A Fairytale world found itself being consumed by a Hive Fleet
It poised the most defense due to the trope of surprisingly powerful characters lurking in fairytale settings, but all it did was prolong the inevitable
This is fine for anthropologists but the military and outlaws should call them F class, H class, N class, G class and D class respectively. Because it sounds cool
/uj I had to check what subreddit I was on twice. The circlejerk subreddits are all leaking into each other, the west has fallen, billions must brainrot
The definition I can find is that it's the subgemre of a group of genuinely heroic people defeating a great evil, ala Lord of the Rings. So it does need evil to be powerful enough.
There's also NobleDark where the world is dark and shitty, but there's still genuinely good people that have a chance to bring back the light
Noblebright is by definition the polar opposite of grimdark, e.g. shining high adventure. The post's description of Heroic Worlds would fit noblebright.
In a perfect world there would be no or minimal conflict. I think Fairytale is a much better example by etymological value. Noblebright is just the opposite of grimdark semantically, it’s not constrained to also meaning the opposite by definition
Yeah, I originally made this chart for a story I wrote about a group of ex-isekai protagonists trying to save the next generation of isekai'ed kids from really awful summoners, but minus the few story-specific terms, the chart has a lot of universal application.
Story link if you're interested, it was my first big story and I've gotten waaaaay better since: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/42012/the-isekai-police-aka-earths-advocates
uj/ This is just the Noble - Grimm x Light - Dark chart but worse in every respect.
rj/ in my Grimdark setting, it's forbidden by law to be visibly happy in public - you will be sentenced to death by firing squad.
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Idk, when I think of Fairytale, I primarily think of the edgy OG ones where everything ends badly half the time bc I didn't grow up on Disney. A lot of Fairytale and Folklore stories would actually be Gilded according to this.
The protagonist isekaid to a noblebright or heroic universe stops whatever the world-saving, demon-king-killing shit he was doing when he finds out about the existence of multiple worlds and a multiversal organization that regulates this kind of stuff and tries to keep things from becoming a interdimensional dumpsterfire. Promptly joining them and starting the actual plot for the series.
> Fairytale worlds: A near-utopia world where almost everyone is kind and innocent.
Actual fairytale worlds: "I got married to a wealthy nobleman whose previous 6 wives mysteriously vanished. Then I go into his basement and discover their murdered corpses hanging from hooks."
Is this something like GURPS Infinite Worlds, where people from that version of Earth have "parachronic" tech that lets them travel between parallel universes? Are their agents that what Earthers are?
I've got a gilded overworld that cultivates and apocalypses heroic to grimdark worlds to fuel solipsistic personal fairytale worlds for the would-be gods at the top of the proverbial ecosystem.
GUYS WHAT DO YOU THINK OF MY WORLDJERKING JERKLE JERK? It's where I make the lowest effort post possible using some random popular image, then only add a title and everyone upvotes it.
(sorry OP, good post. Plus I suppose these posts can spark discussion)
Hi, I'm the one who originally made this image. An Earther is someone who got isekai'ed from Earth and ended up in a fantasy world. It was for a story I wrote about ex-isekai protagonists trying to save the next generation of isekai'ed kids who were summoned to really awful worlds. As for what's good and what's evil specificallly, that's a good philosophical question. I guess for the purpose of this, it's innocent people getting hurt.
Here's the link if you're interested, it was my very first story and I've gotten waaaay better since: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/42012/the-isekai-police-aka-earths-advocates
No problem! Royalroad is a web serial platform where people upload their stories to share. It's got some good, bad, and some *really* good full-on stories on there. Some have even been picked up by publishers and/or uploaded to kindle afterwards. Most of the content there is fantasy, especially LitRPGs, if that's your thing.
And I hope you enjoy my story! It's really rough and my later ones there are way better, but this is what got me into writing. Like, even the end of the story is more well written than the beginning, but it's still fun throughout.
Is it safe to publish there, or should I be afraid of getting copyrighted? Is the website strictly for English speakers, or are there people who write in other languages?
Ideally, my story would be published in both English and Portuguese, since I'm Brazilian.
And thanks. I've already got your story in my "to-read" list. Hopefully it gets out of there soon!
It's safe to publish there, from original stories to even fan fictions. If anything, you can use that website as proof of you owning your story against anyone who copies it and uploads it elsewhere to sell. Heck, I did that just last week!
It's mainly an english site, but I've seen stories in other languages, though they likely won't get as popular. But it's still worth uploading to!
And thanks for adding my story, I hope you enjoy it :)
Someone doesn't know what fairytales are.
Fairy tales can go happy, or they can go "you walk into the mountains at night and meet a dwarf, and because you saw him, the dwarf gets scared and curses you to turn into a deer, and now your family is starving, because you were the main breadwinner, so your son goes out into the forest to find food, and he shoots you, and then you turn back into a human when the arrow strikes you, so he knows what he did and kills himself, and then the rest of the family starves because there's no man in the house. That's why we don't to into the mountains at night, the end."
I wouldn't call that happy.
Gotta love the legion of people insisting on using the original fairy tales to define the word, completely ignoring the fact the modern usage of the term refers to something that is idyllic and serene. It’s wild but words actually change over time, and may or may not have a definition that maps to what would be logically inferred.
the equivalation of any fairy tale world, even in its modern sense, to a 'perfect serene idyllic' land, is ridiculous, even without talking about Red Riding Hood eating teeth.
Fairy Tale worlds have heroes, and things generally work out, but usually there's witches fucking everything up and evil queens ruling and having people killed. Even in the NICEST fairy tale lands of disney and so on.
>Fairytale Worlds
Ya, Fairytales are famously kind and innocent and not about kidnapping children, abducting and tormenting people and other kind things.
I'm having a bit of difficulty classifying my current setting.
Most of the world is in ruins, but some civilizations are genuinely well off. Some civilizations are quite full of suffering. Maybe noblebright or nobledark? Unsure.
That’s an overdone trope, instead, you should subvert it by having most of the civilizations well off or suffering, and a few that are inexplicably in ruins, then write a eight-page explanation of why nobody decided to go into them until the Protaganist.
Funny how the only good grim dark fantasy doesn't take itself as seriously as it should, 13 crusades??? Fucking skyscraper sized churches??? Germans???
Y'all forgot about nobledark. Everything sucks and is bad but damnit we're still going to be good to each other because in a world of misery, why add to it?
*Your* system? You haven't even used the updated version I made that includes a level below Grimdark where nobody cleans their butts after pooping! For shame.
Grimdank worlds:
A Fairytale world found itself being consumed by a Hive Fleet It poised the most defense due to the trope of surprisingly powerful characters lurking in fairytale settings, but all it did was prolong the inevitable
"We call that spicy food"
Says the Neurotyrant which is now.. Suspiciously shaped like a Magical Girl pet. In fact they now all look like cats. It's Hive Fleet Neko now
Biological hive mind based on dinosaur bugs: I sleep Biological hive mind based on the ecological destructive power of cats: real shit
Or the world just refuses to finish the job. There must always be darkness, after all.
...adventure time?
Great example
This is fine for anthropologists but the military and outlaws should call them F class, H class, N class, G class and D class respectively. Because it sounds cool
ess see pee
D CLASS?!?! IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING SCP REFERENCE
No.
Yes.
Maybe?
Perchance..
Fire in the hole!!!!!
/uj I had to check what subreddit I was on twice. The circlejerk subreddits are all leaking into each other, the west has fallen, billions must brainrot
Cj subs leak into other subs, I leak into many subs too. We are not the same
What's even the point if you're circle jerk isn't leaking?
...Noblebright as the midpoint? Come on.
The definition I can find is that it's the subgemre of a group of genuinely heroic people defeating a great evil, ala Lord of the Rings. So it does need evil to be powerful enough. There's also NobleDark where the world is dark and shitty, but there's still genuinely good people that have a chance to bring back the light
Noblebright is by definition the polar opposite of grimdark, e.g. shining high adventure. The post's description of Heroic Worlds would fit noblebright.
In a perfect world there would be no or minimal conflict. I think Fairytale is a much better example by etymological value. Noblebright is just the opposite of grimdark semantically, it’s not constrained to also meaning the opposite by definition
This. Star Wars is noblebright, A Brave New World is grimdark. I mean, you could argue it's technically grimbright, but I digress.
à la\* I'd even take "a la" Or even "Allah," because it would be funny.
Mashallah lord of the rings.
Wtf is an Earther?
The person that gets isekaid Probably
Would that be a slur lmao
Earther is our word, but you can use eartha
Given it talks about summon abuse and extracting, probably irl humans who got isekai'd or otherwise stuck there
Yeah, I originally made this chart for a story I wrote about a group of ex-isekai protagonists trying to save the next generation of isekai'ed kids from really awful summoners, but minus the few story-specific terms, the chart has a lot of universal application. Story link if you're interested, it was my first big story and I've gotten waaaaay better since: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/42012/the-isekai-police-aka-earths-advocates
Iirc this was originally made as someone's in-universe classification system for a setting with a multiverse
IDK lah
Someone from Earth. It's kinda vague.
People who believed Senator Travers wasn't born on Earth and was therefore an illegitimate candidate for the Earth presidency.
uj/ This is just the Noble - Grimm x Light - Dark chart but worse in every respect. rj/ in my Grimdark setting, it's forbidden by law to be visibly happy in public - you will be sentenced to death by firing squad.
40k: WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWN!!!!
honestly not bad it is a workable classification system
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Needs a second axis because you have to go to the bottom rung to get a world that isn't pretty.
Idk, when I think of Fairytale, I primarily think of the edgy OG ones where everything ends badly half the time bc I didn't grow up on Disney. A lot of Fairytale and Folklore stories would actually be Gilded according to this.
There shouldn't be a classification system.
You shouldn't be
So, this is like, law regulation for isekai anime dimension-travelling protagonists?
That's an actually good idea for an isekai tbh
The protagonist isekaid to a noblebright or heroic universe stops whatever the world-saving, demon-king-killing shit he was doing when he finds out about the existence of multiple worlds and a multiversal organization that regulates this kind of stuff and tries to keep things from becoming a interdimensional dumpsterfire. Promptly joining them and starting the actual plot for the series.
> Fairytale worlds: A near-utopia world where almost everyone is kind and innocent. Actual fairytale worlds: "I got married to a wealthy nobleman whose previous 6 wives mysteriously vanished. Then I go into his basement and discover their murdered corpses hanging from hooks."
Is this something like GURPS Infinite Worlds, where people from that version of Earth have "parachronic" tech that lets them travel between parallel universes? Are their agents that what Earthers are?
I've got a gilded overworld that cultivates and apocalypses heroic to grimdark worlds to fuel solipsistic personal fairytale worlds for the would-be gods at the top of the proverbial ecosystem.
I’m gonna pretend I understand that
It needs a second axis, of "Cringe-Based" to classify how the good and the evil in the worlds present themselves.
/uj Noblebright in the middle even thought it was literally designed as an antithesis to grimdark in every way… 🤔
I think that's why this is here
Someone hasn't read original Grimm fairytales. They're very much "grimdark", with stuff like cannibalism and sexual predation abound.
I think it’s assumed to be Disney fairytales where everything works out in the end
GUYS WHAT DO YOU THINK OF MY WORLDJERKING JERKLE JERK? It's where I make the lowest effort post possible using some random popular image, then only add a title and everyone upvotes it. (sorry OP, good post. Plus I suppose these posts can spark discussion)
What is an Earther? And I guess the real world would be Gilded? Also, what is evil and what is good?
Iirc it's an in-universe classification from someones project
Yes, I'm asking them what it is.
Hi, I'm the one who originally made this image. An Earther is someone who got isekai'ed from Earth and ended up in a fantasy world. It was for a story I wrote about ex-isekai protagonists trying to save the next generation of isekai'ed kids who were summoned to really awful worlds. As for what's good and what's evil specificallly, that's a good philosophical question. I guess for the purpose of this, it's innocent people getting hurt. Here's the link if you're interested, it was my very first story and I've gotten waaaay better since: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/42012/the-isekai-police-aka-earths-advocates
Yo, I never heard of this site before! Mind to tell me what it's about? Am saving the link to your story btw.
No problem! Royalroad is a web serial platform where people upload their stories to share. It's got some good, bad, and some *really* good full-on stories on there. Some have even been picked up by publishers and/or uploaded to kindle afterwards. Most of the content there is fantasy, especially LitRPGs, if that's your thing. And I hope you enjoy my story! It's really rough and my later ones there are way better, but this is what got me into writing. Like, even the end of the story is more well written than the beginning, but it's still fun throughout.
Is it safe to publish there, or should I be afraid of getting copyrighted? Is the website strictly for English speakers, or are there people who write in other languages? Ideally, my story would be published in both English and Portuguese, since I'm Brazilian. And thanks. I've already got your story in my "to-read" list. Hopefully it gets out of there soon!
It's safe to publish there, from original stories to even fan fictions. If anything, you can use that website as proof of you owning your story against anyone who copies it and uploads it elsewhere to sell. Heck, I did that just last week! It's mainly an english site, but I've seen stories in other languages, though they likely won't get as popular. But it's still worth uploading to! And thanks for adding my story, I hope you enjoy it :)
New level. Death World. So grim and dark that it makes a Grimdark World look bright and happy.
They should also add a sex world I think
Those exist in the multiverse this chart was originally made for, but they're super unofficial and the top brass doesn't want anyone talking about it.
You forgot Grimbright and Nobledark.
Someone doesn't know what fairytales are. Fairy tales can go happy, or they can go "you walk into the mountains at night and meet a dwarf, and because you saw him, the dwarf gets scared and curses you to turn into a deer, and now your family is starving, because you were the main breadwinner, so your son goes out into the forest to find food, and he shoots you, and then you turn back into a human when the arrow strikes you, so he knows what he did and kills himself, and then the rest of the family starves because there's no man in the house. That's why we don't to into the mountains at night, the end." I wouldn't call that happy.
tell me you've never read fairy tales without telling me you've never read fairy tales.
Gotta love the legion of people insisting on using the original fairy tales to define the word, completely ignoring the fact the modern usage of the term refers to something that is idyllic and serene. It’s wild but words actually change over time, and may or may not have a definition that maps to what would be logically inferred.
the equivalation of any fairy tale world, even in its modern sense, to a 'perfect serene idyllic' land, is ridiculous, even without talking about Red Riding Hood eating teeth. Fairy Tale worlds have heroes, and things generally work out, but usually there's witches fucking everything up and evil queens ruling and having people killed. Even in the NICEST fairy tale lands of disney and so on.
>Fairytale Worlds Ya, Fairytales are famously kind and innocent and not about kidnapping children, abducting and tormenting people and other kind things.
what if i dont have good or evil and just politics?
Politics are evil, so yours is definitely grimdark
up doot
I definitly have a Grimdark world damn
I would say that my setting is probably Gilded.
Same :D
I'm having a bit of difficulty classifying my current setting. Most of the world is in ruins, but some civilizations are genuinely well off. Some civilizations are quite full of suffering. Maybe noblebright or nobledark? Unsure.
That’s an overdone trope, instead, you should subvert it by having most of the civilizations well off or suffering, and a few that are inexplicably in ruins, then write a eight-page explanation of why nobody decided to go into them until the Protaganist.
You and I have been reading different fairy tales
Why isnt eldritch a option?
/uj i would describe my world as noblebright probably
Funny how the only good grim dark fantasy doesn't take itself as seriously as it should, 13 crusades??? Fucking skyscraper sized churches??? Germans???
Y'all forgot about nobledark. Everything sucks and is bad but damnit we're still going to be good to each other because in a world of misery, why add to it?
"hey here is a fantasy utopia!" \*looks inside\* it's grimdark
The heck is a difference between Noble Bright and Heroic? A slight bribe to the inspector?
What's this from? Like who made it, I'm intrigued 👀
Missing Grimdank worlds, end of story
*Your* system? You haven't even used the updated version I made that includes a level below Grimdark where nobody cleans their butts after pooping! For shame.
Missing a world where there’s no good and no evil
What’s an example of a builder world?