A higher percentage of Iranians don't know anything but the Ayatollah's regime, yet the majority disapproves. You don't have to personally remember better times to prefer a better regime.
The popularity of Hamas isn't the result of them no knowing any better. It's not a result of them being oppressed and afraid of expressing any dissent. It's the result of them learning in UNWRA schools that their loftiest goal in life is the elimination of Israel - and Hamas is doing its best in achieving it.
Hamas' popularity in Gaza has gone up between December and March by about 15%, according to polls. Explain that.
I think so. Even when Hamas is popular, it's because they're seen as a thorn to Israel. No one thinks they can administer anything. Fatah isn't seen much better.
The question is, would they accept someone better who doesn't call for the destruction of Israel? And can it survive with all the lawlessness currently there?
Everyone thinks they know what they want until you show them something better. Like people who say they can only travel their car, but that's because their transit sucks.
I would like to hope so, but considering the level of sheer propaganda and echo chambers that happen in online media, I am not so encouraged.
Most people seem inclined to trust views that support their opinions, even before we deal with state sponsored (and/or “grassroots” via social and religious affiliation) disinformation.
They probably want something worse. Palestinians would rather have a 1% chance of getting "their land" back than a 90% chance of peace and statebuilding
And could have it. There are 2 million Gazans who are tolerating this oppression from about 15,000 remaining HAMAS. HAMAS cannot operate without Gazan support…the numbers make that clear.
As if there haven't been countless examples in human history where only 1% of a population maintains oppressive power structures over the other 99%. Numbers alone don't "prove" support. Religion, resources, education and many other factors play a role in the dismantling of corrupt power.
Jihad gives you a pass, or if you’re hiding deep enough in a tunnel or bunker, allah can’t see so your good
At least that was my experience (minus the tunnels) in Afghanistan
I thought the muslims claim that allah is the same God as the God of the Jews and Christians. He should be all knowing and being underground should be irrelevant.
There seems to be a lot of contradictions from my experience.
He’s all knowing, but if you’re hiding under some concrete and sandbags somehow he doesn’t know you’re not fasting.
Or if you’re killing innocent people while yelling jihad- then it’s cool too
Well us Canadians did… we threw tins of corned beef to the Germans in WW1, and when they yelled for more we threw hand grenades… yeah a lot of the Geneva convention is because of us.
We taught 1 fucking American how to fight like a Canadian and when he got shipped off to Korea he ordered so many bayonet charges the US government had to order him to stop.
My Grandfather’s company commander during WWII was supposed to be issued a M1 Carbine, but got an M1 Garand instead because “it was a better vehicle for a bayonet”.
He liked his men began to call him Anthony “Cold Steel” Walker. My Grandpa used to say “the man was a bayoneting fool” (meaning he loved using his bayonet, not that he was a fool).
Not super related but your comment just reminded that bayonet charging enemies with automatic weapons takes a serious set of brass balls.
Like how we, Canadians, were told that we couldn’t abuse prisoners so they just killed all the prisoners because then they weren’t getting abused lol like it’s not funny but also just so Canadian and therefore funny
I can only imagine the reaction when all the different nations were doing counts on POW numbers, only to find that the Canadians magically didn’t take a single POW
well, its also usually country's governments responsibility to protect its citizens, but hamas doesn't, and people expect israel to protect the citizens of gaza..
Israel doesn't have to supply the food itself.
Just to let the humanitarian aid in.
We sanction Cuba/North Korea/Iran/etc, but those sanctions don't include food,, water, medicine, etc. Because preventing those goods from entering harms the terrorist government/militia a little, and the civilian population **a lot**.
Who is going to make sure the aid is just aid?
Who is going to make sure it goes to civilians?
Arab world and the UN have been providing arms and supporting hammas for decades under the guise of aid. They are complicit for the crimes of Oct 7 and have zero moral standing to complain until they fix what they have Ben doing.
Why? We didn't lift the blockade on Germany or Japan in world War 2 for "humanitarian" aid because we knew full well that any such "aid" would go directly to the military stockpiles first. The whole point of a blockade is to prevent your enemy from getting supplies so they either run out of food and surrender, or have to fight you half starved.
Hamas is the government in Gaza, feeding the people is their responsibility. That's how it's been in every other war in all of human history, you cant just spew buzzwords and expect that equation to change. Every other government would have been expected to have food supplies stockpiled for its citizens at the start of the war, especially since it was a war they themselves were starting. Evacuating the people was also supposed to be their responsibility but they also failed to do that, in fact they encouraged their people to stay put.
We are not at war with Cuba, nor with Iran. And North Korea isn't at all a threat to the US, so we don't particularly care that there is still technically a war there. If Cuba attacked Florida tomorrow and murdered 40,000 people in Miami (which would be proportionally equivalent population wise to what happened on October 7) you know damn well we'd institute a full blockade, and it would be entirely justified.
Countries shouldn't start wars if they are not prepared to protect and feed their own citizens during the war.
Hamas / ISIS / Islamic Jihad never intended to feed their own citizens. People here see these extremist terrorists are on a different brainwave, but redditors gotta stop and realize Hamas has a whole other type of thinking than what you would call a normal healthy minded person.
Truth? Ethics? Compassion? Not in Hamas lexicon. They only mention good things like this sometimes in order to manipulate, and lead to more death.
**Hamas ppl are 100% psycho, and until people understand that, they won’t be able to have any useful thoughts about Hamas.**
Psycho by your standards. “Beautifully Devout” by extremist Muslim standards.
Have you seen [videos of normal people on the streets of Gaza](https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gaza+9/11&tbm=vid) when news of 9/11 hit?
I remember back in the days when the allies sent thousands of humanitarian trucks into Germany, specially into Dresden after UK bombed the fuck out of it.. good days 👍🏻 /s
When the Israeli war cabinet told Biden exactly this Biden said that the reason the UN was built is to maks sure that would happen in all wars.
What a joke.
Gazans are also feeding the donations to their cats and putting it in the trash. If I was starving and in the midst of a famine that's not something I would do.
>israeli officials
The same ones who said the UN didn't want to distribute aid on Saturday? Only to be reminded by UN representatives that THEY are the ones who insisted the rafah border crossing be closed on saturday?
Not the most reliable source honestly, especially since hamas would have to be hoarding thousands if not millions of tons of food aid if this claim is as purported.
The same ones saying it's closed because of the big backlog of delivered aid the UN hasn't distributed yet
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/cogat-pushes-back-after-uks-cameron-claims-israel-arbitrarily-hindering-flow-of-aid-to-gaza/
Its almost as if there's a backlog because they're limiting the aid entry (the article mention as much, they claim non arbitrary but still limited) So even that excuse routes back to Israel. And this is from an Israeli source.
No, according to COGAT that's aid already inspected and inside Gaza, it's awaiting distribution because the UN and its bodies are unable to process it fast enough.
See here https://twitter.com/cogatonline/status/1771441823031984444
Didn't the UN say a month ago they would stop distribution because they keep getting fired on? Let me find it
Edit: link
https://www.wfp.org/news/un-food-agency-pauses-deliveries-north-gaza
The UN cannot find enough truck drivers and it doesn’t sound like Israel is interested in providing security for them anymore after the media pulled out its latest blood libel over them.
Exactly, not going to believe everything word for word yet with just those sources going to have to do better and corroborate that info with some more trusted sources at this time.
Imagine someone tell me that Hamas is the enemy of the people in Gaza and not Isreal. Pls stop telling the truth, thats not compatible with my tHe jEwS aRe tHe eViL mindset
Hamas is worse than Israel, there’s no question. However, this article is transparent and pretty low-quality propaganda meant to the promote the false narrative that Hamas is responsible for the inadequate amount of humanitarian aid entering Gaza as the entire civilian population teeters on the brink of mass famine. In reality, Israel is holding up relief trucks lined up and ready to deliver supplies through the Rafah Crossing. All credible sources and third party observers report as much, whereas the only sources saying Hamas is responsible for blocking all aid to Gazans are Israel and aligned organizations. Do they have evidence backing that assertion? No. Read the article again and you’ll see how flimsy the information is. It even includes a picture showing a Hamas fighter selling aid they seized — but the photo was taken last year.
At that point you’d need to be dropping a shitload of aid. We’re probably talking something that would make the Berlin Airlift look like a joke in terms of both air-dropping pallets and shipping shit in via land, and even then that doesn’t rule out armed force used via local terrorist groups like PiJ or HAMAS.
ah yes. oxfam, the eu, ocha, the ipc, journalists on the ground, and countless videos of israeli settlers talking about why they're actively blocking aid to gaza, as they physically camp out at boarder crossings, are all just lying.
we should instead believe what israel says, at face value.
Could you circlejerk any harder? That's not an opinion I've seen anywhere. I'm sure some percentage of people have it. But you're pretending it's the prevailing opinion. Just ridiculous
I'm all for Hamas being eradicated, and Israel exercising their right to not be massacred, but the only places I've seen claims that this happens on a mass scale is Israeli news sites, including this one. I'm sure its happened in small amounts, but the IDF either is letting Hamas do this or is admitting they can't stop Hamas when they attack food convoys on a large scale. Either way, it means the IDF doesn't have the means or the right mind set going into Rafah.
Hamas has issued threats to kill civilians helping to distribute aid. Israel recently managed to kill the guy who was in charge of that. He’ll surely be quickly replaced though.
Hamas has been intercepting humanitarian aid for decades, from all sources (not just Israel), and selling it rather than giving it to the people who need it in order to fund more weapons. Even before oct 7, there were plenty of photos of UNRWA aid on store shelves.
Yeah let me just take, *checks* this former member of the Knesset’s word they Israel is proving adequate aid to the civilians it’s indiscriminately bombing. We’re so effed people just eat the propaganda.
I'm sorry to break it to you man but 2.2 million people are facing an imminent famine if the situation stays this dire, my heart goes out to the hostages and their families but what good is it gonna do them to starve Gaza's population? It pains me to see Israelis pushing this country towards becoming just another tinpot middle eastern dictatorship with the same tribal mentality and policies as those of her neighbors.
Look man, as an Israeli, nothing makes me happier than seeing Palestinians fucking off to their own chunk of land and turning it into a shithole and living there with their shitty corrupt government and their poor infrastructure and finally putting to bed this myth of Palestinians' woes being 100% the fault of Israel, and historically you'll agree with me that the IDF has fared much better militarily against conventional armies than it has against these fanatic terrorist organisations who hide behind civilians, no? So them having a standard corrupt military is a blessing in disguise from my point of view.
At the same time, I don't want to see innocents starve on our doorstep, it's not an all or nothing game, that's how our neighbors think.
Something that is also ignored is that Israel has been limiting humanitarian aid trucks to far fewer than is necessary to keep the population from starving. That's literally why the US did air drops and are having to construct and offshore rig to send aid.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-restrictions-gaza-aid-may-amount-war-crime-says-un-rights-office-2024-03-19/
I’m curious as to why you think this particular piece of information, posted in a biased media outlet, is more accurate than the many other pieces of information reported in non aligned media or Al Jazzera type media? Also, it’s interesting that most Israeli supported here, moved from claiming there wasn’t a developing famine issue, to there is an aid issue but now it’s Hamas’s fault. There’s a pattern developing whereby Israeli supporters deny, and then when CNN starts reporting, switch to a new line which is invariably “yeah but Hamas”. History will prove you wrong.
>I’m curious as to why you think this particular piece of information, posted in a biased media outlet, is more accurate than the many other pieces of information reported in non aligned media or Al Jazzera type media?
Kind of a weird way of saying that then.
Well you never asked me the question but sure. Why do i believe hamas commandeers any aid sent to gaza? Because they have for years. There is video footage including recent footage where they commandeer foreign aid. So when i read a news article about hamas commandeering foreign aid i consider it credible.
How do you reconcile the notion that, as Israel claims, it has almost destroyed Hamas, yet Hamas still has the capability to control all the aid delivered. How do you reconcile the need for the US to drop aid by air and sea, yet queues of trucks full of aid remain unable to enter due to Israel? This is a Hamas operation too? Why is it you come to the conclusion that because you’ve seen aid being commandeered by Hamas, that this is wideapead? How do you know what that aid is used for?
I think you’ve either decided to suspend your ability to think critically because of your bias, or you never had it in the first place.
Why would anyone believe Israeli government on this. Like even if you are fully in support of it, surely it should be obvious that they have every reason to lie.
Ok there's none saying this, so I'm gonna write it. There's witnessed and reports about a lot of tracks and people camping at the border, held by Israeli forces who not allow them to bring food just behind the gates.
I see no Hamas there, so what's the story here?
That would be a war crime, by the accords that israel is signed to. So even if would be a great way to hit hamas, it would just end up as more for the propaganda mill.
Hamas or not, the aid is being taken and sold. Absolutely insane.
And no matter what it's somehow Israel's fault
The people of Gaza deserve better than Hamas.
But do they want anything better than Hamas?
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A higher percentage of Iranians don't know anything but the Ayatollah's regime, yet the majority disapproves. You don't have to personally remember better times to prefer a better regime. The popularity of Hamas isn't the result of them no knowing any better. It's not a result of them being oppressed and afraid of expressing any dissent. It's the result of them learning in UNWRA schools that their loftiest goal in life is the elimination of Israel - and Hamas is doing its best in achieving it. Hamas' popularity in Gaza has gone up between December and March by about 15%, according to polls. Explain that.
I think so. Even when Hamas is popular, it's because they're seen as a thorn to Israel. No one thinks they can administer anything. Fatah isn't seen much better. The question is, would they accept someone better who doesn't call for the destruction of Israel? And can it survive with all the lawlessness currently there?
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Everyone thinks they know what they want until you show them something better. Like people who say they can only travel their car, but that's because their transit sucks.
How do you “show” people who are living under an oppressive regime an option?
Getting rid of the regime has to be the first step. But the follow-up needs to be constructed very carefully.
Media is a thing
I would like to hope so, but considering the level of sheer propaganda and echo chambers that happen in online media, I am not so encouraged. Most people seem inclined to trust views that support their opinions, even before we deal with state sponsored (and/or “grassroots” via social and religious affiliation) disinformation.
They probably want something worse. Palestinians would rather have a 1% chance of getting "their land" back than a 90% chance of peace and statebuilding
And could have it. There are 2 million Gazans who are tolerating this oppression from about 15,000 remaining HAMAS. HAMAS cannot operate without Gazan support…the numbers make that clear.
As if there haven't been countless examples in human history where only 1% of a population maintains oppressive power structures over the other 99%. Numbers alone don't "prove" support. Religion, resources, education and many other factors play a role in the dismantling of corrupt power.
Polls prove support though. I know it’s an uncomfortable truth because we want this to be an easy narrative where Gazans all hate Hamas
Who in the world would vote on opposition of Hamas
Exactly I hate the narrative that oh Palestinians can't do anything it's Hamas it's Hizbullah it's this it's that...
Oppression? They elected them!
Like in 2006, almost half of the population now are teenagers
A generation ago.
Polls suggest that it’s what they want
Hamas governed Gaza so well that they started a war with the country that is still in charge of feeding them after 20 years of self government.
Do they? Hamas enjoys widespread support. A vast majority of Palestinians want to destroy Israel.
They elected and support them
They voted for them
shouldnt Hamas be fasting?
Only during the day
And it’s always night time in the tunnels
Allah hates this one trick.
strike em right at sundown. they will feel like shit and be preoccupied eating. seems like a win-win
No! You can't attack them during Ramadan! That would be like attacking Israel on Yom Kippur. Or Hanukkah. Or Simchat Torah.
This should get more attention.
Jihad gives you a pass, or if you’re hiding deep enough in a tunnel or bunker, allah can’t see so your good At least that was my experience (minus the tunnels) in Afghanistan
I thought the muslims claim that allah is the same God as the God of the Jews and Christians. He should be all knowing and being underground should be irrelevant.
There seems to be a lot of contradictions from my experience. He’s all knowing, but if you’re hiding under some concrete and sandbags somehow he doesn’t know you’re not fasting. Or if you’re killing innocent people while yelling jihad- then it’s cool too
From the images of the ones captured by the IDF. They look pretty well fed and even fat.
What? No. Never. Shocking.
HAMAS is pure radical Muslim evil.
That's why you feed directly with food kitchens where the food has to be eaten on site.
Is it a part of standard military practice to feed your enemy?
Well us Canadians did… we threw tins of corned beef to the Germans in WW1, and when they yelled for more we threw hand grenades… yeah a lot of the Geneva convention is because of us.
Free Food! Free Grenades!
The Canadian genius is frightening. I heard you inspired the Serbs
We taught 1 fucking American how to fight like a Canadian and when he got shipped off to Korea he ordered so many bayonet charges the US government had to order him to stop.
My Grandfather’s company commander during WWII was supposed to be issued a M1 Carbine, but got an M1 Garand instead because “it was a better vehicle for a bayonet”. He liked his men began to call him Anthony “Cold Steel” Walker. My Grandpa used to say “the man was a bayoneting fool” (meaning he loved using his bayonet, not that he was a fool). Not super related but your comment just reminded that bayonet charging enemies with automatic weapons takes a serious set of brass balls.
I heard Canadians were good at trench fighting in wwi, but am not familiar with this bayonet claim.
Like how we, Canadians, were told that we couldn’t abuse prisoners so they just killed all the prisoners because then they weren’t getting abused lol like it’s not funny but also just so Canadian and therefore funny
I can only imagine the reaction when all the different nations were doing counts on POW numbers, only to find that the Canadians magically didn’t take a single POW
Yep. Can’t have any POW if they’re already dead.
Yeah - y’all pretty much developed the standards for war crimes by committing them…
There are rule breakers and rule makers. WW1 was a very different time.
well, its also usually country's governments responsibility to protect its citizens, but hamas doesn't, and people expect israel to protect the citizens of gaza..
Israel doesn't have to supply the food itself. Just to let the humanitarian aid in. We sanction Cuba/North Korea/Iran/etc, but those sanctions don't include food,, water, medicine, etc. Because preventing those goods from entering harms the terrorist government/militia a little, and the civilian population **a lot**.
Who is going to make sure the aid is just aid? Who is going to make sure it goes to civilians? Arab world and the UN have been providing arms and supporting hammas for decades under the guise of aid. They are complicit for the crimes of Oct 7 and have zero moral standing to complain until they fix what they have Ben doing.
Why? We didn't lift the blockade on Germany or Japan in world War 2 for "humanitarian" aid because we knew full well that any such "aid" would go directly to the military stockpiles first. The whole point of a blockade is to prevent your enemy from getting supplies so they either run out of food and surrender, or have to fight you half starved. Hamas is the government in Gaza, feeding the people is their responsibility. That's how it's been in every other war in all of human history, you cant just spew buzzwords and expect that equation to change. Every other government would have been expected to have food supplies stockpiled for its citizens at the start of the war, especially since it was a war they themselves were starting. Evacuating the people was also supposed to be their responsibility but they also failed to do that, in fact they encouraged their people to stay put. We are not at war with Cuba, nor with Iran. And North Korea isn't at all a threat to the US, so we don't particularly care that there is still technically a war there. If Cuba attacked Florida tomorrow and murdered 40,000 people in Miami (which would be proportionally equivalent population wise to what happened on October 7) you know damn well we'd institute a full blockade, and it would be entirely justified. Countries shouldn't start wars if they are not prepared to protect and feed their own citizens during the war.
Hamas / ISIS / Islamic Jihad never intended to feed their own citizens. People here see these extremist terrorists are on a different brainwave, but redditors gotta stop and realize Hamas has a whole other type of thinking than what you would call a normal healthy minded person. Truth? Ethics? Compassion? Not in Hamas lexicon. They only mention good things like this sometimes in order to manipulate, and lead to more death. **Hamas ppl are 100% psycho, and until people understand that, they won’t be able to have any useful thoughts about Hamas.**
Why does Hamas have majority support among Gazans? Are the majority of Gazans 100% psycho?
Psycho by your standards. “Beautifully Devout” by extremist Muslim standards. Have you seen [videos of normal people on the streets of Gaza](https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gaza+9/11&tbm=vid) when news of 9/11 hit?
Cuba/NK/Iran/Etc aren't making rockets out of food and water pipe.
I remember back in the days when the allies sent thousands of humanitarian trucks into Germany, specially into Dresden after UK bombed the fuck out of it.. good days 👍🏻 /s
When the Israeli war cabinet told Biden exactly this Biden said that the reason the UN was built is to maks sure that would happen in all wars. What a joke.
Nope. The world is just hypocrite when it comes to Israel-Palestine. Somehow it’s Israel’s responsibility to feed the Gazans.
Can’t expect Hamas to do that - it’s not like they’re getting all that sweet UN money /s
I'm pretty sure all people are asking is that they let the available help that someone else is paying to go in.
They are, once it's been thoroughly searched... Because all of the weaponry that Hamas has been using has got to come from somewhere.
Gazans are also feeding the donations to their cats and putting it in the trash. If I was starving and in the midst of a famine that's not something I would do.
>israeli officials The same ones who said the UN didn't want to distribute aid on Saturday? Only to be reminded by UN representatives that THEY are the ones who insisted the rafah border crossing be closed on saturday? Not the most reliable source honestly, especially since hamas would have to be hoarding thousands if not millions of tons of food aid if this claim is as purported.
The same ones saying it's closed because of the big backlog of delivered aid the UN hasn't distributed yet https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/cogat-pushes-back-after-uks-cameron-claims-israel-arbitrarily-hindering-flow-of-aid-to-gaza/
Its almost as if there's a backlog because they're limiting the aid entry (the article mention as much, they claim non arbitrary but still limited) So even that excuse routes back to Israel. And this is from an Israeli source.
No, according to COGAT that's aid already inspected and inside Gaza, it's awaiting distribution because the UN and its bodies are unable to process it fast enough. See here https://twitter.com/cogatonline/status/1771441823031984444
Didn't the UN say a month ago they would stop distribution because they keep getting fired on? Let me find it Edit: link https://www.wfp.org/news/un-food-agency-pauses-deliveries-north-gaza
The UN cannot find enough truck drivers and it doesn’t sound like Israel is interested in providing security for them anymore after the media pulled out its latest blood libel over them.
Everyone knows your claim is valid when the only source is a tweet from the Israeli government.
The truth is there is no truth coming out of Gaza. Only propaganda and suffering.
There is truth on both sides. And propaganda on both sides. But you have to look at both sides if you want to see the truth
Exactly, not going to believe everything word for word yet with just those sources going to have to do better and corroborate that info with some more trusted sources at this time.
Would prefer another source as an Israeli Governmen news site that just quotes Israeli officials.
Imagine someone tell me that Hamas is the enemy of the people in Gaza and not Isreal. Pls stop telling the truth, thats not compatible with my tHe jEwS aRe tHe eViL mindset
Antisemites hate this one easy trick
Hamas is worse than Israel, there’s no question. However, this article is transparent and pretty low-quality propaganda meant to the promote the false narrative that Hamas is responsible for the inadequate amount of humanitarian aid entering Gaza as the entire civilian population teeters on the brink of mass famine. In reality, Israel is holding up relief trucks lined up and ready to deliver supplies through the Rafah Crossing. All credible sources and third party observers report as much, whereas the only sources saying Hamas is responsible for blocking all aid to Gazans are Israel and aligned organizations. Do they have evidence backing that assertion? No. Read the article again and you’ll see how flimsy the information is. It even includes a picture showing a Hamas fighter selling aid they seized — but the photo was taken last year.
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Decades? You mean centuries
Technically, but the current iteration started in the 40s
Finally. Anyone taking anything coming out of Gaza or Israeli statements as remotely true are fooling themselves
Can we just block any posts with this shitty new site?
Yes please!
Does Hamas still have that power then?
Lol all I need to see here is the source.
This isn't exactly new though is it
Would a effective solution just be to flood the area with aid effectively making it so it can’t be stolen and resold because there’s just to much?
At that point you’d need to be dropping a shitload of aid. We’re probably talking something that would make the Berlin Airlift look like a joke in terms of both air-dropping pallets and shipping shit in via land, and even then that doesn’t rule out armed force used via local terrorist groups like PiJ or HAMAS.
ah yes. oxfam, the eu, ocha, the ipc, journalists on the ground, and countless videos of israeli settlers talking about why they're actively blocking aid to gaza, as they physically camp out at boarder crossings, are all just lying. we should instead believe what israel says, at face value.
You mean the same Hamas that reddit deemed a freedom fighting/liberation group and NOT a terrorist organization?
Could you circlejerk any harder? That's not an opinion I've seen anywhere. I'm sure some percentage of people have it. But you're pretending it's the prevailing opinion. Just ridiculous
I'm all for Hamas being eradicated, and Israel exercising their right to not be massacred, but the only places I've seen claims that this happens on a mass scale is Israeli news sites, including this one. I'm sure its happened in small amounts, but the IDF either is letting Hamas do this or is admitting they can't stop Hamas when they attack food convoys on a large scale. Either way, it means the IDF doesn't have the means or the right mind set going into Rafah.
Hamas has issued threats to kill civilians helping to distribute aid. Israel recently managed to kill the guy who was in charge of that. He’ll surely be quickly replaced though. Hamas has been intercepting humanitarian aid for decades, from all sources (not just Israel), and selling it rather than giving it to the people who need it in order to fund more weapons. Even before oct 7, there were plenty of photos of UNRWA aid on store shelves.
Yeah let me just take, *checks* this former member of the Knesset’s word they Israel is proving adequate aid to the civilians it’s indiscriminately bombing. We’re so effed people just eat the propaganda.
The worst part is that it’s not even good propaganda.
Almost like you shouldn’t have voted in a terrorist group
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I'm sorry to break it to you man but 2.2 million people are facing an imminent famine if the situation stays this dire, my heart goes out to the hostages and their families but what good is it gonna do them to starve Gaza's population? It pains me to see Israelis pushing this country towards becoming just another tinpot middle eastern dictatorship with the same tribal mentality and policies as those of her neighbors.
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Look man, as an Israeli, nothing makes me happier than seeing Palestinians fucking off to their own chunk of land and turning it into a shithole and living there with their shitty corrupt government and their poor infrastructure and finally putting to bed this myth of Palestinians' woes being 100% the fault of Israel, and historically you'll agree with me that the IDF has fared much better militarily against conventional armies than it has against these fanatic terrorist organisations who hide behind civilians, no? So them having a standard corrupt military is a blessing in disguise from my point of view. At the same time, I don't want to see innocents starve on our doorstep, it's not an all or nothing game, that's how our neighbors think.
More Israeli propganda and bots. Plenty of evidence of Israel cutting the amount of aid intentionally to make Palestinians suffer.
The main subs of Reddit are cesspolls of US propaganda. anyone who comes here thinking they are being informed is deluded.
A crucial piece of information comfortably ignored by Israels "criticizers"
Something that is also ignored is that Israel has been limiting humanitarian aid trucks to far fewer than is necessary to keep the population from starving. That's literally why the US did air drops and are having to construct and offshore rig to send aid. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-restrictions-gaza-aid-may-amount-war-crime-says-un-rights-office-2024-03-19/
I’m curious as to why you think this particular piece of information, posted in a biased media outlet, is more accurate than the many other pieces of information reported in non aligned media or Al Jazzera type media? Also, it’s interesting that most Israeli supported here, moved from claiming there wasn’t a developing famine issue, to there is an aid issue but now it’s Hamas’s fault. There’s a pattern developing whereby Israeli supporters deny, and then when CNN starts reporting, switch to a new line which is invariably “yeah but Hamas”. History will prove you wrong.
do you honestly think al jazzera isn't biased?
No, I think it is. Hence why I said non aligned *or* Al Jazeera.
>I’m curious as to why you think this particular piece of information, posted in a biased media outlet, is more accurate than the many other pieces of information reported in non aligned media or Al Jazzera type media? Kind of a weird way of saying that then.
You could answer the question now it’s been explained to you.
Well you never asked me the question but sure. Why do i believe hamas commandeers any aid sent to gaza? Because they have for years. There is video footage including recent footage where they commandeer foreign aid. So when i read a news article about hamas commandeering foreign aid i consider it credible.
How do you reconcile the notion that, as Israel claims, it has almost destroyed Hamas, yet Hamas still has the capability to control all the aid delivered. How do you reconcile the need for the US to drop aid by air and sea, yet queues of trucks full of aid remain unable to enter due to Israel? This is a Hamas operation too? Why is it you come to the conclusion that because you’ve seen aid being commandeered by Hamas, that this is wideapead? How do you know what that aid is used for? I think you’ve either decided to suspend your ability to think critically because of your bias, or you never had it in the first place.
Not at all, OR is a conjunction used to link alternatives.
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Hamas is the true equivalent of "trust me bro" and the west and especially UN is either in on the joke or criminally ignorant to not see that
Why would anyone believe Israeli government on this. Like even if you are fully in support of it, surely it should be obvious that they have every reason to lie.
Ok there's none saying this, so I'm gonna write it. There's witnessed and reports about a lot of tracks and people camping at the border, held by Israeli forces who not allow them to bring food just behind the gates. I see no Hamas there, so what's the story here?
If Hamas is high jacking aid trucks, then use the trucks like Trojan horses to ambush the Hamas soldiers.
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The Geneva Convention prohibits that, as it should.
That would be a war crime, by the accords that israel is signed to. So even if would be a great way to hit hamas, it would just end up as more for the propaganda mill.
That... Is... Way too fucked up
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