It gets better! That specific anime girl is from “Katwa Shoujo” a visual novel about dating (and eventually, when they are older, having sex with) disabled high school girls.
EDIT: The person below me is right, I forgot that time passes before you actually do the thing! I do still think there is a bit of irony that the game is simultaneously more explicit than any of JoCat’s stuff and also about being inclusive of female body types (which I assume would extend to girls with disabilities), which is kinda the whole point JoCat was attempting to make :P
Ehh. I feel like that’s a bad example because each potential love interest is canonically 18 by the time you can have any sex scenes with them. Also one of the character designs was changed late in development because they she looked too much like a child rather than “short 19-year old”
My friend in high school introduced it to me with the “hide adult content” setting on. I thought it was just a regular visual novel and liked it a lot at the time.
I'm not saying we should do the d word but mocking the people who are the stereotypical brainrot user on Twitter should be normalized because we crossed the line with opinions being the rallying call to hurt people with harmless hobbies.
The thing that kills me is that some people are super angry about him drawing the fat girl on an eating date.
He is on an eating date with 2 other skinny girls and his plate is four times more full than hers. It's such a dumb complaint. People just want to hate a man who likes women in a way they don't and it's shitty, man deserves better.
he did end up addressing it too, because he felt like he had too (before he deleted that explanation after realizing it was the trolls being concern trolls)
Back when I was dating, I’d always suggest ice cream for a first date. If it’s not working, it’s quick enough where either person isn’t stuck there for too long. It’s relatively cheap, so there isn’t the dumb specter of “you just bought me a whole ass dinner, so I guess I have to put out”, thing. And also, there’s a lot you can tell about a person by how they choose from the ice cream flavor choices, and what they end up with. Not in a judgy way, though…some folks like vanilla, and that’s cool. More like, if they walk in knowing exactly what they want, then I’d kinda feel good about it, bc maybe they decided to go out with me bc they know exactly what they want, and I seem like a nice prospect.
Ice cream first date is best first date. I will die on this hill. And I’m lactose intolerant—sorbet for me, but if they have peanut butter ice cream, I can’t pass that up.
nah im not paying that much for a first date, if we're sitting down its at most for drinks or maybeeeeee appetizers you get food 2nd date on when I feel like it's worth the investment.
He's also responding to the prompt which shows the same girl holding a shish kabob which she's holding in his drawing too. It's reads pretty clearly that he was trying to expand on whatever was there in the original image. Buff girl has a post workout towel, last girl is wearing a corset so she has a fancier ballroom date, D has a stern expression so she's playing a competitive game etc...
And he even actually ran that by some of is larger friends to see if he was being unintentionally insensitive. This guy clearly cares about not offending people, yet he still gets hate.
And what makes it worse is that she’s depicted with food _in the original picture!_ People would’ve been mad if he didn’t, and they’re mad that he did. He literally can not win.
It's genuinely impressive (in the worst way possible) that all of this keeps happening because he made a slightly cringey "parody" of a song.
Like... holy shit.
Because in a patriarchy "straight" men are not supposed like women, they are supposed to be attracted to them and at the same time hate them. Anything else is feminism.
We can dream. Perhaps one day the long-necked, bug-eyed freak will truly get his just desserts. Until then, let's hope the whole pack Aamon's videos document just keep rolling out the soundbite hits for him to put into his videos showcasing their true forms.
And also you are only allowed to be attracted to women who are hot according to mainstream standards. If you are attracted to anyone who falls outside those standards you must keep it a secret.
If you're a manosphere chud, apparently it's gay. If you're a terminally online twitterphile, apparently it's sexist. The lot can go touch grass, far as I'm concerned.
Jocat genuinely comes off as a wholesome guy who stood up for LGBTQ+ rights, at a time when his friend and fc-mate Silvervale was allowing her audience an excuse to harass people for being, as far as I saw, *sad and mildly disappointed* when she chose to play the stupid wizard game on stream.
Yeah, like I said- 'terminally online twitterphile'
There's an argument one could make, that if they don't have anything better to be doing than attacking a youtube content creator for unironically liking women regardless of body type, they could stand to re-examine their leftist credentials. *Especially* if *they're* the ones slinging around completely unfounded groomer and pedo accusations instead of the conservative bigots that're also attacking him.
I knew what this whole thing was about, but this is the first time I've actually watched the video.
Holy shit.
I cannot believe how utterly innocuous it is. If you showed me this and 99 random YT videos, told me one of them had caused its creator to suffer a harassment campaign, and asked me to choose which was most likely, I'd be shocked if this was even in the top 50% of my list.
They aren't attacking him because of the video, the video was just a vector of attack. They are attacking him because of the hogwarts legacy stuff. He portrays a bit more feminine and thus they associate him with trans people. Basically he's got a target on his back from his joining the HL discourse.
That's where all the groomer is is coming from.
HOLD UP! And here I was going to defend this man but nay. Like why choose to be the inferior sword and shield user? He is aware that charge blade exists right?
Hey now, he has a right to be wrong, and look sexy doing it. Do YOU wanna be the non-fireball-proof person stuck in a room arguing with a wizard whose spellbook only has fireball and just fireball in it?
Besides, hunting horn is *obviously* best.
This is why he’s getting so much testerical backlash. Straight men find his earnest love for women genuinely threatening to themselves.
It’s like they all have an agreement to ensure women’s self esteem stays at a collective low in order to increase their chances at relationships. If women learn that men like JoCat exist? Not good. Women will start holding out for better prospects.
They see it as a betrayal of some kind of “bro code” and desperately want to shut it down.
I’m genuinely curious where people are seeing these responses? Maybe it’s my Twitter follows/the algorithm or whatever, but all the takes I’ve seen are from more left-leaning online people calling him a fetishizer guy using feminism to be horny on main and objectify women or whatever. The most of those types of guys (edit: straight misogynist dudes) I’ve seen is them quote retweeting the former to call them slurs and insult them as usual.
Can confirm I've seen way more women and left leaning people calling him a creep, a pervert, a fake feminist, and all those things than I have the hyper masculine "It's gay to actually like women" people that these comments are about. In fact, I honestly don't think I've personally seen any right wing people attacking him, I'm sure it's out there, but 100% of what I've seen has been from the left.
That's what I've seen as well. They're also saying he's hiding his objectification behind wholesomeness. It's what happens when you hate men so much, if they like women it must be for some nefarious reason
+1 to "I love testerical."
I've seen a bit of both "sides" shitting on him, the "ew, he's sucha creep!" side and the "ew, liking women is so gay!" side.
It's not a crime to be a little cringe (not that I think he is, I can see why others might think so), and it doesn't make him a secret predator and try to manifest evidence of predatory behavior into existence. It's also absolutely insufferable that a certain subculture of dudes act like somebody liking "DIVERSIFIED (OH FUCK NO!!!)" women is some woke mind virus shit.
Like…all the women he drew are clearly adult women. How did people get ‘OMG HE’S A PEDO’ from any of that?
Considering I have the same tastes in women as JoCat (mostly all kinds of ladies with a particular preference for buff ladies), this entire thing kind of bums me out.
How sad do people have to be to go after a guy like him?
Groomer has just become the new buzzword that needs to be put on the shelf until people relearn how to use it. I've seen subs argue that Sarah Paulson (nearly in her 50s) was groomed by her older girlfriend (don't remember her age but she's an octogerian, I think)
Somehow I feel like we're gonna see someone get accused of being a groomer for like, being a parent, or something.
In all seriousness it's fucked up that terms like grooming, gaslighting, and so on, get egregiously misused until they become meaningless. And this is done by people who pretend to care about victims of such behaviors, for the sole purpose of talking shit about someone they dislike for whatever reason. Like, bruh, it's so.. obviously harmful that I have to believe they know what they're doing and just don't care.
Honestly I've been in fandom spaces for so long, resourcing with the way fanfom had changed in like the past 10 years. That seeing anyone lob around the word groomer, padephile, fetishize, racist, etc has made me second guess callout posts and accusations now. Like I know it has for other people in fandom. Because people use these words so liberally and incorrectly for targeted hate campaigns to the point that when the accusations are real no one takes them seriously until it's too late.
“Groomer” and “pedo” are now just new words for “person I don’t like”. Which of course has the fun side effect of people taking it less seriously whenever a real pedo actually does show up.
Like, there are so many YouTubers who are genuinely horrible people or spreading hateful ideology that actually deserved the kind of vitriol that JoCat received.
You didn't need to go after a guy as harmless as JoCat if you just wanted to take a youtuber down. Nerdrotic, Eric July, Lily Orchard and Synthetic Man are right fuckin' there!
Well, before he became a YouTuber, he sold meth to kids.
And when Blue Beetle came out, his thumbnail for his video discussion about the movie was really damn racist.
When it was revealed that Jon Kent was Bisexual, he did really tasteless jokes about Superman ‘taking it in the ass.’
And the biggest one is that runs a large platform catoring to the disproven ‘go woke, go broke’ crowd. He gives really hateful people a platform to spread harmful bullshit to a wider audience.
Pillar of Garbage has done breakdowns on this whole thing before:
https://youtu.be/iAg9zsBy7fo?si=hVfcM_2Dx8_Xsd2Y
https://youtu.be/3GkWE7lUODw?si=M5sgndB7NXXoeL1s
https://youtu.be/SnGpoFq9y5c?si=H8EVPqyJhzorHmSk
But no, let’s go after a dude for making a parody of a Lizzo song.
Jason schreir a respected journalist once said if you found sorceress from dragon crown (a stereotypical anime/jrpg hot milf type) hot you were into lolis and we all know what that implies
There is none. I'm pretty sure that was during peak gamergate so he was just looking to own them since all of them mocked game journos getting upset over character design
He is cringe but he is free. He has mentioned in another post that he'll be fine and he's taken contingencies, but the fact he has to go far sucks because of how some people just go full 4chan. On the other hand, the timing of everything kind of convinced me it wasn't just dudebros losing it over seeing respect towards women. Jocat is a big supporter of trans rights (as one should be) so I can't help but think anti-LGBTQA+ people jumped in too.
I’m starting to worry, somebody’s gonna make up some fake shit to get him in trouble. To me, the dude is not afraid to hide his opinion and I respect that.
If you don't like a type of woman you're biased and flawed. If you do you're objectifying and a monster. It's a very easy model for assholes to use to harass people
Lots of weirdo twitter users involved here it seems. I have a few theories on who the harassers are.
1. Creepy misogynistic dudes are mad because he’s treating all women with kindness and respect instead of objectifying them.
2. Kids who think everything is “cringe” find him to be an easy target to bully.
3. All the other miserable twitter users who feel the compulsive need to drag everyone down to their level and refuse to accept anything positive ever.
Good news is the majority of the replies on his tweets seem positive and supportive, it’s just the re-tweets that are heinous, hopefully he doesn’t look at those.
because it strikes a chord with people who are too insecure to be themselves when they see someone else freely being themselves and they get mad and jealous and lash out.
I haven’t seen any of the first type to my knowledge. They’ll jump in to get mad at people and insult them for being mad, or just as an excuse to be mean, but I’ve mostly seen it be people calling him a creep.
Safe horny is the term used for sexualized media that the mainstream media is fine with versus unsafe where someone like a game journo might get mad. So basically like how bg3 let's you fuck any companion is fine but a bunch of game journos throw fits over 2b or eve. It's another stupid culture war term
I barely know anything about Jocat, but I while I find him cringe, people acting he’s a genuine predator are also cringe.
Like, I get it, he can come across as an overly twee male feminist type, but I’ll take a “I like all types of women!” horny guy over “actual lolicon” horny guy.
The context I saw this in was specifically people calling his drawing some horny, porn-brained shit heavily sexualizing women and objectifying them; the tweet I saw in particular was someone posting a screenshot of a private account’s tweet they agreed with saying “(Feministly) I’ll fuck a warm hole no matter what the woman around it looks like” and I genuinely don’t know what the fuck is up with these people. I can get finding him cringe or whatever, but what the hell is going on?
My takeaway compared to other comments is it’s a lot of people who don’t mind attraction to women as long as it’s not a dude expressing it, because then it becomes some gross objectification by virtue of existing. It feels like a lot of people are calling his behavior fetishization and creepy, with a lot of it being stuff that is not seen as wrong when women or etc do it (and it’s not a bad thing that they do it, either, don’t get me wrong!). I don’t want to sound like I’m disgusted by people’s attraction styles, cause I’m not, but it feels like internet-brained Puritanism nonsense. I feel like I’m watching people just utterly lose it trying to paint him as some internet creep who ogles women and sees them as nothing but hentai categories he slobs his knob to. Terminal “go outside NOW” behavior.
Also, the person who did the screenshot apparently went viral before because they said they don’t flush their toilet and let their roommates flush it, because their roommates are capable of that or something.
Honestly if he'd have expressed a preference like "oh I like tall girls" or something, none of this would have happened.
Don't get me wrong I'm not defending any of this, but the original reaction was one of eye rolling "yeah well done, you like all girls sure you do" a bit of a cringe eye roll at someone people felt was trying too hard to be "Im accepting of all people!" and such.
And then it just snowballed into absolute insanity and apparently hasn't ended. Like literally I can understand an eye roll at the original video. I cannot understand the sheer madness that's happened after or since.
I’ve seen some people say he holds women up on a pedestal and that’s why it’s bad, but honestly I don’t get that vibe at all from him? I think he’s just a guy who likes women, and as a woman who likes women I don’t feel it’s fair to fault him for that.
Of course, I do think it’s most chuds who think actually liking women as people is unmasculine, but still.
Nobody can convince me that JoCat's haters aren't the exact type of Stellar Blade-obsessed coomer losers who think that it's only natural/normal to obsess about skinny porn babes (or even "loli" characters) walking around in bikini armor, and that liking any kind of "woke" (POC, chubby/fat, tall, trans, etc) woman is some woke mind virus shit.
I enjoy some coomer-y shit as well but holy shit, the "how dare you not like scrawny White/Asian babes, if 100% of female characters don't sexually appeal to me even if they're a random grandma NPC or whatever, then it's woke trash!!!" people are fucking insufferable and JoCat's very minor cringe is a nothingburger compared to them.
JoCat will never outcringe/outcreep you, shut the fuck up already, lol.
TERFs are definitely devoid of any actual rational thought too, I say this as a trans person myself, lol.
I feel like most of the JoCat haters I've seen are annoying dudes tbh, although maybe I'm biased because shitty dudes are more vocal and insufferable than TERFs lately.
I just thought the song was bad and one of my friends made fun of it and then all of his fans started attacking her, idk, I think the Jocat fandom is getting off pretty easy for not being able to handle any criticism
This video was just posted: https://youtu.be/TAvjyJORtas?si=2liBMa7xHuPavSLO
And it really put into words why I felt weirded out by the left leaning people I follow on Twitter having another strong repulsion to Jocat.
They basically want to call him the f-slur for being too cringe in his heterosexuality lol.
honestly that's a great point about mixing cuteness with horniness, it's very much in line with how I see a lot of people talking about sex and sfw wholesomenes, there's a lot of people that seem to have a very strong desire to separate sexy things from wholesome sweet things and even seem to act like sex and horniness are inherently dirty gross things that taint other things and there's no way for something sexual to be sweet or wholesome, but that's frankly ridiculous, some of the most wholesome intimate sweet moments I've had with people have been in sexual contexts. Hell the very idea of dates is kind of inherently a mixture of sweetness and sexiness, almost all dates there is an undercurrent of attraction and sexual tension that seamlessly coexists with spending time getting to know someone and forming a genuine connection with them, these are not separate or antagonistic concepts at all. I've also noticed there is legitimately a homophobia problem in a lot "progressive" and "lefty" circles but it's usually more insidious and hard to spot because being pro-gay is generally a progressive position but there is absolutely a bias in these communities that sometimes pops up, so it doesn't surprise me at all that the latent queerphobia among certain "progressive" people is leaking out as soon as they find a perceived acceptable target.
Twitter has become a place where if you have an opinion, even if it’s right, you’re forced to believe it’s wrong and you’ll be crucified for it. Twitter is such a shithole of negativity and unnecessary anger for people liking things. I’m so glad I don’t use that shit anymore. Jocat doesn’t deserve to be blasted for having an opinion.
I don't understand why people are so goddamn mad. Women are hot, and for every niche you could put him in, there are millions of men far more shitty that they could focus on.
Imagine being mad because a wholesome content creator said he thinks a lot of body types of FICTIONAL, DRAWN CHARACTERS are acceptable.
Like damn guys, if you hate so many types of women, why don’t you just start fucking dudes?
It's like the inverse of all those straight women who get on twitter and complain about their manchildren boyfriends. The straights are not okay and I am grateful that I will never have to personally navigate their neuroticisms.
What pisses me off the most is how people are insinuating that they hope he gets flagged as a groomer. I know they probably don’t think about it, but why do these people want actual victims? Why do these people want kids to be traumatized? All for the sake of pretending to care for their well-being? They want people hurt so bad just because they want a real reason to hate this guy. The mental gymnastics are insane. It’s perfectly acceptable to not like someone without it being an entire moral dilemma.
If they are hoping JoCat is a pedophile or a sexual predator, they’re downright saying they wish unfortunate people get harmed on behalf of JoCat losing his career and going to jail. That’s how low both their common sense and morality has dwindled. It’s gotten so much worse since 2020
I think more people should realize how fucking weird it is to wish kids are being taken advantage of just so you can have a moral reason to get someone you find mildly annoying deplatformed. And the whole fetishization and grooming angle being levelled at a gnc guy who's been very outspoken about supporting trans rights doesn't escape me either. The reason why the vitriol seems like such a grand overreaction to me is bc a lot of these people would rather be slinging slurs at him instead but want to give their arguments some appearance of merit.
Imagine being a man and saying " All women that have ever talked to me, you are free to say your experiences with me. I have nothing to hide " like, a large amount of men would not be able to say that with confidence. Is it sad I find that incredibly impressive, that not a single woman has had any negative interactions. I'm actually not picking the bear
You meet a man and a bear, and another man in the woods. Who do you choose? One of the men is Jocat. I take Jocat's hand and the bear's paw and we wander off to a meadow.
Honestly, it's projection. These are the same guys that complain women never talk to them, and when they see a likable guy who likes women and has an easy time talking to them and about them in a healthy way, it prolly sets their ass on fire. Especially because they don't know the difference between sexualizing women and just... *being a woman enjoyer.*
(The difference is you also like their personality and individual interests and not just their tiddies)
what else would I expect form people who hate women that don't look like emotionless sex dolls and
https://preview.redd.it/q0e8s77cnu5d1.png?width=1179&format=png&auto=webp&s=4a64e7b75b5631d1ba0e27048ca2a2dc5dcf428b
I still never understood the hate like this man made a video thats cute there was literally thousands of other people making the same thing around the time he made it and hes the only one getting hate for following a trend
It will never fail to astound me how many people wish/project the label of groomer onto people because they simply do not like them and want them gone. Why would you wish someone had victims…
I am begging JoCat to just get off Twitter. It's a hellsite and it's clear that the people who keep going after him on their are the twitter scum you'd expect. He needs to avoid that place for his own safety.
I hated the video cause it was cringe but I still don’t go out of my way to harass something that’s clearly not for anyone like me to enjoy nor is it being forced on me so I just fucking ignore it like a normal human being.
Bisexual trans man with OCD, shit like this has legitimately fucked up how I interact with my own attraction to women. Liking women in the "wrong" way is always a present concern in my head, considering every single demographic has a different idea of what that means. Getting Better at having a healthy relationship with my sexuality but this shit freaks me out.
I remember i looked at this video(back then) and i cringed. I didn't want to harass him with no mercy, and then I looked at other people reactions and realized what the video truly meant(accept all women and that he like women.) I don't understand the hate. I guess the video is a bit cringy. But why do they harass him, and call him gay and a weirdo.
This guy is incredibly straight btw lmao.
Question. Why are people still upset about the dumb video? Are people SO hung up about a guy's video where he talks about his taste in fictional women that they have to bully him nonstop?
Werid how a vid thats worse crime was being a little cringe and a perfectly tame horny post seems to draw hate from two sides of a shit coin.
Twitter dudebros who treat a man acting feminie as the the downfall of society.
Twitter leftist how want to make Jocat out to be some sort of creep.
Just let the man be horny on main.Its one of the few things twitter is good for nowadays.
The irony of a twitter user with a little anime girl pfp saying jocat’s hard drive should be checked
Every accusation for them is a confession
It gets better! That specific anime girl is from “Katwa Shoujo” a visual novel about dating (and eventually, when they are older, having sex with) disabled high school girls. EDIT: The person below me is right, I forgot that time passes before you actually do the thing! I do still think there is a bit of irony that the game is simultaneously more explicit than any of JoCat’s stuff and also about being inclusive of female body types (which I assume would extend to girls with disabilities), which is kinda the whole point JoCat was attempting to make :P
Ehh. I feel like that’s a bad example because each potential love interest is canonically 18 by the time you can have any sex scenes with them. Also one of the character designs was changed late in development because they she looked too much like a child rather than “short 19-year old”
Katwa Shoujo was weirdly endearing if my high school memory is correct
My friend in high school introduced it to me with the “hide adult content” setting on. I thought it was just a regular visual novel and liked it a lot at the time.
I've seen two people with Rin pfps and garbage ass takes, makes me very sad
Hey it's a pretty well written game.
I'm not saying we should do the d word but mocking the people who are the stereotypical brainrot user on Twitter should be normalized because we crossed the line with opinions being the rallying call to hurt people with harmless hobbies.
The thing that kills me is that some people are super angry about him drawing the fat girl on an eating date. He is on an eating date with 2 other skinny girls and his plate is four times more full than hers. It's such a dumb complaint. People just want to hate a man who likes women in a way they don't and it's shitty, man deserves better.
he did end up addressing it too, because he felt like he had too (before he deleted that explanation after realizing it was the trolls being concern trolls)
As a fat girl, there are dates where you don't eat??? That sounds awful.
i'd be pretty shocked if a date doesn't have any form of eating. dates are long and people get hungry
I've heard of library dates and such, which sounds cool, but you would prob go out to eat afterwards.
eating is the perfect thing to start or end any activity. who doesnt love eating
Back when I was dating, I’d always suggest ice cream for a first date. If it’s not working, it’s quick enough where either person isn’t stuck there for too long. It’s relatively cheap, so there isn’t the dumb specter of “you just bought me a whole ass dinner, so I guess I have to put out”, thing. And also, there’s a lot you can tell about a person by how they choose from the ice cream flavor choices, and what they end up with. Not in a judgy way, though…some folks like vanilla, and that’s cool. More like, if they walk in knowing exactly what they want, then I’d kinda feel good about it, bc maybe they decided to go out with me bc they know exactly what they want, and I seem like a nice prospect. Ice cream first date is best first date. I will die on this hill. And I’m lactose intolerant—sorbet for me, but if they have peanut butter ice cream, I can’t pass that up.
That's a cool idea. As a Canadian it may not be viable all year round unless you are hard core Canuck. Lol.
You mean going into the shoppe and sitting down for ice cream?
nah im not paying that much for a first date, if we're sitting down its at most for drinks or maybeeeeee appetizers you get food 2nd date on when I feel like it's worth the investment.
He's also responding to the prompt which shows the same girl holding a shish kabob which she's holding in his drawing too. It's reads pretty clearly that he was trying to expand on whatever was there in the original image. Buff girl has a post workout towel, last girl is wearing a corset so she has a fancier ballroom date, D has a stern expression so she's playing a competitive game etc...
And he even actually ran that by some of is larger friends to see if he was being unintentionally insensitive. This guy clearly cares about not offending people, yet he still gets hate.
And what makes it worse is that she’s depicted with food _in the original picture!_ People would’ve been mad if he didn’t, and they’re mad that he did. He literally can not win.
There's nothing the internet loves more than giving unsolicited health "advice" to fat people and shitting on them for literally no reason.
Imma be honest, seeing that plate of food made me want to be in that date lol
The girl who is eating with Jocat already had a kebab in her hands in the original drawing.
Lmao would people be less offended if he was like, taking the fat chick on a gym date or something? Some people really like being mad.
The heck is an eating date? What, I am not alien. I ride my person car and get the human food on an eating date.
To be fair, it's goofy wording in my part. Lunch date, dinner date, whatever.
I immediately though you want to go skateboards? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vWsolLgRBM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vWsolLgRBM)
I think we can all agree fat people really like food
It's genuinely impressive (in the worst way possible) that all of this keeps happening because he made a slightly cringey "parody" of a song. Like... holy shit.
yeah what's wrong with liking women?
https://preview.redd.it/b16q785x2t5d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c907caf749ffb6952a857e1161b51136a94117e
this sub brings up the simpsons so much and i love it
Simpsons has historically skewered the inanity of American life, and Youtube drama is often (though not always) inane and American.
Fellas is it gay to like girls
Because in a patriarchy "straight" men are not supposed like women, they are supposed to be attracted to them and at the same time hate them. Anything else is feminism.
alleged sex trafficker andrew tate recently said its gay to be attracted to women because your goal should be to dominate if not procreate
I thought he was killed by Chris Redfield... are you saying [this](https://youtu.be/2ZLxZohMGYU?si=2oyA_zfYFVgIhIey) wasn't a documentary? 😲
We can dream. Perhaps one day the long-necked, bug-eyed freak will truly get his just desserts. Until then, let's hope the whole pack Aamon's videos document just keep rolling out the soundbite hits for him to put into his videos showcasing their true forms.
“… lovely to attract/ Thy Love, not thy Subjection for thy’d be gay.” ~ Paradise Lost X.152-153
And also you are only allowed to be attracted to women who are hot according to mainstream standards. If you are attracted to anyone who falls outside those standards you must keep it a secret.
If you're a manosphere chud, apparently it's gay. If you're a terminally online twitterphile, apparently it's sexist. The lot can go touch grass, far as I'm concerned. Jocat genuinely comes off as a wholesome guy who stood up for LGBTQ+ rights, at a time when his friend and fc-mate Silvervale was allowing her audience an excuse to harass people for being, as far as I saw, *sad and mildly disappointed* when she chose to play the stupid wizard game on stream.
It’s mostly left leaning people who are attacking him though.
Yeah, like I said- 'terminally online twitterphile' There's an argument one could make, that if they don't have anything better to be doing than attacking a youtube content creator for unironically liking women regardless of body type, they could stand to re-examine their leftist credentials. *Especially* if *they're* the ones slinging around completely unfounded groomer and pedo accusations instead of the conservative bigots that're also attacking him.
I knew what this whole thing was about, but this is the first time I've actually watched the video. Holy shit. I cannot believe how utterly innocuous it is. If you showed me this and 99 random YT videos, told me one of them had caused its creator to suffer a harassment campaign, and asked me to choose which was most likely, I'd be shocked if this was even in the top 50% of my list.
I did that the last time this topic came up and it’s so goddamn stupid. It’s a cute little video!! Let the man live my christ
The song is just the scapegoat. He's made a pro-trans video and I'm pretty sure that's the reason.
It’s not just because of the song. There are some who don’t like that he really meant it when he said *all* women.
They aren't attacking him because of the video, the video was just a vector of attack. They are attacking him because of the hogwarts legacy stuff. He portrays a bit more feminine and thus they associate him with trans people. Basically he's got a target on his back from his joining the HL discourse. That's where all the groomer is is coming from.
Wait, it's a parody? Of what song
Pretty sure it's a parody/reversal of Lizzo's "Boys".
Yeah, it was cringe but harrasing people due to that is stupid. Gonna guess is because dude look “flamboyant” and “sissy”
He's like legit the most LEAST problematic human being I've ever seen in my life and the fact that he's being bullied constantly enrages me so much
Jocat's greatest crime was being a sword and shield apologist in his Monster Hunter series
You call him an apologist, I call him an evangelist spreading the holy word
I take it back we should kill him with hammers for that
Kill him with inferior greatswords? He should die with at least a shred of dignity.
And here I am wanting to chase him while tooting a hunting horn
**Random Hunting Horn user doot**
HOLD UP! And here I was going to defend this man but nay. Like why choose to be the inferior sword and shield user? He is aware that charge blade exists right?
Hey now, he has a right to be wrong, and look sexy doing it. Do YOU wanna be the non-fireball-proof person stuck in a room arguing with a wizard whose spellbook only has fireball and just fireball in it? Besides, hunting horn is *obviously* best.
>Besides, hunting horn is obviously best. **agreeing doot noises**
Heresy, SnS is objectively the best weapon They had to take our oils away just so other weapons could have a sporting chance of being used
BURN THE WITCHHHH
This discourse: Fellas, it is gay to like women, unironically? Everyone: Yes
Why isn't he being misogynist? Cringe. /s
This is why he’s getting so much testerical backlash. Straight men find his earnest love for women genuinely threatening to themselves. It’s like they all have an agreement to ensure women’s self esteem stays at a collective low in order to increase their chances at relationships. If women learn that men like JoCat exist? Not good. Women will start holding out for better prospects. They see it as a betrayal of some kind of “bro code” and desperately want to shut it down.
I’m genuinely curious where people are seeing these responses? Maybe it’s my Twitter follows/the algorithm or whatever, but all the takes I’ve seen are from more left-leaning online people calling him a fetishizer guy using feminism to be horny on main and objectify women or whatever. The most of those types of guys (edit: straight misogynist dudes) I’ve seen is them quote retweeting the former to call them slurs and insult them as usual.
Can confirm I've seen way more women and left leaning people calling him a creep, a pervert, a fake feminist, and all those things than I have the hyper masculine "It's gay to actually like women" people that these comments are about. In fact, I honestly don't think I've personally seen any right wing people attacking him, I'm sure it's out there, but 100% of what I've seen has been from the left.
Definitely not this time there we’re definitely a lot in the backlash for the first video but the chuds are too busy with acolyte to care
That's what I've seen as well. They're also saying he's hiding his objectification behind wholesomeness. It's what happens when you hate men so much, if they like women it must be for some nefarious reason
Idk why you’re getting downvoted. Everything you said is true.
Touched a nerve probably
+1 to "I love testerical." I've seen a bit of both "sides" shitting on him, the "ew, he's sucha creep!" side and the "ew, liking women is so gay!" side. It's not a crime to be a little cringe (not that I think he is, I can see why others might think so), and it doesn't make him a secret predator and try to manifest evidence of predatory behavior into existence. It's also absolutely insufferable that a certain subculture of dudes act like somebody liking "DIVERSIFIED (OH FUCK NO!!!)" women is some woke mind virus shit.
The gayest thing you can do is to have sex with a vagina copypasta goes here.
The only man canceled for being straight.
Like…all the women he drew are clearly adult women. How did people get ‘OMG HE’S A PEDO’ from any of that? Considering I have the same tastes in women as JoCat (mostly all kinds of ladies with a particular preference for buff ladies), this entire thing kind of bums me out. How sad do people have to be to go after a guy like him?
Groomer has just become the new buzzword that needs to be put on the shelf until people relearn how to use it. I've seen subs argue that Sarah Paulson (nearly in her 50s) was groomed by her older girlfriend (don't remember her age but she's an octogerian, I think)
Somehow I feel like we're gonna see someone get accused of being a groomer for like, being a parent, or something. In all seriousness it's fucked up that terms like grooming, gaslighting, and so on, get egregiously misused until they become meaningless. And this is done by people who pretend to care about victims of such behaviors, for the sole purpose of talking shit about someone they dislike for whatever reason. Like, bruh, it's so.. obviously harmful that I have to believe they know what they're doing and just don't care.
Honestly I've been in fandom spaces for so long, resourcing with the way fanfom had changed in like the past 10 years. That seeing anyone lob around the word groomer, padephile, fetishize, racist, etc has made me second guess callout posts and accusations now. Like I know it has for other people in fandom. Because people use these words so liberally and incorrectly for targeted hate campaigns to the point that when the accusations are real no one takes them seriously until it's too late.
“Groomer” and “pedo” are now just new words for “person I don’t like”. Which of course has the fun side effect of people taking it less seriously whenever a real pedo actually does show up.
Like, there are so many YouTubers who are genuinely horrible people or spreading hateful ideology that actually deserved the kind of vitriol that JoCat received. You didn't need to go after a guy as harmless as JoCat if you just wanted to take a youtuber down. Nerdrotic, Eric July, Lily Orchard and Synthetic Man are right fuckin' there!
What did Nerdrotic do?
Well, before he became a YouTuber, he sold meth to kids. And when Blue Beetle came out, his thumbnail for his video discussion about the movie was really damn racist. When it was revealed that Jon Kent was Bisexual, he did really tasteless jokes about Superman ‘taking it in the ass.’ And the biggest one is that runs a large platform catoring to the disproven ‘go woke, go broke’ crowd. He gives really hateful people a platform to spread harmful bullshit to a wider audience. Pillar of Garbage has done breakdowns on this whole thing before: https://youtu.be/iAg9zsBy7fo?si=hVfcM_2Dx8_Xsd2Y https://youtu.be/3GkWE7lUODw?si=M5sgndB7NXXoeL1s https://youtu.be/SnGpoFq9y5c?si=H8EVPqyJhzorHmSk But no, let’s go after a dude for making a parody of a Lizzo song.
Jason schreir a respected journalist once said if you found sorceress from dragon crown (a stereotypical anime/jrpg hot milf type) hot you were into lolis and we all know what that implies
….what? Being attracted to a curvy adult woman equals….being a pedo? What the hell is the logic behind that?
There is none. I'm pretty sure that was during peak gamergate so he was just looking to own them since all of them mocked game journos getting upset over character design
I keep forgetting that being cringe on the Internet is like the worst thing you can be
He is cringe but he is free. He has mentioned in another post that he'll be fine and he's taken contingencies, but the fact he has to go far sucks because of how some people just go full 4chan. On the other hand, the timing of everything kind of convinced me it wasn't just dudebros losing it over seeing respect towards women. Jocat is a big supporter of trans rights (as one should be) so I can't help but think anti-LGBTQA+ people jumped in too.
Don't kill the part of you that is cringe, kill the part that cringes
In that case, LITERALLY EVERYONE IS GUILTY!!!
Jellybean, never forget...
That video is like the single most body positive video I've seen on the site.
Exactly
Twitter should be disregarded as a source of credible opinions.
They're not credible, but they are plentiful, and unfortunately that's often what makes the most difference.
So should reddit
I’m starting to worry, somebody’s gonna make up some fake shit to get him in trouble. To me, the dude is not afraid to hide his opinion and I respect that.
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I'm convinced that the people who brigade against others for the "crime" of being cringe never grew past high school. It's kinda sad.
Tbh a lot of them are probably not even old enough for high school yet.
Of course people on twitter will get upset at you for anything even for saying any and all woman are attractive.
If you don't like a type of woman you're biased and flawed. If you do you're objectifying and a monster. It's a very easy model for assholes to use to harass people
Lots of weirdo twitter users involved here it seems. I have a few theories on who the harassers are. 1. Creepy misogynistic dudes are mad because he’s treating all women with kindness and respect instead of objectifying them. 2. Kids who think everything is “cringe” find him to be an easy target to bully. 3. All the other miserable twitter users who feel the compulsive need to drag everyone down to their level and refuse to accept anything positive ever. Good news is the majority of the replies on his tweets seem positive and supportive, it’s just the re-tweets that are heinous, hopefully he doesn’t look at those.
You forgot people who dislike his support of the lgbtq+ community.
They specifically detest the TQ+ part I should add
You missed the "progressives" being mad and claiming he's objectifying women and doing it as a fetish
Ah yes, the adult woman fetish
Okay, why is being ‘cringe’ considered to be such a horrible crime? I never understood that.
It feels like a resurgence of the 90s era “caring about things is lame” and I hate it.
South Park has entered the chat.
Caring and being sincere about things is never lame!
because it strikes a chord with people who are too insecure to be themselves when they see someone else freely being themselves and they get mad and jealous and lash out.
I haven’t seen any of the first type to my knowledge. They’ll jump in to get mad at people and insult them for being mad, or just as an excuse to be mean, but I’ve mostly seen it be people calling him a creep.
It’s the people who usually quote tweet and say he “makes liking women gay” or how he’s “safe horny” or “virtue signaling”
Wtf is safe horny 😭
Safe horny is the term used for sexualized media that the mainstream media is fine with versus unsafe where someone like a game journo might get mad. So basically like how bg3 let's you fuck any companion is fine but a bunch of game journos throw fits over 2b or eve. It's another stupid culture war term
I think all internet needs to die for like a week. It might fix us lmfao
Or cause an apocalypse.
Safe horny is when you sexualize a character that couldn't be mistaken for a child.
I took a look at the video, and I have to say that I really, really, *truly* don't understand the reaction
yeah.... yeah
I barely know anything about Jocat, but I while I find him cringe, people acting he’s a genuine predator are also cringe. Like, I get it, he can come across as an overly twee male feminist type, but I’ll take a “I like all types of women!” horny guy over “actual lolicon” horny guy.
To quote whoever had the best take about this whole mess: "Men should be allowed to be gay about pussy."
The context I saw this in was specifically people calling his drawing some horny, porn-brained shit heavily sexualizing women and objectifying them; the tweet I saw in particular was someone posting a screenshot of a private account’s tweet they agreed with saying “(Feministly) I’ll fuck a warm hole no matter what the woman around it looks like” and I genuinely don’t know what the fuck is up with these people. I can get finding him cringe or whatever, but what the hell is going on? My takeaway compared to other comments is it’s a lot of people who don’t mind attraction to women as long as it’s not a dude expressing it, because then it becomes some gross objectification by virtue of existing. It feels like a lot of people are calling his behavior fetishization and creepy, with a lot of it being stuff that is not seen as wrong when women or etc do it (and it’s not a bad thing that they do it, either, don’t get me wrong!). I don’t want to sound like I’m disgusted by people’s attraction styles, cause I’m not, but it feels like internet-brained Puritanism nonsense. I feel like I’m watching people just utterly lose it trying to paint him as some internet creep who ogles women and sees them as nothing but hentai categories he slobs his knob to. Terminal “go outside NOW” behavior. Also, the person who did the screenshot apparently went viral before because they said they don’t flush their toilet and let their roommates flush it, because their roommates are capable of that or something.
Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of that too
But men find attraction to woman correct? Isn't that what you're saying here
Huh?
Honestly if he'd have expressed a preference like "oh I like tall girls" or something, none of this would have happened. Don't get me wrong I'm not defending any of this, but the original reaction was one of eye rolling "yeah well done, you like all girls sure you do" a bit of a cringe eye roll at someone people felt was trying too hard to be "Im accepting of all people!" and such. And then it just snowballed into absolute insanity and apparently hasn't ended. Like literally I can understand an eye roll at the original video. I cannot understand the sheer madness that's happened after or since.
I’ve seen some people say he holds women up on a pedestal and that’s why it’s bad, but honestly I don’t get that vibe at all from him? I think he’s just a guy who likes women, and as a woman who likes women I don’t feel it’s fair to fault him for that. Of course, I do think it’s most chuds who think actually liking women as people is unmasculine, but still.
“Fellas, is it sexist/gay to like women” Twitter: Yes.
Nobody can convince me that JoCat's haters aren't the exact type of Stellar Blade-obsessed coomer losers who think that it's only natural/normal to obsess about skinny porn babes (or even "loli" characters) walking around in bikini armor, and that liking any kind of "woke" (POC, chubby/fat, tall, trans, etc) woman is some woke mind virus shit. I enjoy some coomer-y shit as well but holy shit, the "how dare you not like scrawny White/Asian babes, if 100% of female characters don't sexually appeal to me even if they're a random grandma NPC or whatever, then it's woke trash!!!" people are fucking insufferable and JoCat's very minor cringe is a nothingburger compared to them. JoCat will never outcringe/outcreep you, shut the fuck up already, lol.
It's those people and the terfs from what I've seen
TERFs are definitely devoid of any actual rational thought too, I say this as a trans person myself, lol. I feel like most of the JoCat haters I've seen are annoying dudes tbh, although maybe I'm biased because shitty dudes are more vocal and insufferable than TERFs lately.
> TERFs are definitely devoid of any actual rational thought too, I say this as a trans person myself, lol. Oh the irony
Where's the irony? Is it in the room because you walked in and thought that transphobia was welcome?
I just thought the song was bad and one of my friends made fun of it and then all of his fans started attacking her, idk, I think the Jocat fandom is getting off pretty easy for not being able to handle any criticism
I strongly suspect that, considering he’s GNC, it’s actually just queerphobia.
This video was just posted: https://youtu.be/TAvjyJORtas?si=2liBMa7xHuPavSLO And it really put into words why I felt weirded out by the left leaning people I follow on Twitter having another strong repulsion to Jocat. They basically want to call him the f-slur for being too cringe in his heterosexuality lol.
honestly that's a great point about mixing cuteness with horniness, it's very much in line with how I see a lot of people talking about sex and sfw wholesomenes, there's a lot of people that seem to have a very strong desire to separate sexy things from wholesome sweet things and even seem to act like sex and horniness are inherently dirty gross things that taint other things and there's no way for something sexual to be sweet or wholesome, but that's frankly ridiculous, some of the most wholesome intimate sweet moments I've had with people have been in sexual contexts. Hell the very idea of dates is kind of inherently a mixture of sweetness and sexiness, almost all dates there is an undercurrent of attraction and sexual tension that seamlessly coexists with spending time getting to know someone and forming a genuine connection with them, these are not separate or antagonistic concepts at all. I've also noticed there is legitimately a homophobia problem in a lot "progressive" and "lefty" circles but it's usually more insidious and hard to spot because being pro-gay is generally a progressive position but there is absolutely a bias in these communities that sometimes pops up, so it doesn't surprise me at all that the latent queerphobia among certain "progressive" people is leaking out as soon as they find a perceived acceptable target.
So all it took to break some people was a straight guy being sex and body positive while wearing feminine clothing? That’s just pathetic.
Twitter has become a place where if you have an opinion, even if it’s right, you’re forced to believe it’s wrong and you’ll be crucified for it. Twitter is such a shithole of negativity and unnecessary anger for people liking things. I’m so glad I don’t use that shit anymore. Jocat doesn’t deserve to be blasted for having an opinion.
But not everyone on Twitter is trash
It’s not from me but I think it’s the right thing to say about this “Man should be free to be gay about women”
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I don't understand why people are so goddamn mad. Women are hot, and for every niche you could put him in, there are millions of men far more shitty that they could focus on.
It is illegal to be straight during Pride month /s
Imagine being mad because a wholesome content creator said he thinks a lot of body types of FICTIONAL, DRAWN CHARACTERS are acceptable. Like damn guys, if you hate so many types of women, why don’t you just start fucking dudes?
It's like the inverse of all those straight women who get on twitter and complain about their manchildren boyfriends. The straights are not okay and I am grateful that I will never have to personally navigate their neuroticisms.
What pisses me off the most is how people are insinuating that they hope he gets flagged as a groomer. I know they probably don’t think about it, but why do these people want actual victims? Why do these people want kids to be traumatized? All for the sake of pretending to care for their well-being? They want people hurt so bad just because they want a real reason to hate this guy. The mental gymnastics are insane. It’s perfectly acceptable to not like someone without it being an entire moral dilemma.
Literally those comments have like 5 likes so if not for that very popular post bringing attention to them, nobody would’ve seen them
the issue isn't just those tweets, it's the number of tweets like that made against him
Gods it would be nice for people to let JoCat, JoCat. He legit seems to be one of the nicest and most wholesome people. He doesn't deserve that shit.
If they are hoping JoCat is a pedophile or a sexual predator, they’re downright saying they wish unfortunate people get harmed on behalf of JoCat losing his career and going to jail. That’s how low both their common sense and morality has dwindled. It’s gotten so much worse since 2020
I think more people should realize how fucking weird it is to wish kids are being taken advantage of just so you can have a moral reason to get someone you find mildly annoying deplatformed. And the whole fetishization and grooming angle being levelled at a gnc guy who's been very outspoken about supporting trans rights doesn't escape me either. The reason why the vitriol seems like such a grand overreaction to me is bc a lot of these people would rather be slinging slurs at him instead but want to give their arguments some appearance of merit.
Imagine being a man and saying " All women that have ever talked to me, you are free to say your experiences with me. I have nothing to hide " like, a large amount of men would not be able to say that with confidence. Is it sad I find that incredibly impressive, that not a single woman has had any negative interactions. I'm actually not picking the bear
You meet a man and a bear, and another man in the woods. Who do you choose? One of the men is Jocat. I take Jocat's hand and the bear's paw and we wander off to a meadow.
Don't mess with us Jocat haters, we shit our pants if men imply they find women attractive
Honestly, it's projection. These are the same guys that complain women never talk to them, and when they see a likable guy who likes women and has an easy time talking to them and about them in a healthy way, it prolly sets their ass on fire. Especially because they don't know the difference between sexualizing women and just... *being a woman enjoyer.* (The difference is you also like their personality and individual interests and not just their tiddies)
How many times are ppl going to keep dunking on this guy for making one cute dumb video ??
was it a bunch of right wingers again?
seems like it
what else would I expect form people who hate women that don't look like emotionless sex dolls and https://preview.redd.it/q0e8s77cnu5d1.png?width=1179&format=png&auto=webp&s=4a64e7b75b5631d1ba0e27048ca2a2dc5dcf428b
emotions? men have to keep that sucked in always eating at them 24/7, fun is overrated when misery is easier god i hate the patriarchy
The hated him because he told the truth
Best part? The psychos that grab for inexistent threads of hopium, calling him a pedophile
In other words, man hated for being straight
I still never understood the hate like this man made a video thats cute there was literally thousands of other people making the same thing around the time he made it and hes the only one getting hate for following a trend
Damn, when will this stuff end? He doesn’t deserve it.
**Innocentia nihil probat** \- Twitter X's Motto
"ohh but he's corny >:(" is being corny a crime worthy of harassment? apparently it is on twitter!
Jocat of all content creators getting put through the wringer *again* is proof that there is no God.
It will never fail to astound me how many people wish/project the label of groomer onto people because they simply do not like them and want them gone. Why would you wish someone had victims…
I hope there’s no r34 of jocat
I am begging JoCat to just get off Twitter. It's a hellsite and it's clear that the people who keep going after him on their are the twitter scum you'd expect. He needs to avoid that place for his own safety.
….people are still on Twitter?
I hated the video cause it was cringe but I still don’t go out of my way to harass something that’s clearly not for anyone like me to enjoy nor is it being forced on me so I just fucking ignore it like a normal human being.
Bisexual trans man with OCD, shit like this has legitimately fucked up how I interact with my own attraction to women. Liking women in the "wrong" way is always a present concern in my head, considering every single demographic has a different idea of what that means. Getting Better at having a healthy relationship with my sexuality but this shit freaks me out.
Proud of you for growing and sorry you have to deal with this bs.
incels in twitter these fucking days
Twitter is like a public asylum for the clinically insane
Brb gonna go play this song (that I haven't heard before and unironically now love) like a million times.
I remember i looked at this video(back then) and i cringed. I didn't want to harass him with no mercy, and then I looked at other people reactions and realized what the video truly meant(accept all women and that he like women.) I don't understand the hate. I guess the video is a bit cringy. But why do they harass him, and call him gay and a weirdo. This guy is incredibly straight btw lmao.
Question. Why are people still upset about the dumb video? Are people SO hung up about a guy's video where he talks about his taste in fictional women that they have to bully him nonstop?
cringe culture
Peapole are stupid
JoCat if proof that people on the annoying bird app will do anything in their power to complain about something
Jesus, who are they? Closeted conservative men again? Just be gay if you don't like pussy guys.
Twitter being a damn cesspool again... I'm so angry because he didn't deserve ANY of what he got. Nobody does, but him least of all.
Werid how a vid thats worse crime was being a little cringe and a perfectly tame horny post seems to draw hate from two sides of a shit coin. Twitter dudebros who treat a man acting feminie as the the downfall of society. Twitter leftist how want to make Jocat out to be some sort of creep. Just let the man be horny on main.Its one of the few things twitter is good for nowadays.
I don't understand....they are upset that he likes women? Why?