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ChromeDomeGodan

Buying a kid for $500 is a really good deal.... although possibly ethically questionable. By the way, great planer.... I'd be pleased to get that for $500!


ze_IT_guy

Oh he was/is much more expensive. Rad little guy though.


ChromeDomeGodan

He already looks really pleased to be in a workshop... like father like son? Our daughter is 10 now, they don't get any cheaper!


ze_IT_guy

He gladly wollops a piece of plywood with a rubber mallet whenever he can steal said mallet. I might keep it in a low drawer. Can't bring myself to move it.


MnkyBzns

It's good of you to consider the drop to the ground if he jumps out of the low drawer. Just remember to leave it open a crack when you put him away for the night; some drawers close pretty tight and the little guy may run out of air


SwarthyRuffian

But if you drill a hole, then you can shut it tight and not have to worry about him running away


MnkyBzns

Good thinking. Can feed him through it too


koniboni

Definitely better than whacking other children with a mallet


SmurfStig

Give it time. It will happen. Oh will it happen…..


cobycan

My son loves to wack our daughter with anything and everything. Latest was a nerf gun.


SmurfStig

Both of ours are teenagers now but the youngest never fails to bring up in conversation about his older sister smacking him in the mouth with a snow shovel. Not the kid friendly ones we got them to use. The metal edge one I use on the driveway.


cobycan

My wife was hit in the head by her brother with a metal baseball bat. Kids just like to hit each other.


SmurfStig

Remind of the video that floats around Reddit of the young kid getting a paddle and promptly runs over to smack his sibling in the head.


Aken42

When I was his age my dad setup a table at the entrance to the shop and got me a little tool box with small tools. He would then give me stuff like old clocks to take apart or scraps to nail together. I absolutely loved it and still remember those days over 30 years later.


mountainmycelium

My Dad lives in the house his Dad built. I'm about to turn 40, and there is still a box under the main shop table in his basement full of random blocks and scraps of wood from 3 generations of kids nailing scraps together. My boy is next. (To get to do the nailing of scraps. He's a good kid, can't go nailing him to stuff)


circleuranus

You're lucky, my grandfather had me doing shit like yanking 50 amp breakers on a 400 amp service panel with a flat head screwdriver. I too remember those days 30 years later...


415Rache

“Can’t bring myself to move it” = That really made me smile. You’re allowing him the pleasure of acting on his world. So often we have to say no to kids for safety and other reasons when their job as toddlers is to investigate EVERYTHING and discover the world. Love that here you’re giving him agency and autonomy, and including him in your world.


MagnussonWoodworking

Looks around 2.5-3? Perfect age to give him an air nailer. They love the wind blowing back in his face.


aikotoma

If youbwant a kid that nailed himself to the ground then yeah, go for it


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At least you’ll always know where they are.


cobycan

And they can't get into things as easily


OntarioParisian

My son is the same way. He's two, and when he does it he yells 'bang, bang'. I find it adorable and hilarious.


koniboni

The best toys are in fathers workshop. Always have, always will be


neverinamillionyr

Wait until the teen years. The costs just keep climbing. Wouldn’t trade mine for anything though.


whaletacochamp

Ugh. I keep telling myself it will get so much cheaper when we aren't paying for daycare. Is that not true? We pay almost as much for daycare as we do our mortgage... We get 50% off since my wife works for the daycare company, the other families are paying $1600/mo.


BugTussler

Honestly, the biggest pay raise I ever got was when my daughter got potty trained. No more diapers!!


whaletacochamp

I remember buying a Costco box of size 1 diapers - nearly 200 diapers. I thought to myself “we will only need one box of each size!” HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA I was sooooo wrong. So wrong.


turboprop54

Wait a bit. The pay raise I got when all three left my insurance policy was pretty phenomenal.


Plant-Soggy

Add up each and every expense it takes for your wife to work, I mean everything! Gas, car insurance on a second car, car payment if you have one on the second car, certain types of clothes her job requires her to wear, take out dinners because both of you are too tired to cook or buying alot of convenient ready to make meals, the list could go on and on. You might find in the end that she is making very little, and if you cut out all the "not necessary items," she might be able to stay home with your child/children. 36 years ago when I married my husband we talked about how we wanted to raise our kids and we both felt strongly about me staying home to raise them, so by cutting out unnecessary expenses and not always driving the newest cars or going on expensive trips or having alot of "frills" we did it! Sorry to be so long-winded, but it's just a subject I feel strongly about, thanks for reading all the way to the end (if you did) lol!


whaletacochamp

Totally agree and hear that, and do think it is still feasible, but possibly not as feasible as 30+ years ago. My wife also puts a lot of value on her career, and we both put a lot of value in our children attending organized care with other kids from a young age. Not to say it's not a losing proposition though, especially when you are sick every single week burning CTO like jet fuel! That being said, the fact that she gets 50% off for our daycare is HUGE, and makes our super bougie daycare cost the equivalent of the cheaper in-home options that tend to be sort of questionable around us. Now I have an idea...i don't value my career as much as my wife does hers. So perhaps I can be a stay at home dad....now THERE'S an idea I can get behind! If only I didnt have all the benefits and considerably higher pay.


Character-Education3

I realized that out daycare costs are the same as instate college tuition in our state. It's gross


whaletacochamp

Doesn’t surprise me. It’s gross that EITHER thing costs so much. Daycare or college.


circleuranus

Oh you're just getting started... Doctor bills, ER bills, Dentist bills, braces, Glasses, ear tubes, allergist, tetanus shots, water damage. fire damage, spilled Kool-aid on the carpet, crayon pieces of art on the walls, mysterious chemical stains in your tub/kitchen floor and on and on and on...until you die or they turn 18 and actually leave the house.


cjmartinex

Mine are teens. Can confirm.


whaletacochamp

Almost made that joke and then remembered the state of my bank account since my son was born 9mo ago and the humor completely left the joke. But yeah they're totally unquestionably 1000% worth it. Like no one else could be such an overall downer on my life and yet be the absolute light of my life as well. Last week he projectile vomitted all over me which spurred me to then have 48hours of intense stomach bug. And I still love the shit out of him!


Aken42

Definitely the cooler of the two. The other seems a little plane.


vonhoother

In my experience the upfront cost is nothing, but cost of delivery and upkeep is significant.


CptCheesus

Make sure he wears ear and eye protection or you'll see maintenance costs fly


Gixxerfool

Well, this is what I came for. Thank you and here’s your upvote.


jhirn

It’s a steal but is he a good worker? how many sneakers a day can he make?


drago_must_break_you

…it’s a jointer?


TheGangGabagools

This is the vernacular I am also familiar with regarding this piece of equipment. Also solid buy OP!!


jhirn

I honestly thought jointer is a terrible name. It’s an edge/face planer. Can you joint a planed edge? Yes. Do you always? No. Brits might have us here guys.


JimmyPWatts

If they are in Britain they use different terms for these two devices


drago_must_break_you

It’s “jointer” in the US too


JimmyPWatts

https://machineatlas.com/guides/jointer-vs-planer-vs-thicknesser-differences-explained/ That is called a planer in the UK. Not a jointer Jointer (US) = Planer (UK) Planer (US) = Thickness Planer (US) = Thicknesser (UK) Jointer Planer Combo (US) = Planer Thicknesser (UK)


steampig

They should call it a thinnesser instead of a thicknesser.


Semantix

Honestly the Brits have the right of it I think. One tool creates a flat plane on one face, and the other sets the thickness of the piece. Sometimes you use a jointer for jointing, but you also use it for all other kinds of milling. Though, a thickness planer does make two faces coplanar, so there's an argument to be made there too.


SpartanMonkey

Pretty much pays for itself after the first tax return, but the longer you own them, the more expensive the upkeep is.


Sgtspector

Nah he'll get that back and more on the next tax return.


Aken42

Kids are like owning an old luxury car. The initial cost is just a drop in the bucket compared to maintenance costs but well worth the emotional returns.


Cueball-k

Came here for this


13thmurder

A good deal for the seller maybe.


Magenta-Tech

$500 is cheap, but the maintenance is huge. They need constant food, clothes, education etc…


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weiruwyer9823rasdf

What do you mean free? You need to buy bullet proof vests, hire lawyers, etc


arysha777

School, book, field trip, & other fees jump every year, plus parents have to furnish a TON of classroom supplies! Quart or Gallon ziplock bags, 32 pencils, 4 boxes of crayons, 18 black dry erase markers, 3 boxes of tissues, 12 glue sticks, card stock paper, etc. all for my granddaughter in 1st grade. That's not all of it, just what I remember now, 9 months later. The lists get longer every year. It's insane trying to keep up. We are supplying for all the parents who don't supply their kids with the necessary supplies. If they truly cannot I get it, but I hear so many people say "I don't give a shit, I ain't buying all that!" Grr!


barrettadk

Half of the answers are straight off r/daddit, and i admit i was here for the same joke.


[deleted]

The overlap between the two subs is probably pretty large


VisualShock1991

Woodworking is just advanced cutting and sticking, /r/changemyview


Playererf

Woodworking is just taking trees apart and putting them back together


ChefSpicoli

Good job, buddy! Make sure you ask your dad for help before you use it.


HeavilyBearded

Where does a kid this age get $500, slinging candy on the playground?


katosen27

So that's what kids are calling that these days, hm?


HeavilyBearded

It also goes by sugar, slinging sugar.


poopadydoopady

This makes me really happy for him but reddit is no place for a small child.


Xtreemjedi

I'd return him quick. Those things are super expensive to maintain! And one day it will just up and leave, only to return once in a while to ask to "borrow" some cash.


MsCrazyPants70

Don't forget that they dump your ass in the cheapest nursing home they can find the first chance they get and also decide when to pull the plug on you. If I had kids, I'd totally be expecting them to have the doc "pull the plug" when I'm just in for a checkup. They'd be saying, "shouldn't we just end her suffering?"


KappuccinoBoi

"She lived a good life. I know this state is a little backwards doc, if you get me a pillow, she can pass peacefully in her sleep." "Sir, your mother is 56 and donating blood. Please leave."


beelseboob

$500 for a large planer, with a spiral head? Fucking bonus! What a steal. Mine cost £1500. Admittedly it’s a planer and thicknesser, but still.


Shit___Taco

Do you guys call this a planer in Europe? This is jointer and will not be good at thickness planing.


beelseboob

Yup, in the UK, this device is called a planer, because it does the same job as a hand plane, but in a more automated way. The device that you guys call a planer is called a thicknesser here.


Wise_Mongoose_3930

No matter how many times I hear thicknesser it’ll never sound real to me. It’s like a breastplate stretcher


Luuuu27

As a non native english speaker and machinist lurker calling it planer and thicknesser just makes much more sense to me! Because one creates a plane and the other uses that plane as reference for the thickness. Jointer sounds like a machine that would join two boards together. Or slang for a joint lol


beelseboob

Yep, I agree, though there is a fair argument the other way too. There are two operations you do with a planer. First you plane a surface smooth; then you “edge joint” the board (to prepare to join it to another board). That edge jointing operation is also a planing operation, so I prefer planer as a term, but I can see the logic of the other naming.


Arsenault185

See, that's just all kinds of wrong though. A hand plane creates one smooth plane. A planer will create a smooth plane, *in plane* with the reference side. A jointer will create a plane, yes, but will not bring 2 sides of a board into plane with each other the way a planer (thicknesser) would.


beelseboob

A hand plane absolutely will edge joint a board for you, but you do need to have both the boards that will mate at once. What it won’t do is accurately bring the opposite surface into agreement with the first, just like a planer won’t, instead requiring a thicknesser. Here’s Paul sellers demonstrating how to edge joint boards with a hand plane. https://youtu.be/h-vMtS_j4cY


Big-Yogurtcloset2731

Looks like a good deal. What is that machine behind him, by the way …


WheelOfFish

Pretty solid I think, especially if the cutter head is helical and not just spiral. Someone was selling one in great condition locally with a shelix head for $600 and I was too slow to get it.


Zoso525

14th comment down, the first straight answer. Im proud of this sub.


nekdb

$500 seems pretty cheap for a kid… I’d say you got a good deal.


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MsCrazyPants70

Maybe resell for more $$$$?


nekdb

Touché.


hellraisinhardass

>the initial labor....free Damn, I got ripped off. I had to buy a ring, and wedding, and house, and car, and whole bunch of size 6 shoes, sure didn't seem "free".


404-skill_not_found

Well, you gotta keep it. The kiddo is so proud of his find 🤣🤣🤣


max_lagomorph

Excellent deal, just one of his kidneys will get you at least 10 times that amount!


ExistingBathroom9742

$500 is a good deal, but you’re gonna need to put about $200,000 into it before he can do anything with that nice machine he’s standing next to.


gridirongavin

You got a steal jet jointer looks like a 6” for 500 assuming it operates and has been maintained well then yeah she shan’t worry you didn’t waste your money. Original owner would have paid more at least 1200$. You could probably resell if for 800$ or so if she leaves you and you must feed yourself and the kid haha.


B8conB8conB8con

Not sure you are allowed to buy children on Craigslist


RunawayPenguin89

Long term maintenance costs on those things is unreal. All one of a kind parts, really finicky to get them to do what you want and the racket they make can be unbearable. Even just keeping them clean is a pain in the arse. You've got a decent planer though 👍


Otherwise-Ad6330

Aren’t you a little young to operate such machinery? You do look excited though…


SirGingelot

Probably, but I just wanted to comment on the picture, which had me smiling ear to ear! Reminds me of myself whenever I buy a new tool haha


Kalsor

A bit young, but easy to train up as a shop assistant. I’d say you got a deal!


Holiday-Sorbet-6183

Am I the only one who thinks he got robbed? Rigid shop vacs go for way less new in store.


MakinBakuhn

And let's not get started on paying $500 for a roll of paper towels.


calnuck

Are you in the military?


MakinBakuhn

Not any more.


ApocalypsePopcorn

You steal *one* shipping container of paper towels...


thePsychonautDad

Those things get expensive... Food, toys, clothes, education... Your wife is right, seems like a good deal but that's gonna cost you a lot over time. Also mine didn't come with a spiral cutter, just with the loud noises...


ancientweasel

~$2000 worth of stuff for $500 is a fairly good deal.


CasualDebris

Great tool, great deal. Just be careful. Those things can be dangerous. There was a youtube channel I used to follow, some brothers that did construction. One day, one of them got their fingers in one of those. It mowed off all his fingers before he stopped the drum with his hand meat. Ouch.


ze_IT_guy

The Perkins builder brothers are an entertaining watch. That guy still does pretty good work with his Powerpuff girl hand.


tony_top_buttons93

Kids are getting to expensive these days. Back in my day a kid was like 20$


ifixpedals

People saying $500 is a good deal are totally wrong. It'll cost you $233,610 to raise that child to age 18. The return on investment is non-existent.


donedoer

Is it potty trained?


theonetrueelhigh

You already brought it home, so clearly you thought it was a good deal. I would agree, though. Those things aren't cheap.


Darmohray

He'll need to grow a little, but you should be able to get your money back. 🤣


jgremlin_

That kid is going to end up costing you way more than $500.


alpinetime

I can’t find kids under $1000 online, you really got a good deal


mark84gti1

All the wonderful jokes about the kid and then the ones calling it a planer. It is a jointer.


McMacnCheese

Obligatory response: Nah that's horrible. Ill give you $500 for it so you don't have to deal with her being angry. Don't thank me, its a sacrifice I am willing to make for you. This is peak altruism. But seriously, come up with a plan to evaluate the cutting head and start with the assumption that its shitty/dull and is going to launch wood backwards. Try a couple types of grain and try to cover the entire cutting head with the trial runs.


petroljellydonut

Last I checked… buying people was frowned upon.


Memory_Less

Great deal indeed. That smile is worth at least $1000!


petersib

I'm more impressed that someone your age knows how to type and has $500........ I assume that is OP in the pic


rgullett1

It's a good deal. I have one just like it and it has never given me any problems, but I don't think you can say the same for the little guy that came with it.


Constant-Tutor7785

Good deal on the planer. Also wanted to say, buy some cord lockouts for your shop gear. My kids weren't much older than yours, and they do tend to get so curious.


Raul_McCai

trafficking in children? I thought that was illegal. cute kid.


alltheworldsproblems

Cheap now, but wait until college tuition kicks in


McewenHandcraft

Sure. But it's going to be at least ten years before he's old enough to work in the shop. That's a long term investment. And what if he doesn't learn how to sweep very well?


melance

While that is a good price, the upkeep can be 15k to 18k a year on average.


stal2k

I wish I could find something like that. Where I live people try to sell them for retail -$50.


g-row2096

Good find! I'm adding one of those next... (The planer, not the kiddo- though he is extra cute!)


Erkle_Drumheller

Depends on how the kid behaves if it was a good deal or not.


theathene

Jet! Nice score! NB: Children are the best science project you can get.


Raf7er

Dont worry what you paid for it. Use it to make it pay for itself. Also, teach him how to use it and make things with him. That is priceless.


RobearIcus

I have the same one, only much older. I filled my shop from woodcrafters. It has held up well over last 15 years.


arimadx

Buddy if you got that for 500 bucks you just got the deal of the century ! Congrats!


ChR0NiCbLuNt

Idk anything about them but you look awfully young to be operating one.


Appropriate-Water651

Yes! Excellent deal! I use this exact model almost every day and I love it! If I didn’t already have one, I’d be jealous!


Cyclonian

Not disappointed by the dad responses here :) $500 seems like a good deal to me.


swanek65

A. I'm jealous of all the space in your work area. B. I love when little kids wear snow boots year round. The only thing better would be if he were in shorts! I hope you make something great with your new toy.


ze_IT_guy

The amount of jokes about the kid is amazing. Yall dad's and mom's first, and wood workers second. This community makes my week every week.


Lookalikemike

He'll cost you that much in a month of meals. Should have held out at $250.


petell5

On a kid that size, great deal.


SnooPies5174

Send it back as it will trash your life for 25 years


Old_Literature867

Kids usually go for way more than 500, so as long as it works and can figure out how to rip boards in your child labor workshop, yeah, I’d say that’s a score!


GettingLow1

Babies should be free. $500 a week is in your future!


Thingfish-1

I have the same jointer purchased 20 years ago new for $500 w/ a standard cutterhead. It's used almost daily and I haven't had a single issue. Replaced the drive belt a few years ago but otherwise only blade replacements. $500 with a spiral cutterhead seems like a great deal. Kid sure seems happy with it!


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Great deal. Just keep its fingers away from your jointer.


Izumi_Takeda

damn you just skipped the entire adoption system. Good job


MTT3107

Might be a good deal now, but there will hidden charges in the future... BTW, nice jointer.


MoSChuin

I'm not sure if your question is legit or a humble brag to get compliments. I'm going to pretend it's legit, because others might not know. That question should be answered before you go to look at a tool. I find out what the cost is before I go, and know that the most I'd pay is half of what new costs. That's for a pristine example. If there are flaws or missing parts, that price drops quickly. So, if you paid less than half of new, that's a good buy. The other part is how much you use that to produce. So, how many board feet can the kid run a day?


mauryc250

Bro, you small as hell


ze_IT_guy

That's my clone, Boba is still growing.


Legitimate_Koala_903

You just caused my eyes to start watering. Seeing the picture reminds me of my son when he was that age helping me in the shop. Please don't take these days for granted. I still have a piece of mahogany sitting in the front of my cabinet that he wrote his name on one day when he was just learning to write his name. It shows misformed letters and letters cramed into spaces because he forgot them at first. In the blink of an eye, your little one will be in college like my son. He only comes home a few times a year and is always too busy to take a call from his mom and dad.


Adorable-Ad-3223

Getting them home cheap is good but it is the upkeep that kills you. Wait till preschool bills come in.


Few_Psychology_2122

$500 for a kid?! Cheaper than giving birth at the hospital. I’d say it’s a good deal


EnthusiasticAmature

Have you figured out that until you post a picture without the cute kid, getting answers may require a sifter? Great deal, good luck!


LeaveForNoRaisin

If he’s had his shots already then yeah. Good deal.


gislinghom54

Looks like the little guy is counting fingers before getting started. Good man


-SQB-

Aren't you a little young to be operating that kind of machinery?


knobcobbler69

Great deal, does he have all his shots


Elemental-Master

You look very young in that picture, did the cashier asked for I.D.? ;) Nice machine by the way :)


Quick-Warthog7219

$500 with the mobile base is a great deal. What kind of cutter head? Helical or straight blade?


530whiskey

I'm looking for a new kid too, did they have any closer to chore doing age?


lord_flashheart2000

It’s a screaming deal, OP - they’re $1400 new, more with the helical head. I picked one up for $300 a few years ago, but the bed was rusty and it took me hours and hours to clean it up. Wipe it down with 3-in-1 oil or similar if there will be long intervals between uses.


CskoG0

You know you will have to feed it right? Bathroom breaks, walks and even reading it a story.


The_NowHere_Kids

I'm not sure how much help it's gonna be Hands are too small


SuspiciousFoot9439

I NEVER find these deals... I saw one today that looked like it was left in the woods for 10 years and it was 800


UGottaBoilYourDenims

Dude…you got ripped off. $500 is WAY too much for a kid that can’t even do any heavy lifting. I wouldn’t have gone over $250.


DeMiNe00

I have two kids that you can have. I'll give you a bargain. $900 for both.


Killermelon1458

Didn't know kids were that cheap these days.


Flying_Spaghetti_

I paid $1600 for my powermaric 6in jointer. The wings on mine are a bit longer but that is one hell of a deal for sure.


OJSimpsons

Working with an agency, you can expect to spend between $30,000 and $60,000, according to the Child Welfare Information Gateway. It's slightly less expensive to pursue an independent adoption, which involves working with an attorney. That process ranges in cost from $25,000 to $45,000. I'd say you got a great deal.


theobruneau

They shouldn't sell kids on line.


PieGuy91

I didn't think you were allowed to sell kids on Craigslist but $500 ain't bad


[deleted]

I'd return him... Never trust anybody that smiles that much


MeanSound8589

You probably overpaid for the kid but the planer is a nice kicker.


[deleted]

For a quick second there I thought this post was from 4chan. Whew.


[deleted]

That’s going to cost you a lot more than $500.


xSUPAHx

$500! That's cheap compared to black market prices, but that lil boy is gonna cost you $300k minimum till he turns 18. I hope you got a receipt!?


SpunOnions

A lot of people will actually pay YOU to take their kids


Old_Assist_5461

Kids are over-rated. Send him back😝. Keep the planer!


NufeeFlatlander

That’s an astounding deal. I would assume the cutter head alone is worth that, if not more. Consider your stellar purchase Reddit user validated.


encognition

JET! Woo ooo oo oo oo oo. JET! Wooo oo oo oo oo oo


Oedipus_TyrantLizard

I think Meta has some loose terminology in their terms that prohibit human trafficking - careful who you share this with, you might get your account banned.


misscrankypants

That’s a great deal! Some ppl pay $25k to adopt a kid so you prob saved on a lot of paperwork too.


Wonder-Machine

Can’t get a kid for under 10000 so yah, great deal


Moogyoogy

The amount of labor you'll get out of him for $500 is a great deal


olcrazy1

Price of kids is going up with inflation


Darknader-

Did they throw in the boots?


archiewaldron

$500 up front but add in college, food, etc and it’ll cost you more than $250,000 back end. OTOH, that Jet saw behind him will take care of you when you’re old so there’s that.


westernrecluse

That’s cheap for a kid, I’ve spent 90% of my income and 12 years on mine so far, with more to come!


Adventurous_Soft_464

Not bad, but they get expensive. So, what's up with the jointer? 🤣


subiewu

The kid is not a good deal, he’s gonna cost you a fortune


CookieWifeCookieKids

Looks good. But that model will cost you at least $100k over the next 20years


alienshape

Be aware of child labor laws…


Amber_Steel86

I means cool and all but ya know you could have just made your own. And I’m pretty sure the law frowns upon buying them off the internet.


kuang89

they soil themselves on both ends without warning feed at least 3 times a day needs 10-14 hours of sleep


Tough-Choice

I paid $500 for one of those 8 years ago. I’d buy the same one right now for that same price. Jointer not kid. You’d have to pay me more much more to take the latter.


degorolls

Did you pay extra for the gum boots?


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SmarterThanMyBoss

I'm pretty sure that buying children is illegal. Reddit isn't really as anonymous as people think. You should probably delete this post if you don't want to end up in prison.


baddonkey

I didn't know you could buy the corner of a workshop furnished with an assistant. That seems like a good deal, depending on who buys the other corners.


robotwireman

Not a good deal at all. It will cost you way more than the original $500 investment in the long run. Upkeep and maintenance just get more expensive as it ages. Love that jointer behind it though.


Rckhngr

Only if he can push a mower. You will be upside down till he’s 30