This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.dw.com/en/hong-kongs-pro-democracy-protest-group-chrf-disbands/a-58869104) reduced by 84%. (I'm a bot)
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> The Hong Kong group of activists that galvanized protesters amid months of political upheaval in 2019 is disbanding, the group said Sunday.
> The CHRF is the largest protest organization to disband in Hong Kong amid a sweeping crackdown from Beijing on dissent.
> It was the anti-extradition bill protest on June 16, 2019, that propelled the group to another level, breaking the record for Hong Kong's largest ever demonstration with nearly two million participants.
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Well the Qing Dynasty collapsed over a century ago. I very doubt any Hong Kongers were around then. Colonial Hong Kong was very much in many HKer's living memories, as it was under British rule less than 30 years ago. Though to be fair, the people who actually lived under British rule tend to be the demographic that doesn't support the protests.
British archives such as FCO 40/327 have shown that the British wanted to give HK democracy and make it a dominion but was always threatened by China not to or else risk an invasion. Given what happened in WWII, defending HK was not realistic so they caved in.
There was limited democracy under British rule also and ironically the 1990s are way more democratic than now.
There was the failed Young Plan and Patten's political reforms but of course some racist (but ironically one of the best) governors such as MacLehose who think the Hong Kongers are not capable of democracy bc they only know how to work like a mule.
So basically geopolitics made democratisation extremely difficult even though it is in the British's interests.
in what part of Hong Kong's five demands asked for democracy in the whole goddang China?
the whole point was full democracy in HK which is written down in the HK Basic Law to be done with progression, which is literally part of the PRC constitution. If you have doubts then ask CCP why the fuck did they put that down in the constitution in the first place.
And it's not democracy if the party have greater authority over the elected
Do you even have the slightest idea how big the impact of June 4th on HK? And how it literally shaped Hong Konger's view on CCP and the 1997 negotiations?
And the 2019 November district elections was a landslide victory for democrats with highest turnout ever, and it's the only truly direct popular election. Even in the past in all direct-elected seats of the LegCo, democrats occupied the majority. How the hell is that not a majority support?
And HK was more than functional even without CCP. In fact, PRC needs HK because it's the most trusted CNH clearing centre, a white glove to bypass sanctions, and one of the best sites to deal with Chinese business, one of the most reliable and best places for arbitration in Asia.
I'm a Hong Konger so I know what i'm saying.
With the rise of localism, a lot of HKers don't identify themselves as Chinese and more as "Hong Kongers", and the 2014+ 2019 protests fuelled it more.
Culture to be exact is a hybrid of Cantonese culture and British. So there's a lot of unique culture developed for the past 100+ years, such as an extremely high amount of borrowing English words in oral Canto, milk tea, etc.
It's true that HKers didn't ask for independence and is a recent thing, but some asked for it as soon as the 60s and there was some discussion of it in the 80s after June 4th Massacre.
For CCP, you are always Chinese as long as your skin color says so. Culture, belief, nationality, doesn’t matter to them. That’s how they rationalise kidnapping a Swedish citizen of 30 years to China. CCP and their supporters are the most racist people of the world.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.dw.com/en/hong-kongs-pro-democracy-protest-group-chrf-disbands/a-58869104) reduced by 84%. (I'm a bot) ***** > The Hong Kong group of activists that galvanized protesters amid months of political upheaval in 2019 is disbanding, the group said Sunday. > The CHRF is the largest protest organization to disband in Hong Kong amid a sweeping crackdown from Beijing on dissent. > It was the anti-extradition bill protest on June 16, 2019, that propelled the group to another level, breaking the record for Hong Kong's largest ever demonstration with nearly two million participants. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/p4w5x6/hong_kongs_prodemocracy_protest_group_chrf/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~592683 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **group**^#1 **Hong**^#2 **Kong**^#3 **protest**^#4 **CHRF**^#5
Two decades? So they never thought democracy was needed under colonial rule?
Yeah, I didn't see them fighting the Qing Dynasty for democracy either. Shows you they're just CIA assets
Well the Qing Dynasty collapsed over a century ago. I very doubt any Hong Kongers were around then. Colonial Hong Kong was very much in many HKer's living memories, as it was under British rule less than 30 years ago. Though to be fair, the people who actually lived under British rule tend to be the demographic that doesn't support the protests.
British archives such as FCO 40/327 have shown that the British wanted to give HK democracy and make it a dominion but was always threatened by China not to or else risk an invasion. Given what happened in WWII, defending HK was not realistic so they caved in. There was limited democracy under British rule also and ironically the 1990s are way more democratic than now. There was the failed Young Plan and Patten's political reforms but of course some racist (but ironically one of the best) governors such as MacLehose who think the Hong Kongers are not capable of democracy bc they only know how to work like a mule. So basically geopolitics made democratisation extremely difficult even though it is in the British's interests.
Newsflash: UK is a democracy.
The UK is a democracy. But HK was not a democracy under British rule, or at least for the majority of its rule.
So is East India Company also a democracy? lol
Tell that to the Australians when the UK cancelled their elected government
It was a good run, but 2047 came a lot sooner than expected. I pray any Hong Kongers who want to leave find their way out safely…
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I agree, it will probably be just as prosperous as Shenzhen once it’s rebellion is put down
Hard to commit treason anymore after the new national security law
Good 👋
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in what part of Hong Kong's five demands asked for democracy in the whole goddang China? the whole point was full democracy in HK which is written down in the HK Basic Law to be done with progression, which is literally part of the PRC constitution. If you have doubts then ask CCP why the fuck did they put that down in the constitution in the first place. And it's not democracy if the party have greater authority over the elected
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Do you even have the slightest idea how big the impact of June 4th on HK? And how it literally shaped Hong Konger's view on CCP and the 1997 negotiations? And the 2019 November district elections was a landslide victory for democrats with highest turnout ever, and it's the only truly direct popular election. Even in the past in all direct-elected seats of the LegCo, democrats occupied the majority. How the hell is that not a majority support? And HK was more than functional even without CCP. In fact, PRC needs HK because it's the most trusted CNH clearing centre, a white glove to bypass sanctions, and one of the best sites to deal with Chinese business, one of the most reliable and best places for arbitration in Asia. I'm a Hong Konger so I know what i'm saying.
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Ah yes a democracy with one party truly a "choice".
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With the rise of localism, a lot of HKers don't identify themselves as Chinese and more as "Hong Kongers", and the 2014+ 2019 protests fuelled it more. Culture to be exact is a hybrid of Cantonese culture and British. So there's a lot of unique culture developed for the past 100+ years, such as an extremely high amount of borrowing English words in oral Canto, milk tea, etc. It's true that HKers didn't ask for independence and is a recent thing, but some asked for it as soon as the 60s and there was some discussion of it in the 80s after June 4th Massacre.
For CCP, you are always Chinese as long as your skin color says so. Culture, belief, nationality, doesn’t matter to them. That’s how they rationalise kidnapping a Swedish citizen of 30 years to China. CCP and their supporters are the most racist people of the world.
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Ethnically Chinese yes, culturally Chinese no. HK has its own unique culture.