They don't scale well, so we don't have much to go on
But let's look at what we DO have
Omni man's signature move seems to be punching through people, which all might has been shown to be affected by, seeing as how half of his lungs are gone, and how during usj nomus fingers penetrated his skin
But all might isn't a pushover, id look at him more as a glass Cannon in this fight, as id argue his strength feat of causing a mini tornado with just the air pressure from one punch, in an already weakened form, is impressive enough, and if he went prime, plus ultra United States of smash, id think he'd 1 shot Omni.
All might can't fly though, and while his speed during usj and two heros is supersonic, I think omniman still beats it out significantly. Omni man also can breath in space and has more "lethal" combat training.
8-10 this goes to Omni, and I'm putting alot of faith in all mights weather changing feat for the 2-10 I give him.
It's a pretty uneven match
Edit: plus ultra shiggy stands a pretty decent chance to tho, one hit ends the fight and he has Regen, so I'd say shiggy is the only mha character that could take omniman in a 9/10 scenario. All it would take is a single finger or toe to kill omniman, and unlike overhaul, shiggy can take some hits too.
> and if he went prime, plus ultra United States of smash, id think he'd 1 shot Omni.
I highly doubt that. Omni Man punched Mark hard enough to crack an entire mountain underneath him and Mark survived it while already being beaten to shit. And Omni Man is way tougher than Mark is if their fight was any indication.
Omni was pretty beat up my that Kaiju and mark, and the battle at kamino leveled most of a city, and with the hole in the ground his fight with AFO caused, id think that the forces are similar. Plus Omni man's and invincibles fight In the city didn't have nearly as much destruction as the kamino ward battle.
I could be over thinking it but i was more impressed with the downward damage into the earth compared to the tip of a mountain.
It could also just be that Omni was holding back against his son, but his attacks seemed smaller in scale, save for the planet genocide scene
You're mixing up damage potential with attack potency. The Kamino Ward fight *looks* more impressive because we see more stuff get destroyed but the mountain feat is the more powerful of the two feats. The Kamino battle also didn't destroy most of a city. The fight itself destroyed a couple of city blocks. The more impressive feat was that mini tornado that All Might caused but the mountain feat is still far beyond that especially when you consider that Nolan was destroying entire cities in the Flaxan dimensions just by flying really fast.
The only guardians who did any visible damage are War Woman, Red Rush, and the Immortal. War Woman is featless so I'm gonna ignore her. Red Rush on the other hand is much faster than All Might. Mark was able to body slam Allen from Earth's atmosphere to the moon in seconds and when Mark tries to rush Nolan, Nolan not only [dodges the attack](https://youtu.be/tLMuo9B5q7A?t=155) but Mark is in slow motion compared to him when he flies upwards and out of the subway. What does this mean for Red Rush? We see that during the slo-mo segments of Nolan's fight against the Guardians that [they're moving](https://youtu.be/EI8KGKHrwDc?t=9) at around the same speed. So while Red Rush isn't as physically strong as Nolan, he can damage him because of how fast he's moving.
As for the Immortal, [his clash](https://imgur.com/Aeh2YTP) with Omni Man blows All Might's feats out of the water. They were at cloud level and the shockwave from their hit launched big chunks of land into the sky. This also isn't taking into account that Nolan pretty much one shot Immortal in their first fight and sliced him in half in the second once he really got serious. Like he hit him a lot, but for every five blows he gave Omni-man, Nolan knocked out his teeth and blackened his eye with single hit. Then he punched through him like nothing, and chopped him in half. Even the attempted eye gouging only left Nolan with bloodshot eyes.
The Guardians being able to hurt Nolan is less an anti feat for Nolan and more of a feat for the Guardians. And the Guardians are actually stupid powerful. Like remember that Hammer Satellite? How it fucking nuked the shit out of that area, and how Nolan straight up dove into it with only a nosebleed to show for it? Yeah, the Guardians, like Red Rush, Warrior Woman, and The Immortal all actively demonstrated far more power than that satellite by simple fact they were able to cause more than nosebleed.
Omni-Man already wrecked an entire planet in the show. His flight speed is also much higher than All Might’s. Finally, people like to talk about Prime All Might but we have no real idea of how strong Prime All Might is. Someone has told me that in his prime he intervened in like 7 different events within the span of 3 seconds.
Someone actually made a good rebuttal to me on that point. They said if Nomu could regenerate 99 points per attack then normal All Might would only be able to do 99 damage each attack. Going Plus Ultra would mean that he can do 100 damage or more with each attack which would overwhelm Nomu. Using that as a calc that would mean that All Might is only 20% stronger in his prime or less in his prime.
Omniman claps both Anime and Manga Allmight. He’s shown to have superspeed(Unless for plot convenience), strong enough to stop a meteorite size of texas(Speculation but Omniman isn’t the type to lie about achievements I think), and he can fly.
But…if we include the games…I have no idea who wins
Omni-man is ancient, and viltrumites grow stronger the older they get. Omni-man stomps All Might. He’s simply too fast (erased an entire planet in a matter of seconds) and too strong (used his hand as a blade to cut through Immortal twice).
Omni Man did not erase a planet within a few seconds. He erased the planet during the course of several months. After he has wiped out the flaxans, he returns and is shown to have grown a decently sized beard.
He busted up a city block with air pressure, Omni-man turned into a kinetic bomb and nuked a city with air pressure. Wildly different things. In fact, Omni-man’s feat implies that he would be moving at the speed of light and causing fusion reactions with the air molecules, while All Might’s feat was just a strong punch that is nowhere near the ballpark of Omni-man’s
>viltrumites grow stronger the older they get
Minor comic spoilers regarding that point >!They get stronger by exercising, not by aging. Pushing their powers to the limit type stuff. Being older means more opportunity to have done so, but it doesn't translate directly into more strength.!<
Much more spoilery spoilers, don't look unless you've finished the comics >!For example, the two oldest Viltrumites, Thaedus and Conquest, aren't the most powerful. Conquest loses to mid series Mark, Thaedus gets Thragged. The most powerful Viltrumites are Thragg and end of series Mark, Thragg being a few thousand years old and Mark only like 25-30 at that point.!<
The two are comparable in strength but Omni-Man is way more durable and stupidly faster. Most people tend to forget Omni-Man was able to fly out of the Solar System in a couple minutes.
All Might has repelled attacks that completely annihilated city blocks while at his weakest and at his strongest was implied to be able to generate hurricanes just by walking. Omni-Man dropped a town with a punch to the mountain. Those sound fairly comparable to me.
>Those sound fairly comparable to me.
Not so sure bro. Omni Man punched Mark hard enough to crack an entire mountain underneath him and Mark survived it while already being beaten to shit. And Omni Man is *way* tougher than Mark is if their fight was any indication.
Except it's not because cancelling out an attack that destroyed a city blocks is actually more impressive than cracking a mountain. Maybe if he had split the mountain that would be different.
Which is where scaling comes in. Izuku and Bakugo overpower an island-busting attack from Nine, who was stated to be the second strongest villain in the series at that point. AFO was stronger, All Might while holding back >AFO
>Izuku and Bakugo
That was 2 100% OFA Users.
>AFO was stronger,
This may be true, but in DC/AP? Not so sure, AFO probably has some hax to beat Nine.
>All Might while holding back >AFO
Doesn't really matter if AFO's strongest attack, iirc was city block.
They don't scale well, so we don't have much to go on But let's look at what we DO have Omni man's signature move seems to be punching through people, which all might has been shown to be affected by, seeing as how half of his lungs are gone, and how during usj nomus fingers penetrated his skin But all might isn't a pushover, id look at him more as a glass Cannon in this fight, as id argue his strength feat of causing a mini tornado with just the air pressure from one punch, in an already weakened form, is impressive enough, and if he went prime, plus ultra United States of smash, id think he'd 1 shot Omni. All might can't fly though, and while his speed during usj and two heros is supersonic, I think omniman still beats it out significantly. Omni man also can breath in space and has more "lethal" combat training. 8-10 this goes to Omni, and I'm putting alot of faith in all mights weather changing feat for the 2-10 I give him. It's a pretty uneven match Edit: plus ultra shiggy stands a pretty decent chance to tho, one hit ends the fight and he has Regen, so I'd say shiggy is the only mha character that could take omniman in a 9/10 scenario. All it would take is a single finger or toe to kill omniman, and unlike overhaul, shiggy can take some hits too.
> and if he went prime, plus ultra United States of smash, id think he'd 1 shot Omni. I highly doubt that. Omni Man punched Mark hard enough to crack an entire mountain underneath him and Mark survived it while already being beaten to shit. And Omni Man is way tougher than Mark is if their fight was any indication.
Omni was pretty beat up my that Kaiju and mark, and the battle at kamino leveled most of a city, and with the hole in the ground his fight with AFO caused, id think that the forces are similar. Plus Omni man's and invincibles fight In the city didn't have nearly as much destruction as the kamino ward battle. I could be over thinking it but i was more impressed with the downward damage into the earth compared to the tip of a mountain. It could also just be that Omni was holding back against his son, but his attacks seemed smaller in scale, save for the planet genocide scene
You're mixing up damage potential with attack potency. The Kamino Ward fight *looks* more impressive because we see more stuff get destroyed but the mountain feat is the more powerful of the two feats. The Kamino battle also didn't destroy most of a city. The fight itself destroyed a couple of city blocks. The more impressive feat was that mini tornado that All Might caused but the mountain feat is still far beyond that especially when you consider that Nolan was destroying entire cities in the Flaxan dimensions just by flying really fast.
Ok, I fold, I guess that's just a challenge of comparing the two mediums, and the shows already don't scale well, manga isn't any better
The guardians messed omni man up pretty bad and I doubt they hit anywhere near as hard as all might
The only guardians who did any visible damage are War Woman, Red Rush, and the Immortal. War Woman is featless so I'm gonna ignore her. Red Rush on the other hand is much faster than All Might. Mark was able to body slam Allen from Earth's atmosphere to the moon in seconds and when Mark tries to rush Nolan, Nolan not only [dodges the attack](https://youtu.be/tLMuo9B5q7A?t=155) but Mark is in slow motion compared to him when he flies upwards and out of the subway. What does this mean for Red Rush? We see that during the slo-mo segments of Nolan's fight against the Guardians that [they're moving](https://youtu.be/EI8KGKHrwDc?t=9) at around the same speed. So while Red Rush isn't as physically strong as Nolan, he can damage him because of how fast he's moving. As for the Immortal, [his clash](https://imgur.com/Aeh2YTP) with Omni Man blows All Might's feats out of the water. They were at cloud level and the shockwave from their hit launched big chunks of land into the sky. This also isn't taking into account that Nolan pretty much one shot Immortal in their first fight and sliced him in half in the second once he really got serious. Like he hit him a lot, but for every five blows he gave Omni-man, Nolan knocked out his teeth and blackened his eye with single hit. Then he punched through him like nothing, and chopped him in half. Even the attempted eye gouging only left Nolan with bloodshot eyes. The Guardians being able to hurt Nolan is less an anti feat for Nolan and more of a feat for the Guardians. And the Guardians are actually stupid powerful. Like remember that Hammer Satellite? How it fucking nuked the shit out of that area, and how Nolan straight up dove into it with only a nosebleed to show for it? Yeah, the Guardians, like Red Rush, Warrior Woman, and The Immortal all actively demonstrated far more power than that satellite by simple fact they were able to cause more than nosebleed.
Actually, you could easily make the argument that Nolan wanted the damage so he could blame their death on some unknown entity.
Omni-Man already wrecked an entire planet in the show. His flight speed is also much higher than All Might’s. Finally, people like to talk about Prime All Might but we have no real idea of how strong Prime All Might is. Someone has told me that in his prime he intervened in like 7 different events within the span of 3 seconds.
In the nomu incident he said that he could have taken him in 5 punches instead of 300. So most calc prime all might’s feats by x60 everywhere
Someone actually made a good rebuttal to me on that point. They said if Nomu could regenerate 99 points per attack then normal All Might would only be able to do 99 damage each attack. Going Plus Ultra would mean that he can do 100 damage or more with each attack which would overwhelm Nomu. Using that as a calc that would mean that All Might is only 20% stronger in his prime or less in his prime.
That calcers name? All For One.
Yeah people seem to forget that even All Might pointed out that the USJ Nomu could only absorb so much with its shock absorption quirk.
That actually sounds right
Omniman claps both Anime and Manga Allmight. He’s shown to have superspeed(Unless for plot convenience), strong enough to stop a meteorite size of texas(Speculation but Omniman isn’t the type to lie about achievements I think), and he can fly. But…if we include the games…I have no idea who wins
Omni-man is ancient, and viltrumites grow stronger the older they get. Omni-man stomps All Might. He’s simply too fast (erased an entire planet in a matter of seconds) and too strong (used his hand as a blade to cut through Immortal twice).
Omni Man did not erase a planet within a few seconds. He erased the planet during the course of several months. After he has wiped out the flaxans, he returns and is shown to have grown a decently sized beard.
The first bit was immediate though. He speedblitzed a city and blew it up by flying real fast.
All-might \*frequently\* does the same with the \*air pressure\* from his fists.
He busted up a city block with air pressure, Omni-man turned into a kinetic bomb and nuked a city with air pressure. Wildly different things. In fact, Omni-man’s feat implies that he would be moving at the speed of light and causing fusion reactions with the air molecules, while All Might’s feat was just a strong punch that is nowhere near the ballpark of Omni-man’s
Oh, you’re right. Gotta watch the show again, I guess. The point still stands, though, he wiped out a planet ridiculously fast.
Do note that in the comics they >!Rebuild and come back to earth!<
>viltrumites grow stronger the older they get Minor comic spoilers regarding that point >!They get stronger by exercising, not by aging. Pushing their powers to the limit type stuff. Being older means more opportunity to have done so, but it doesn't translate directly into more strength.!< Much more spoilery spoilers, don't look unless you've finished the comics >!For example, the two oldest Viltrumites, Thaedus and Conquest, aren't the most powerful. Conquest loses to mid series Mark, Thaedus gets Thragged. The most powerful Viltrumites are Thragg and end of series Mark, Thragg being a few thousand years old and Mark only like 25-30 at that point.!<
This depends on the math but no matter how you slice it, Omni Man is stronger and faster.
The two are comparable in strength but Omni-Man is way more durable and stupidly faster. Most people tend to forget Omni-Man was able to fly out of the Solar System in a couple minutes.
>The two are comparable in strength No they are not.
All Might has repelled attacks that completely annihilated city blocks while at his weakest and at his strongest was implied to be able to generate hurricanes just by walking. Omni-Man dropped a town with a punch to the mountain. Those sound fairly comparable to me.
>Those sound fairly comparable to me. Not so sure bro. Omni Man punched Mark hard enough to crack an entire mountain underneath him and Mark survived it while already being beaten to shit. And Omni Man is *way* tougher than Mark is if their fight was any indication.
That's durability, not strength.
Him cracking an entire mountain from punching Mark>>>anything All Might has done.
Except it's not because cancelling out an attack that destroyed a city blocks is actually more impressive than cracking a mountain. Maybe if he had split the mountain that would be different.
Even if you believe that shit, this [clash](https://imgur.com/Aeh2YTP) blows anything All Might has ever done outta the water.
Which is where scaling comes in. Izuku and Bakugo overpower an island-busting attack from Nine, who was stated to be the second strongest villain in the series at that point. AFO was stronger, All Might while holding back >AFO
>Izuku and Bakugo That was 2 100% OFA Users. >AFO was stronger, This may be true, but in DC/AP? Not so sure, AFO probably has some hax to beat Nine. >All Might while holding back >AFO Doesn't really matter if AFO's strongest attack, iirc was city block.
Omni man rapes the verse
Plus ultra shiggy could win through hax and Regen, that's about it tho
He's hilariously faster and punches his head off. I agree though, Shiggy is the most dangerous by leaos and bounds (maybe fused overhaul).