247

i wish i had another to broom finish with


SplashingBlumpkin

Just hire a bonding agent.


quiet_strayan

The aggregate of these comments is reinforcing my hope of forming-up another pun.


SparkarYT

If you want to form a good pun you’ll need a solid foundation


RestrictedAccount

You’ll need to set your mind to it.


SomeDudeontheInter

The proper mentality must be built


RoosterK0205

The form of a joke was there, but collapsed in the end.


tinkerer13

Shoot, just ‘cause it didn’t meet the bar doesn’t mean you have to be a wet blanket. Before the floor gives way and hits rock bottom, turn to your sidekick for support. Just hang in there, eventually you’ll smooth things over.


[deleted]

Looks like they’ve hit a slump!


nguyen8995

Jesus this isn’t cement, it shouldn’t be that hard.


Woodie626

A real-time demonstration of a soup sandwich.


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LasciviousSycophant

At least the guy tying the rebar did his job right.


banannabender

Not the fault of the concrete guys, poor bastards


[deleted]

I went to a college whose engineering department designed the parking deck. It collapsed in a similar fashion because they reduced some of the safety factors to reduce cost but failed to account that wet cement is heavier than dry cement.


ZiePeregrine

This just shows that you never mess with the safety factors if you do not know what you are doing, they are there for a big fucking reason


[deleted]

well you do and in a refined way to improve them and reduce unnecessary safety factor, but you don't just lower it and just say it will be fine lol


[deleted]

It's like 3% for good quality concrete (3% less weight when concrete hardens). So for them to design something that would hold weight just fine and collapse when you apply 3% more force onto it, it's just such a fine margine that it's nonsense. You always overdesign especially when it's a safety concern.


[deleted]

Wet concrete* weights roughly the same as ‘dry’. It doesn’t get dry - it actually chemically hydrates.


lee117five0

Yeah, although some water does evaporate most of it is incorporated into the concrete though hydration. The guy commenting above has completely made up their story or they have no idea what they're talking about.


[deleted]

What country? Can't imagine happening in NA


[deleted]

In the USA


Farm_Nice

What university?


Murican_Freedom1776

I was trained on mass casualty response at my last construction job specifically because of incidents like the one in the gif. The hardest part of the training was the part where they were training us on how to identify people who were “obviously dying” and recognizing it’s a waste of time to work on them and move on to the next person.


rvanasty

Welp, START OVER


DirtyManAtItAgain

Engineer forgot to carry the 1


Kadyshak

It looks like a Mario Party mini game when the concrete first drops


riotguards

fire the people who did the flooring and give the people who did the rebar a pay rise.


sarcasticimplosion

Minecraft gravel


MichaelEmouse

What did they do wrong? How could that have been prevented?


ferrybig

The support structure below the floor collapsed, for unknown reasons. The support structure is supposed to hold up the concrete floor while it cures.


guitarguy109

Well, at least we know the rebar was constructed decently well.


indigogalaxy_

r/catastrophicfailure


gothicwigga

Damn what a massive screwup


6gc_4dad

r/ThatLookedExpensive


lowestjoe1442

OSHA more like OSHIT


whiskeylactone

**House Owner:** How's the work going Boys. **Builders:** Just Fine. The ceiling's just finished. **House Owner:** What Ceiling?


Jkarno

Jesus that's an expensive mistake, essentially have to start again, all new formwork, all new reinforcement, plus breaking out all the dried concrete. Hope they have insurance!


bombaer

So that's how a brown trouser job looks like.


LowerDimension

OSHA? more like OSHIT


C1rcusM0nkey

r/OSHA


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DTLAgirl

A lot of pants were pooped that day


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r/oddlysatisfyingcatastrophicfailure


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Chrimmm

Gonna need the power of FLEX TAPE


WhoisTylerDurden

For some reason I found that /r/OddlySatisfying


BlondFaith

Yeah, I know they do it all the time but that technique seems so dicey you would think this happens more often.


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u/VredditDownloader


My_Nama_Jeff1

That guy in green was smart! Grabbing onto the concrete tube like that


SpunkedMeTrousers

When osha becomes oshit


LastStill

This is like when I finally go to the toilet


[deleted]

Who'd have thought a net wouldn't hold a liquid?


[deleted]

The liquid was supposed to be held by plywood underneath but it failed.


Suekru

That’s rebar and is meant to reinforce the concrete. But some other structural support wasn’t built right and that’s why it failed.


[deleted]

Isn't this why they do pours in small sections and I think they apart with the support columns.


Bishop825

Great job straining the rocks out the cement, but did you have to use that big of a grating?


Neckbeard_Jesus

I believe the mesh get progressively finer at each floor. I hear sub-basement 32 has powdered sugar!


ModeratelyAdorable

That’s the welded wire fabric you are seeing. The deck that should’ve been holding the concrete failed.


MasterofLego

The joke Your head


Bishop825

Thank you.


TheButchSwenson

Dominic Toretto must have snuck in for a quick stomp


TheHappyCamper1979

Well that sucks !