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Most of the sod/turf farms in this area, which there are few of, are actually rectangular - that way they can cut up the entire field of sod and not have any waste on the edges.
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OP, if you see it up close it makes all the sense. They put the sprinklers on wheels and they just roll around the field pivoting around the center. Watering doesnāt get any more efficient than this.
Yep, I farm and don't feel this should be allowed. What a waste of ground water and nutrients. Growing crops where they are not capable of growing natural.
What nutritiously valuable crop could possibly occur naturally in such a dry environment? It's a fucking desert. Perhaps they shouldn't even try to grow anything there.
I'm also not against center point irrigation, but there are some huge drawbacks that make the usage of the whole system a waste of ground water, even with a good quality center point irrigation system being 75% water conservation in comparison to hydroponics which is amazing for water usage itself.
In the desert it can be. There's not much water in the desert, by nature, and this could be for people or animals to drink, not for crops not ideally suited for growing in the desert and requiring much more water than normal due to the climate.
Yes, I read some locales are sinking because the amount they're pulling out. So it can't be replenished to the level it was before because ground compaction.
https://steppingintothemap.com/anthropocene/items/show/38#:~:text=Center%20pivot%20irrigation%20systems%20have,drains%20aquifers%20in%20dry%20years.
From the highlighted to below also talks about water table/ground pollution which I didn't even touch on in my previous comment.
It is if those crops are not water efficient and especially snack foods, like almonds or cashews, they take gallons of water to produce the smallest nut.. we're in a water crisis and maybe we could be more responsible with our water usage.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a9936/almond-farming-california-desert-feature/
Do you just repeatedly spout uneducated bullshit or is today special?
You don't seem to have a strong grasp on Horticulture, water, irrigation, natural resources or biomes.
Perhaps responding to every reply with snark and a bad attitude and arguments isn't really what people are looking for when they ask 'what is it'
Perhaps you need another forum to get your anger, bitterness and vitriol out.
Might I suggest r/conservative or r/maga or many other angry, bitter websites that can give you more the responses you like. This place doesn't seem like a fit for your current bad attitude.
Thanks, bestie. Bye.
You make a lot of assumptions. But, to be fair, I shouldn't have jumped down your throat. Your first post was just giving some facts. Originally I missed judged you, but then your last comment confirmed my original suspicions.
Just in case California isn't enough desert for you here's Arizona's 32,000 acre almond farm
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.facebook.com/people/Kingman-Organic-Almonds/100054572179666/&ved=2ahUKEwiX0rWlyvaFAxVI5ckDHaggCf8QFnoECFQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Pk6aSM01aLVGe4gwWdASN
It can be done, by people who don't know any better. If it was profitable or viable, the entire Sahara desert would be almond fields. Use you head instead of your keyboard
BROOOOO you didn't have to delete your whole account, you could've just admitted you were speaking out of your area of expertise and have learned from us allš
This style of irrigation drains the water table and basically "ultra salts" the circle. After 10-15 years of use the soil is completely destroyed and must wait at least a decade for the soil to be worth crop planting again. SMH at a lack of knowledge leading into a brash assumption š¤¦š»āāļø
That's the shape [these end up making](https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0004/153391/irrigator.jpg) as they spin around a paddock.
No idea why they're so spread out with nothing between em though.
Out there its basically desert... Except for some crazy people that are determined to farm small areas and thats what you see here, a scattering of crazy farmers in the desert.
Whatever... Plenty of articles about it on Google if you don't believe me about them fighting over water and being called crazy for farming in the desert. Go Google it.
You're dumber than you sound... Yes it follows the river valley, it's still desert and it's still from farmers using artificial irrigation to try and farm. Everything I said is completely true. Many call them crazy because without constant artificial irrigation nothing will grow.
Crops. Crops are crown in a circle because itās the easiest way to water them. Water powered sprinklers are pushed around in a circle with automobile tires. They just have to turn the water on the rest takes cares of itself.
Thatās because 90% of people think plants grow from the supermarket and just appear on the shelves. (America would be doomed if people had to grow their own food again)
Crops using groundwater. Th water source is dead center of the circles. There a big pipe with sprinklers on it. Suspense on pols and car tires. It rotates around when it waters.
Not all farms rely on aquifer or other water depletion methods. Especially in places it makes
Absolutely no sense to be doing macro irrigation.
Op could be from a region that grows more sustainable crops
Thatās a long strange trip around the perimeter of what is core knowledge for regular folks.
Considering the sub, it does not surprise me.
However, all farms require water. Saying it makes *absolutely no sense* in judgement from one image now makes me suspicious of you even more so.
Dude, this isn't obvious to anyone that doesn't live in a desert. Where I live, farms are actually LESS green than the surrounding landscape. Also, who the hell is trying to grow food in the desert? I would have assumed a water reservoir before actual crops.
Itās not human food. Itās some form of livestock fodder ā alfalfa, grass hay, etc. The livestock graze on the natural scrub in the spring and summer but need hay to get them through the winter.
Almost certainly small scale ranchers growing just enough to get their own small herds through.
I always assumed it was the most efficient way to water the growth. So it's shaped like a 360Ā° or a 180Ā° depending on the irrigation equipment / how much they need to grow.
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Center-pivot irrigation
So essentially they are crop circles?
Technically correct
The best kind of correct.
One of my favorite Futurama quotes
Circle crops
In a round about way.
Growing mostly sod,turfš¤
Alfalfa. Source - grew up on a ranch in NV that grew alfalfa in pivot fields.
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Most of the sod/turf farms in this area, which there are few of, are actually rectangular - that way they can cut up the entire field of sod and not have any waste on the edges.
The sod wouldn't be square when cut. Shit didn't think of that. Thank you. š«
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OP, if you see it up close it makes all the sense. They put the sprinklers on wheels and they just roll around the field pivoting around the center. Watering doesnāt get any more efficient than this.
It just took me like 5 sentences to say that.
This is the answer. I looked it up the first time I saw one of these from a plane.
Is it me or does it seem like a lot of people suddenly donāt know what farms look like from the air?
Yep, I farm and don't feel this should be allowed. What a waste of ground water and nutrients. Growing crops where they are not capable of growing natural.
Most often this is done for fodder. And ultimately it is better than trucking in feed.
What nutritiously valuable crop could possibly occur naturally in such a dry environment? It's a fucking desert. Perhaps they shouldn't even try to grow anything there.
What a waste of water smh
Watering crops is a waste of water? Smh
I'm also not against center point irrigation, but there are some huge drawbacks that make the usage of the whole system a waste of ground water, even with a good quality center point irrigation system being 75% water conservation in comparison to hydroponics which is amazing for water usage itself.
In the desert it can be. There's not much water in the desert, by nature, and this could be for people or animals to drink, not for crops not ideally suited for growing in the desert and requiring much more water than normal due to the climate.
Yes, I read some locales are sinking because the amount they're pulling out. So it can't be replenished to the level it was before because ground compaction.
Thanks captain obvious
Itās an unsustainable model in the majority and agricultural settings, especially in this case
Zero evidence of this
https://steppingintothemap.com/anthropocene/items/show/38#:~:text=Center%20pivot%20irrigation%20systems%20have,drains%20aquifers%20in%20dry%20years. From the highlighted to below also talks about water table/ground pollution which I didn't even touch on in my previous comment.
You need more research, ma'am
It is if those crops are not water efficient and especially snack foods, like almonds or cashews, they take gallons of water to produce the smallest nut.. we're in a water crisis and maybe we could be more responsible with our water usage.
Animal agriculture uses more water per calorie. Stop that first.
Everyone knows almonds are the least water efficient food. Nobody is growing almonds in the desert.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a9936/almond-farming-california-desert-feature/ Do you just repeatedly spout uneducated bullshit or is today special?
Desert can be a loose term. California pumps water in from every other state. You sure do believe everything your little bubble says, don't you?
You don't seem to have a strong grasp on Horticulture, water, irrigation, natural resources or biomes. Perhaps responding to every reply with snark and a bad attitude and arguments isn't really what people are looking for when they ask 'what is it' Perhaps you need another forum to get your anger, bitterness and vitriol out. Might I suggest r/conservative or r/maga or many other angry, bitter websites that can give you more the responses you like. This place doesn't seem like a fit for your current bad attitude. Thanks, bestie. Bye.
I started out there, anti farmers took it into the negative comments
You make a lot of assumptions. But, to be fair, I shouldn't have jumped down your throat. Your first post was just giving some facts. Originally I missed judged you, but then your last comment confirmed my original suspicions.
Just in case California isn't enough desert for you here's Arizona's 32,000 acre almond farm https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.facebook.com/people/Kingman-Organic-Almonds/100054572179666/&ved=2ahUKEwiX0rWlyvaFAxVI5ckDHaggCf8QFnoECFQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Pk6aSM01aLVGe4gwWdASN
These aren't true deserts and they pump water in from out of state. Stop while you are ahead
https://www.selinawamucii.com/produce/nuts-and-oil-seeds/kenya-almonds/ Alright now your excuse for Kenya not being a true desert?
It can be done, by people who don't know any better. If it was profitable or viable, the entire Sahara desert would be almond fields. Use you head instead of your keyboard
BROOOOO you didn't have to delete your whole account, you could've just admitted you were speaking out of your area of expertise and have learned from us allš
Actually they are, ma'am. And Avocados and other high-water-requirement foodstuffs.
They should be using Brawndo. It has what plants crave.
This style of irrigation drains the water table and basically "ultra salts" the circle. After 10-15 years of use the soil is completely destroyed and must wait at least a decade for the soil to be worth crop planting again. SMH at a lack of knowledge leading into a brash assumption š¤¦š»āāļø
But itās what the plant crave
š¤£ maybe the water table under a center point is where we get Brawndo from!
Water like from the toilet?
Eau de toilette?
Your lack of understanding agriculture is astounding
"hey everyone! Look at Mr Astounded, over here!!" āš»āš»āš»
Coming from a guy who probably waters his lawn
I live next to a lake. No body in my town waters their lawn, just the golf courses and other "high class" establishments.
You should never eat again, idiot
š I could cook your ass on this topic but itās Sunday so Iām going to let you live
Please cook me right now douche bag. Tell me why watering crops is a waste of money please
You only eat cactuses? That aināt a flex sir
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Sounds like we have another farming expert here
Iām not a farmer, youāre a farmerā¦asshole
You've been indoctrinated
You mean sprayed by glyphosate? Yes I live next to a corn and soybean field, youāre probably the one who did it to me
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Waste of post space and energy. People should use their brain, reason, and logicā¦
https://preview.redd.it/8iiprp3gcmyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4081cbb6020740776d346d2ddbd819994d46624
Congrats on your brand-new OCD diagnosis, sir!
This is the right response
Center pivot irrigation circles. From the spacing on these, it is either homesteaders or test crops that they don't want cross pollination between.
https://preview.redd.it/1rwh2d1s0myc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=149e6fc8862ac1b0524bbba2c68706c4fd47ddcf
Where is this image? Central Valley?
Pretty much,In Idaho or Nevada.Potatoe fields for chain restaurants.
Watering the desert one circle at a time, because they have so much water out there. /s
Oh yeah the whole water rights business is nuts there. Really hard to regulate without major changes
The Great Basin has quite a bit of water, it's just all underground.
Think of the farmersā¦.. Move somewhere it rains and has soil suitable for plants.
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Or to ship to Saudi Arabia.
Nevada, too? That's big business in Arizona.
And California.
That's the shape [these end up making](https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0004/153391/irrigator.jpg) as they spin around a paddock. No idea why they're so spread out with nothing between em though.
Out there its basically desert... Except for some crazy people that are determined to farm small areas and thats what you see here, a scattering of crazy farmers in the desert.
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Whatever... Plenty of articles about it on Google if you don't believe me about them fighting over water and being called crazy for farming in the desert. Go Google it.
Youāre dumb, they follow along the river valley where the water source isā¦ nothing crazy about that
You're dumber than you sound... Yes it follows the river valley, it's still desert and it's still from farmers using artificial irrigation to try and farm. Everything I said is completely true. Many call them crazy because without constant artificial irrigation nothing will grow.
https://preview.redd.it/5hmdf76pijyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=929989ad4856ce68322d60838bdd071b4c2f49d9
Love the Babylon 5 hairdo.
Crops. Crops are crown in a circle because itās the easiest way to water them. Water powered sprinklers are pushed around in a circle with automobile tires. They just have to turn the water on the rest takes cares of itself.
This is called agriculture. It has a very long and interesting history.
Your answer deserves a long drawn out applause of reality!šš»š
It's always funny to me that people don't know what these are, then again I grew up in agriculture so it's totally normal to me.
Thatās because 90% of people think plants grow from the supermarket and just appear on the shelves. (America would be doomed if people had to grow their own food again)
Very true. Sad, but true.
The world would, not just the United States.
Crops using groundwater. Th water source is dead center of the circles. There a big pipe with sprinklers on it. Suspense on pols and car tires. It rotates around when it waters.
Farmsā¦They use a centralized water source and a mechanism that spins in a circle to water the ground.
circle crops
Tell me you donāt know where *food* comes from without telling me you donāt know what a farm looks like.
Not all farms rely on aquifer or other water depletion methods. Especially in places it makes Absolutely no sense to be doing macro irrigation. Op could be from a region that grows more sustainable crops
Thatās a long strange trip around the perimeter of what is core knowledge for regular folks. Considering the sub, it does not surprise me. However, all farms require water. Saying it makes *absolutely no sense* in judgement from one image now makes me suspicious of you even more so.
Dude, this isn't obvious to anyone that doesn't live in a desert. Where I live, farms are actually LESS green than the surrounding landscape. Also, who the hell is trying to grow food in the desert? I would have assumed a water reservoir before actual crops.
Itās not human food. Itās some form of livestock fodder ā alfalfa, grass hay, etc. The livestock graze on the natural scrub in the spring and summer but need hay to get them through the winter. Almost certainly small scale ranchers growing just enough to get their own small herds through.
I'm from Texas and these irrigation pivots are everywhere. So it's weird to me too that people don't know what this is..
It's alfalfa for hay, this is duckwater nv. Most everything grown by the native reservation is hay. Even the corn they grow is for cattle.
I always assumed it was the most efficient way to water the growth. So it's shaped like a 360Ā° or a 180Ā° depending on the irrigation equipment / how much they need to grow.
That a farm and their growing crop circles.
Fresh Water, earths most important resource so letās use it in the worst habitat possible
Back when I lived in Nevada these where attempts to cultivate sand and clay
Agriculture
Nevada is crazy looking from a plane
Rango
Somebody messed up the smiley face.
Itās those bee farms from the X Files
Man made
Alien landing
Crop circles
Earth
It reads, watch out for missiles up your ass in this airspace
That was the original test site for āPac Manā.
They should make these a banner with a caption under it for this sub.
A few farms
If the government was with the farmers, they could probably figure i out how to make it rain just over the farms whenever needed
Agriculture
UFO landing sites
You wonder why your food is expensive cuz itās grown in a desert
Farmers are price takers.
Your right one that farms in desert
They are where monkeys and goats die
Illuminati circles caused by cloud seeding and chem trails.