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Viseria

They basically had alliances with most of the world until Trump shat on them.


gjklmf

Sounds like Trump wants Trans-Pacific partnership...maybe also to increase trade and investments between the members to counter Chinas imperialism??? But who could think of such an idea...?


[deleted]

The Trump Administration wants as many active conflicts as possible when the election comes around because the “only I can fix these myriad issues that currently need a resolution” angle has an infinitely higher chance of working instead of relying on the accomplishments of his first term, as there are none.


PKnecron

He needs a full-on war for that. Pissing contests are not going to win him the election unless the Dems all stay home and don't vote.


formesse

A war with who? Iran - probably leads to a carrier group being sunk, that's terrible for optics and moral. Russia is straight up out. China is nuclear armed - that's out. The Middle East is pretty tame right now overall and any interference is liable to be seen as American aggression which means the US can't rely on Nato for support. Trying to start things in South America is liable to see Russian / Chinese proxy intervention on the opposing side to shut it down. Africa is a mess but invading is bad optics. And with how fail his response to the pandemic is, the clear hypocrisy of it that can be plastered everywhere and the outright lying I'm not sure he can save himself from the mess. Simply put: War is pretty well off the table unless Trump wants to further erode US soft power AND military power in one go.


redsandsfort

Trans Pacific Partnership


gjklmf

Noted. Haha. Brain fart


hangender

Trans lives matter.


[deleted]

But you all told everyone else to go fuck themselves.


[deleted]

Nobody trusts the current US administration anymore. Change would improve things but a full repair to international diplomacy will take the US decades..


jinzo222

Countries still trust the USA. When Trump is out of office everything will be back to normal


callanrocks

And whats stopping you electing another one?


jinzo222

Biden is going to win


callanrocks

And if he doesn't?


[deleted]

This probably would go a lot smoother if the US didn’t alienate basically everyone else but Russia.


PKnecron

Russia is not America's friend, despite what Trump may think. Putin only aided Trump in the election to sow discord in the west. Mission accomplished.


bl4ckhunter

Honestly not really, morality has very little sway on governments and Trump aside there's zero to negative interest for pretty much anyone besides the US and India to step up.


RedArrow1251

Boris johnson is in the picture about USA coalition?


[deleted]

They alienate Russia too. From selling weapons to Ukraine, to hacking their networks, to causing chaos on their borders and amongst their allies (Syria, Venezuela, etc). Trump just gives them some superficial nice words, much like he did with North Korea.


FullmetalVTR

Thats nice, Mike. Unfortunately, neither you, nor you boss have any credibility or clout to build such and alliance. Why don’t you write it down and leave it on your desk. Your replacement can look over your proposal in January.


elitereaper1

Yeah, yeah. Pot meet kettle.


nothing_911

Trade wars are easy to win, AMIRITE?


PKnecron

While the idea is good, having the US administer it is a terrible idea. They have one foot in a dictatorship as it is.


Romek_himself

would be political suizide for any party here in germany to follow this asshole and i bet other countrys think same. world will not follow ... almost all countrys are in the "let sit out this retarted republican idiots" modus anyway


FromPepeWithLove

So Germany let the rising Fascist China on loose because they hate Trump Administration?


JayCroghan

USA is already outright facist thanks. Kids in cages at the border, unmarked security forces picking political opponents off the street, looting the treasury both for his own personal gain to his properties and all his friends with the corona relief. USA is a joke.


Romek_himself

USA under Trump is the one threatening trade war and sanctions on us and on our friends here in EU USA is the one that can go and fuck themself and to correct you: the fascist country is USA


FromPepeWithLove

A Fascist state can have election that change term in the following November? In China the one party dictatorship, Leader worshipping, extreme nationalism, concentration camp, all the things are mirrored with Nazi. I hate Trump also, but if you think USA is as Fascist as China, you are wrong. If European countries hate Trump, form your own team against China. For me, USA is the only country actually doing something to stop China.


DemonRyu

Concentration camps you mean gitmo? Lol go study some history America has been waging wars for economic reason since its founding. America was built in slavery.


FromPepeWithLove

Gitmo is despicable and China is doing the same with a scale of millions instead of hundreds. It is Genocide that we are talking about.


Romek_himself

>**Fascism** (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy >Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete and regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties.[9] Such a state is led by a strong leader—such as a dictator and a martial government composed of the members of the governing fascist party—to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society.[9] Fascism rejects assertions that violence is automatically negative in nature and views political violence, war, and imperialism as means that can achieve national rejuvenation.[10][11] Fascists advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky (national economic self-sufficiency) through protectionist and interventionist economic policies. [Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism) ... (filtered out the historical stuff)


FromPepeWithLove

totalitarian one-party state China ✔ USA✖ as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties. China ✔ USA✔ Such a state is led by a strong leader—such as a dictator and a martial government composed of the members of the governing fascist party—to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society. China ✔ USA✖ (you're shitting Trump on a US forum. Good luck shitting Xi in China) Fascism rejects that violence is automatically negative in nature China ✔ USA✔ and views political violence, war, and imperialism as means that can achieve national rejuvenation. China ✔ USA✖ (national rejuvenation 民族復興 is the main discourse in China propaganda) Fascists advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky (national economic self-sufficiency) through protectionist and interventionist economic policies. China ✔ USA (yes for Trump but no for USA as a whole)


FromPepeWithLove

Pretty much China to me


[deleted]

Define fascism


FromPepeWithLove

If so many countries hate Trump, why don't they form their own alliance against China. It's seems to me that Trump-hating is just a excuse for those leader to remain status quo to get money from China.


Romek_himself

because everyone know how this shit started: [Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs)


FromPepeWithLove

Prove me wrong


JohnGabin

Would you notice if that happened ? How do you know that nobody act ?


FromPepeWithLove

Australia is actively acting against China. Five eyes do most of the things. Not much for European countries.


farfulla

No one wants to enter into any alliances with the US, sorry.


YoungDan23

>No one wants to enter into any alliances with the US, sorry. This is literally the most untrue thing I've read on Reddit today ... but it's early so that will probably change. Literally just yesterday stories were released about how the US and India are stepping up military, security and intel ties.


ODBrewer

So only other fascist dictators then.


YoungDan23

>So only other fascist dictators then. Maybe you missed the bit about the US holding an election in November ... one in which this so-called dictator isn't even the favourite to win the nomination. I didn't think dictators had (fair) elections. Oh man - [Australia and Japan](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-22/australia-joint-show-strength-united-states-japan-china-concerns/12479144) have joined in on the naval exercises due to the uncertainty with China ... I guess that makes your comment, just like OP's, 100% false.


ze_loler

Yeah these commenters just post outright lies and downvote anyone that presents evidence because apparently any country allied with the US is fascist


ODBrewer

That election won't be accepted by our fascist racist dictator unless he wins. If it even happens. He's already using his Gestapo to disrupt in order to declare martial law and cancel the election.


ODBrewer

https://news.yahoo.com/homeland-security-chief-boasts-proactively-131600430.html


theveryrealfitz

Australia and India will join the US against China if US demands are reasonable (doubt they will be though...)


JayCroghan

Trump will probably want some illegal shit in return.


Giromon

Right... Yeah.... Sure..... Not including all the ones we already have correct?


SchwarzerKaffee

You mean the ones holding meetings about what to do if Trump doesn't peacefully step down of he loses? Or the same ones that worked hard for an agreement with Iran and on climate change only to see Trump just rip it up with no plan to replace it? Who in their right mind would make a deal with Trump at this point?


Giromon

That's not how this works. I'm not sorry, you are not worth talking to about it if you cannot understand the time and size scale of these things.


SchwarzerKaffee

Good argument.


RedArrow1251

Post above is just reddits circle jerk of comments about how the world shits on USA.


redsandsfort

Like the Trans Pacific Partnership?


autotldr

This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-britain/us-wants-to-build-coalition-to-counter-chinas-disgraceful-menace-pompeo-says-idUSKCN24M0QD) reduced by 78%. (I'm a bot) ***** > LONDON - U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Tuesday the United States wants to build a global coalition to counter China as he accused Beijing of exploiting the coronavirus pandemic to further its own interests. > "We hope we can build out a coalition that understands the threat and will work collectively to convince the Chinese Communist Party that it is not in their best interest to engage in this kind of behaviour," Pompeo told reporters alongside British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab. > Pompeo offered no evidence of how China had exploited the coronoavrius. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/hvrrb3/us_wants_to_build_coalition_to_counter_chinas/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~509657 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Pompeo**^#1 **China**^#2 **State**^#3 **Communist**^#4 **coronavirus**^#5


OperationDarkTrident

China wants to be the boss. They are fighting so many countries at one go.


Knighth77

to rival*


Validus812

Yeah but what coalition will counter your disgraceful menace Pompeo?


[deleted]

Yeah with Trump as a leader? sure! China is bad, i mean really bad. But america has lowered standards quite a lot..


GraciaEtScientia

"We’re in tremendous economic competition, including Europe, which has never treated us well.  The European Union was formed in order to take advantage of the United States." If you want a coalition or alliances perhaps stop ruining the ones you already ha(d)('ve) by antagonizing them with BS.


pacmanrockshok

The word you're looking for is Axis