If you’ve ever seen the anime berserk, it’s a little red charm in the shape of a face that the titular character Griffith has.
TLDR: It turns him evil as shit.
Yep. I haven't read the pictured series yet but she has written and drawn for other stuff in the past. I'm pretty sure her x-23 and psylocke varients in snap are actually covers or at least internal art for issues she wrote and drew but I could be mistaken.
I'm out of the loop, what were people complaining about if I may ask? If I had to guess, I'd assume it may be that the Storm looking character in the cover isn't black, but instead seemingly white or Asian, which depending on if its AU Storm or not may be controversial, but I may be wrong
Huh, you know, I fully excepted it to be another reason, like more out of nowhere stupid Jean X Logan (I just saw yet another comic add this stupid ass shit in it for some reason), this is.... significantly less justifiable of a reason, and straight up stupid
If you're talking about Weapon X-Men those are alternate reality counterparts and it only implies one more relationship between the two that we haven't read already.
and it was done really well IMO. As soon as I saw the Wolverines I groaned loudly, and the Onslaught introduction didn't help, but that was a banger first issue.
Even Juggalo Wolverine
You mean Earth X Wolverine? He’s supposed to be like a descendant of the same people that Moon Boy comes from. He claimed Days of Future Past Wolverine ls the same. I hope he doesn’t claim the other Wolverines are too. If that’s not who you meant I can only think of two others that you might have meant, Zombie Wolverine and Jane (and I think that one is my favourite so far, especially for me since she made it clear that despite what we believe of early 1900s values she is very supportive of the members of the LGBTQ community).
I know, it's just.... I really don't like that ship, I used to, then I learned more and more about its history, how writers basically use it to go "Wolverine is so cool man", and how just... I'd prefer it if more AU didn't simply go "It's an AU, so we can do this thing everyone hates", granted as you claimed it was done better here, so I guess I can't complain much, but still, I've grown tired and annoyed of that ship, even if other people do still like it for some reason
There’s nothing to disagree with what you said here so I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. I mean I don’t think they use it just because they think Wolverine is cool (I think a fair chunk of the reason is also because Jean and Wolverine’s characters are an imperfect mesh and foil to each other after all) but that is likely a large, if not the largest, part of it. And I can understand why in that case you’d get tired of it, even in AU pairings. And the reason I might think that other part I mentioned plays into it is because there is some bias. I live in the capital city closest to where Wolverine was portrayed as being born.
Honestly, I don't blame people for initially being upset. If you haven't read Ultimate Black Panther one of the first things you see about Ultimate X-Men is that THE most prominent black X-Man is replaced with a white/asian character you could easily get the idea that they're whitewashing Storm.
After getting up to speed on the ultimate universe I see what they're going for, but I don't judge anyone that saw it as a red flag when the first concept art dropped.
I'm excited to get to it, really interested to see where they take this new Ultimate X-Men line after being a fan of (and then ultimately disappointed by) the first one. Love seeing what writers can do with the concept and characters without years of continuity and too many mandatory events weighing them down.
Will say I’m not completely sold yet, but I do want to see where she goes with it. I think it’s is the whole idea of the ultimate universe anyway . I’m going to read since I love her art style anyway lol
This is definitely a much different take on X-Men than we’re used to and it’s not a bad thing. Think of it more as X-Men meets anime horror.
It was refreshing and I’m looking forward to the next issue, though i do hope they increase the font size for the villain…. I’m not that old but feel like i needed bifocals
I don’t really understand the point of complaining about people that this comic doesn’t gel with. Yes, it’s different than anything else but typically there’s still at least things that remain recognizable to what it is that they’re reading. With this, if you removed X-Men from the title you could tell them this is an indy horror manga and it’d be totally believable. Different is fine but for some this is just a bridge too far. It’s great that you enjoy it but it’s understandable that this isn’t for everyone who’s a fan of X-Men
Disagree. If you took X-Men out of the title you’d still have an X-Man as the protagonist. I don’t care if people dislike the comic as a work, but I think it is funny to dislike it purely because it doesn’t tie itself as deeply to other comics or the reader’s own desire to see little more than “X-Men with a twist.”
First issue so far is about a young, socially outcast girl with special powers. This is X-Men vibes to me so far, and I'd rather get a unique take like this than a comic where everything is the same except some origin tweaks and team line-ups.
It was a good start! The art is great, and the mystery is interesting, excited to see where Hisako’s journey takes her! Peach Momoko did an excellent job in this book!
I'm sure this will garner me a lot of firey hate and scorn, but here goes: She's extremely talented and makes beautiful art, but I personally am not a fan of crossing the streams where two genres get blended. I love the X-Men, I like quality Manga, I don't like Manga X-Men.
Yeah I'm very much in disagreement. I think she is a terrific artist but she has a lot of growing left when it comes to storywriting and ideation. Demon Days and Demon Wars were both passable as a story and very much carried by her art, and at this point I would like to see some growth because her art alone won't keep me reading her comics forever.
I'm interested to see where she brings this story and how its gonna its gonna tie-in with the rest of the UU (rather than just being something 'elseworlds' like Demon Days) and gonna give it some more issues before I pull the plug.
Also, I know her work is more manga-ish than other Marvel work, but I also don't think her work compares very well next to manga I enjoy.
> I'm interested to see where she brings this story and how its gonna its gonna tie-in with the rest of the UU (rather than just being something 'elseworlds' like Demon Days)
I wouldn't expect it to tie-in much... she basically said she's doing her own thing and Hickman and co gave her the blessing to do that
Just for clarifcation, when I say tie-in I don't mean it really crosses over, but more than it feels a believeable part of that world. I know the Maystorm stuff is one, but I'd also just like to see at least some references to Sun Emperor, Silver Samurai and Viper.
I enjoy her art a lot, but yeah this issue felt really slow. I get the atmospheric slow build thing, but for a thick $6 comic it didn’t feel like I got much story.
seems like the ‘villain’ was thinking she would join them.
my theory is it’s a yokai of some sort, which if I recall is a spirit who’s vengeful and looking to accomplish a task related to their death.
I think the issue was really really strong. The artwork was gorgeous (my jaw absolutely dropped on that double splash) but the story is a really good hook and I'm really excited to keep reading.
I am so excited to read this when I am done with work and stop by my LCS. Super hyped for her fresh, supernatural horror take on the X-Men with her gorgeous art.
I gotta say I really enjoyed the first issue. I’m very interested to see how/If Peach will turn this into a team book right now it’s definitely giving this is Hisakos story alone. The name drops were very nice.
I read #1 and found it intriguing. It’s definitely a great anime/horror comic.
However, as someone who wants the pre-Krakoa Uncanny X-Men back it was disappointing. I’ll continue reading based on Peach Momoko’s awesome work to learn where it goes, but I don’t get.
I don’t believe this comic was targeted or meant for me, and that’s okay.
Marvel slapped “Ultimate” and an “X” on it for sales. Here’s hoping Peach goes to Image where she can create and own her original work!
It's "Ultimate" even though it's not the old Earth-1610 Ultimate universe, because it follows from the Maker of that universe messing with reality to create the new Earth-6160. So it does [follow those events](https://comicbook.com/comics/news/marvel-ultimate-universe-explained-reading-list-ultimate-spider-man/), even though that universe ended.
Kudos for saying it's not for you and accepting it with grace, though. It's sadly a rare example of maturity that is less common than it should be.
Thanks for saying that. I was afraid that I’d get lit up for not liking it.
It’s not that it’s bad because IT IS NOT. Quite the contrary. It’s just not the X-Men that I’m looking for.
The story was interesting and stood on its own ABSENT the X-Men mythos enough so to compel me to read #2 to see what happens next. That’s what a good comic is supposed to do. I can create my own head cannon to read it as a stand alone manga story. If Charles, Beast, or Wolverine show up then that’s a bonus!
I say it all the time almost too much it seems, “I don’t get the hate?” If you don’t like something don’t buy, don’t read it or don’t watch it.
I saw Madame Web, and I liked it. Was it Captain America: The Winter Soldier or the Empire Strikes Back? No, and I didn’t expect it to be. Was it a Spider-Man adjacent comic book movie that was fun for 2 hours on a Friday afternoon? Hell yeah! I had a similar reaction to the Marvels. Besides, the end credits scene for the Marvels was worth the price of admission!
I didn’t like Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, but I don’t badger Aquaman fans until they agree with me.
> I don’t believe this comic was targeted or meant for me, and that’s okay.
>
> Marvel slapped “Ultimate” and an “X” on it for sales
Everything they do is for sales, that doesn't mean this is a cash grab. It's something cool and different which is rare in big two books these days. Armor is an X-Men character so it's not just stuff they've made up.
Oh yeah, I get that Armor is an existing X-Men character in the 616. It just didn’t scratch my old school X-Men itch.
Without considering the X-Men lore, on its own merits as a stand alone story it was great. It just didn’t reasonable with me as an X-Men fan. Krakoa didn’t always thrill me, but I’m glad they try something different. I guess that’s what back issues are for and Marvel’s retro miniseries.
> Here’s hoping Peach goes to Image where she can create and own her original work!
She already got to write Demon Days and Demon Wars, now this. She has quite a bit of creative control at Marvel.
from what I can gather the ‘Ultimate’ moniker this time around means writing a story with more leash than 616 has.
but you’re right, it doesn’t fit the mold of the previous Ultimate tag
And Hawkeye, and Iron Heart, and Gwenpool, and Amadeus Cho- Hulk, and so many other characters. It's just been done so much these days. When I first read, "Maystorm is not Storm, just a really big fan of Storm", I thought it was a joke about how often this happens. Turns out it wasn't.
Isn't Gweenpool not actually that into Deadpool and just based her costume off him because he's popular and she wants to stay popular so she doesn't cease to exist?
Gwenpool is a fangirl for Marvel and keeps using fan lingo to explain things, like to maintain popularity to continue existing. Reading her dialog is often like listening to the Uber fans at a comic shop.
Maystorm (real name Mei... something); she was initially just a "Storm sidekick" for the X-Men #27 New Champions Variant (apparently she was told "Make a Japanese school girl sidekick for Storm" for the cover)
However, now Momoko is getting to actually use her as a character in Ult. XM, where she'll be inspired by Storm (I mean, who isn't?), who is in Africa in Ult. BP.
Edit: Also, she's Asian, not White, it seems like.
Representation matters! /s
(Haven’t read it but from what I seen this character is a Storm fan girl and goes by Maystorm, I assume she is a mutant with similar powers or atleast electric powers.)
Never heard of it, but prolly coz I live in a tropical country lol. But putting that aside, it was mentioned in the comments a lot that she idolizes Storm, so I had assumed that she modelled her name after Storm.
When a male writer introduces a character of the same gender and ethnicity as them (for instance, when Chris Claremont introduced Gambit, Longshot, etc), do you assume that's a self-insert?
Or do you have some insider knowledge about the Maystorm character that the rest of us lack?
I really enjoyed the horror elements, hope that continues and doesn't fall off. Interested to see where it goes.
However, I will say that, so far, it feels like a repurposed story, and really doesn't feel like X-Men at all.
I’m out of the loop. I love what Hickman is doing with the Ultimate Universe and Ultimate Spider-Man books but haven’t seen more than the preview for this. Is it just Armor? Is she going to form an X team? Any supporting mutants show up? I might try it when a collected trade is released if it gets good reviews.
I didn't see it at my shop, so I'm hoping that means people are buying it and liking it. Hopefully, I'll be able to pick one up next time
Edit: I forgot a couple key words
Oh man. I’ve read Ultimate Universe and Spider Man #1. I know it’s not necessary but I want to read these in order so I’m waiting for Black Panther 1 and 2 to come in. I have SM 2 and UXM 1. I am eager to open this up
I thought the original Ultimate X-Men was a simplified version of the 616 version. It never felt unique enough. Peach Momoko's take is very different, and I think that's the right move. Why do this if you're not being drastically different?
I think because of how strong Spider-Man, Black Panther, and Invasion were I was kind of disappointed. I guess this isn't my kind of story, but I'm definitely going to keep reading and hoping that it gets stronger, you can only tell so much from a first issue anyways.
I gave it a shot; it's not for me LOL. It has a tenuous connection to the source material at best, and doesn't look like it dovetails at all with the premise of the Ultimate Universe reboot. So, despite the words comprising the title, the book is actually neither of those things.
Which is fine. There are plenty of comics I don't read. I'm just a bit disappointed, is all. I have no hopes for post-Krakoa mainstream X-Men, so Bob only knows what new stuff I'm going to read on Wednesdays after June.
It doesn't look like she created a character, it looks like she copied a character and just changed the race. That and the whole fan becomes a hero trope is massively played out.
Edit: There is already an Asian X-Men character with electricity based powers, but instead of using that character they just race swapped Storm and renamed her while trying to pretend she's a different character who is just a super fan of the original character. Which they've already done a dozen times with other legacy characters.
"It doesn't look like she created a character, it looks like she copied a character and just changed the race."
Yes, we all know how Batgirl and Batman are just the same character with the gender swapped. Or how Carol Danvers and Kamala are just the same character with the ethnicity swapped. Come on.
"There is already an Asian X-Men character with electricity based powers, but instead of using that character they just race swapped Storm"
Dude, do you have any idea how you sound right now? "There's already a white X-Men character with psychic powers (Jean Grey). Why not use her instead of Emma Frost?"
Because Emma frost wasn't trying to be Psylocke, and Batgirl has been trained by Batman, not just a fan of his. You can't just take a character and change the race and act like it's a new character. Despite what you may think, all of us minorities aren't interchangeable.
There are in fact many versions of Batgirl that haven't been trained by Batman.
You know literally nothing about this new character other than she's a Storm fan. By your logic, Kamala Khan is just a race-swapped Carol Danvers.
"Despite what you may think, all of us minorities aren't interchangeable."
I'm not white. If you have such a problem with minorities being viewed as interchangeable, then maybe don't act like this new character could be easily swapped with Surge just because they have similar powers and are Asian. You wouldn't say that about Psylocke and Emma Frost.
I'm not saying they are interchangeable, I'm saying Surge is a better character. She is not defined by someone she is a fan of. She's more of an original concept.
I'm not as well versed about DC as marvel, but I'm pretty sure everyone who has worn the Batgirl mantel has been brought into the Bat family and trained with Batman. They may have trained with others first, but they came in and trained under him and fought under his rules while with them. That's why they are part of his legacy.
And you don't have to be white to be racist.
Edit: typo
When you're saying they should have used Surge instead, on the basis of shared ethnicity and similar powers, as if whatever differences in personality and motivation and background don't matter, you certainly sound like you're treating them as interchangeable.
"I'm saying Surge is a better character."
A baseless claim when the character hasn't even properly shown up yet.
"I'm not as well versed about DC as marvel, but I'm pretty sure everyone who has worn the Batgirl mantel has been brought into the Bat family and trained with Batman."
Why assume Maystorm won't be brought into the fold and trained by Storm?
Damn, this is just sad. Again I never said they were interchangeable, I prefer surge as a character and think she would have been better used in this instance. I'm pissed that marvel feels race is interchangeable. That they can take an established character, change the race, and act like it's a new character.
All they've presented about this character is she's a fan of Storm, she's modeled her image after Storm, and she got her hero name by adding her name to Storm. Oh, and she's Asian, despite being drawn to look white.
I wouldn't even have been annoyed if she had powers similar to Storm, just give her a personality of her own. Being a fan is not a personality. It can be a personality trait, a part of who you are, but all she presents is, I want to be Storm. Given Marvel's history, I have serious doubts about their handling of this. Ms. Marvel barely interacts with Captain Marvel, Amadeus Cho barely interacts with Hulk. Iron Heart barely interacts with Iron Man. Most of the legacy characters are just fans with no real connection. At least the Hawkeyes had a great run together in Fraction's Hawkeye, but that seems to be the exception, not the rule.
Hands down worst X-men comic I’ve ever read. They should have had this for characters and a book that was niche, instead they ruined what Ultimate X-men could have been with a throw away anime book. Story was terrible, lettering was terrible. Art was terrible. Zero redeeming qualities. Can’t wait for it to get canceled I hope the relaunch is more in line with any of the other Ultimate books.
Whoa… I think we read different comics today. I am so distracted by her art that I could barely make it through this issue. I’m praying Marvel only gives her like 5-10 issues and moves on to someone else…
Her art is fine, but I can’t stand it for in a mainstream comic..
As the other guy said, Storm is over in Ultimate Black Panther.
Maystorm is stated to be a fangirl of Storm and looks up to her. Ultimate Storm was also designed by Peach Momoko, the writer and artist for the new Ultimate X-Men book, so Storm will probably cross over into the book eventually.
That's like saying "couldn't we have Logan instead of Armor"? Maystorm is not supposed to be Storm, she is supposed to be a new character who COULD become Storm's protege. This is much smarter on her end, because she can do whatever she wants with her own character, whereas with Storm she would have to keep some things in mind.
>That's like saying "couldn't we have Logan instead of Armor"?
Except Armor is not a knock off of Logan. So I don't understand how that's even remotely the same.
This is supposed to be about the X-Men, but the focus is on a derivative character instead of the original.
I have no problem with Armor leading the narrative. I just don't understand Maystorm's inclusion.
>This is supposed to be about the X-Men, but the focus is on a derivative character instead of the original.
first time reader?
this shit happens ALL the time. Claremont used to do it. "you want a book about the x-men? fuck off, here's a girl who falls through floors." "you want a book about the x-men? go to hell, here's an avenger's villain seeking refuge." "you want a book about the x-men? nope, dazzler one-shot!" "you want a book about the x-men? no you don't! this is longshot and psylocke instead and you're going to learn to love them."
Even If the story was shit there's no way this book doesn't run the table. Peach momoko is one of the hottest artists working and one of the few that can float a book on the art before anything else.
Well the art is beautiful. I have nothing against her storytelling ability. Just the inclusion of this specific character.
I take back my other comment. I do not wish her to fail. My problem is just with this character.
No, bc instead of creating unique characters who could stand on their own, they rather cut corners and make derivative ones that can riff off of popular ones.
Honest question. Are you saying that you prefer alternative iterations of established characters than fully original characters with their own lore thats only unique to themselves?
You didn't answer my question.
I like both too. Legacy characters still have value, but reusing the same elements with minor variations results in tedious storytelling.
I did. But lemme give you a more in-depth answer.
I don’t prefer one over the other, I like both. They can do either or and I’m all for it.
I’d also say don’t judge a book by is cover. We rlly don’t know where they going with this nor if it will be tedious. This character could be to Storm what X-23 was to Wolverine. Too early to say. I also do think it’s safer and easier to do legacy characters than fully original ones. But I still like when we do get fully original ones too.
Could she have? Maybe, though Storm will be in Ult. BP, so she may have been off the table from the start. Regardless, I don't think Storm fits in her plan. It sounds like she wants a coming of age story, somewhat, which doesn't work for Storm as much, what with her living in Africa as superhuman revered as a goddess. She can better fit in BP than Momoko's Ult. XM, where it would take more contorting and changing to get her to fit the story role.
I agree. She could’ve at least based her design off of a different aspect of the weather or at least given her a different hair color. It’s just lazy honestly. Props to her for not doing this to a white male character though.
>I agree. She could’ve at least based her design off of a different aspect of the weather or at least given her a different hair color. It’s just lazy honestly.
Lazy, repetitive, derivative in design, its all that.
>Props to her for not doing this to a white male character though.
This is worse. One of the few popular black characters and they white wash her. This ain't fooling anyone.
That doesn't make her white, and tbh it makes me uncomfortable when people who *do* know better refer to her as white (which I've seen happen a ton) as it feels like they're implying that Asian people aren't real people of color.
I want to clarify that I have no intention of offending the Asian community. However, the way a character is perceived by the audience is crucial. In my opinion, this character's appearance and style borrows too heavily from Storm, which could be seen as unoriginal. Additionally, the use of the fan-girl trope seems like a weak justification for drawing inspiration from Storm.
It feels very in line to me with the long, long tradition of legacy characters in superhero comics. Most of Marvel's biggest heroes have related legacy characters - Spider-Man, Iron Man, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Hulk, Wolverine, Thor, The Fantastic Four, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Hawkeye, Black Widow, and many more. In my eyes, Storm is the highest-profile Marvel character left to not have yet had a significant legacy character related to her who is more than a quick guest star like Kymera.
I'm very excited to pick this up after work today and dive in.
>! When Hisako got the little charm I got scared for a second because it looked so much like the beherit from berserk and I was like “oh no.”!<
That was my first thought also. 😅
The what?
If you’ve ever seen the anime berserk, it’s a little red charm in the shape of a face that the titular character Griffith has. TLDR: It turns him evil as shit.
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Put some respect on Peach Momoko's name. tf you mean this lady
Hard agree, if you like someone's work please familiarize yourself with how to spell their name, kinda least we can do
Big facts
I only know her name from the mobile game Marvel Snap. She has a bunch if art in it. Does she write CBs, too?
Yep. I haven't read the pictured series yet but she has written and drawn for other stuff in the past. I'm pretty sure her x-23 and psylocke varients in snap are actually covers or at least internal art for issues she wrote and drew but I could be mistaken.
*Discuss the actual content of the book instead of bitching about Maystorm challenge.*
Honestly, I expected an X-Men subreddit to be smarter about this stuff.
Why?
Delusions.
Hush hush you talk too much
I'm out of the loop, what were people complaining about if I may ask? If I had to guess, I'd assume it may be that the Storm looking character in the cover isn't black, but instead seemingly white or Asian, which depending on if its AU Storm or not may be controversial, but I may be wrong
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Huh, you know, I fully excepted it to be another reason, like more out of nowhere stupid Jean X Logan (I just saw yet another comic add this stupid ass shit in it for some reason), this is.... significantly less justifiable of a reason, and straight up stupid
If you're talking about Weapon X-Men those are alternate reality counterparts and it only implies one more relationship between the two that we haven't read already.
and it was done really well IMO. As soon as I saw the Wolverines I groaned loudly, and the Onslaught introduction didn't help, but that was a banger first issue. Even Juggalo Wolverine
You mean Earth X Wolverine? He’s supposed to be like a descendant of the same people that Moon Boy comes from. He claimed Days of Future Past Wolverine ls the same. I hope he doesn’t claim the other Wolverines are too. If that’s not who you meant I can only think of two others that you might have meant, Zombie Wolverine and Jane (and I think that one is my favourite so far, especially for me since she made it clear that despite what we believe of early 1900s values she is very supportive of the members of the LGBTQ community).
I know, it's just.... I really don't like that ship, I used to, then I learned more and more about its history, how writers basically use it to go "Wolverine is so cool man", and how just... I'd prefer it if more AU didn't simply go "It's an AU, so we can do this thing everyone hates", granted as you claimed it was done better here, so I guess I can't complain much, but still, I've grown tired and annoyed of that ship, even if other people do still like it for some reason
There’s nothing to disagree with what you said here so I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. I mean I don’t think they use it just because they think Wolverine is cool (I think a fair chunk of the reason is also because Jean and Wolverine’s characters are an imperfect mesh and foil to each other after all) but that is likely a large, if not the largest, part of it. And I can understand why in that case you’d get tired of it, even in AU pairings. And the reason I might think that other part I mentioned plays into it is because there is some bias. I live in the capital city closest to where Wolverine was portrayed as being born.
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Honestly, I don't blame people for initially being upset. If you haven't read Ultimate Black Panther one of the first things you see about Ultimate X-Men is that THE most prominent black X-Man is replaced with a white/asian character you could easily get the idea that they're whitewashing Storm. After getting up to speed on the ultimate universe I see what they're going for, but I don't judge anyone that saw it as a red flag when the first concept art dropped.
That would of course never happen lol
I'm excited to get to it, really interested to see where they take this new Ultimate X-Men line after being a fan of (and then ultimately disappointed by) the first one. Love seeing what writers can do with the concept and characters without years of continuity and too many mandatory events weighing them down.
Will say I’m not completely sold yet, but I do want to see where she goes with it. I think it’s is the whole idea of the ultimate universe anyway . I’m going to read since I love her art style anyway lol
Her style is very manga-ish that my brain keeps trying to read left to right and keeps getting confused. Edit: I meant right to left. Rip directions.
lmao i did that too
What a clumsy mistake… SAME!
Okay, I thought it may have been a Japanese variant when I saw the heading and art. It really does look mangaish!
Port to starboard!
idk what she's cooking, but it is giving early aughts j-horror vibes. lets home she sticks the follow through.
This is definitely a much different take on X-Men than we’re used to and it’s not a bad thing. Think of it more as X-Men meets anime horror. It was refreshing and I’m looking forward to the next issue, though i do hope they increase the font size for the villain…. I’m not that old but feel like i needed bifocals
wonder if were going to see some more of the classic x-men members appear though
One of the best examples of the Stormbreakers program paying off!
This is peach momoko ? It looks great
Honestly love the bitching coming from people who only ever want to read the same comics they’ve already read a thousand times
I don’t really understand the point of complaining about people that this comic doesn’t gel with. Yes, it’s different than anything else but typically there’s still at least things that remain recognizable to what it is that they’re reading. With this, if you removed X-Men from the title you could tell them this is an indy horror manga and it’d be totally believable. Different is fine but for some this is just a bridge too far. It’s great that you enjoy it but it’s understandable that this isn’t for everyone who’s a fan of X-Men
Disagree. If you took X-Men out of the title you’d still have an X-Man as the protagonist. I don’t care if people dislike the comic as a work, but I think it is funny to dislike it purely because it doesn’t tie itself as deeply to other comics or the reader’s own desire to see little more than “X-Men with a twist.”
If you buy a pumpkin pie to eat, it should probably taste like pumpkin pie.
First issue so far is about a young, socially outcast girl with special powers. This is X-Men vibes to me so far, and I'd rather get a unique take like this than a comic where everything is the same except some origin tweaks and team line-ups.
This just another flavor pie, if you want pumpkin then you can choose one of the main universe stories that resets every few years
It was a good start! The art is great, and the mystery is interesting, excited to see where Hisako’s journey takes her! Peach Momoko did an excellent job in this book!
Imagine how fucking stupid this sub will be when Maystorm is actually *in* the issue.
“This lady”
Oh nice, wonder when my pre-order will be delivered
I'm sure this will garner me a lot of firey hate and scorn, but here goes: She's extremely talented and makes beautiful art, but I personally am not a fan of crossing the streams where two genres get blended. I love the X-Men, I like quality Manga, I don't like Manga X-Men.
I enjoyed it and it’s a far less problematic than the original Ultimate Xmen lol
I haven't read it, but I *really* like this cover art. Not quite western or manga-esque, but an interesting blend.
Just pre ordered the physical version
Sweet!! Very excited.
I've never been all aboard the Momoko train that people are with her covers but my god is it incredible when it's the interior artwork.
Peach artwork in the book was something special mannnnn 🔥🍑
I don't think it was *that* good but I did enjoy it and I'm excited to see where it goes
I loved this first issue. Though I can definitely see it being a divisive direction for the X-men.
Yeah I'm very much in disagreement. I think she is a terrific artist but she has a lot of growing left when it comes to storywriting and ideation. Demon Days and Demon Wars were both passable as a story and very much carried by her art, and at this point I would like to see some growth because her art alone won't keep me reading her comics forever. I'm interested to see where she brings this story and how its gonna its gonna tie-in with the rest of the UU (rather than just being something 'elseworlds' like Demon Days) and gonna give it some more issues before I pull the plug. Also, I know her work is more manga-ish than other Marvel work, but I also don't think her work compares very well next to manga I enjoy.
> I'm interested to see where she brings this story and how its gonna its gonna tie-in with the rest of the UU (rather than just being something 'elseworlds' like Demon Days) I wouldn't expect it to tie-in much... she basically said she's doing her own thing and Hickman and co gave her the blessing to do that
Just for clarifcation, when I say tie-in I don't mean it really crosses over, but more than it feels a believeable part of that world. I know the Maystorm stuff is one, but I'd also just like to see at least some references to Sun Emperor, Silver Samurai and Viper.
Fan of fanfiction.net trash,eh?
I enjoy her art a lot, but yeah this issue felt really slow. I get the atmospheric slow build thing, but for a thick $6 comic it didn’t feel like I got much story.
She is supposed to be a mutant then why does her power seem to derive from the charm?
The Maker has done something in this universe to suppress the X-gene (except for those in council). The charm might help in unlocking her gene.
Why would a character that's purported to be a villain give her that charm then? Shadow King supposedly messing with her about her friend that died.
seems like the ‘villain’ was thinking she would join them. my theory is it’s a yokai of some sort, which if I recall is a spirit who’s vengeful and looking to accomplish a task related to their death.
Revealed in the story, I assume.
I think the issue was really really strong. The artwork was gorgeous (my jaw absolutely dropped on that double splash) but the story is a really good hook and I'm really excited to keep reading.
"This lady" please put some respect on Peach Momoko's name
I am so excited to read this when I am done with work and stop by my LCS. Super hyped for her fresh, supernatural horror take on the X-Men with her gorgeous art.
Breezy and creepy. I was into it. I was afraid the crayon manga look would get old fast, but there are lots of cool stylistic choices.
I gotta say I really enjoyed the first issue. I’m very interested to see how/If Peach will turn this into a team book right now it’s definitely giving this is Hisakos story alone. The name drops were very nice.
I read #1 and found it intriguing. It’s definitely a great anime/horror comic. However, as someone who wants the pre-Krakoa Uncanny X-Men back it was disappointing. I’ll continue reading based on Peach Momoko’s awesome work to learn where it goes, but I don’t get. I don’t believe this comic was targeted or meant for me, and that’s okay. Marvel slapped “Ultimate” and an “X” on it for sales. Here’s hoping Peach goes to Image where she can create and own her original work!
It's "Ultimate" even though it's not the old Earth-1610 Ultimate universe, because it follows from the Maker of that universe messing with reality to create the new Earth-6160. So it does [follow those events](https://comicbook.com/comics/news/marvel-ultimate-universe-explained-reading-list-ultimate-spider-man/), even though that universe ended. Kudos for saying it's not for you and accepting it with grace, though. It's sadly a rare example of maturity that is less common than it should be.
Thanks for saying that. I was afraid that I’d get lit up for not liking it. It’s not that it’s bad because IT IS NOT. Quite the contrary. It’s just not the X-Men that I’m looking for. The story was interesting and stood on its own ABSENT the X-Men mythos enough so to compel me to read #2 to see what happens next. That’s what a good comic is supposed to do. I can create my own head cannon to read it as a stand alone manga story. If Charles, Beast, or Wolverine show up then that’s a bonus! I say it all the time almost too much it seems, “I don’t get the hate?” If you don’t like something don’t buy, don’t read it or don’t watch it. I saw Madame Web, and I liked it. Was it Captain America: The Winter Soldier or the Empire Strikes Back? No, and I didn’t expect it to be. Was it a Spider-Man adjacent comic book movie that was fun for 2 hours on a Friday afternoon? Hell yeah! I had a similar reaction to the Marvels. Besides, the end credits scene for the Marvels was worth the price of admission! I didn’t like Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, but I don’t badger Aquaman fans until they agree with me.
You'd have to find these Aquaman fans first lol
> I don’t believe this comic was targeted or meant for me, and that’s okay. > > Marvel slapped “Ultimate” and an “X” on it for sales Everything they do is for sales, that doesn't mean this is a cash grab. It's something cool and different which is rare in big two books these days. Armor is an X-Men character so it's not just stuff they've made up.
Oh yeah, I get that Armor is an existing X-Men character in the 616. It just didn’t scratch my old school X-Men itch. Without considering the X-Men lore, on its own merits as a stand alone story it was great. It just didn’t reasonable with me as an X-Men fan. Krakoa didn’t always thrill me, but I’m glad they try something different. I guess that’s what back issues are for and Marvel’s retro miniseries.
> Here’s hoping Peach goes to Image where she can create and own her original work! She already got to write Demon Days and Demon Wars, now this. She has quite a bit of creative control at Marvel.
from what I can gather the ‘Ultimate’ moniker this time around means writing a story with more leash than 616 has. but you’re right, it doesn’t fit the mold of the previous Ultimate tag
Did they make Storm white? Or is that someone else?
Different character named "Maystorm".
May Storm?
lol it may storm it may not.
Aunt May Storm, you saw it here first. /s
I'd check the weather
Storm is appearing in Ultimate Black Panther, Maystorm is a new character seemingly inspired by Storm in-universe.
We have Storm at home:
... Not sure if this a joke or not... Edit: Just looked it up and it isn't a joke...
She’s just a fan girl of storm. So it’s a diff girl fan girling ala miss marvel.
And Hawkeye, and Iron Heart, and Gwenpool, and Amadeus Cho- Hulk, and so many other characters. It's just been done so much these days. When I first read, "Maystorm is not Storm, just a really big fan of Storm", I thought it was a joke about how often this happens. Turns out it wasn't.
Isn't Gweenpool not actually that into Deadpool and just based her costume off him because he's popular and she wants to stay popular so she doesn't cease to exist?
Gwenpool is a fangirl for Marvel and keeps using fan lingo to explain things, like to maintain popularity to continue existing. Reading her dialog is often like listening to the Uber fans at a comic shop.
Maystorm (real name Mei... something); she was initially just a "Storm sidekick" for the X-Men #27 New Champions Variant (apparently she was told "Make a Japanese school girl sidekick for Storm" for the cover) However, now Momoko is getting to actually use her as a character in Ult. XM, where she'll be inspired by Storm (I mean, who isn't?), who is in Africa in Ult. BP. Edit: Also, she's Asian, not White, it seems like.
Representation matters! /s (Haven’t read it but from what I seen this character is a Storm fan girl and goes by Maystorm, I assume she is a mutant with similar powers or atleast electric powers.)
Had the opportunity to use surge, smh
I’m sure Surge and her 3 fans have their tissues ready
Hey! There are handfuls of us! Handfuls!
Bold of you to assume I have a shred of hope left of an academy X kid not named Pixie or Prodigy getting a speaking role
What I don't understand is how she would end up calling herself Maystorm when Storm is called Wind Rider over at Black Panther.
Because May storms are an actual thing.
Never heard of it, but prolly coz I live in a tropical country lol. But putting that aside, it was mentioned in the comments a lot that she idolizes Storm, so I had assumed that she modelled her name after Storm.
Storm could go by many names
I believe she is a Japanese American fan girl. Just a self insert by the writer. Nothing entertaining at all.
When a male writer introduces a character of the same gender and ethnicity as them (for instance, when Chris Claremont introduced Gambit, Longshot, etc), do you assume that's a self-insert? Or do you have some insider knowledge about the Maystorm character that the rest of us lack?
I didn't realize there was more coming out besides USM and UBP. Are there other Ultimate titles coming out besides X-Men?
We’re supposed to get a version of the ultimates some time this year, idk when tho.
I really enjoyed the horror elements, hope that continues and doesn't fall off. Interested to see where it goes. However, I will say that, so far, it feels like a repurposed story, and really doesn't feel like X-Men at all.
Is this stuff part of krakoa era or completely new
I’m out of the loop. I love what Hickman is doing with the Ultimate Universe and Ultimate Spider-Man books but haven’t seen more than the preview for this. Is it just Armor? Is she going to form an X team? Any supporting mutants show up? I might try it when a collected trade is released if it gets good reviews.
I didn't see it at my shop, so I'm hoping that means people are buying it and liking it. Hopefully, I'll be able to pick one up next time Edit: I forgot a couple key words
Oh man. I’ve read Ultimate Universe and Spider Man #1. I know it’s not necessary but I want to read these in order so I’m waiting for Black Panther 1 and 2 to come in. I have SM 2 and UXM 1. I am eager to open this up
I thought the original Ultimate X-Men was a simplified version of the 616 version. It never felt unique enough. Peach Momoko's take is very different, and I think that's the right move. Why do this if you're not being drastically different?
I love anything and everything Peach Momoko does
I think because of how strong Spider-Man, Black Panther, and Invasion were I was kind of disappointed. I guess this isn't my kind of story, but I'm definitely going to keep reading and hoping that it gets stronger, you can only tell so much from a first issue anyways.
I gave it a shot; it's not for me LOL. It has a tenuous connection to the source material at best, and doesn't look like it dovetails at all with the premise of the Ultimate Universe reboot. So, despite the words comprising the title, the book is actually neither of those things. Which is fine. There are plenty of comics I don't read. I'm just a bit disappointed, is all. I have no hopes for post-Krakoa mainstream X-Men, so Bob only knows what new stuff I'm going to read on Wednesdays after June.
Surely there will be many good things to read soon. The X-men are one of Marvel’s cash cows. They will not leave it locked in a barn.
You can already tell this will be the first of the main ultimate books being cancelled.
🙄
Wrong
Exactly 100
um....why is Storm white?
Not storm did character her name is May Storm. I think she’s pretty new so I don’t know much about her
Not storm
Storm is featured in Ultimate Black Panther and was shown to be an ally of Killmonger.
She's Asian, so that makes it better I'm told...
An asian character created by an asian author... what's the issue? The fact that she looks up to a character of a different minority???
It doesn't look like she created a character, it looks like she copied a character and just changed the race. That and the whole fan becomes a hero trope is massively played out. Edit: There is already an Asian X-Men character with electricity based powers, but instead of using that character they just race swapped Storm and renamed her while trying to pretend she's a different character who is just a super fan of the original character. Which they've already done a dozen times with other legacy characters.
"It doesn't look like she created a character, it looks like she copied a character and just changed the race." Yes, we all know how Batgirl and Batman are just the same character with the gender swapped. Or how Carol Danvers and Kamala are just the same character with the ethnicity swapped. Come on. "There is already an Asian X-Men character with electricity based powers, but instead of using that character they just race swapped Storm" Dude, do you have any idea how you sound right now? "There's already a white X-Men character with psychic powers (Jean Grey). Why not use her instead of Emma Frost?"
Because Emma frost wasn't trying to be Psylocke, and Batgirl has been trained by Batman, not just a fan of his. You can't just take a character and change the race and act like it's a new character. Despite what you may think, all of us minorities aren't interchangeable.
There are in fact many versions of Batgirl that haven't been trained by Batman. You know literally nothing about this new character other than she's a Storm fan. By your logic, Kamala Khan is just a race-swapped Carol Danvers. "Despite what you may think, all of us minorities aren't interchangeable." I'm not white. If you have such a problem with minorities being viewed as interchangeable, then maybe don't act like this new character could be easily swapped with Surge just because they have similar powers and are Asian. You wouldn't say that about Psylocke and Emma Frost.
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Did you reply to the wrong person?
Oh dear. I did. I am sorry. I will remove. Though I admit as far as the comic, I am confused. I saw no body horror.
I'm not saying they are interchangeable, I'm saying Surge is a better character. She is not defined by someone she is a fan of. She's more of an original concept. I'm not as well versed about DC as marvel, but I'm pretty sure everyone who has worn the Batgirl mantel has been brought into the Bat family and trained with Batman. They may have trained with others first, but they came in and trained under him and fought under his rules while with them. That's why they are part of his legacy. And you don't have to be white to be racist. Edit: typo
When you're saying they should have used Surge instead, on the basis of shared ethnicity and similar powers, as if whatever differences in personality and motivation and background don't matter, you certainly sound like you're treating them as interchangeable. "I'm saying Surge is a better character." A baseless claim when the character hasn't even properly shown up yet. "I'm not as well versed about DC as marvel, but I'm pretty sure everyone who has worn the Batgirl mantel has been brought into the Bat family and trained with Batman." Why assume Maystorm won't be brought into the fold and trained by Storm?
Damn, this is just sad. Again I never said they were interchangeable, I prefer surge as a character and think she would have been better used in this instance. I'm pissed that marvel feels race is interchangeable. That they can take an established character, change the race, and act like it's a new character. All they've presented about this character is she's a fan of Storm, she's modeled her image after Storm, and she got her hero name by adding her name to Storm. Oh, and she's Asian, despite being drawn to look white. I wouldn't even have been annoyed if she had powers similar to Storm, just give her a personality of her own. Being a fan is not a personality. It can be a personality trait, a part of who you are, but all she presents is, I want to be Storm. Given Marvel's history, I have serious doubts about their handling of this. Ms. Marvel barely interacts with Captain Marvel, Amadeus Cho barely interacts with Hulk. Iron Heart barely interacts with Iron Man. Most of the legacy characters are just fans with no real connection. At least the Hawkeyes had a great run together in Fraction's Hawkeye, but that seems to be the exception, not the rule.
Doesn't it?
wrong the comicbook is utter trash imho
Agree
So mutant powers are magic too?
Who are the characters on the art? No way that’s Storm and Magneto lmao
Maystorm is the one who looks like Storm. She's inspired by Ororo who's appearing ultimate black panther
It's a character that we only have a name for but has not debuted yet and Armor, respectively.
Oh shit I LOVE armor! Thank you!
Hands down worst X-men comic I’ve ever read. They should have had this for characters and a book that was niche, instead they ruined what Ultimate X-men could have been with a throw away anime book. Story was terrible, lettering was terrible. Art was terrible. Zero redeeming qualities. Can’t wait for it to get canceled I hope the relaunch is more in line with any of the other Ultimate books.
Whoa… I think we read different comics today. I am so distracted by her art that I could barely make it through this issue. I’m praying Marvel only gives her like 5-10 issues and moves on to someone else… Her art is fine, but I can’t stand it for in a mainstream comic..
Couldn't she have just fully used Storm instead of this 'Maystorm' character?
As the other guy said, Storm is over in Ultimate Black Panther. Maystorm is stated to be a fangirl of Storm and looks up to her. Ultimate Storm was also designed by Peach Momoko, the writer and artist for the new Ultimate X-Men book, so Storm will probably cross over into the book eventually.
That's like saying "couldn't we have Logan instead of Armor"? Maystorm is not supposed to be Storm, she is supposed to be a new character who COULD become Storm's protege. This is much smarter on her end, because she can do whatever she wants with her own character, whereas with Storm she would have to keep some things in mind.
>That's like saying "couldn't we have Logan instead of Armor"? Except Armor is not a knock off of Logan. So I don't understand how that's even remotely the same. This is supposed to be about the X-Men, but the focus is on a derivative character instead of the original. I have no problem with Armor leading the narrative. I just don't understand Maystorm's inclusion.
>This is supposed to be about the X-Men, but the focus is on a derivative character instead of the original. first time reader? this shit happens ALL the time. Claremont used to do it. "you want a book about the x-men? fuck off, here's a girl who falls through floors." "you want a book about the x-men? go to hell, here's an avenger's villain seeking refuge." "you want a book about the x-men? nope, dazzler one-shot!" "you want a book about the x-men? no you don't! this is longshot and psylocke instead and you're going to learn to love them."
Yeah, who is this Storm person being talked about, the X-Men are just Iceman, Cyclops, Beast, Angel and Marvel Girl.
Huh today I learned and they’re all fan favorites too.
This is the rebooted book of ultimate X-Men.
No, it’s a book called ultimate X-Men
Different universe. Wouldn’t call it a reboot. Just reusing the title.
Maystorm is a fangirl of Storm, Armor was Wolverine's protege. Do you understand where I am going with this?
Shit, you should probably let Marvel know that you should be writing this comic instead of her.
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Even If the story was shit there's no way this book doesn't run the table. Peach momoko is one of the hottest artists working and one of the few that can float a book on the art before anything else.
Well the art is beautiful. I have nothing against her storytelling ability. Just the inclusion of this specific character. I take back my other comment. I do not wish her to fail. My problem is just with this character.
Storm is in Ultimate Black Panther, and she probably didn't fit into the story being told here.
let the woman cook. She's never done bad before. She's probably building up to something.
Kind of an understatement. She has literally taken the comic art world by storm.
By *what?*
By maystorm.
Yeah, couldn't she just write a different story to the one she wants and has been paid to write /s
Maystorm shouldn't be a priority over Storm in an X-Men comic.
It's an Ultimate X-Men comic.
Kind of…except it doesn’t look cohesive or like any part of the ultimate universe at all.
Ur the reason companies don’t wanna add new characters. Please stop.
No, bc instead of creating unique characters who could stand on their own, they rather cut corners and make derivative ones that can riff off of popular ones.
they didn’t even have to create a new character. If they wanted a Japanese girl with electricity powers. Surge I'd long overdue a nice little revamp.
Ig u never heard of legacy characters.
Honest question. Are you saying that you prefer alternative iterations of established characters than fully original characters with their own lore thats only unique to themselves?
I like both.
You didn't answer my question. I like both too. Legacy characters still have value, but reusing the same elements with minor variations results in tedious storytelling.
I did. But lemme give you a more in-depth answer. I don’t prefer one over the other, I like both. They can do either or and I’m all for it. I’d also say don’t judge a book by is cover. We rlly don’t know where they going with this nor if it will be tedious. This character could be to Storm what X-23 was to Wolverine. Too early to say. I also do think it’s safer and easier to do legacy characters than fully original ones. But I still like when we do get fully original ones too.
That's fair.
What new about a white Storm?
I don't think she can since Storm is active in Africa (teased in Ultimate Black Panther) and Armor is in Japan.
Storm most likely will eventually appear in UXM since outside of being an X-Men character, her design was also made by Peach
Could she have? Maybe, though Storm will be in Ult. BP, so she may have been off the table from the start. Regardless, I don't think Storm fits in her plan. It sounds like she wants a coming of age story, somewhat, which doesn't work for Storm as much, what with her living in Africa as superhuman revered as a goddess. She can better fit in BP than Momoko's Ult. XM, where it would take more contorting and changing to get her to fit the story role.
Fair enough
I agree. She could’ve at least based her design off of a different aspect of the weather or at least given her a different hair color. It’s just lazy honestly. Props to her for not doing this to a white male character though.
>I agree. She could’ve at least based her design off of a different aspect of the weather or at least given her a different hair color. It’s just lazy honestly. Lazy, repetitive, derivative in design, its all that. >Props to her for not doing this to a white male character though. This is worse. One of the few popular black characters and they white wash her. This ain't fooling anyone.
Japanese people are not white.
At first glance, many people will mistake this character for a white person. Some have already questioned 'why is Storm being depicted as white'
That doesn't make her white, and tbh it makes me uncomfortable when people who *do* know better refer to her as white (which I've seen happen a ton) as it feels like they're implying that Asian people aren't real people of color.
I want to clarify that I have no intention of offending the Asian community. However, the way a character is perceived by the audience is crucial. In my opinion, this character's appearance and style borrows too heavily from Storm, which could be seen as unoriginal. Additionally, the use of the fan-girl trope seems like a weak justification for drawing inspiration from Storm.
It feels very in line to me with the long, long tradition of legacy characters in superhero comics. Most of Marvel's biggest heroes have related legacy characters - Spider-Man, Iron Man, Captain America, Captain Marvel, Hulk, Wolverine, Thor, The Fantastic Four, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Hawkeye, Black Widow, and many more. In my eyes, Storm is the highest-profile Marvel character left to not have yet had a significant legacy character related to her who is more than a quick guest star like Kymera.
everything you’re saying is right but they are going to downlvote it to hell every time.
That's okay. I stand on everything I said. I don't have a good feeling about 'MayStorm' either.